Go Try This 2

revelation · 09-04-2008, 11:24 AM

Hay everyone

Just wondering if anybody knows when, or IF, GTT2 will be released?

The GTT forum is definitely not very active at the moment so I'm resorted to ask in here.

Cheers guys!

upnorth · 09-04-2008, 02:33 PM

I bought the Black Hat Edition when it came out.

We (the early adopters) were promised monthly bonus audios that were never delivered

For the last 2 years, the owner keep promising delivery of V2 for X date,and again, and again, bla bla bla.

Sorry, but I can't trust his words anymore.

VinceNouvel · 09-04-2008, 08:57 PM

Its almost a year... BUt no news from them.. Let me knowif u want to buy Go try This Black Hat 1.. I can hook you up with it..

revelation · 09-04-2008, 09:14 PM

no news from them? Yeh tell me about it, i know! shocking huh.

I dunno whats goin on, but to some people who bought, I think its goin to affect John's reputation a bit. I still think hes great, very knowledgeable, but yeh, would have been nice to hear from the company.

Oh well...

Cheers guyz

Richard HAN · 09-05-2008, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revelation

I think its goin to affect John's reputation a bit.

In my opinion, this is an understatement. I have in fact stopped buying all stuff either by him or recommended by him.

.

VinceNouvel · 09-05-2008, 11:47 AM

why is that richard?

revelation · 09-05-2008, 01:01 PM

I've just been having a bit of a read on John's blog (johnreel.com) and I'm not exactly sure what happened but its obvious he's been going through some tough times.

On there he goes on about being rich at one stage then losing it all etc etc.

Hmmmm, now maybe that explains the delay with GTT2?!

KirkMcD · 09-05-2008, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revelation

I've just been having a bit of a read on John's blog (johnreel.com) and I'm not exactly sure what happened but its obvious he's been going through some tough times.

Based on what he says in his blog ( John Reel’s Blog: Considering Outsourcing Development? and John Reel’s Blog: Since it’s going to come up… GoTryTHIS. ), it seems his development team was reassigned to other projects and that caused massive delays.

Richard HAN · 09-08-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VinceNouvel

why is that richard?

Sorry for the late reply.

GoTryThis V1 is a 2006 (can't remember the launch month, but it was a big launch) product and when it go on sales, a free upgrade to V2 is promised. I have only just read the blog post about the history of GoTryThis, his problems and that his development team being re-assigned to other projects but, really, this is not my problem.

I might sound harsh for saying so... but, as a business owner, he has to be prepared to manage these impromptu problems.

But, the fact remains that it is now September 2008... a massive 20 months (at least) since the launch of GTT V1 and V2 is still nowhere in sight. However, I did see him released other products. Hence, it gave the idea that as V2 is supposed to be a free upgrade, it's not placed in as high a priority as other products. (Also note, the blog post mentioned above about the history of GTT is only made on 31st July 2008.)

This is mainly why he's lost his credibility and did harm to his reputation. And, I don't buy stuff from people with no credibility. No doubt he's a good programmer, but as a business owner, he's still got a long way to go...

.

Chiayee · 09-09-2008, 01:18 AM

I am an ower of Go Try This Black Hat edition. I am not a happy customer because

1. John initially promised to sell only limited number of Black Hat version of GTT, but he later sell more than he promised. I left a comment on his blog to question this, and it never got published.
Can you say that he is lying?

2. The software has got a lot of bugs. Although the support team is quite helpful, but I got tired of the bugs and always have to email for support.

3. other reasons that have been mentioned in this thread.

There's better script out there, go find it.

cheers,
CY

sitemarketer · 09-09-2008, 01:02 PM

Hi.

John Reel from GoTryTHIS here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by upnorth

I bought the Black Hat Edition when it came out.

We (the early adopters) were promised monthly bonus audios that were never delivered

For the last 2 years, the owner keep promising delivery of V2 for X date,and again, and again, bla bla bla.

Sorry, but I can't trust his words anymore.

The monthly bonus audios were 2 months free and then a paid subscription service. After the first two months I decided not to continue with the paid service, and never charged anyone.

