Vas Blagodarskiy WP Ninja Popup - Arrr! More Piracy

Same styles Vas.

Arscode said -

"We are not a partners of this gut. This website is fraud and soon will be closed.

He is a cheater - the same thing he did with Visual Composer. He is also not fair with affiliates. we reported it to Envato and JV and PayPal."

Wow. Just wow.

This seems to be his only business model and that's scary. He buys Extended Licenses from successful CodeCanyon products (that do not include resell rights) and sells them as his own.

Then he hides behind GPL despite the fact Envato clearly explains it's a split-license GPL. One half of the GPL allows anyone to do anything (PHP/HTML)....the other half (CSS/Images) does not and is copyrighted by the owner. In case you still don't believe me, here's the official answer from WordPress.

Envato won't be happy with this one. I hope Vas saves the earnings of the plugin for his legal fund. Envato isn't exactly broke. (In the 2013 Envato Wrap Up, Collis Ta'eed indicated that Envato has paid out a total of US$140 million to its community of authors, affiliates, freelancers and instructors). He's put Envato in a position where they have to protect their reputation and freelancers.

I especially feel bad for the buyers. They'll be redirected towards the original CodeCanyon authors for support. But those authors won't support the product because it was sold by an unauthorized 3rd party. So buyers will be stuck having to buy the product again to receive help.

Muy loco. http://i.imgur.com/8nufzCX.jpg

Vas is located in the US.

Surely there must be some kind of Governmental fraud unit he should be reported to?

Hi,

looks like another Vas`s fraud - here is discussion with Ninja Popups author (ARScode):

https://www.facebook.com/ebrianrose/...72352219483940

Regards

JVZoo don't appear to care about this any more.

In which case, Envato and the WF will be raped silly as everyone tries it on.

WTF

this is nuts, I just got in here and found out about this whole mess about the VICOM plugin.

Man, I had no idea about this and even purchased the PLR upsell, over 120 bucks for both.

Now JVZoo kicked out ViCom and I'm slapped in my face.

How in the heck am I supposed to get a refund for this as I have small hopes that Vas honor any of the refund requests?

Should I go to JVZoo?

I'm seriously pissed.

G.

P.S. I requested a refund to VAS, after I purchased this at the 18th this month. JVZoo gives a s..t about us clients and don't offer any support. So either the seller honors his guarantee or we are toast.

The money is most definitely still in JVZoo's hands so why they don't take part of the scammed and help to resolve this, after all they where the platform we purchased this at.

Start to hate this niche.

Meh...E. Brian Rose's response from JVZoo didn't really surprise me. He wrote a book about selling premium WordPress themes that use GPL. In fact, here's his public response on the topic from that thread.

He clearly knows GPL licensing intimately to release such a controversial book. Thing is, he also verifies in the response above that outside libraries, images and CSS are not part of that licensing if the licensee originally agreed to a split-license. So why is JVZoo not shutting down the product if they know the images and videos are being copied?

Because JVZoo is a neutral payment platform...not a legal authority. It's the CodeCanyon author's responsibility to issue a proper DMCA notice to JVZoo and Vas' host. If he doesn't, JVZoo will continue selling until it's legally challenged. Once challenged, I'm certain JVZoo will drop it like a hot potato. Until then, it's Vas' word against the authors.

In case the CodeCanyon author is wondering what an official DMCA letter looks like...there's a link to one (wink, wink) below.

An author can send DMCA notices to JVZoo and Vas' website host.
If Vas' host doesn't comply, you can send it to the host's datacenter.
If the host's datacenter doesn't respond, you can get the upstream providers involved. They always respond. And THAT'S when things get ugly. Getting emails from Cogent and Level 3 is pretty scary for a host.

Good luck to all parties involved. I wasn't really expecting JVZoo to get involved the first time or this time.

How to Remove Your Stolen Products from Hacker, Warez and Download Sites...

Note: I'm not an attorney, this is not legal advice, do it at your own risk.

... the thing is, according to arscode, the programmer of the original wp ninja plugin, it's a split license, not solely GPL and there are definitely no resell rights as he is doing as the split license clearly states.

I contacted arscode and he is aware of the theft of his plugin by Vas and has contacted Envato.

What's really ironic is that Vas states on his sales email and page that he is donating $1 per sale to the Free Software Foundation Front Page — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software ... a product that is not GPL exclusively and was ripped off and is being resold by the alleged thief for his own profit. So, is that what the Free Software Foundation is about?

