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Unread 26th December 2012, 08:25 PM   #1
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Has anyone bought MOBE, my online business empire from Matt Lloyd and does it work? Heard its expensive at almost 2K. I see a lot of gurus emailing this.
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Hello macmani, I am part of the program MOBE (My Online Business Empire).

I had the same doubts and uncertaintiesas lile you before I joined.

Actually I researched a lot about how to make money online, internet marketing programs, systems, courses and etc. .. I really researched a lot.

I was interested in learning about how the internet marketing world worked, and I ended up stumbling upon the book. I read it fast and liked it very much too, because it opened my mind to many things and literally helped me understand the world of online business (which was something I had no idea before).

So what I suggest is that you read his book first, called IM Revolution Handbook.

After quickly reading the book then you can decide if you want to be part of his business or simply apply the same principles from the book to other type of business you find interesting.

Particularly, I became his partner for a little over two months and has already recovered my investment. I think it was well worth it., because the value they consider "high” to be part of the business has two major strengths: 1) it makes the business truly professional, selective and eliminate people who do not contribute and 2) you will have access to more than 60 hours of video courses about everything you can think of how to build a business on the internet.

If you have any further questions and want to send me a private message, feel free, I would do the same if I were in your place ..

I hope that I've helped.

Any questions, please make it here so everyone will be privileged with the answers.

If you, or anyone, want to ask any private questions fell free to PM me here or contact (chat or call) me on Skype and I will be pleased to do everything I can to help in your decision (just give a personal introduction and say that you come from the Warrior Forum to talk about MOBE). My Skype is: fillipo_andrey

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Hey Fillipo, I thought that no affiliate links were allowed in this Forum...
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hi ROberto, thanks for the advice. I only read the forum rules now, and removed the link.
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hi Jean, since I am new here, I had not read the forum rules. I removed the link. Hope I did not cause trouble.

The advice keeps the same, read the IM Revolution Book first to understand more about Matt Lloyds work.
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Hello macmani, I am part of the program MOBE (My Online Business Empire).

I had the same doubts and uncertaintiesas lile you before I joined.

Actually I researched a lot about how to make money online, internet marketing programs, systems, courses and etc. .. I really researched a lot.

I was interested in learning about how the internet marketing world worked, and I ended up stumbling upon the book. I read it fast and liked it very much too, because it opened my mind to many things and literally helped me understand the world of online business (which was something I had no idea before).

So what I suggest is that you read his book first, called IM Revolution Handbook.

After quickly reading the book then you can decide if you want to be part of his business or simply apply the same principles from the book to other type of business you find interesting.

Particularly, I became his partner for a little over two months and has already recovered my investment. I think it was well worth it., because the value they consider "high” to be part of the business has two major strengths: 1) it makes the business truly professional, selective and eliminate people who do not contribute and 2) you will have access to more than 60 hours of video courses about everything you can think of how to build a business on the internet.

If you have any further questions and want to send me a private message, feel free, I would do the same if I were in your place ..

I hope that I've helped.

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Big thanks Fillipo.. Sound advice.. Can you post me or send a link for more info to avoid upsetting the WF. Ethics Voluntary Protection Squad..
Also do you know of any other places for reviews on "MOBE" that you can point me too Fillipo?

Once again big thanks
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macmani and anyone else tempted by Matt Lloyds offer:

Please be very very careful. Once you enter the sales funnel you will be sent may emails enticing you in. That's not an issue of course, you should expect that. However there are links to sales pages within the emails that make very clear statements of what you should expect when you sign up –including conditions under which you can expect a full refund.
The problem is that when you do sign up they send you a contract to sign which has significant variations to what’s in the sales copy. One of their agents assured me that the sales copy was wrong and was being corrected and the contract couldn’t be amended to include what the sales copy says.
That’s not a problem you’d think: the offer is not what was indicated in the sales letter so a request for my money back wouldn’t be a problem. But no, here we are 7 days later and no refund, no indication of their intentions to refund, just an acknowledgement that they’d received my request.
So to recap:
  • Payment made
  • Contract Received
  • Significant differences to repeatedly sent sales info
  • Request refund
  • No sign of the refund yet.
Any ideas anyone?
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Hi Sjwarwick

Why were you asking for a refund, is the course/training not good? Yes, the issue you raised seems trouble, but my question is whether is it worth the hefty 2K they charge?
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macmani

Sorry if you don't think I'm addressing your question. For me it's about trust, particularly on such high priced items. I don't trust anyone that is not willing to honor the promises in their sales letters, it begs a number of other questions, does it not. I was also made to believe there was something wrong with expecting that they should honor their promises and that rather strangely I had gone out of my way to find a little known page on the internet that they had forgotten to take down rather than the reality that it was a link in emails that they repeatedly sent me and even continued to do so after my complaint. They are also sloppy in processing my refund. If you are happy to be offered one thing and find it's quite different when they send you the contract, then their proposition may still be right for you.
Just be careful; read the contract carefully before signing it, or better still ask for a copy of the contract before you hand over any money.
I have seen quite a number of steamy messages on this forum over $20 products that have not met the concrete promises in the sales blurb. This product has value significantly above $20. All that glitters in not gold.
It's a pity others haven't given more direct experiences.
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This is very useful and concerning information. Thanks sjwarwick for the honest experience. I'm certainly interested in the Matt's offer, but I'm harrowed enough by 9 months in IM to do a lot of research especially before buying anything more than about $10.

