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Old 06-24-2009, 02:21 PM   #101
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Is this untapped traffic source truly not PPC which involves spending a lot of money to compete against other richer affiliate who are currently dominating a niche? Is it truly cheap. If it does then it defeats the purpose of buying this course.

Does this method involve collecting leads and selling stuff to them over the phone? The thing I am worried about is English isn't my native language. If it involves creating a video or audio then it's no longer considered easy for me...

I read from one post that someone who in this program is gonna buy an article writing software for $127 to implement the plan, so isn't it learning towards article marketing or SEO? If so, then isn't that a long tedious painful process, and how can it be considered quick?

Is this not rehashed content?

Please shed some light without giving it away. I only have 1 hr left to decide but I think buying out of scarcity is really dumb
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Its about setting up squeeze page,building a list and then promoting affiliate products to them.
affiloblueprint?
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affiloblueprint is more detailed i guess.
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I have been reading the posts and I would like to buy BCM before it goes higher than $199 today. However, someone posted info about Jason Fladlien and I was looking over what he offers. Does anyone, of course in enough time for me to get BCM today, have any information on Jason Fladlien or a comparison of the two?

Thanks!
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The squeeze page concept is not new. But it became less popular (outside the IM niche) in the recent years especially after the Google Slap, because it became a lot harder to drive traffic directly to a squeeze page and often can result in losing money in the front end.

Most newbies can't afford that, nor outbid the veterans that's why they fail in PPC. They fail in SEO too because the number of competing pages has multiplied rapidly through the years. It's no longer easy to get ranked without spending a lot of time and money outsourcing, or on expensive automation tools.

So in order to make this system work again, you need tons of cheap traffic. The key is where and how? This is just my wild guess, but I could be wrong.
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There is no quick and easy way to make money. It takes finding your niche (something you are passionate about), finding a way that it relates to customers, then working very, very hard at making it a reality. Nothing more and certainly nothing less.

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Its about setting up squeeze page,building a list and then promoting affiliate products to them.
That`s it? I don`t think I`ll be getting this if its just about list building.

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I ended up buying the course... so scarcity does work.

I will watch the videos, implement the steps, and see if this is indeed the real deal
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Hi Justbeingtammy,

Jason Fladlien is a young guy with some good ways to make money online. He works with another young guy called Robert Plank who is also doing pretty well. These are two people you can trust.

Another great guy to look at is Steven Wagenheim ... you'll find lots by and about him if you search right here in WF. His stuff is solid.

There is one way to make money, other than printing it, and that is to SELL something. The devil is in the details and actually getting it done.

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Hello Gren,

Thanks so much for the info! It is much appreciated. This is a great site and I am glad that I found it!

Warm regards ~ Tammy
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For anyone that has bought this, can you answer me a question?

I've got a coupe of people in my coaching site asking me if they should get this. They are a little guy shy because of the price

Is the product for "beginners" meaning is it traffic to a squeeze page type stuff or does it get more advanced than that?

Would it be worth it for an intermediate marketer?

Please don't tell me exactly what it is as I don't want to expose the product to the world, but it would be nice if someone might be able to just answer those 2 questions. Thanks!

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I haven't bought it yet but I had heard people talk about the product being drip fed at a future start date. I have the impression that those that are buying today will not receive the first webinar at the time of purchase. Is this true?
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People in this thread have said they saw the first webinar I think...I'm pretty sure it was the Monday that just past.

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Kia ora Bryce!
Kapiti is where Im at....spose you just down the road lol.
OMG! No, hehehe - I bet it is cold down there at the moment I am in Tauranga (Mt Maunganui) and its cold here even....

Great to know there are fellow kiwis here, maybe we should do lunch, lol!

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For anyone that has bought this, can you answer me a question?

I've got a coupe of people in my coaching site asking me if they should get this. They are a little guy shy because of the price

Is the product for "beginners" meaning is it traffic to a squeeze page type stuff or does it get more advanced than that?

Would it be worth it for an intermediate marketer?

Please don't tell me exactly what it is as I don't want to expose the product to the world, but it would be nice if someone might be able to just answer those 2 questions. Thanks!

Jeremy
Its perfect for a beginner and Im sure an intermediate marketer knows of the specific way he describes driving the traffic but alot of people dont want to deal with the particular method like myself at first but I thought about how powerful it is. Right now Google loves that particular method there's no way around it.