GoTryTHIS 2 was supposed to be a 2 month job finish an existing feature. It turned into a two year R&D marathon, with hundreds of thousands of dollars invested, and a few problems created by the huge expense.

In an effort to maintain integrity, it will still be a free upgrade once it is released. We thought that the release time was close a few times, and found issues in testing. The latest release is in testing now and seems stable, and able to handle millions of records snappily. We will be releasing it to selected beta testers soon.

When it is released, I hope I can gain back your trust!

Despite one poster's suggestion, there are no known bugs in GoTryTHIS. It was released after extensive testing by real users. Any bugs that were reported were quickly fixed, and new features have been released a few times for free.

Thank you for your positive feedback and constructive criticism.
John.

revelation · 09-09-2008, 01:30 PM

Wow.

Hay John really appreciate you coming in here and giving us the lowdown.

At least know we heard direct from you and are no longer in the dark, again, really appreciate that and hope to see you around soon.

All the best and we look forward to GTT2!

Ciao.

upnorth · 09-09-2008, 06:12 PM

John,

Thanks for your follow-up.

I hope this long R&D marathon will end positively both for you and your customers.

Dan

sitemarketer · 09-10-2008, 02:33 PM

When GoTryTHIS2 is released, there won't be limits on how many I sell. It's a complete rewrite, so I can do whatever I want! :-)

Chiayee · 09-11-2008, 04:43 AM

I look through the cache at Google, and GoTryThis sales page said:

"FINAL NOTICE: I Will Pull The Plug On This Offer
When All 1,500 Copies Are Sold, So Don't Ask!
...
So, when I take this offer down, it will never be publicly sold again."

GoTryTHIS Massive Affiliate Marketing Advantage

Oh I am such a loser who whines and complains, didn't realize thaat GoTryThis and GoTryThis2 are entirely 2 different things...

Oh well.. whatever..

tommyp · 09-29-2008, 11:24 PM

I may be looking forward to GoTRyThis2 as long as it has all the blackhat features.

What I really looked forward to is Gateway Magic. I know tehre is another service taht is almost identical but $47 fro Gateway is way better than the deakl the other guy has.

John, I hope you open up the doors again to Gateway Magic.

ExRat · 10-02-2008, 12:44 PM

Hi John,

As a buyer of the original limited sale of GTT BH I'm also interested in your response to the one query that you didn't respond to -

Quote:

1. John initially promised to sell only limited number of Black Hat version of GTT, but he later sell more than he promised.

I'd really appreciate it if you could respond to this, as from what I remember hearing previously, this was the case. Thanks.

Incidentally, I still use it and have found it to be a solid, useful product without bugs. But, as far as I know, I was sold a limited release (in order to create scarcity) which was then back-tracked on. I'd like to think I am wrong about this...

MikeAmbrosio · 10-02-2008, 03:28 PM

I've been using GTT V1 since launch day and have never had any issues with it. No bugs I have ever found.

As for the limited number released...did it actually sell out originally? I don't remember - my brain is getting old

Mike

ExRat · 10-03-2008, 08:20 AM

Hi Mike,

Quote:

As for the limited number released...did it actually sell out originally? I don't remember - my brain is getting old

Don't worry Mike, I'll help you out. I'm like an elephant when it comes to getting tucked up. Yes I believe it did sell out.

The Warrior Forum - What is a good paid link cloaker?

From that thread -

Quote:

I personally use GoTryThis (Blackhat version) but it's out of the market at the moment pending the release of version2

There was also another thread which I can't find which discussed the 're-launch' of the black hat version and how people felt about it. Perhaps it got deleted?

RE - bugs/problems, this may help -

The Warrior Forum - On the fence with GoTryThis... any alternative?

If you check the archives at wayback machine, you can find out more -

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.gotrythis.com

If you click on July 2nd 2006 for example (just prior to launch), you will see this -

Quote:

On July 15th... ONLY 1,500 Smart Marketers Will Be Tapping Into A Brand New Arsenal Of
Affiliate Marketing Weapons

Then if you zoom ahead to February 9th 2007, you briefly see this page -

http://www.gotrythis.com/info.php

before it changes to a different page. On the original page (URL above) it says -

Quote:

Hi and thank you for visiting.

