Mad Chick

Can report that i have now watched the video for BCM and was very impressed! Cant wait for the next one...the step by step video is better than any other training videos I've seen (I've seen alot), this guy gives you the baby steps - squeeze pages, opt-in, responders, etc. Cost me NZ$320, doubt I will be asking for a refund....has definitely helped me alot and I'm confident that now I will be able to finally make a start...yay!

Zane Shikara

after reading all your post I decided to buy the BCM and review it here, first of all I am not a newbie and I was looking for an advance alternative method of marketing, and I end up at Jordan Hall video page

I have few points I want you to know about BCM since there is only about 5 hours left before the offer close

I have watched his first webinar and I am impress with his teaching

1.nobody I know offer a product that is "behind the scene", he is basically making the product while teaching you , this is awsome most guru they just sell a product and never tell you what behind the scene , this is like having a private one to one coach

2.his method is perfect for newbie, I have paid lots of money to learn his method back year 2008 , no its not old and until today I have made lots of money using it .

3.because this is only one webinar I have been into it and since I have more experiences and I know 99% of information he presented in his video , I consider his material is for newbie especially his first video.

if you are a newbie and want one to one coach who will not full your head with many DVDs and booklets then go for it , its an action taker module course and not a student study course ,

you wont spend time study it you will be spending time applying it


finally , I may ask for a refund for one reason if I found after the next webinar that the information is something that I already know. for all newbie here and intermediate, I wish I have his course back in 2008 and not to spend thousands on a seminars and courses to learn what he taught in his first video.

here you go, you have 5 hours left $199 is nothing comparing what I spent before to get the same information.

I hope this review was helpful for you to make an educated decision

oh and this is not CPA or PPC so you will be fine

Zane Shikara

hello kiwi fellower nice to see another New Zealander at this Forum Iam from Auckland

Duncan Dewar

Will any of these programs work without a website? If so, what's the alternative?

Snapfish

I sincerely hope this works as I am considering parting with my hard earned £125.00!!. I want to do a bit more research but does the offer really expire in like 5 hours as i see this all the time on sales pages?

Zane Shikara

you lucky its in British pounds for me i have to pay $321, i recommend you to get it there is money back guarantee you wont lose anything

AnMa7

After reading all your comments, I decided to purchase BCM before it's too late about the discount. I told myself that if I'M not happy with it, I can ask for a refund.

I'll give you my review after watching the first video!

NollTech

Jordan,

What the heck is going on. I didn't get an invite to the 24th webinar. I logged in at your website this morning expecting the recorded version, but it's not there. Also, when am I going to get my action pack you promised (In the first video you said not to write anything down for everthing would be in the action pack). The first recorded webinar was ok, The speech cut in and out, your example software wasn't working like it should. I hope you didn't take the money and ran on your honeymoon.

Hoping to get what I ordered.

Kevin Noll
NollTech Software

NollTech

Jordan,

Sorry on my previous e-mail I thought the second webinar was last night, looks like it's tonight, my bad.

Sincerely,

Kevin Noll

Avdo

Hi everybody, I've just joined and this is my first post..I'm not a total newbie,I've earned some money online, but I consider my self a newbie though I'm in IM for about 9 months..well, I've purchase BCM yesterday and watched first recorded webinar, and I can tell that this really is promising..Like Jordan him self says, this is a really simple method, and most people are avoiding simplicity(I don't know why) and most people think if something is too simple, it just can't make them money..but I think otherwise..simplicity+work work work=dollars online.. and thats what BCM is.. I really think(and hope offcourse) that this will finaly make me some serious income..I'm waiting for a second webinar to start taking action
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Cassie18

I want to thank you again, Bryce, for steering me to the newbies forum. I sat up all last evening until 2 am reading the threads. I am up this morning and reading more and more. I was originally interested in the BCM (still am) but now am considering many other options from Jeremy and Don's bootcamps, Bryan Zimmerman and Chris Farrell etc. I am beginning to understand which direction to go in. Unfortunately, since I have such few posts, I cannot reply to some of these other people. Will persevere. I have been raising 4 sons alone for the last 4 years so I am not one to give up especially when I see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Eben

without giving out details, can someone please sum up what this 'method' is about? is it driving video traffic to cpa offers or what? just curious

John34

No,

Its about setting up squeeze page,building a list and then promoting affiliate products to them.

themarketingdirt

Is this untapped traffic source truly not PPC which involves spending a lot of money to compete against other richer affiliate who are currently dominating a niche? Is it truly cheap. If it does then it defeats the purpose of buying this course.