I tried explaining it to you with out stepping on a land mine lol I dont want to put too much info out there about it. Hopefully that helps. Its definitely a method where you cant drag your feet in the mud its going to take some work.

He also says there are more videos coming out about ramping it up a level for more results I think its a good buy and he does have a money back guarantee.
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Everyone it is hard to answer all of the questions about BCM because those of us who have it have only gone through the first webinar. There is more advanced material coming....
Sherry, I bought and watched also...waiting for next material.
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I almost had it with this; I got access and there are things that for someone who works in real life marketing in a real work with a real salary and uses internet and platforms for the past 12 years would find enough to make him run away.

First of all: nothing impressive. Even if I was falling for the traffic method that would bring in the cash, honestly, I would not. Would you ever base your efforts on something that in a few weeks would be over saturated from all the spammers that will over use it and make the provider change it so that it does not work anymore to anyone’s benefit? Not to mention, that the videos will soon travel in black hat seo forum and be available for free to watch. As it always happens.

Second: what was ‘excellent’? because all that I have watched was someone trying to draw something that would eventually explain me how to make money fast to complement my income. Instead I got a video with a less than good sound, and talking about a method that it is not really a method. Well, it will soon stop being a method when the spammers get to it, at least for one of the three traffic methods that can be used.
Someone with very poor presentation skills was trying to show me how I can make money fast by using classic sites, that are used by tens of thousands of affiliate marketers, and classic methods for bringing traffic in. What I was expecting to see is someone who will show me:

- A step-by-step guide on how he makes money,
- Use cases shown from one end to another, with real samples of how he dealt with traffic, what the final deal was for bringing traffic in, how much it converted for this particular case, how long has been converting for…case studies, storyboards, you know what I mean
- The timeline to success; from point zero to the point that money comes in a recurring form, how much it comes along time, a ‘revenue’ watch on an excel sheet that will show me how the project that started on April, performs every single month
- The future: what plans can we make to capitalize on every hour spent on this method.

Instead, what I got was a small percentage of what I have already paid IN FULL to receive – and I have not. And I also have to be grateful because I bought it with 97% reduction in the initial price. So there we go, I will have to get everything in chunks, and wait for a week or more until I get what my money’s worth. For the initial price of $ 5,000 that is mentioned in the promo, forget it, don’t even mention it. Plus, I will have to filter it out every time on every video through endless blah blah. For the one hour and 46 minute video, I could easily zip it to 5 powerpoint slides for advanced users, and 10 or 12 slides for beginners.

Will I be asking for a refund? The answer is 'No' Because first, I want to view in full what I have paid for in advance; then, and only when I get to see the full product, I will ask for a refund.

So, enough of Marketing and real work for me for the next three weeks; I will be going on my summer holidays. Keep up your efforts, and enjoy your summer.
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Hi Kostas,

I am picking up on your comment about videos. I am getting sick of too much talking without useful content. On and on they drone, and Jordan's initial sales video is a prime example of no material content and the same few messages repeated time after time. Fortunately it was only 24 mintues.

As far as "instructional" and "promotional" videos in general, I wonder if I really need to see the finger press the key, or hear the presenter choke on his beer, probably not. I may need to know what actions to take. You are so right, using a few well written slides, some annotated screen shots, and some thoughtful voiceover would cut the time wasting fluff and create a really useful item that can be referenced (if the slides were given as a pdf or slideshow with the vids.)

But the business question is ... could I charge $199 for a 50 slide show?

I was really, really put off by Jordan's sales video. I think he could have listed clearly and generically, but in some detail, the contents of his vids. People who need the info and training will buy, people who don't won't. I did not get enough meat in the sales vid to judge if I would get worthwhile info if I purchased. I felt that he was selling hope. I don't often rant but this sales vid, coupled with your perceptive post pushed me over the edge .... GRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

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I almost had it with this; I got access and there are things that for someone who works in real life marketing in a real work with a real salary and uses internet and platforms for the past 12 years would find enough to make him run away.