There are a lot of great testimonials on the Matt's videos and sales pages but I'd like to see some on independent sources like WF.

If anyone in the program feels like answering, here are some of my outstanding concerns:

1. Matt leaves the two four-letter words relatively unclear. Cost and Work. What kind of investment in advertising are people expected to make before the ads are paying for themselves, and how much time? What kind of work are Matt's successful "partners" actually doing?

2. What does Matt really need us for? If its as simple as taking out ads that he already provides, couldn't he just hire filipinos to post ads all day? How do his partners end up fitting into his system?

If anyone is a big Matt Lloyd fan and would be into answering these questions, that'd be great. I think these are very reasonable questions for "the public" to see displayed, meaning don't just tell me "Hey PM me and I'll tell you all about it." Post the freakin answers

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Hi Josh.

I will try to awnser your questions (I am from Brazil, so I will strive to write my best in english):

1) If you join Matt's partnership, you will pay US$1997,00 dollars (or 4x of 597,00) to full license of MOBE (My Online Business Empire) to sell his products and program to others. Obviously, it also includes all training courses like:

MOBE Licensee course ==> Will teach you, step-by-step how to sell the MOBE program (even if you just started in the internet, like me).

My Online Marketing Empire - 8 hours => teaches you about e-mail marketing, which can be applied to any other affiliate product.

Funded Proposal - 17 hours - on how to build your sales funnel for MOBE or for your own products

Affiliate Bonus - 11 hours - About affiliate marketing, and affiliate marketing sucessful strategies

OPT Formula - 14 hours - About Outsourcing, what, how, when and where to outsource your work.

As you see, the sum of this equals more than 60 hours of video courses.

Besides that you are allowed (own the License) to promote and sell his full promgram to others.

Currently there are seven distinct products that you can earn 90% commissions on and one at 50%.

$1997 MOBE License Rights (Full Program)
$2400 10,000 Leads in 100 Days (50% commission)
$97 per month Inner Circle Membership
$194 – My Email Marketing Empire
$194 – OPT Formula (Outsourcing Formula)
$291 - Affiliate Bonus Domination
$194 - Funded Proposal
$9.95 – IM Revolution Handbook

What you need to do:
- Drive traffic to any product squeeze pages. After that, once any person optins in, your affiliate tracking id will be linked to that lead and to your MOBE account. Any person who buys any product, you get commissioned.

How his staff converts the sales:
- He has e-mail follow ups, webinars, videos and a team who calls the person helping them with their doubts, offering the products and closing the deals.

Investment before ROI:
Well, this is kind of an abstract answer, in my humble opinion. It depends. If you already have a IM target list of prospects or a blog with targeted traffic you will sell very quick with low investment. If you are like me, which started in the internet 3 months ago (and already made 2 sales = 3,000 in comission) I spent 500 dollars in solo ads to achive that, so that is 1500 of profit, so I almost paid already my investment on the program. It still a vey low investment. But some people spend more or buy some co-reg partnership systems with Matt, or spend more on Facebook ads etc. Well, it is up to you.... You just need to apply all the Internet Marketing strategies to drive traffic and promote the offers.

Matt Lloyd also gives 3 free coaching calls sessions with his team for new Licensees, I still have one left.

What kind work succesfull partners are doing: Solo ads, Building lists of prospects and maintaining good relatioships with their lists (giving good content and offering MOBE), Facebook ads, buying Media (banners - something I did no experiment yet). They are also doing ADswaps, some bonus strategies and etc.

2) Why Matt need us? Well, actually he does not need us to sell his individual training courses. He actually do the ads on his own (or hire a philipino), like any other marketer that had built a info training product like him.

So, he just created a different business model in order to have a high ticket program and to give a license to sell his products as well. So he charges that high value to Licensees and give them all the sales funnel and technological support and pay them a hich ticket value in commission also. This high commissions, makes everyone motivated and encourages people to join. In the end, the courses you receive are already 1,997 dollars worth, so to receive all that courses and still have a whole sales funnel set for you, is something very amazing and professional, I think.