Does this method involve collecting leads and selling stuff to them over the phone? The thing I am worried about is English isn't my native language. If it involves creating a video or audio then it's no longer considered easy for me...

I read from one post that someone who in this program is gonna buy an article writing software for $127 to implement the plan, so isn't it learning towards article marketing or SEO? If so, then isn't that a long tedious painful process, and how can it be considered quick?

Is this not rehashed content?

Please shed some light without giving it away. I only have 1 hr left to decide but I think buying out of scarcity is really dumb

Eben

affiloblueprint?

John34

affiloblueprint is more detailed i guess.

justbeingtammy

I have been reading the posts and I would like to buy BCM before it goes higher than $199 today. However, someone posted info about Jason Fladlien and I was looking over what he offers. Does anyone, of course in enough time for me to get BCM today, have any information on Jason Fladlien or a comparison of the two?

Thanks!

themarketingdirt

The squeeze page concept is not new. But it became less popular (outside the IM niche) in the recent years especially after the Google Slap, because it became a lot harder to drive traffic directly to a squeeze page and often can result in losing money in the front end.

Most newbies can't afford that, nor outbid the veterans that's why they fail in PPC. They fail in SEO too because the number of competing pages has multiplied rapidly through the years. It's no longer easy to get ranked without spending a lot of time and money outsourcing, or on expensive automation tools.

So in order to make this system work again, you need tons of cheap traffic. The key is where and how? This is just my wild guess, but I could be wrong.

phanio

There is no quick and easy way to make money. It takes finding your niche (something you are passionate about), finding a way that it relates to customers, then working very, very hard at making it a reality. Nothing more and certainly nothing less.

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malcasid

That`s it? I don`t think I`ll be getting this if its just about list building.

themarketingdirt

I ended up buying the course... so scarcity does work.

I will watch the videos, implement the steps, and see if this is indeed the real deal

Gren Bingham

Hi Justbeingtammy,

Jason Fladlien is a young guy with some good ways to make money online. He works with another young guy called Robert Plank who is also doing pretty well. These are two people you can trust.

Another great guy to look at is Steven Wagenheim ... you'll find lots by and about him if you search right here in WF. His stuff is solid.

There is one way to make money, other than printing it, and that is to SELL something. The devil is in the details and actually getting it done.

Best regards, Gren.

Gren. Bingham, London, U.K.

justbeingtammy

Hello Gren,

Thanks so much for the info! It is much appreciated. This is a great site and I am glad that I found it!

Warm regards ~ Tammy

Jeremy Kelsall

For anyone that has bought this, can you answer me a question?

I've got a coupe of people in my coaching site asking me if they should get this. They are a little guy shy because of the price

Is the product for "beginners" meaning is it traffic to a squeeze page type stuff or does it get more advanced than that?

Would it be worth it for an intermediate marketer?

Please don't tell me exactly what it is as I don't want to expose the product to the world, but it would be nice if someone might be able to just answer those 2 questions. Thanks!

Jeremy

Mitch Miller

I haven't bought it yet but I had heard people talk about the product being drip fed at a future start date. I have the impression that those that are buying today will not receive the first webinar at the time of purchase. Is this true?

Jeremy Kelsall

People in this thread have said they saw the first webinar I think...I'm pretty sure it was the Monday that just past.

bryce

OMG! No, hehehe - I bet it is cold down there at the moment I am in Tauranga (Mt Maunganui) and its cold here even....

Great to know there are fellow kiwis here, maybe we should do lunch, lol!

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Avidpoet

Its perfect for a beginner and Im sure an intermediate marketer knows of the specific way he describes driving the traffic but alot of people dont want to deal with the particular method like myself at first but I thought about how powerful it is. Right now Google loves that particular method there's no way around it.

I tried explaining it to you with out stepping on a land mine lol I dont want to put too much info out there about it. Hopefully that helps. Its definitely a method where you cant drag your feet in the mud its going to take some work.

He also says there are more videos coming out about ramping it up a level for more results I think its a good buy and he does have a money back guarantee.

sherry100

Everyone it is hard to answer all of the questions about BCM because those of us who have it have only gone through the first webinar. There is more advanced material coming....

sherry100

I wouldn't say it this way....have you watched the first webinar? Instead I would say its about:

1) Finding a hungry market on the internet...outside of the IM-make money online niche

2) Finding a good converting affiliate product for them

3) Getting that product that they already want and are looking for right in front of them


So far there has been no mention of marketing to a list as of yet. The idea is to get a product to people who want it for fast sales.