First of all: nothing impressive. Even if I was falling for the traffic method that would bring in the cash, honestly, I would not. Would you ever base your efforts on something that in a few weeks would be over saturated from all the spammers that will over use it and make the provider change it so that it does not work anymore to anyone’s benefit? Not to mention, that the videos will soon travel in black hat seo forum and be available for free to watch. As it always happens.

Second: what was ‘excellent’? because all that I have watched was someone trying to draw something that would eventually explain me how to make money fast to complement my income. Instead I got a video with a less than good sound, and talking about a method that it is not really a method. Well, it will soon stop being a method when the spammers get to it, at least for one of the three traffic methods that can be used.
Someone with very poor presentation skills was trying to show me how I can make money fast by using classic sites, that are used by tens of thousands of affiliate marketers, and classic methods for bringing traffic in. What I was expecting to see is someone who will show me:

- A step-by-step guide on how he makes money,
- Use cases shown from one end to another, with real samples of how he dealt with traffic, what the final deal was for bringing traffic in, how much it converted for this particular case, how long has been converting for…case studies, storyboards, you know what I mean
- The timeline to success; from point zero to the point that money comes in a recurring form, how much it comes along time, a ‘revenue’ watch on an excel sheet that will show me how the project that started on April, performs every single month
- The future: what plans can we make to capitalize on every hour spent on this method.

Instead, what I got was a small percentage of what I have already paid IN FULL to receive – and I have not. And I also have to be grateful because I bought it with 97% reduction in the initial price. So there we go, I will have to get everything in chunks, and wait for a week or more until I get what my money’s worth. For the initial price of $ 5,000 that is mentioned in the promo, forget it, don’t even mention it. Plus, I will have to filter it out every time on every video through endless blah blah. For the one hour and 46 minute video, I could easily zip it to 5 powerpoint slides for advanced users, and 10 or 12 slides for beginners.

Will I be asking for a refund? The answer is 'No' Because first, I want to view in full what I have paid for in advance; then, and only when I get to see the full product, I will ask for a refund.

So, enough of Marketing and real work for me for the next three weeks; I will be going on my summer holidays. Keep up your efforts, and enjoy your summer.
I am not going to talk about or to the poster here, just the inane, boring, and tedious approach to someone elses product! In all my years online, I would have to say this is the most crap in one post I have ever read, and I cant believe someone else is actually agreeing with this rubbish!

The first thing I will make clear, even to the poster, is that the $5000 was never quoted as the PRICE for the product! The figure was used, but only in saying that this amount could easily be charged for the product. People should listen more to what they are presented with, instead of misunderstanding things and then quoting them as fact!

Secondly, the arrogance of this post in stating that he would wait for the duration of the program, and then claim a refund, yeah well we all know what that means. The poster (like so many others in this place) wants everything for nothing! If I were the seller of the product, and I read this post, I would be sending the money back to the buyer and telling him or her to get lost! Who needs this rubbish?

To all those people who have been a part of this thread and the product, and who are genuinely interested in the service and the upcoming program, I am sorry for this barrage of anger! For those who continue to jump on this or any other thread and bash the hell out of the product, and/or the people involved with the product, maybe you should head to Youtube. This is how they behave over there! Over there you would be celled "haters"

Oh and just a footnote to the poster of 1 post - "Enjoy your holiday"

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I will stop making my luggage for a while to answer you, and put something on the board for the rest of the people while I am waiting to sail for Crete.

Let's not rush towards making this a complete waste of time; Jordan may well have more to show us in his advanced tutorial, so we should allow him the opportunity to conclude his cycle of seminars.

Another thing; I know Warrior forum for many years. Although I read frequently, I rarely take part into any discussion, because often people see things here in one dimension, and there is a lot of granularity taking place. The good old 'helicopter view' concept has been completely forgotten and everything is being sacrificed on chasing Google's butt trying to make a buck or two. My points-and a bit of advice from a 41 year old man who melted his ass working on a real marketing job and still does- can be summarized as follows:

Quit chasing google’s behind as a top priority. Make it a 20% of your efforts so that you don’t whip so much in the end. The ‘helicopter view’ says: Google is a money making machine, and is liable to shareholders now. If you know how companies work, it means that they have to bring the numbers every quarter for two reasons: for the shake of their employees and for the shake of their shareholders. They need to strengthen their stock value and bring revenues YoY (Year on Year). To do this, they have to commercialize and monetize their products more and more. And it is happening: try ranking for a popular term; you will soon discover that on the top and right you have sponsored links. Inside organic reasults, you have ‘shopping results’ and on ranks 1-4 you have Wikipedia; can you outrank Wikipedia? Difficult. So if Wikipedia ranks number 4-meaning you can only rank below that- and one of the results is the shopping results, and if the first result belongs to the rightful owner, how many places have you got left to compete for? 4? 3? Could not be bothered less. Even if you try and rank for a < 500K results term, you still have troubles. The biggest lie is that it is easy to rank with such competition. Because, you may end up having a case where none of the 500K pages are competing and Google picks up the most suitable; or you may have all 500K web pages competing which is a nightmare to outrank.

Look into the future; would you spend 300 hours of your life working on something that may be gone because of someone else’s decision? Two examples: One, Google results; if Google decides to change the style sheet of their results page in such a way, so that to increase revenues, what will they do? They can change the layout so that sponsored links display in a more favorable manner. Or they can break down the results page into further pages; this will give them more space to spread their ads. And what is this ‘More options’ link doing on the top of the results? See? In a couple of years for them to survive they will have to think of something that will make most of SEO a thing to remember. I actually found out a way to rank to number 1 in Google. All I have to do is press a button, and there it goes; in two weeks I am number 1 for terms with 150 million results (There is actually one WSO with one guy who has come close in to breaking the secret-but only 50%). But I then quit; no WSO, no ebooks, never said anything, never will say. Because I see in to the future and I want every minute of my efforts to last and yield money for a decade to say the least. And Google is not a solid ground for something like that. Two, Goarticles article pages. They get a swirl of people writing articles and submitting to them. The good thing with goarticles is that they allow affiliate links. So thousand of people write articles every day, with affiliate links on them. Helicopter view again: my friend Angela Edwards suggested to submit articles with affiliate links to goarticles and dominate specific niches, which is great. Try see this in reverse; goarticles people suddenly see a massive spike in article submissions, because of all these people who get Angela’s beautiful product, and started writing articles and doing SEO to reach the top. A meeting is taking place in goarticles and marketers decide that they now have enough content in order to monetize it further; so it is time to bring some more revenue by adding sponsored links on articles displayed. Nice; so the reader of my article will now have to choose between clicking on my affiliate link, or clicking on the sponsored links, whereas before only my aff. Link was there. So because of a prick in goarticles who gets two grand a month for a salary and who never asked me, I found myself making at least 50% less in affiliate commissions than before. Get my drift?

What is the right thing to do? For me, you have to own your sites (because it is your own space where it is affected only by your own decisions) and you have to pay for your traffic (because it is a calculated risk that always pays off, and you make money as everyone does if they know what to do; you can actually buy traffic for as little as 0,6 of a penny per click or 0,60 CPM-just stay away from search ads because they are soo expensive). And these two will last for a decade, they look good for formulating my strategy for extra income and I know that my efforts will not go to the dust bin for the next decade to say the least. And for that I am sure. If you want to melt your shoes on SEO, try mobile search. Google has 100 million searches every day in Europe alone, and it is virtually untapped. And it is very easy to hit the top.

Sorry for the mumbling; going back to the filling luggage thing. I really look forward to going on holidays. You can check my holiday house by googling 'real estate crete' it is reasult number 5, go where it says 'villa rentals'.

Take care; and quit chasing Google’s …you know what. It will be good for you.
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I will stop making my luggage for a while to answer you, and put something on the board for the rest of the people while I am waiting to sail for Crete.

Let's not rush towards making this a complete waste of time; Jordan may well have more to show us in his advanced tutorial, so we should allow him the opportunity to conclude his cycle of seminars.

Take care; and quit chasing Google’s …you know what. It will be good for you.
As I said earlier, have a nice holiday!

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Enjoy your Vacation drink lots and lots of coffee rest and relax lol.
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Hi there folks.
I'm so glad that KostasP posted his thoughts on the Bullet Cash Method here.
In my opinion, his post was the first truly objective one here about this product.
I didn't sense 1 ounce of anger in either of his posts at all.
What I got was an objective opinion, touching on the real truths of the Bullet Cash Method so far.
His opinion just happened to be fairly accurate, I feel, and was definitely free from being obscured by one's hope for a product based on hype-based marketing.
What I don't like is Bryce's apparent position that he can tell others to get out of here because their view is contrarian, or in a different voice, to his, which happens to be subjectively "Pro Product".
Thank you.