And, if you think, the same investment you will pay to promote a 25 dollar product, is to promote to a 2,000 dollar product. You just need to target the right audience. So that is Matt Lloyds business model - he packaged a high ticket program and pays high commissions to "partner or affiliates";

MOBE Group in Facebook is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/mobecommunity/

Matt Lloyd is very reachable there, you may have the chance to ask all the question you want there as well.

About the problem our fellow "sjwarwick" had above, well, I respect that, and hope he solves it. But, sincerely, until now, I did not have any problem at all. All the payment process, sales page and all my backoffice support questions are answered and I did not have any technical or business related issues. And all the support staff are also reachable in the Facebook when I need faster answers.

Do you have any other questions?
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Thank you very much for putting the time into writing this all out. I appreciate what you have to say and all your honesty. Congratulations also on making 2 sales with only 500 invested. Well done!

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Josh, my pleasure, I hope it helped a bit. Any questions, ask here or feel free to pm me.
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Has anyone bought MOBE, my online business empire from Matt Lloyd and does it work? Heard its expensive at almost 2K. I see a lot of gurus emailing this.
It works, so long as you work the system. Think of it like buying a treadmill - it won't magically cause you to lose weight. You have to first get on it and put in the effort to see results. A few results so far: My Online Business Empire | Case Studies


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macmani and anyone else tempted by Matt Lloyds offer:

Please be very very careful. Once you enter the sales funnel you will be sent may emails enticing you in. That's not an issue of course, you should expect that. However there are links to sales pages within the emails that make very clear statements of what you should expect when you sign up –including conditions under which you can expect a full refund.
The problem is that when you do sign up they send you a contract to sign which has significant variations to what’s in the sales copy. One of their agents assured me that the sales copy was wrong and was being corrected and the contract couldn’t be amended to include what the sales copy says.
That’s not a problem you’d think: the offer is not what was indicated in the sales letter so a request for my money back wouldn’t be a problem. But no, here we are 7 days later and no refund, no indication of their intentions to refund, just an acknowledgement that they’d received my request.
So to recap:

Payment made
Contract Received
Significant differences to repeatedly sent sales info
Request refund
No sign of the refund yet.

Any ideas anyone?
sjwarwick - let me explain a few things.

Firstly, I've tried to make the refund terms very clear on each of our 27 or so products - if you feel they were misleading in any way, then please, contact me directly on Facebook, and we can have a conversation about it.

I and my business are far from perfect- over the course of the last 2 years, we've experienced some very rapid growth, and like with any fast growing company sometimes mistakes are made.

It's never intentional, and, when people bring this stuff to my attention I do try to get it fixed as soon as I can.

If I'm in the wrong, then contact me directly, and I'll correct it.

Secondly, I'm well aware our support desk is not responding to tickets as fast as they should. Basically, I have had 1 lady in support taking care of the whole thing, and, a few months ago things got to a point where it was just too much for one person to handle.

We hired a few extra staff members, which didn't work out... and then recently (literally in the last 4 days) we contracted a hiring agency to get two new staff members on board.

They are now being trained and will be able to help get our average response time down to less than 36 hours (at least that is our goal).

In the mean time, I'm more than happy to help you out personally- so again, contact me directly on Facebook. I'm on 7 days a week and I will usally be able to get back to you within 48 hours, depending on my schedule.


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1. Matt leaves the two four-letter words relatively unclear. Cost and Work. What kind of investment in advertising are people expected to make before the ads are paying for themselves, and how much time? What kind of work are Matt's successful "partners" actually doing?

2. What does Matt really need us for? If its as simple as taking out ads that he already provides, couldn't he just hire filipinos to post ads all day? How do his partners end up fitting into his system?
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Hey Josh, maybe I can help.

The cost for the MOBE License Rights program is 1997, or, 4 monthly installments of 597.

As far as work goes... that will depend on a lot of things.

Do you currently have a list? Are you starting from scratch?

Basically, your main cost is going to be driving traffic - advertising.

You can get started for as little as $20 a week (though this will get you hardly any paid traffic)... or, you can be much more agressive with what you invest in your traffic, and be spending over 1k a week.

Totally depends on how fast you want to grow things, what your comfort level is with investing funds in traffic that may or may not pan out, etc.

The main thing is to be tracking everything as you go, so you can see what does and doesn't.

Then it's simply a manner of allocating funds to the traffic sources with highest ROI.

(starve the ponies, feed the stallions)

To answer your second question - the truth is, I don't need partners. I spend over 50k a month on my own advertising, and, can make sales on my own without partners, and keep more of the margins (which I already do).

But, with partners, I get a few other benefits:

1.) A ton of success stories / testimonials, that I can use in my marketing to make more sales for both myself (and my partners)

2.) Much, much greater exposure and reach.

And, as an aside, it's kinda cool knowing that my company provides an income for a LOT of people in this industry.