I hope I'm not giving away too much.

Nile Vincent

Sherry, I bought and watched also...waiting for next material.

KostasP

I almost had it with this; I got access and there are things that for someone who works in real life marketing in a real work with a real salary and uses internet and platforms for the past 12 years would find enough to make him run away.

First of all: nothing impressive. Even if I was falling for the traffic method that would bring in the cash, honestly, I would not. Would you ever base your efforts on something that in a few weeks would be over saturated from all the spammers that will over use it and make the provider change it so that it does not work anymore to anyone’s benefit? Not to mention, that the videos will soon travel in black hat seo forum and be available for free to watch. As it always happens.

Second: what was ‘excellent’? because all that I have watched was someone trying to draw something that would eventually explain me how to make money fast to complement my income. Instead I got a video with a less than good sound, and talking about a method that it is not really a method. Well, it will soon stop being a method when the spammers get to it, at least for one of the three traffic methods that can be used.
Someone with very poor presentation skills was trying to show me how I can make money fast by using classic sites, that are used by tens of thousands of affiliate marketers, and classic methods for bringing traffic in. What I was expecting to see is someone who will show me:

- A step-by-step guide on how he makes money,
- Use cases shown from one end to another, with real samples of how he dealt with traffic, what the final deal was for bringing traffic in, how much it converted for this particular case, how long has been converting for…case studies, storyboards, you know what I mean
- The timeline to success; from point zero to the point that money comes in a recurring form, how much it comes along time, a ‘revenue’ watch on an excel sheet that will show me how the project that started on April, performs every single month
- The future: what plans can we make to capitalize on every hour spent on this method.

Instead, what I got was a small percentage of what I have already paid IN FULL to receive – and I have not. And I also have to be grateful because I bought it with 97% reduction in the initial price. So there we go, I will have to get everything in chunks, and wait for a week or more until I get what my money’s worth. For the initial price of $ 5,000 that is mentioned in the promo, forget it, don’t even mention it. Plus, I will have to filter it out every time on every video through endless blah blah. For the one hour and 46 minute video, I could easily zip it to 5 powerpoint slides for advanced users, and 10 or 12 slides for beginners.

Will I be asking for a refund? The answer is 'No' Because first, I want to view in full what I have paid for in advance; then, and only when I get to see the full product, I will ask for a refund.

So, enough of Marketing and real work for me for the next three weeks; I will be going on my summer holidays. Keep up your efforts, and enjoy your summer.

Gren Bingham

Hi Kostas,

I am picking up on your comment about videos. I am getting sick of too much talking without useful content. On and on they drone, and Jordan's initial sales video is a prime example of no material content and the same few messages repeated time after time. Fortunately it was only 24 mintues.

As far as "instructional" and "promotional" videos in general, I wonder if I really need to see the finger press the key, or hear the presenter choke on his beer, probably not. I may need to know what actions to take. You are so right, using a few well written slides, some annotated screen shots, and some thoughtful voiceover would cut the time wasting fluff and create a really useful item that can be referenced (if the slides were given as a pdf or slideshow with the vids.)

But the business question is ... could I charge $199 for a 50 slide show?

I was really, really put off by Jordan's sales video. I think he could have listed clearly and generically, but in some detail, the contents of his vids. People who need the info and training will buy, people who don't won't. I did not get enough meat in the sales vid to judge if I would get worthwhile info if I purchased. I felt that he was selling hope. I don't often rant but this sales vid, coupled with your perceptive post pushed me over the edge .... GRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Best regards, Gren.

Gren. Bingham, London, U.K.

bryce

I am not going to talk about or to the poster here, just the inane, boring, and tedious approach to someone elses product! In all my years online, I would have to say this is the most crap in one post I have ever read, and I cant believe someone else is actually agreeing with this rubbish!

The first thing I will make clear, even to the poster, is that the $5000 was never quoted as the PRICE for the product! The figure was used, but only in saying that this amount could easily be charged for the product. People should listen more to what they are presented with, instead of misunderstanding things and then quoting them as fact!

Secondly, the arrogance of this post in stating that he would wait for the duration of the program, and then claim a refund, yeah well we all know what that means. The poster (like so many others in this place) wants everything for nothing! If I were the seller of the product, and I read this post, I would be sending the money back to the buyer and telling him or her to get lost! Who needs this rubbish?