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I completely agree with KostasP, its a best review of BCM on this thread.
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Hi Folks! Glad I discovered this forum, a lot of thoughtful reasoning and a bit of heat. Well, I thought KostasP posted some very interesting views to consider- did not seem angry but critical of some of JH's tactics.
I notice a lot of posts about JH's sales video said they were put on guard by the lack of information needed to make an educated choice....that lack of information sets up distrust- was this JH's intent? does he think that more detail would diminish his conversions? does he only want gamblers- I went for it- not comfortable, not really having $200 to spare this summer, so something had to go on hold- so I was impressed that the message worked on a level that my rational mind by itself was going osh*t! ...JH willing to put address and email that no other IMguru I have considered ever did ---and this forum --gave me comfort to invest time and $. Will be interesting to see if JH learns anything from comments in this forum when he creates his next sales vid. Anyway- what he teaches may not hit everyone's need but if there is enough value for many, then his following will help multiply his next effort. Would be nice to see a more intelligent sales approach work better than the SOS I see on the usual squeeze pages - some have tried intelligence and say that SOS ends up being used because sadly it works so much better...I hope for that to change and hope being upfront real person with integrity and direct contact will become a successful way to build a valuable relationship.

thanks to all of you who take the time to post to help us all,
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Hi there Sherry.
Some people can also get to work while still being analytical and decisive because gettign to work without doing either will likely turn in to a waste of time.
Thank you.

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Keith,

Let me get this right....

You are pimping a product and teaching people to do sales videos that don't tell anyone what they are getting?

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Hi all,

I want to give my opinion about this product. I bought it because of the promises that were made in the sales vid. Although there was no "real" info, the claims were sounding reasonable and not too far fetched. I thought that with my level of knowledge, I could make a good system (like this seemed to be), work for me.

Let me start out with giving some background information about myself. Most people here like to position themselves as "newbie" or "advanced" or whatnot.. But that doesnt tell me anything.

I started out in IM a year ago, and I am making around a 1000 bucks a month with it. Not too bad, but still looking for additional income streams and learning to get better. That's all there is to know, right? How long are you doing this, and how much are you making.

Anyway, about the product: Half an hour ago I read the actual "method" that was released today. This is really NOTHING new. I am currently learning way, WAY more advanced techniques for this exact same "method" from other sources.

Maybe if someone is a newbie (as in: not making a dime, I don't care how many books you bought, you are a newbie if you don't make money) Then this could be valuable. But for me it is most definitely not. I am serious about my learning, and I was hoping to pick up some great NEW strategy here. Not a new guy telling me once again what I have heard being explained way better before, way more advanced and in much greater detail.

So, will I go for the refund..?

Well he has still claims about the advanced traffic generation methods that are in the "advanced" module that is still to come. So I should cut him some slack.. But to be honest, he didn't make good on his claims until now, and I am running out of "slack" fast.

If the traffic generation methods hold a few real "gems" then this thing could very well be worth my time and money. But with what I have seen until now I find it hard to believe.

If it turns out that there is something worthwhile in this course I will definitely be back to say I was wrong. But for now I feel like I've been had, pretty bad.

Once again by the way, it might be a usable newbie course. But then SELL it as a newbie course. Not as some ground breaking new inventive money making system, because this is NOT any of that.
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Apologies to Lou and anybody else who may have been offended by my post of yesterday. I was expressing how I felt, and in regard to "telling someone to get out of here" - as I said, that is what "I would do" if a customer had this much grief about a product I was selling. Kosta's post clearly states that he intends to get all of the information and then claim a refund, that is unethical and I dont agree with it.

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parmezan, what part of his speech did you not understand? He said the first video was very basic and needs to be, because some people are brand spanking new to online business and marketing and they would be lost if there was not some ground breaking info for beginners.
It is way too early to be trashing this guy and what he has to offer.

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I've just put together one site and used the youtube traffic technique he discussed in the first video. I'll let you guys know how it goes :-). I actually created two sites, for two products, but haven't had the time to implement the traffic for that one yet. Tomorrow. Hopefully this will work as I expect it to.