Having affiliates is just one of the pillars of my marketing strategy. I'll admit, it's a big one, and a lot of my business does come from parthers- but I AM in the trenches myself doing what I teach on a daily basis.

Hope that answers your questions.

If you have anymore... the best way to reach me may be in my FB groups, because I only check the Warrior Forum every week or so...

Thanks guys.
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Hi Matt,

Thanks for taking the time to post the clarifications raised here and also to fillipomadella for his very detailed responses to the questions.

Good luck to you both

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Very impressed with the responses to the issues in joining Matt Lloyd's partnership program and this has been a very revealing and satisfying discussion giving me the confidence to join the MOBE partnership. Thanks for all your input and it does show there is value in this forum for us all.
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So what about the sales letter that only mentions the $49 deposit and the $5000 that you only spend after you make 10 times that, but then you find out a week or so in that you must cough up $2000?

Sounds to me like that's the reason he needs us.

Did we really think it would be any different?
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This looks like (there's a sucker born every minute) marketing. You need to check your morals at the door if you wish to proceede with this method. Similar to MLM whereby the hustle is all about finding other suckers to follow you through the door.
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I don't know about you people, but from the way some of the posters described, it certainly sounds like a pyramid (where there is no real product sold, only membership fees). MLM is legitimate if it's used to sell tangible, or even information products.
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Yes, I bought into this program on May 23, 2013 and have had one excuse after another as to why I can't get access. Obviously these people have no idea about how to set up a website or login. First they blamed infusions soft, then they said it was because they were changing platforms, then it was because they were changing websites. seriosly? I paid so far over $2300 and have not even been able to get access, and that's after spending more than 2 hours on the phone with the so called "Traffic Coach" from what I have seen, he's just flogging product that everyone else sells for $27.00 but because he sees himself as some sort of guru, he's asking $2000 and that's just to start. If you want titanium it's another $3000 and if you want plantinum it's another $5000. I have no idea if it works and I refuse to spend another day trying to just login! I've asked for a refund but it takes days and days to get a response from support and Matt, who says he is always accessible....well he is until you tell him his process sucks and you want a refund. Then everyone goes silent.
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Yes, that's exactly what it is. Just another MLM but there is NO product that you can't get right here on the warrior forum on any PLR site. No tangible product. And good luck getting access to what you purchase. That seems to be an impossible task and support doesn't answer their tickets...I've even sent Matt messages via his facebook page. When you're fed up after weeks of excuses and BS and ask for a refund, no one answers.


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Yes, their sales letter reads completely differently then the contract. My first response to a request for a refund was "you have to try 3 of the tactics and if you don't make any money after 12 months, if you provide proof of your efforts and you will get a refund" however, the sales letter says 90 days. I repsonded quite simply that the first part of the contract was the company ie MOBE was to provide a working fully functional product. It is impossible to complete anything if you can't get access to what you just paid $2000 for and are hit with every excuse, including "it's your computer" from blinkzoids who obviously know little to nothing about computers in the first place. When I pointed this out to their "support person"...and that either they could refund me or I would take whatever measures necessary to obtain a refund, I was refunded immediately. Sometimes they don't know who they're talking to...Anti Trust isn't something you want on your case...felonies don't go down to well. Being MCSE certified and with a sister in law who is an anti trust attorney has it's benefits sometimes. They tell me they have processsed a refund, and I will have it in 5 to 7 days. Matt talks a good talk I see. However, he starts out talking about all this money he's making and his partners are making and this amazing system he paid all this money for, how he's spending $50K a month on advertising, but didn't bother to ensure he had a functioning website? A proper support system? A server that could take the load? C'mon man...I'm just not buying that...no way no how.
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Does ANYONE, have ANY IDEA, where Matt Lloyd's Registered Office is located and how he can be RELIABLY contacted in a proper businesslike fashion ?

Alternatively, Mr Lloyd may indeed be operating as a Sole Trader. It is unfortunately somewhat unclear, from the MOBE License Agreement(upfront), quite WHAT the situation actually is ?
In many Important respects, the Contractual agreement, seems delightfully vague.

MOBE Licensees will be aware from their Contract document that they HAVE upon such, an address which may be EITHER - Matt Lloyd's residential address, OR business address, or possibly BOTH - at the time of contract execution, but NOT necessarily, his current address in EITHER respect at the present time ?

His explicit instruction to all MOBE Licensees to message him on Facebook with their business concerns and inquiries, is MORE -- in my carefully considered opinion, than just a little HOKEY - for what is being constantly and very heavily promoted as a supposedly efficient activity that is purportedly, a Multi million dollar business.

But then, what would I know, as just a mature age 3rd year Business Law student and an established Legal Expert Witness on Engineering disputation affairs ?