To all those people who have been a part of this thread and the product, and who are genuinely interested in the service and the upcoming program, I am sorry for this barrage of anger! For those who continue to jump on this or any other thread and bash the hell out of the product, and/or the people involved with the product, maybe you should head to Youtube. This is how they behave over there! Over there you would be celled "haters"

Oh and just a footnote to the poster of 1 post - "Enjoy your holiday"

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KostasP

I will stop making my luggage for a while to answer you, and put something on the board for the rest of the people while I am waiting to sail for Crete.

Let's not rush towards making this a complete waste of time; Jordan may well have more to show us in his advanced tutorial, so we should allow him the opportunity to conclude his cycle of seminars.

Another thing; I know Warrior forum for many years. Although I read frequently, I rarely take part into any discussion, because often people see things here in one dimension, and there is a lot of granularity taking place. The good old 'helicopter view' concept has been completely forgotten and everything is being sacrificed on chasing Google's butt trying to make a buck or two. My points-and a bit of advice from a 41 year old man who melted his ass working on a real marketing job and still does- can be summarized as follows:

Quit chasing google’s behind as a top priority. Make it a 20% of your efforts so that you don’t whip so much in the end. The ‘helicopter view’ says: Google is a money making machine, and is liable to shareholders now. If you know how companies work, it means that they have to bring the numbers every quarter for two reasons: for the shake of their employees and for the shake of their shareholders. They need to strengthen their stock value and bring revenues YoY (Year on Year). To do this, they have to commercialize and monetize their products more and more. And it is happening: try ranking for a popular term; you will soon discover that on the top and right you have sponsored links. Inside organic reasults, you have ‘shopping results’ and on ranks 1-4 you have Wikipedia; can you outrank Wikipedia? Difficult. So if Wikipedia ranks number 4-meaning you can only rank below that- and one of the results is the shopping results, and if the first result belongs to the rightful owner, how many places have you got left to compete for? 4? 3? Could not be bothered less. Even if you try and rank for a < 500K results term, you still have troubles. The biggest lie is that it is easy to rank with such competition. Because, you may end up having a case where none of the 500K pages are competing and Google picks up the most suitable; or you may have all 500K web pages competing which is a nightmare to outrank.

Look into the future; would you spend 300 hours of your life working on something that may be gone because of someone else’s decision? Two examples: One, Google results; if Google decides to change the style sheet of their results page in such a way, so that to increase revenues, what will they do? They can change the layout so that sponsored links display in a more favorable manner. Or they can break down the results page into further pages; this will give them more space to spread their ads. And what is this ‘More options’ link doing on the top of the results? See? In a couple of years for them to survive they will have to think of something that will make most of SEO a thing to remember. I actually found out a way to rank to number 1 in Google. All I have to do is press a button, and there it goes; in two weeks I am number 1 for terms with 150 million results (There is actually one WSO with one guy who has come close in to breaking the secret-but only 50%). But I then quit; no WSO, no ebooks, never said anything, never will say. Because I see in to the future and I want every minute of my efforts to last and yield money for a decade to say the least. And Google is not a solid ground for something like that. Two, Goarticles article pages. They get a swirl of people writing articles and submitting to them. The good thing with goarticles is that they allow affiliate links. So thousand of people write articles every day, with affiliate links on them. Helicopter view again: my friend Angela Edwards suggested to submit articles with affiliate links to goarticles and dominate specific niches, which is great. Try see this in reverse; goarticles people suddenly see a massive spike in article submissions, because of all these people who get Angela’s beautiful product, and started writing articles and doing SEO to reach the top. A meeting is taking place in goarticles and marketers decide that they now have enough content in order to monetize it further; so it is time to bring some more revenue by adding sponsored links on articles displayed. Nice; so the reader of my article will now have to choose between clicking on my affiliate link, or clicking on the sponsored links, whereas before only my aff. Link was there. So because of a prick in goarticles who gets two grand a month for a salary and who never asked me, I found myself making at least 50% less in affiliate commissions than before. Get my drift?

What is the right thing to do? For me, you have to own your sites (because it is your own space where it is affected only by your own decisions) and you have to pay for your traffic (because it is a calculated risk that always pays off, and you make money as everyone does if they know what to do; you can actually buy traffic for as little as 0,6 of a penny per click or 0,60 CPM-just stay away from search ads because they are soo expensive). And these two will last for a decade, they look good for formulating my strategy for extra income and I know that my efforts will not go to the dust bin for the next decade to say the least. And for that I am sure. If you want to melt your shoes on SEO, try mobile search. Google has 100 million searches every day in Europe alone, and it is virtually untapped. And it is very easy to hit the top.

