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Old 06-27-2009, 07:51 PM   #1
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I put a lot of thought into my articles. It is hard for me to imagine a service that can make dozens of variations without really messing up my content. Do these services really create variations effectively?
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Old 06-28-2009, 03:07 PM   #2
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I put a lot of thought into my articles. It is hard for me to imagine a service that can make dozens of variations without really messing up my content. Do these services really create variations effectively?
I would have to say of the ones I've seen they all produce a very poor quality article.

I've also noticed the more YOU have to do in preparing the article to be 'spun' the better it usually turns out. The less you do, the worse the results, often producing an article that is unreadable and makes no sense.

Alot of the problem is they are mostly synonym finders and just because a word is a synonym for another word does not mean it will work in the sentence. Most spinners do not take "context" into account, unfortunately.
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I use an article spinning software myself. I still have to do some manual spinning on the articles. It's not totally automatic. And before I hit publish, I read the whole spun article again just to make sure that it's coherent.
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I've tried article spinning and it just doesn't do it for me, the quality is just not up to par, while other swear by it including some gurus.
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Power Article Rewriter and MyArticleNewtwork - Video

This video shows how to use an article spinner, and that some negative comments above are rather baseless.
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Old 06-28-2009, 03:44 PM   #6
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I think it depends on what you want to spinyour articles FOR. It is good in some situations but not good in others.

Keep your white hat on and you'll be fine.

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Power Article Rewriter and MyArticleNewtwork - Video

This video shows how to use an article spinner, and that some negative comments above are rather baseless.
I'm using myarticlenetwork. I'm happy with the software. I don't know about the others who think it's otherwise.
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I like PAR, its very good for creating 10-20 almost unique articles in short time. Basically you give me one hour on PAR and I can have 10-20 articles that are different enough to rank for the same keywords.

OR you can use it as I do, to make similar articles with different keywords and resource boxes. Great way to get backlinks. Of course the CTR will suffer somewhat as you will never get as good results as writing them all.

I know what I'm doing though and put time and effort into it.

I even considered offering this kind of spinning service, but I am not sure how much people are willing to pay for say 50 articles with 50-75% uniqueness.
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Since you asked this question I do not think I am spamming by saying that I have put together a piece of software that makes spinning articles easy, it remembers your settings and choices and it is fully controllable by you. A typical 500 word article can be spun into any number of articles you wish with my new software and it will do it in seconds. It is not just a thesaurus software program but so much more. It spins articles in ways that make it truly unique. I will also have tutorials available to help you learn how to best use the software. I have done that because I figure what good is having software if you do not know how to use it. I make it really easy to use.

It should be ready for final release in a week or so as I am now preparing the website to host the marketing information on and making final adjustments to the training videos. Watch my signature for the link when it goes live.

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Please note that while I am discussing a product of my own design, I am doing so to give relevant information to the OP. Please note that I am not discussing pricing or anything like that other than to say that my signature will show the link when it goes active. I am not asking anyone here and now to try the software nor am I attempting to drive sales since the product is not ready for marketing.
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It should be ready for final release in a week or so as I am now preparing the website to host the marketing information on and making final adjustments to the training videos. Watch my signature for the link when it goes live.
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:11 AM   #11
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I am not affiliated with PAR in any way and I consider it a very usefull tool for article marketers and SEO'ers. Saves you tons of time and money in rewriting.

I would even say, that if you are talented then there may be a market for spinning services as a writer, but how much would people pay for such a service?
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surely not!!!
Geez...you'd think this was a marketing forum

Unless the rules have changed, promoting a product or service related to the OP or ensuing discussion has always been allowed as long as the thread itself was not started by the marketer promoting it.

The protocol was to offer a non-affiliate link as well as an affiliate link and anyone who had a related product was welcome to post one. While some members with competing products may not like it, they do NOT create the rules - Allen does.

I don't know what's up with this nazi-like member moderation (clearly not everyone is doing it) but it's getting old fast.
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I think that article spinning, even with best spinners such as Power Article Rewriter, is realistic if you aim to create up to 20 articles from the original one.