I live in Perth - Western Australia - Matt's hometown and even I - do NOT know where his Registered Office is, although I do know that his WORKING office - which May Or may NOT be his Registered Office, for Legal and Taxation purposes, is ONLY 3 suburbs, say - about 5 miles away from where I live.

I have asked - in vain, for his contact details AND provided him - with mine. If he will NOT even pickup the phone at a cost of ONLY 16 cents, - UN METERED - to communicate with ME -- at a business level, then what hope do you think that YOU have ?
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The only ad copy I looked at was their video - in which he went on and on about how he's giving away this program "absolutely free". This for the sake of getting future testimonials...

THEN we quickly learn that "absolutely free" means a $50 "application fee" - with NO REFUND - until you complete 21 (TWENTY ONE) steps...
Steps which you are completely clueless about until AFTER you pay...!!!

Now I hear there's ALSO a TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR price to be paid - for this "absolutely free" offer?

And, "21 Steps" sure gives them plenty of time and opportunity to trip you up b4 refund time!!

Let me be the first to call this duck a duck: SCAM!!!
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The only ad copy I looked at was their video - in which he went on and on about how he's giving away this program "absolutely free". This for the sake of getting future testimonials...

THEN we quickly learn that "absolutely free" means a $50 "application fee" - with NO REFUND - until you complete 21 (TWENTY ONE) steps...
Steps which you are completely clueless about until AFTER you pay...!!!

Now I hear there's ALSO a TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR price to be paid - for this "absolutely free" offer?

And, "21 Steps" sure gives them plenty of time and opportunity to trip you up b4 refund time!!

Let me be the first to call this duck a duck: SCAM!!!
thanks for the valuable info, jambaman!

today i received an affiliate email from igor kheifets with the following subject:
Re: Don't Let Anyone Else See This

the email started like this:

"I hope you can keep a secret because some pretty
influential people don't want me to show this to you.

Leaking this information will cost them a lot of money.

But you can see the link below because I know this can
help you improve your financial situation incredibly quickly.

So I just had to share it with you"

I just thought: "yeah, it is such a big secret that you had to share it with me and everyone else on your huge mailing list!!! ROFL

ok, the super secret link sent me to one of those promo videos, not too cheesy, located on the makingmoneyonlinehotline.com domain, which is why i initially didn't recognize it was the same "my online business empire" from Matt Lloyd program (but on applying you are redirected to it)...

so as jambaman said, he went on and on about how he's giving away this program "absolutely free".

i have to make a disclaimer here: i didn't apply for this program, so i can't say if it is good or not, but what i can say is that these tactics of getting people on board of a program are absolutely hideous and deceiving, which is basically why i didn't apply: a free program to apply for paying 49 bucks! :confused:

and according to the posters here ALSO a TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR price has to be paid - for this "absolutely free" offer:confused:
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Hi,

As a MOBE license partner i just want to say that MOBE is one of the best companies i've seen online.

Maybe as Matt said before, things are not perfect (and there is not a company that is perfect anyway), however the truth is that people are getting results, people are getting value, and MOBE has helped a lot of people to change their way of life.

Like any business you need hard work and dedication to make it work. And if you are willing to do that, with the right mindset then you will have results because actually few people are willing to do the hard work it requires, and then they just start blaming others because of their failures.
This applies of course to any business, because the get rich quick stuff doesn't exist, and Matt Lloyd doesn't promise that.


On the $50 application fee for My Top Tier Business 21 Steps, that's just because what you get is one on one caoching sessions, besides all the great training you have inside. So imagine how much time it would consume if all people get in. It would be a waste of time for the coaches, and for the people that actually want to learn and are commited (that are the few, the ones just looking for free stuff i've seen that normally they are lazy and just want the get rich fast things)
No other program offers one on one coaching for $50. And if you decide this program is not for you, that's is fine however i assure that you would still love the product.

The 2k people is talking about is to get the licenses of his products, as was explained above. So you can either invest in this, or create your own products, customer service, phone team, funnel, all technical things, training, etc.. (that would take much more than 2K to create all that, and the time needed to do that is a lot actually).

It's like a McDonalds. You can either create your own brand, or you can purchase a franchise using McDonalds leverage.
It's the same idea here.

Well, i went a little long, however just wanted to state some facts so when someone reads this can have all the information available and then decide if this is really a Scam or not.

Hope this helps

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I found this offer through through John Chow and he assured everyone through the comments, that there was no fees apart from the $49 application fee and offered $500 if you don't make $1000 within 30 days of completing their 21 steps.

If it sounds to good to be true it usually is!

The first 6 steps actually have some good information in, if it was a free or cheap product I'd be impressed but this is nothing but a 6 step sales letter to make you purchase their rights program, tricking you into thinking you can make money online from others when really your the one being sold to.

The personal coach you get just keeps talking about the program and how much others make but my question was what's the product. The product is selling the rights to sell the rights to his magical products that nobody knows about.