Sorry for the mumbling; going back to the filling luggage thing. I really look forward to going on holidays. You can check my holiday house by googling 'real estate crete' it is reasult number 5, go where it says 'villa rentals'.

Take care; and quit chasing Google’s …you know what. It will be good for you.

bryce

As I said earlier, have a nice holiday!

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Avidpoet

Enjoy your Vacation drink lots and lots of coffee rest and relax lol.

LouFranklin

Hi there folks.
I'm so glad that KostasP posted his thoughts on the Bullet Cash Method here.
In my opinion, his post was the first truly objective one here about this product.
I didn't sense 1 ounce of anger in either of his posts at all.
What I got was an objective opinion, touching on the real truths of the Bullet Cash Method so far.
His opinion just happened to be fairly accurate, I feel, and was definitely free from being obscured by one's hope for a product based on hype-based marketing.
What I don't like is Bryce's apparent position that he can tell others to get out of here because their view is contrarian, or in a different voice, to his, which happens to be subjectively "Pro Product".
Thank you.

Lou

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John34

I completely agree with KostasP, its a best review of BCM on this thread.

33zpix

Hi Folks! Glad I discovered this forum, a lot of thoughtful reasoning and a bit of heat. Well, I thought KostasP posted some very interesting views to consider- did not seem angry but critical of some of JH's tactics.
I notice a lot of posts about JH's sales video said they were put on guard by the lack of information needed to make an educated choice....that lack of information sets up distrust- was this JH's intent? does he think that more detail would diminish his conversions? does he only want gamblers- I went for it- not comfortable, not really having $200 to spare this summer, so something had to go on hold- so I was impressed that the message worked on a level that my rational mind by itself was going osh*t! ...JH willing to put address and email that no other IMguru I have considered ever did ---and this forum --gave me comfort to invest time and $. Will be interesting to see if JH learns anything from comments in this forum when he creates his next sales vid. Anyway- what he teaches may not hit everyone's need but if there is enough value for many, then his following will help multiply his next effort. Would be nice to see a more intelligent sales approach work better than the SOS I see on the usual squeeze pages - some have tried intelligence and say that SOS ends up being used because sadly it works so much better...I hope for that to change and hope being upfront real person with integrity and direct contact will become a successful way to build a valuable relationship.

thanks to all of you who take the time to post to help us all,
davidP

sherry100

Hello everyone,

Jordan just posted the step by step action plan to the members area.

So you won't be seeing me back here on the thread to comment for awhile.

Some people are indecisive and over analytical and critical.

Others just get to work. Which ones do you think make the money?

As for me....I'm going to work.

LouFranklin

Hi there Sherry.
Some people can also get to work while still being analytical and decisive because gettign to work without doing either will likely turn in to a waste of time.
Thank you.

Lou

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Jeremy Kelsall

Keith,

Let me get this right....

You are pimping a product and teaching people to do sales videos that don't tell anyone what they are getting?

parmezan

Hi all,

I want to give my opinion about this product. I bought it because of the promises that were made in the sales vid. Although there was no "real" info, the claims were sounding reasonable and not too far fetched. I thought that with my level of knowledge, I could make a good system (like this seemed to be), work for me.

Let me start out with giving some background information about myself. Most people here like to position themselves as "newbie" or "advanced" or whatnot.. But that doesnt tell me anything.

I started out in IM a year ago, and I am making around a 1000 bucks a month with it. Not too bad, but still looking for additional income streams and learning to get better. That's all there is to know, right? How long are you doing this, and how much are you making.

Anyway, about the product: Half an hour ago I read the actual "method" that was released today. This is really NOTHING new. I am currently learning way, WAY more advanced techniques for this exact same "method" from other sources.

Maybe if someone is a newbie (as in: not making a dime, I don't care how many books you bought, you are a newbie if you don't make money) Then this could be valuable. But for me it is most definitely not. I am serious about my learning, and I was hoping to pick up some great NEW strategy here. Not a new guy telling me once again what I have heard being explained way better before, way more advanced and in much greater detail.

So, will I go for the refund..?

Well he has still claims about the advanced traffic generation methods that are in the "advanced" module that is still to come. So I should cut him some slack.. But to be honest, he didn't make good on his claims until now, and I am running out of "slack" fast.

If the traffic generation methods hold a few real "gems" then this thing could very well be worth my time and money. But with what I have seen until now I find it hard to believe.

If it turns out that there is something worthwhile in this course I will definitely be back to say I was wrong. But for now I feel like I've been had, pretty bad.