Does this mean we don't need any kind of special license to resell JVZoo products and that any of us can just repackage and sell anything now, or am I misunderstanding?

I said much the same thing in Brian's Facebook thread Paulo70.

Strangely, my comment mysteriously disappeared......

The above quote is correct. Here is the latest...

Yesterday morning, the management of JVZoo was inundated with messages and emails asking us to remove a specific product from the marketplace. We temporarily disabled the product and sent a message to the vendor. The vendor responded and explained that he had created a derivative product based on three WordPress plugins. He provided the licensing agreements that the original plugins were derived from and the licences he presented were all the GPL. We were not presented with any other licenses or documents indicating that the entire content of the software was not licensed under the GPL. As you know, the GPL does allow derivative products to be created from the original.

At this point, none of the complaints we had received were from anyone claiming to be the authors of the original plugins. All complaints were from people that did not have a legal claim in the matter. I made a public post on FaceBook stating that we could not take action until a properly formatted DMCA Takedown notice or court order was received. A person claiming to be the original author did post a comment on my FaceBook page and he was told that no action could be taken until we received a properly formatted DMCA Takedown Notice. Today, we received that DMCA Takedown Notice and the product in question was immedietly taken down from the marketplace.

The actions we took were in accordance with the law. The law prescribes a method that is designed to protect everybody. A properly formatted DMCA Takedown notice requires the complainant swear under the penalty of perjury that their accusation is true. If we were to remove products from the marketplace without proper takedown notices or court orders, we would subject ourselves to legal action. This is the exact same burden faced by eBay, ClickBank, Warrior Plus, and the new Warrior Payments. Hypothetically, a group of people could band together and raise complaints about a competitor in an effort to clear the way for their products. If the service provider acts on this outcry and the accusations turn out to be false, the service provider has subjected themselves to possible litigation by the victim. This is why the DMCA Takedown Notice was created by Congress. If the steps are followed, it absolves the service providor from legal action taken by the accused.

Corporations do not have the luxury of deciding which laws to follow based on which ones they think are fair and which ones they think are reprehensible. There is a lot at stake, so the best course of action is to follow the law. It is obvious that a lot of folks would have rather us not follow the law and go with gut feelings or simply take the word of folks that emailed us. To me, it seems a bit ironic to ask us to break rules in order to punish another that has broken rules, not to mention subject us to possible legal action.

The bottom line is that once served with a properly formatted DMCA Takedown Notice, we removed the product from the marketplace. We will continue to act upon all Takedown Notices in accordance with the law, just as all of our fellow affiliate networks do.

That's it, PP dispute claim issued.

Will see if I can get my money back in this case, someone has to be responsible here.

G.

Hello EBR,

So when you receive a DMCA takedown notice for a product that does not have the rights to be sold through your platform... what happens to all the payments you collected for that said product?

Are they sent to the product owner?

Do you keep all the payments?

Are they returned to the original purchaser?

Please let us know...

Thank You,

EricWPM

To EBR and Brett,

Thank you for your comments and follow up. I learned something new today and appreciate both of you taking time to reply. It's always good to learn and be properly informed in these matters!

EricWPM

I am happy to communicate that I could resolve my case (refund request) due to the freely offered support from EBR, which refunded to me the paid amount a few minutes ago (even a few bucks more than I ask for).

Just to stay clear, I did not claimed anything to EBR or JVZoo, I was pissed but I knew that he isn't responsible for this.

I filled a PP dispute to the vendor but Brian was so nice and took place and refunded me the amount, dealing now directly with the vendor to receive it back. In other words, he assumed the risk to deal with the vendor and maybe get noting back.

This is a very rare business practice and shows Brian's commitment to run JVZoo in the best possible interests for his clients and buyers. I hope that such a decision will have a positive impact on his already great reputation in this and other communities.

I can only offer him my loyalty for future purchases and if I launch a product myself, I know which processor I will use.

Again, many thanks to you Brian

G.

I just like to add a link to Code Canyons FAQ about Licensing, should left no doubts that Vas did not have proper license to do what he did, there are no developer licenses offered at Code Canyon.

License FAQ | CodeCanyon

G.

I bought this thinking that the creators of the original plugin were running a promotion in support of the FSF. Already requested a refund but have not heard anything back. I don't think I will see my money again.

Paypal refunded within 3 hours guys. I got the money back and bought from arscode instead. Problem solved.