These people are seriously unbelievable on step 6 they make you receive a call and will say to you it's only nineteen ninety seven to buy the rights, so makes you think $19.97 right? They go through and pressure you for your payment details and get you to buy right then, it's only then you find out its actually $1997.00. Then they say oh yes we told you that, well that is truly meant to deceive that I ever heard of, if its $1997.00 you say one thousand, nine hundred and ninety seven on the phone.

Forget the analogy of McDonald's think more of a broken down burger shack.

Not impressed by this being promoted by john chow as I value some of his information, forget the offer of $500 as you will never see it and nobody will guarantee this offer.

It's not a business opportunity it's a poor MLM scheme
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[QUOTE=NicoRamirez;8345966]Hi,

...

On the $50 application fee for My Top Tier Business 21 Steps, that's just because what you get is one on one caoching sessions, besides all the great training you have inside. So imagine how much time it would consume if all people get in. It would be a waste of time for the coaches, and for the people that actually want to learn and are commited (that are the few, the ones just looking for free stuff i've seen that normally they are lazy and just want the get rich fast things)

...

/QUOTE]

Nico, if you have to pay $50 for coaching (and even if it is an absolute steal for all what you get) IT IS NOT FFFRRREEEEEEE!!!!

I don't say this is a good or bad program, I only say that if you promote something as beeing free, how do you go on and ask money for it? Why don't you let people choose if they want to pay for the coaching or not? :confused:

I know that I hate these schemes, and I am certain that at least 1997 warriors here on the forum would agree with me!

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I nearly signed up for this i am so grateful for the helpful comments, i could have lost a lot of money.
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I actually got as far as hitting the submit button to purchase the $49 membership, but the transaction was denied by my credit card provider. When I called them, they told me that this company presents a high risk of fraud, has lots of chargebacks against it (at least in their database) and that if I wanted to proceed with the transaction anyway, they would not investigate or honor any chargeback requests that I made for this company. Needless to say, I directed them NOT to let if go through.

That says it all!
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IT IS A SCAM!!! I CANCELLED WITH THEM MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO AND THEY KEEP TAKING MONEY OUT OF MY ACCOUNT. IT'S BEEN A NIGHTMARE GOING THROUGH MY BANK. AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!
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MATT - YOU ARE SCAMMING ME OUT OF MONEY WHEN I CANCELLED IN MARCH 2013. YOU ARE DRAINING MY ACCOUNT AND I'VE HAD TO GET MY BANK INVOLVED. I DO NOT WANT TO BE A PART OF YOUR "EMPIRE" AND I WANT MY MONEY BACK!!!!!!!!


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It works, so long as you work the system. Think of it like buying a treadmill - it won't magically cause you to lose weight. You have to first get on it and put in the effort to see results. A few results so far: My Online Business Empire | Case Studies




sjwarwick - let me explain a few things.

Firstly, I've tried to make the refund terms very clear on each of our 27 or so products - if you feel they were misleading in any way, then please, contact me directly on Facebook, and we can have a conversation about it.

I and my business are far from perfect- over the course of the last 2 years, we've experienced some very rapid growth, and like with any fast growing company sometimes mistakes are made.

It's never intentional, and, when people bring this stuff to my attention I do try to get it fixed as soon as I can.

If I'm in the wrong, then contact me directly, and I'll correct it.

Secondly, I'm well aware our support desk is not responding to tickets as fast as they should. Basically, I have had 1 lady in support taking care of the whole thing, and, a few months ago things got to a point where it was just too much for one person to handle.

We hired a few extra staff members, which didn't work out... and then recently (literally in the last 4 days) we contracted a hiring agency to get two new staff members on board.

They are now being trained and will be able to help get our average response time down to less than 36 hours (at least that is our goal).

In the mean time, I'm more than happy to help you out personally- so again, contact me directly on Facebook. I'm on 7 days a week and I will usally be able to get back to you within 48 hours, depending on my schedule.




Hey Josh, maybe I can help.

The cost for the MOBE License Rights program is 1997, or, 4 monthly installments of 597.

As far as work goes... that will depend on a lot of things.

Do you currently have a list? Are you starting from scratch?

Basically, your main cost is going to be driving traffic - advertising.

You can get started for as little as $20 a week (though this will get you hardly any paid traffic)... or, you can be much more agressive with what you invest in your traffic, and be spending over 1k a week.

Totally depends on how fast you want to grow things, what your comfort level is with investing funds in traffic that may or may not pan out, etc.

The main thing is to be tracking everything as you go, so you can see what does and doesn't.

Then it's simply a manner of allocating funds to the traffic sources with highest ROI.

(starve the ponies, feed the stallions)

To answer your second question - the truth is, I don't need partners. I spend over 50k a month on my own advertising, and, can make sales on my own without partners, and keep more of the margins (which I already do).