Edit: I bet half the people bitching about the product don't make a penny from affiliate marketing. The point of his product, is to simplify it and to get people to take action and make actual money.. because it's easy to apply. He's also going to be going into more advanced topics. Can't wait to see them.. and results from the things he's taught so far that I've implemented.
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Just because Kosta's "review" had no anger in it doesn't make it any more accurate or objective. People, being human, will always be slanted in one way or another. I am sure the info in the first part video is not totally new to everyone, but to say it is useless is a pretty big claim. He gives some good ideas on how to make it more effective, or to get things going faster.

Anyway, like David M. I've put up one site and am trying to draw youtube traffic to it. I got an awesome title for it but I wonder why it doesn't show up in search results even when I pack it with my keywords? I'm hoping it just takes a bit of time. And I've started on some ppc on it as well though I think the youtube method will be more effective...

Altogether it has taken a bunch of work. It was not easy and it took probably over 10 hours (but most of that was because I was doing things for the first time and wasted time doing inefficient things). In the future I suspect it should take me 3-5 hours per site if I only do it the youtube way.

Total I've spent (besides the cost of the course):
- $9 domain name
- $19/mo for aweber-clone signup (unlimited # of subs unlike aweber)
- $30 deposit for PPC
= $58

Hmm I think that's all... I already had hosting, etc. I have high hopes for the youtube method... keeping my fingers crossed.
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Bryce, regarding refunds and Kosta, I must say that I have asked for Many refunds the last few months or so, many.

And every time I had thoughts and feelings of guilt, because I am a good man, trust and believe in what people say straight up.......but, it is obviously True to me and maybe many others, that these Sales pages or Capture pages very rarely live up to the hype.

I have emailed several of these entreprenuers and told them they need to go back and read their own sales page over again. Because the material is way off course from what they were claiming.

For instance, all these super Guru's and their Clickbank Codes and so forth, fail to mention that your success all comes down to how well you can Track, Adjust, Tweak, your keywords, ad copy, landing pages, keyword bids and so forth.

So there is always too much room for failure. But.....they do not mention this in the sales piece. They come across as if this is secret info that if anyone follows it, they can succeed and rake in thousands monthly and sometimes daily.

So, for that reason I do not feel bad or guilty at all about refunds, because you never really know what you have gotten for your money, until you have taken a look at it.

sometimes what they propose just does not feel good to you or comfortable, like in the old days when you had to call people on the phone. They made it sound like, these people have all shown an interest and this is a piece of cake getting money out of them. Bull****!

This is Not unethical whatsoever, based on past experience!

This will make some people pissed off, but when I have asked for some of these refunds, I continued to be allowed into the members areas and still got downloads, updates and access to everything that the othes got.

For instance, Arbitrage Conspiracy was a joke to me and I asked for a refund but was denied. But....they had a two payment plane or was it three, don't remember, hmmmm

Anyway, I made sure they could not charge me for the second payment, but to this day I can still log into the members area and review everything there that the other current members have access to.

Is this a mistake or do these people make so much money off of us, that they just don't care what happens after they have rounded up hundreds of thousands or in the case of AC, Millions?

AC guys allowed in 3,000 people at $2,100. Do the math!

Have a good one friends,

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Just because Kosta's "review" had no anger in it doesn't make it any more accurate or objective. People, being human, will always be slanted in one way or another. I am sure the info in the first part video is not totally new to everyone, but to say it is useless is a pretty big claim. He gives some good ideas on how to make it more effective, or to get things going faster.

Anyway, like David M. I've put up one site and am trying to draw youtube traffic to it. I got an awesome title for it but I wonder why it doesn't show up in search results even when I pack it with my keywords? I'm hoping it just takes a bit of time. And I've started on some ppc on it as well though I think the youtube method will be more effective...

Altogether it has taken a bunch of work. It was not easy and it took probably over 10 hours (but most of that was because I was doing things for the first time and wasted time doing inefficient things). In the future I suspect it should take me 3-5 hours per site if I only do it the youtube way.