Please read this brief introduction for important information before scrolling down.

Last July 1,500 copies of GoTryTHIS Black-Hat were sold in just under a week. Since then, it has been available ONCE, to buyers of a high-priced training program and I've offered a handful here and there because I was feeling generous.

It's never been sold publicly like it is being today, and never at a discount.

However, as we prepare for the launch of the next generation of GoTryTHIS, we find ourselves needing an influx of cash to get everything ready and stable for its launch. The truth is that we simply spent too much money on R&D on the new features and the quickest way to raise the funds and finally complete everything is to allow 300 more people to buy GoTryTHIS Black-Hat Version 1 and give them a free upgrade to version 2.

There are ?? copies left. Order yours before they are gone.

Below is the original sales letter from GoTryTHIS Black-Hat. Please read it over and if our software will help you in your business, as it has helped so many other people, then please take advantage of this sale and get GoTryTHIS Black-Hat for $50 off the price

Important parts bolded for emphasis.

So the original buyers (like me) were sucked in with false scarcity. We were dumped on when he gave it to buyers of a 'high-priced training program' and then a 'few times' more when he was 'feeling generous.'

Then again, when he had spunked all of his money and had none left to do version 2, so he released it AGAIN, only this time throwing in a discount just to add insult to injury.

I hope this helps.

sitemarketer · 10-07-2008, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommyp

What I really looked forward to is Gateway Magic. I know tehre is another service taht is almost identical but $47 fro Gateway is way better than the deakl the other guy has.

John, I hope you open up the doors again to Gateway Magic.

I doubt I will be doing any more work on GatewayMagic. Taking that on was a mistake for several reasons. Sorry for the bad news.

sitemarketer · 10-07-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi John,

As a buyer of the original limited sale of GTT BH I'm also interested in your response to the one query that you didn't respond to -
I'd really appreciate it if you could respond to this, as from what I remember hearing previously, this was the case. Thanks.

Incidentally, I still use it and have found it to be a solid, useful product without bugs. But, as far as I know, I was sold a limited release (in order to create scarcity) which was then back-tracked on. I'd like to think I am wrong about this...

1) I did put an "out" in there that it would be sold in higher-priced packages, which I did once and accounted for some sales.

2) I sold returns.

3) When I wrote that I would only sell 1500 copies, I expected version 2 would be out in four months at the latest, and generating cash, but it was plagued with technical challenges and astronomically rising costs. That lead to a situation where I had to choose the lessor of two evils: Selling extra copies to pay for the completion of the development of version 2, keep my promise of a free upgrade, and continue free support, or shutting down development of that product. I made the decision that I thought was best for my customers, and was the least ethically challenged, considering that I did have the "out", which I hadn't been exercising, and would have put those copies out there anyway. With more foresight, I would have done that instead, but the situation became critical overnight without warning.

It was a decision I avoided and tried to work around for as long as I could. I understand that not everyone will appreciate it, and that is something I'll have to live with.

Thank you,
John.

sitemarketer · 10-07-2008, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExRat

So the original buyers (like me) were sucked in with false scarcity. We were dumped on when he gave it to buyers of a 'high-priced training program' and then a 'few times' more when he was 'feeling generous.'

Then again, when he had spunked all of his money and had none left to do version 2, so he released it AGAIN, only this time throwing in a discount just to add insult to injury.

Please read my above comment.

Also, for what it is worth, please note that the sale was 15 months after the initial sales of GoTryTHIS, and that I've invested MORE than the entire income from version 1 into version 2.

Again, I know not everyone will be happy with this, and I can only try my best to make it up to you with an awesome new version for free.

John.

ExRat · 10-07-2008, 11:24 AM

Hi John,

Thankyou for coming back, answering and explaining.

Quote:

I did put an "out" in there that it would be sold in higher-priced packages

I can see from the salespage that you did include this out on there. It's just one of those things, like clever use of wording on continuity offers - there are multiple cases of wording to induce scarcity throughout the page, but only once, right at the bottom, does it mention the out.