But, with partners, I get a few other benefits:

1.) A ton of success stories / testimonials, that I can use in my marketing to make more sales for both myself (and my partners)

2.) Much, much greater exposure and reach.

And, as an aside, it's kinda cool knowing that my company provides an income for a LOT of people in this industry.

Having affiliates is just one of the pillars of my marketing strategy. I'll admit, it's a big one, and a lot of my business does come from parthers- but I AM in the trenches myself doing what I teach on a daily basis.

Hope that answers your questions.

If you have anymore... the best way to reach me may be in my FB groups, because I only check the Warrior Forum every week or so...

Thanks guys.
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MLM ?? No Products ?? SCAM ??
You guys are absolutely nuts !!

Here are some facts...

$49.00.. admin fee..
You are now an affiliate..
access to COMPLETE Sales Funnels.. with products !!

If you get any new affiliates.. you make % from their sale..
What's wrong with that ?!?!

You DON'T have to upgrade your m'ship..
but if you don't.. anyone that you bring in from your advertising..
upgrade their m'ship.. you leave money on the table.
But again.. that's your call !!

This program gives you the opportunity to have a complete Sales Funnel..
set up for you.. with products to make affiliate $$.. & a sales team to close your prospects for you..
all for $45.00 !!!

It's true that 98% of people won't make a cent online..
& will only bitch & moan about it.
Guess I now know where to find you all !!

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What's wrong with that ?!?!
Auseek, Are you serious? I will assume you do not know how MLM works, because if you did then you just answered your own question.

Anyways, I wish you the best if you are having great success with the porgram (and hope you are not paid to clean up Matt's tainted image).

I got an email from Offervault. I am glad I did a bit of background check before signing up for this (obvious) scam.
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Sounds like another empower network scam
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I nearly signed up for $49, for me living here in the Philippines and is currently flat broke and in debt, it is quite a huge amount of money. I'm glad I was able to stumble upon this forum.

The offer was really tempting since I've been struggling and really want to make my first online earning in a huge way. But I guess, i'll just go find another system that is free and not a scam.
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Sounds like another empower network scam
im a newbie in Internet Marketing industry and basically i dont know much about it and the programs that are legits and scams. ive heard of empower network, so it is also a scam...

i hope there will be a successful IM guru out there that will sincerely help the struggling internet marketers like me who can't even pay a small amount of entry fee and will guide us step by step without charging anything and will only get commissions after the apprentice will eventually succeed. but i think its far from reality.
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Been away from this forum for quite a while. Seems like many are continuing to seek the Brass Ring.
So many are eager to pay for "knowledge" that is so readily available for FREE (except the investment of time and energy).
Fortunes to be Made Do Not need a "membership" into a "program".
The creation of a product, or the marketing of a legitimate Affiliate PRODUCT can generate comfortable and reliable cash flow for a long time.
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I joined Matt's program nearly 5 months ago and it didn't live up to his promises so I kept asking for a refund and I have been ignored since my first request.
Then recently I was told that John Chow is the real owner of the program, not Matt.
Everything started to make sense to me then. I was told this was a well known secret among the gurus, which is the big reason why no other gurus other than John have ever promoted Matts program.(which is really Johns program) After checking out Johns website, it is noticeable that he has been the top promoter of this deal since the very first day it began. Ok, so that is fine and expected, but there is a whole lot more to the story. John is not just a promoter of the deal, and always the guest speaker at the seminars, hes the owner.
Basically, I was told that John really just wanted a Front-man to follow his commands so that John could keep playing the role of a super affiliate, when he really is the true owner of the program.

I have given up on asking for my refund because nobody will respond. I wish someone had shared this little secret with me before I had spent all this time following Matts fake story of how he used to clean toilets and then became an internet hotshot overnight.
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I'm calling BS on this posting.

John Chow does NOT own MOBE.

It belongs to Matt Lloyd (a former student of Jonathan Budd who is also promoting it).
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Overpriced MLM program, not cool.
Btw: of course a lot of "gurus" are taking on it, because they're affiliated with it, lol
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im a newbie in Internet Marketing industry and basically i dont know much about it and the programs that are legits and scams. ive heard of empower network, so it is also a scam...

i hope there will be a successful IM guru out there that will sincerely help the struggling internet marketers like me who can't even pay a small amount of entry fee and will guide us step by step without charging anything and will only get commissions after the apprentice will eventually succeed. but i think its far from reality.
Neither one of them are scams. MOBE is overpriced for most people to get involved with. Plus, marketing it to the right people who can afford it is not easy. Definitely not a newbie program. Empower Network has more affordable options to work with, and takes awhile for some to learn how best to market it for the best earnings.