Everything above that number can only produce bad quality.
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Quality is the operative word here and I've tried one or two article spinners that were passable for things like posting in multiple article directories that have a low quality pass rate.

They can be used in places you don't get any real people visit, such as low quality blogs used for purposes other than, well, blogging! But if you want a real person to read the article, then you're going to have to do it by hand if you want it to make sense.

Sites like jetsubmitter can spin you 50 articles from an original and its free to use. The hard part is creating all the spin notation and word/phrase alternatives sufficient to produce 50 articles that are sufficiently unique to stay below Google's duplicate content radar. But unless you really go to town and spend a few hours working on an article, you're going to end up with 50 badly written ones that are only good for anything not white hat. Which you shouldn't be doing anyway, of course!
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Quality is the operative word here and I've tried one or two article spinners that were passable for things like posting in multiple article directories that have a low quality pass rate.

They can be used in places you don't get any real people visit, such as low quality blogs used for purposes other than, well, blogging! But if you want a real person to read the article, then you're going to have to do it by hand if you want it to make sense.

Sites like jetsubmitter can spin you 50 articles from an original and its free to use. The hard part is creating all the spin notation and word/phrase alternatives sufficient to produce 50 articles that are sufficiently unique to stay below Google's duplicate content radar. But unless you really go to town and spend a few hours working on an article, you're going to end up with 50 badly written ones that are only good for anything not white hat. Which you shouldn't be doing anyway, of course!
True, but if you use some kind of 'linkwheel' as strategy, then I have found them very useful as you can easily make 10-20 almost unique articles that are stuffed with related keywords.
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Spinning articles can be productive if you put the time and effort into choosing the right phrasing for the spin. I have found any more than 10-15 articles is a waste. There is only so much you should neglect from the original.
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Geez...you'd think this was a marketing forum

Unless the rules have changed, promoting a product or service related to the OP or ensuing discussion has always been allowed as long as the thread itself was not started by the marketer promoting it.

The protocol was to offer a non-affiliate link as well as an affiliate link and anyone who had a related product was welcome to post one. While some members with competing products may not like it, they do NOT create the rules - Allen does.

I don't know what's up with this nazi-like member moderation (clearly not everyone is doing it) but it's getting old fast.
Just wondering - what if you do not have an affiliate link for the product being discussed?

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Geez...you'd think this was a marketing forum

Unless the rules have changed, promoting a product or service related to the OP or ensuing discussion has always been allowed as long as the thread itself was not started by the marketer promoting it.

The protocol was to offer a non-affiliate link as well as an affiliate link and anyone who had a related product was welcome to post one. While some members with competing products may not like it, they do NOT create the rules - Allen does.

I don't know what's up with this nazi-like member moderation (clearly not everyone is doing it) but it's getting old fast.
thanks for making that clear Mikey. As you say, the nazis seem to have been getting more and more strident recently, in some kind of sudeten-land march south to preserve the 'purity' of the forum.

It's also getting a little disturbing how many purveyors of 'similar' products / services tend to form little cliques to back each other up and shout down those nasty folk who aren't "part of their gang". Fascinating, really. Although I for one would prefer the forum to be moderated as in the old days.
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Unless the rules have changed, promoting a product or service related to the OP or ensuing discussion has always been allowed as long as the thread itself was not started by the marketer promoting it.

The protocol was to offer a non-affiliate link as well as an affiliate link and anyone who had a related product was welcome to post one. While some members with competing products may not like it, they do NOT create the rules - Allen does.

I don't know what's up with this nazi-like member moderation (clearly not everyone is doing it) but it's getting old fast. http://www.warriorforum.com/../images/smilies/eek.gif
It's awful funny how I get slammed in a thread for not promoting my product but actually posting valued information. Yet I was slammed and all but accused of bumping the old "spinner" thread and accused of pushing my product when infact I did not..

So I guess your rules only work for certain people in a group ...