Before I purchased, I never noticed that line. I just saw all of the wording that said stuff like -

Quote:

FINAL NOTICE: I Will Pull The Plug On This Offer
When All 1,500 Copies Are Sold, So Don't Ask!

and

Quote:

Notice: For the first 24 hours, one sold every 3 minutes on average. We may sell out soon.

...right at the top of the page.

But in your favour, you have come here and held your hands up, bothered to explain, and due to the fact that you don't appear to have been active in the market all of this time (except for sales bully) it adds credence to your story.

There are some who mislead as a matter of course - with every launch, getting progressively more shady!

Thanks again for responding and being upfront.

Dhira · 10-23-2008, 08:32 AM

John, question about version 2.

I am a fairly heavy version 1 user.
It has one big problem.

hen you have a lot of clicks on your links, it takes forever to log in.
Eventually you WILL be unable to log it at all.

I assume because the database is "full".
I thought that one install would be enough for all my tracking - it is not.
Now I cannot log i to my first install because it never loads (this is after hundreds of thousands of clicks to a few links).

So...... will this be addressed in GTT2?

sitemarketer · 10-29-2008, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhira

John, question about version 2.

I am a fairly heavy version 1 user.
It has one big problem.

hen you have a lot of clicks on your links, it takes forever to log in.
Eventually you WILL be unable to log it at all.

I assume because the database is "full".
I thought that one install would be enough for all my tracking - it is not.
Now I cannot log i to my first install because it never loads (this is after hundreds of thousands of clicks to a few links).

So...... will this be addressed in GTT2?

Hi.

That was one of the big delays, when we had version 2 almost ready, or so I thought, and then loaded a million clicks of data in, and it wouldn't load either.

Since then, we've redesigned a bunch of things to improve that situation. As I write this post, I am currently stress testing an installation of GoTryTHIS 2, sending about 1200 clicks per minute to it, non-stop. Today I'm going to ask more people to help with that stress testing, so we can send it a few million clicks a day and see if it still loads.

Until November 3rd, if you would like to help stress-test version 2, please visit the GoTryTHIS blog for instructions here:
GoTryTHIS 2 Information Blog Archive Help stress-test GoTryTHIS2

Thank you,
John.

In the meantime, in GTT1, may I suggest going into your database and manually deleting old data from the clicks table. Make a backup first, just in case.

Myheavens · 05-02-2009, 12:14 PM

I wanted tp buy gotrythis ?? Can anyone tell me how to buy it ? because i cant find any place to buy this ?

sitemarketer · 07-18-2009, 08:33 PM

Hi everyone.

Just a quick announcement that GoTryTHIS 2 is now available, and with early bird discounts.

Thank you,
John.
www.GoTryTHIS.com

09-04-2008, 11:24 AM	#1
revelation Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , New Zealand. Posts: 57 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Go Try This 2 Hay everyone Just wondering if anybody knows when, or IF, GTT2 will be released? The GTT forum is definitely not very active at the moment so I'm resorted to ask in here. Cheers guys!

09-04-2008, 02:33 PM	#2
upnorth Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 280 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Go Try This 2 I bought the Black Hat Edition when it came out. We (the early adopters) were promised monthly bonus audios that were never delivered For the last 2 years, the owner keep promising delivery of V2 for X date,and again, and again, bla bla bla. Sorry, but I can't trust his words anymore.

09-04-2008, 08:57 PM	#3
VinceNouvel HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 219 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Go Try This 2 Its almost a year... BUt no news from them.. Let me knowif u want to buy Go try This Black Hat 1.. I can hook you up with it..

09-04-2008, 09:14 PM	#4
revelation Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , New Zealand. Posts: 57 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Go Try This 2 no news from them? Yeh tell me about it, i know! shocking huh. I dunno whats goin on, but to some people who bought, I think its goin to affect John's reputation a bit. I still think hes great, very knowledgeable, but yeh, would have been nice to hear from the company. Oh well... Cheers guyz

09-05-2008, 11:47 AM	#6
VinceNouvel HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 219 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Go Try This 2 why is that richard?