Even with some of the problems that these network marketing programs have, they pale in comparison to the affiliate products that are marketed on clickbank/clicksure... Wanna talk about scams/ worthless products.. I don't recall ever seeing a positive review of any clickbank/clicksure product on the WF at all..
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Josh, my pleasure, I hope it helped a bit. Any questions, ask here or feel free to pm me.
Hi Fillipomadella,
Thanks for info about Matt Loyd program MOBE.I am thinking to sign in.
You can contact me on my Skype ATCKK2011
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HI,
Which MLM is Good and not overpriced.
Thanks in advance.
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Hello! It's my first post here and I was brought here trying to learn more about MOBE. From what I understand it's a bit of a scam. The idea is that you buy the rights to his products, and you are trying to bring in more people to buy his products. Kind of like how you got suckered in and you try to sucker in more people. Is that kind of the jist of it? I mean ethically I don't care about it. I'm just trying to look for some extra income to supplement my full time job. Any others have more input on it?
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Hi,

As a MOBE license partner i just want to say that MOBE is one of the best companies i've seen online.

Maybe as Matt said before, things are not perfect (and there is not a company that is perfect anyway), however the truth is that people are getting results, people are getting value, and MOBE has helped a lot of people to change their way of life.

Like any business you need hard work and dedication to make it work. And if you are willing to do that, with the right mindset then you will have results because actually few people are willing to do the hard work it requires, and then they just start blaming others because of their failures.
This applies of course to any business, because the get rich quick stuff doesn't exist, and Matt Lloyd doesn't promise that.


On the $50 application fee for My Top Tier Business 21 Steps, that's just because what you get is one on one caoching sessions, besides all the great training you have inside. So imagine how much time it would consume if all people get in. It would be a waste of time for the coaches, and for the people that actually want to learn and are commited (that are the few, the ones just looking for free stuff i've seen that normally they are lazy and just want the get rich fast things)
No other program offers one on one coaching for $50. And if you decide this program is not for you, that's is fine however i assure that you would still love the product.

The 2k people is talking about is to get the licenses of his products, as was explained above. So you can either invest in this, or create your own products, customer service, phone team, funnel, all technical things, training, etc.. (that would take much more than 2K to create all that, and the time needed to do that is a lot actually).

It's like a McDonalds. You can either create your own brand, or you can purchase a franchise using McDonalds leverage.
It's the same idea here.

Well, i went a little long, however just wanted to state some facts so when someone reads this can have all the information available and then decide if this is really a Scam or not.

Hope this helps

Cheers!
This has to be one of the most disingenuous posts I've ever seen.

You completely sidestepped the issues people are having, instead insulting them for being "lazy", "failures", "blaming others for their failures", etc.

Every pyramid scam in the world trots out the tired old, pathetic, dishonest, despicable justification that people with the right attitude and work ethic had their lives changed for the better. What always goes unmentioned is that the funding for the few whose lives may have changed for the better (if they aren't just made up) came from scamming away the savings of the people (the vast majority) who spent money they could ill afford, and had their lives changed too, but not for the better. The life that benefits the most is that of the founder (if the law doesn't catch up to him).

The practices described in this thread are stunningly unprofessional, but more than that, they are flat out criminal, and unless everyone but you and Matt (one and the same?), is lying, I can only hope the law catches up with him.

I suggest all the survivors band together, get a good lawyer, and look into a class action lawsuit. Or at least hire a lawyer to draft a letter explaining that should full refunds not be received within (x) amount of days, (x) legal action will follow.
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Hello! It's my first post here and I was brought here trying to learn more about MOBE. From what I understand it's a bit of a scam. The idea is that you buy the rights to his products, and you are trying to bring in more people to buy his products. Kind of like how you got suckered in and you try to sucker in more people. Is that kind of the jist of it? I mean ethically I don't care about it. I'm just trying to look for some extra income to supplement my full time job. Any others have more input on it?
What kind of person reads a string of stories about people being scammed out of thousands of dollars while trying to better their lives, and says "ethically I don't care about it"? Sounds like you just want to make money and couldn't care less about anyone else.

If you don't care about others being ripped off, why should anyone care about you? With that attitude, I suggest you give up on the Warrior Forum; the Black Hat forum might be more your cup of tea.
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What I would like to know is why is it when you visit the main homepage LITERALLY all of the wording is the EXACT same? When I first visited there homepage, I thought, "hmm interesting page and layout", then I decided to actually read the homepage and that was when I realized every piece of wording is pretty much copied and pasted. Which is weird if you ask me. I can't vouch for the program by the way, some say good some say bad. My thoughts are basically if somebody is getting an education and value from it, and they choose to market there funnel, they should have every right to do so. If this product is based solely on upgrading with no value/education getting exchanged then I can see the problem.
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Is there anyone real here with real market results :-)
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Is there anyone real here with real market results :-)
Just need some stats... ads ran... sales made... that be cool... thanks...
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