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If it's your own product, then post your own link. If it's a product you're not promoting but know of/have used - post that. The idea was that we're here to help each other with information more so than to profit off every post.
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In that case, I can recommend my new service: Unique PLR Article Salesletter - Unique PLR Article
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In that case, I can recommend my new service: Unique PLR Article Salesletter - Unique PLR Article
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Yeah I see another Warrior that was slammed recently in a thread for pointing to his WSO which the rules allow...

Careful Joseph if you not apart of that certain group it may come back to haunt you for posting that link...

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I'm finding that Content Mania really helps me with my rewrites as I can quickly see how I'm doing, modify on the fly (hey that rhymed) and even have access to a dictionary. Its not a spinner but instead keeps you abreast of whether or not your rewrite is unique enough.
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I don't have a problem with a little self promotion if your product really does fit in with the OP, but many times it gets a bit ridiculous. For one thing, this subject comes up almost every single day. If not article spinning, then something else about articles...

Then, a few people come into the thread and promote their products while either slamming each other's products, or saying their products trumps them all thinking they are "adding value".

I would just hate to see this entire forum turn into a huge pitching fest.
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I use Wordflood and it's been pretty good so far. BTW, I tried alot of the spinners and none of them worked well really, at least not for long term.
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I don't have a problem with a little self promotion if your product really does fit in with the OP, but many times it gets a bit ridiculous. For one thing, this subject comes up almost every single day. If not article spinning, then something else about articles...

Then, a few people come into the thread and promote their products while either slamming each other's products, or saying their products trumps them all thinking they are "adding value".

I would just hate to see this entire forum turn into a huge pitching fest.
I agree with you Michael. That is one reason why I did not try to compare my software to anyone else's here on the forum. That way I am not knocking theirs to "promote" mine. I am simply saying that I have a product that does what the OP is asking about. I don't give links or anything else and quite frankly, I was surprised when I was not given an infraction for it but then again, I really did not "advertise" it since I never even mentioned the products name.

I hope that I did not offend you with my posting since my sole objective was to offer something useful to the thread. If I did then consider this my most deep felt and humble apology, sir.
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It depends on what you want to achieve. If you want to have relationship with the 'real human', then spinning software doesn't work (unless you spend time to revise the result). But if you just want to create unique content for SE perspective, then it works.
Nothing can be compared with 'real human' touch.
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The formula is simple:

QUALITY articles = People read it from top to bottom = converting resource box = click the link = redirect to sales page = converting copywriting = Ka ching

BAD articles = People read few lines = Dumb **s

So as to say article spinner WILL disturb the quality flow of the original article, making it... you know what i meant.

Instead of going for mass unique distribution to get traffic, why don't you just go for one search engine optimized, quality and unique article, promote it and make money from it?
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i've had some of the worst results with article spinner, i prefer powwer article rewriter better, coz some how whenever i have used a spinner, the results have been very bad. not a single of my article got approved.
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Remember "CONTENT IS KING" the one with the best content will be get word of mouth and this is no1 traffic source.
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Hi Joseph
I don't know about direct linking of your product in your post but anyhow you have posted it,Iam commenting on it.50 plr articles with spinnable versions for $47 seems to be on higher side.Some of them are offering same services for same amount but for 250 articles.I don't mention it here.

Regarding Spinning,I have checked everywhere and downloaded evry piece of sh**.But I found My article Network spinner(thro their website),Magic article rewriter and Power Article writer are the best software at this moment.Iam personally using Both the MAN and MAR.With MAR,You can reach 100% in one hr time for 500 article word.
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Hi, I have been ghostwriting for last two years. I have found article spinning software useless. If you are a creative writer,then it becomes too much technical to enjoy process of article writing. My customers always tell me that no software can ever beat human creativity. Of course I do know that evrybody does not need well researched quality content. There is market for spinned articles also.
The question should have been " Does article spinning software work for creating quality unique content?" The answer will be obiviously, NO. If the question is " Is there demand for spinned articles?" , the answer obviously is yes.

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