09-05-2008, 01:01 PM	#7
revelation Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , New Zealand. Posts: 57 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Go Try This 2 I've just been having a bit of a read on John's blog (johnreel.com) and I'm not exactly sure what happened but its obvious he's been going through some tough times. On there he goes on about being rich at one stage then losing it all etc etc. Hmmmm, now maybe that explains the delay with GTT2?!

09-09-2008, 01:18 AM	#10
Chiayee Advanced Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bavaria Posts: 883 Thanks: 48 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Go Try This 2 I am an ower of Go Try This Black Hat edition. I am not a happy customer because 1. John initially promised to sell only limited number of Black Hat version of GTT, but he later sell more than he promised. I left a comment on his blog to question this, and it never got published. Can you say that he is lying? 2. The software has got a lot of bugs. Although the support team is quite helpful, but I got tired of the bugs and always have to email for support. 3. other reasons that have been mentioned in this thread. There's better script out there, go find it. cheers, CY
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09-09-2008, 01:30 PM	#12
revelation Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , New Zealand. Posts: 57 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Go Try This 2 Wow. Hay John really appreciate you coming in here and giving us the lowdown. At least know we heard direct from you and are no longer in the dark, again, really appreciate that and hope to see you around soon. All the best and we look forward to GTT2! Ciao.

09-09-2008, 06:12 PM	#13
upnorth Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 280 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Go Try This 2 John, Thanks for your follow-up. I hope this long R&D marathon will end positively both for you and your customers. Dan

09-10-2008, 02:33 PM	#14
sitemarketer www.GoTryTHIS.com War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada Posts: 137 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking	Re: Go Try This 2 When GoTryTHIS2 is released, there won't be limits on how many I sell. It's a complete rewrite, so I can do whatever I want! :-)
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09-11-2008, 04:43 AM	#15
Chiayee Advanced Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bavaria Posts: 883 Thanks: 48 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Go Try This 2 I look through the cache at Google, and GoTryThis sales page said: "FINAL NOTICE: I Will Pull The Plug On This Offer When All 1,500 Copies Are Sold, So Don't Ask! ... So, when I take this offer down, it will never be publicly sold again." GoTryTHIS Massive Affiliate Marketing Advantage Oh I am such a loser who whines and complains, didn't realize thaat GoTryThis and GoTryThis2 are entirely 2 different things... Oh well.. whatever..
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09-29-2008, 11:24 PM	#16
tommyp Coming Down w/ Tourette's War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 516 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Go Try This 2 I may be looking forward to GoTRyThis2 as long as it has all the blackhat features. What I really looked forward to is Gateway Magic. I know tehre is another service taht is almost identical but $47 fro Gateway is way better than the deakl the other guy has. John, I hope you open up the doors again to Gateway Magic.
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10-02-2008, 03:28 PM	#18
MikeAmbrosio Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,596 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 379 Thanked 465 Times in 294 Posts Contact Info	Re: Go Try This 2 I've been using GTT V1 since launch day and have never had any issues with it. No bugs I have ever found. As for the limited number released...did it actually sell out originally? I don't remember - my brain is getting old Mike

10-23-2008, 08:32 AM	#24
Dhira Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: California, USA. Posts: 2,052 Thanks: 114 Thanked 36 Times in 35 Posts Contact Info	Re: Go Try This 2 John, question about version 2. I am a fairly heavy version 1 user. It has one big problem. hen you have a lot of clicks on your links, it takes forever to log in. Eventually you WILL be unable to log it at all. I assume because the database is "full". I thought that one install would be enough for all my tracking - it is not. Now I cannot log i to my first install because it never loads (this is after hundreds of thousands of clicks to a few links). So...... will this be addressed in GTT2?
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05-02-2009, 12:14 PM	#26
Myheavens HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Canal Side Posts: 348 Thanks: 12 Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Go Try This 2 I wanted tp buy gotrythis ?? Can anyone tell me how to buy it ? because i cant find any place to buy this ?

07-18-2009, 08:33 PM	#27
sitemarketer www.GoTryTHIS.com War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Guelph, Ontario, Canada Posts: 137 Thanks: 5 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking	Re: Go Try This 2 Hi everyone. Just a quick announcement that GoTryTHIS 2 is now available, and with early bird discounts. Thank you, John. www.GoTryTHIS.com