Total I've spent (besides the cost of the course):
- $9 domain name
- $19/mo for aweber-clone signup (unlimited # of subs unlike aweber)
- $30 deposit for PPC
= $58

Hmm I think that's all... I already had hosting, etc. I have high hopes for the youtube method... keeping my fingers crossed.
You have to give youtube a few days, also don't forget to do the video responses, I submitted a lot and they are just getting accepted.

Haven't tried the PPC method, since that video isn't out yet.

Let me know how it goes for you, I will as well.
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parmezan, what part of his speech did you not understand? He said the first video was very basic and needs to be, because some people are brand spanking new to online business and marketing and they would be lost if there was not some ground breaking info for beginners.
It is way too early to be trashing this guy and what he has to offer.

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2Quick, it's clear why you chose your name.. I am not talking about that first video AT ALL now am I. I could say something about that, but that wouldn't be fair because I understand that he had to clear some stuff up for the total newbies.

What I said was:

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Half an hour ago I read the actual "method" that was released today.
What I am saying is that the "method" itself has not 1 new element that I did not know of.

So unless there is something really cool in the advanced stuff, I don't feel like I am getting my money's worth.

You are right though, that I should not bash the guy until I have seen the entire product. But I can share what I think of the content that was released until now, right? It doesn't make me hopeful that until now I have only wasted time and not learned 1 new thing.

If the "advanced super secret traffic method" is going to be banner ads, I will scream.

By the way he looks like a cool enough guy to me, it's nothing personal. I just bought the course to learn, and I haven't learned anything from it *yet*.
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I was going to ask the same thing. Not to judge this product, but I have bought several of these types of programs and are getting tired of "write a squeeze page" "build a website" etc with no technical how to's.

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How did you build the sites? Something easy or do you know about all that html stuff?
I just downloaded the premade squeeze page he made, opened it in the html editor he suggested, edited it, saved it, uploaded it. Done.
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Seen your PM; PM me your email, to answer you, it is difficult to work warriorforum from the Blackberry
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Advanced Video #1 is out, I will let you know about it once I've gone through it.. but first that coffee...

EDIT: So I've watched it. Definitely more advanced, and I can see how it could make someone a lot of money, but it requires you to go out and find someone to do it with.. so if you already have connections your gold..
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Bryce, regarding refunds and Kosta, I must say that I have asked for Many refunds the last few months or so, many.


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Thanks Jeff for the feedback. I have no problem claiming refunds either, and I can tell you that the reason you are still able to gain access to protected areas, is that in most cases, the gurus could not care less about follow up service or communicating with members, UNLESS it is to sell them the next piece of garbage.

So, no problem with claiming a refund at all, "If the product or service is NOT what it was presented to be"

To claim a refund because you can, and after all the information has been received, in my opinion, is unethical. If someone is that sure that the purchase is not for them early on, claim a refund then, and expect to NOT receive any more information.

What I understood the posters attitude to be, was that he was going to rip someone off, intentionally continuing to wait for all the material, and then simply ask for his money back. That sux!

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So unless there is something really cool in the advanced stuff, I don't feel like I am getting my money's worth.

If the "advanced super secret traffic method" is going to be banner ads, I will scream.

By the way he looks like a cool enough guy to me, it's nothing personal. I just bought the course to learn, and I haven't learned anything from it *yet*.
From what i heard in the pre-sales video, there was no promise of NEW material or methods. There was only a promise to present information in a way that "removed all the fluff, and the small things that usually stand in peoples way of following through"

If you pay for a university course up front, and then decide that after 3 weeks, you are not learning anything new, youcant get a refund! Why is this any different?

So far the information I heard has been "exactly" what has been delivered. And still there is more (advanced) material to come!

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I think the bcm is great all the information step by step in one place. The money is well worth it if you are a newbie so far and with the advanced modules it will be well worth it for seasoned marketers. I think the details Jordan provides are very good and you can contact the guy when you need help unlike some other gurus out there. This is no bs material which is hard to come by especially in a step by step guide such as this.

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I received a very high recommendation to work with Jordan a few months ago, but he did not pick me for his small group. Something about him doing a special project and only working with a few or maybe several. Maybe they were Beta testers for this project here.

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parmezan, Jordan hypes his product because he needs to, and frankly I don't care as long as I get value out of it.

Seriously, what I am looking for is a easy way to get cheap traffic without the hassle of quality score and SEO.

Here's The Pros And Cons of BCM

I like BCM because he explains the concept well. The methods are workable.