Once again by the way, it might be a usable newbie course. But then SELL it as a newbie course. Not as some ground breaking new inventive money making system, because this is NOT any of that.

bryce

Apologies to Lou and anybody else who may have been offended by my post of yesterday. I was expressing how I felt, and in regard to "telling someone to get out of here" - as I said, that is what "I would do" if a customer had this much grief about a product I was selling. Kosta's post clearly states that he intends to get all of the information and then claim a refund, that is unethical and I dont agree with it.

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2Quick

parmezan, what part of his speech did you not understand? He said the first video was very basic and needs to be, because some people are brand spanking new to online business and marketing and they would be lost if there was not some ground breaking info for beginners.
It is way too early to be trashing this guy and what he has to offer.

Jeff

David.M

I've just put together one site and used the youtube traffic technique he discussed in the first video. I'll let you guys know how it goes :-). I actually created two sites, for two products, but haven't had the time to implement the traffic for that one yet. Tomorrow. Hopefully this will work as I expect it to.

Edit: I bet half the people bitching about the product don't make a penny from affiliate marketing. The point of his product, is to simplify it and to get people to take action and make actual money.. because it's easy to apply. He's also going to be going into more advanced topics. Can't wait to see them.. and results from the things he's taught so far that I've implemented.

jenness

Just because Kosta's "review" had no anger in it doesn't make it any more accurate or objective. People, being human, will always be slanted in one way or another. I am sure the info in the first part video is not totally new to everyone, but to say it is useless is a pretty big claim. He gives some good ideas on how to make it more effective, or to get things going faster.

Anyway, like David M. I've put up one site and am trying to draw youtube traffic to it. I got an awesome title for it but I wonder why it doesn't show up in search results even when I pack it with my keywords? I'm hoping it just takes a bit of time. And I've started on some ppc on it as well though I think the youtube method will be more effective...

Altogether it has taken a bunch of work. It was not easy and it took probably over 10 hours (but most of that was because I was doing things for the first time and wasted time doing inefficient things). In the future I suspect it should take me 3-5 hours per site if I only do it the youtube way.

Total I've spent (besides the cost of the course):
- $9 domain name
- $19/mo for aweber-clone signup (unlimited # of subs unlike aweber)
- $30 deposit for PPC
= $58

Hmm I think that's all... I already had hosting, etc. I have high hopes for the youtube method... keeping my fingers crossed.

2Quick

Bryce, regarding refunds and Kosta, I must say that I have asked for Many refunds the last few months or so, many.

And every time I had thoughts and feelings of guilt, because I am a good man, trust and believe in what people say straight up.......but, it is obviously True to me and maybe many others, that these Sales pages or Capture pages very rarely live up to the hype.

I have emailed several of these entreprenuers and told them they need to go back and read their own sales page over again. Because the material is way off course from what they were claiming.

For instance, all these super Guru's and their Clickbank Codes and so forth, fail to mention that your success all comes down to how well you can Track, Adjust, Tweak, your keywords, ad copy, landing pages, keyword bids and so forth.

So there is always too much room for failure. But.....they do not mention this in the sales piece. They come across as if this is secret info that if anyone follows it, they can succeed and rake in thousands monthly and sometimes daily.

So, for that reason I do not feel bad or guilty at all about refunds, because you never really know what you have gotten for your money, until you have taken a look at it.

sometimes what they propose just does not feel good to you or comfortable, like in the old days when you had to call people on the phone. They made it sound like, these people have all shown an interest and this is a piece of cake getting money out of them. Bull****!

This is Not unethical whatsoever, based on past experience!

This will make some people pissed off, but when I have asked for some of these refunds, I continued to be allowed into the members areas and still got downloads, updates and access to everything that the othes got.

For instance, Arbitrage Conspiracy was a joke to me and I asked for a refund but was denied. But....they had a two payment plane or was it three, don't remember, hmmmm

Anyway, I made sure they could not charge me for the second payment, but to this day I can still log into the members area and review everything there that the other current members have access to.

Is this a mistake or do these people make so much money off of us, that they just don't care what happens after they have rounded up hundreds of thousands or in the case of AC, Millions?

AC guys allowed in 3,000 people at $2,100. Do the math!

Have a good one friends,

Jeff

David.M

You have to give youtube a few days, also don't forget to do the video responses, I submitted a lot and they are just getting accepted.

Haven't tried the PPC method, since that video isn't out yet.

Let me know how it goes for you, I will as well.