I didn't like BCM because it not as easy as he pitches them to be, especially if you are a total newbie. The methods aren't exactly ground-breaking and its more like an assorted collection of 3,4 traffic techniques rather than a complete step-by-step system like AffiloBlueprint or CommissionBlueprint. I guess the reason for this WSO was for him to test the market response for his product so that he can gauge how much people are willing to pay for it and what are chances of success after buy his course.

I was originally hoping he would reveal some cheaper, lesser talked about paid traffic source like CPV (which immediately comes to my mind when he say 'untapped traffic source') but he didn't. Not sure if he's planning to in his advanced modules but hopefully he does or shares some other traffic source that most people actually don't know much about.

So is BCM really worth the $199? Not sure until I implement it. Its funny that even though I know I will probably make money if he try all 4 methods he teaches, but I still hesitate. I guess thats why some people make tons of cash in IM and some people don't. Its related to attitude, and yes, how much time and money you can afford to test, test, test.

Guess I should be busy implementing the steps rather than writing lengthy forum posts. So good luck guys in whatever IM strategy in choose to follow, be it SEO or Paid Traffic.

Wish you the best of success.
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Hi everyone.
This is my first post, but I've been reading for quite a while. I too have been looking for a way to generate an extra income so at least my wife can quit her job and be a stay at home mom (like she wants to be.)

Ok, so my question is: Would you rather pay $200 up front, or $1000 if you didn't have to pay it up front? I would love to see a program that you can join for free, but maybe they take a percentage of the money you make until the amount is paid. So they will get their $1000, but only after you've made $10000. 10% seems like a fair amount. At least that would show that the "maker" of the program is extremely confident that his/her signups ARE going to make money. I have yet to see one of these, but it would be nice. I'd be more than willing to pay 5 times, or even 10 times as much as long as the money didn't have to come out my pocket. There are too many programs out there that will take your money and could care less whether or not you make any money. At this with my method, they would have to care or they wouldn't make any money. Ok, so it'll never happen, but it would still be nice.

It seems that the biggest roadblock with these higher cost programs is, of course, the startup cost. Then any additional costs after you pay the upfront fee. The lower price programs just seem to want to take your money and not give much in return. The lower price is more appealing, but seems that the odds of making an kind of real money goes down.

This thread started negative, got positive real quick, then split between positive and negative after the first webinar. I not one who will pay $200 for a "maybe." I had my hopes up when it went positive, and it would've been nice for it to stay that way, but it didn't. I'm still right where I started, but still looking.

To everyone who paid the money, I wish you the best of luck. I am actually still very hopeful that this program becomes a great success and everyone who was willing to pay for it, profits greatly. Please keep us posted.
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I was going to ask the same thing. Not to judge this product, but I have bought several of these types of programs and are getting tired of "write a squeeze page" "build a website" etc with no technical how to's.
There are tons of HTML tutorials available online... most of them free. There are tons of Wordpress tutorials too, if you want to go that route.
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It's amazing how there seems to be a never ending stream of new products, methods, tactics, tools. I've had to unplug myself from all the mailings and just decide to get to work.

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I'd liketo heard about Shery100; I'l like to know how she's doing and what she thinks now about the course...

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Total I've spent (besides the cost of the course):
- $9 domain name
- $19/mo for aweber-clone signup (unlimited # of subs unlike aweber)
- $30 deposit for PPC
= $58

Hmm I think that's all... I already had hosting, etc. I have high hopes for the youtube method... keeping my fingers crossed.
May I know what 'aweber clone' you are talking about? Does it have the similar deliverability as the real aweber?
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Does anyone know when the PPC method will be posted?

It's seems like there's no news from Jordan since he went on his honeymoon.

The Youtube method wasn't new.
The 2nd paid isn't new either.
If the 3rd method is basic PPC stuff then I don't quite see the point of keeping this.
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I am not in BCM nor do I intend to join, but I am sure of one thing, those who are willing to follow through, become consistent and keep tweeking will make money. I have seen several programmes which people say they don't work when actually they are the ones to blame.... they don't put in the neccessary effort. They lack consistent action.
That said, it will be sad if Jordan's materials don't have "new things" because that sales page was surely overhyped:-)

Good luck every one.

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