ezeey

All you have to do is work at it and never give up, it can get very frustrating and disappointing at times.

Azlan.MY

My advice - focus just on one traffic strategy only. Until you see the cash comes in. For start, focus on search engine traffic alone since the conversion is the best.

NickR06

Out of all the WSO's Jeremy Kelsalls bootcamps have been my faourites. He really does teach you to make money. Always very willing to answer queries via his forum.

Good luck

Nick

jacksonlin

One name.

Mark Ling from Affilorama.

I LOVE THIS GUY!

He is the real deal... If you don't believe me, just search for "affiloblueprint" or "affilorama".

He is one of the few internet marketers who is ethical and doesn't leave you by yourself once you pay him!

J

AnneE

Richard, I just noticed your avatar. Any interest in walking to school together! Anyway, thanks for promoting Kevin's thread, it has some good advice and a balanced, unjaded view.

Anne

PowerDad

As a newbie myself, thanks for all of the advice.

sergi

I think that the "magic" pill does not exist unless you CREATE it.
What works for some "guru" may not work for you. And what works for you may not work for anybody else.

It's wise to follow your intuition, and learn from your mistakes.

BobbyH

Mr. Starr,
I feel your pain. It's hard to seperate the good from the not-so-good. And to read the propaganda, you would think it would be easy.

As you well know, these marketers leave some tiny bit of information out. And it's not until you have wasted money and countless number of hours eventually realizing that the program's not for you.

That's why I've started a site called theimdetective.com. It's a free Insider newsletter that reveals what these program do and don't do.

Check it out.

Bob

sarahberra

Check out wealthy Affiliate. Email me if you have questions and I will help you.

vivientan

I've just got started on internet marketing a couple of months ago and is also going through the same prediacament. Info overload from too many offers and so called "gurus"!

I've also spent tons of money buying various ebooks, systems etc. I agree strongly with some of the above posts on how we should focus and just concentrate on 1 system at a time as we really need time to learn and take action to see results. There's no such things as achieving overnite success.

I've been looking at John Thornhill's system since I started and found his to be simple and easy to follow. His 90 day powerseller program was the first info pdt I ever bought. There are step by step instruction videos, suitable for a beginner. However, a considerable amt of time and effort is needed to execute the program.

Recently, I've also bought John's new pdt - Profit From PLR. This is a home study video course which tells us exactly how we could make money using PLR pdts and covers everything from niche research, to creating pdts using PLR, writing of sales page, setting up an affiliate program, listing in clickbank and so on. Simple enough to follow for a newbie.

Besides John, some internet marketers I feel are worth following include:
- Mike Filsaime
- Anik Singhal
- Lee Mcintyre
- Mark Ling
- Russell Brunson

Right now, I'm doing my niche research and hope to come up with my own pdt in a month's time. Make do or die, I keep reminding myself that I have to stay focused this time!

Hope that I will have good news to share with u folks soon!

bozz723

It really all depends on how much of a budget you have. If you have no budget I would stay away from anything PPC and focus on free money making methods only. You can make as much money, or more money utilizing free methods while staying away from ppc.


Whatever you do just focus on one tactic at a time, and you will see results.

paul_simister

From what I have seen most products promoted range from good to excellent.

The problem is fighting the urge to keep chasing after the next product launch and never implementing what you have.

Try to find a balance between earning and learning of I would say 4:1.

There is always more stuff to learn but take action and you will see for yourself what works.

Personally I really like the Nitro Blueprint program if you want to develop your own products and promote them on the Internet as a nice balance between quality and cost.

piercelangdon

I am following this thread to know more about honest affiliate sites.

kbs

All depends on what you want to do. I would steer clear of dropshipping on Ebay as you have to deal w/ physical products and people being happy w/ what they get. PPC is good but beware of the Google Slap and there are so many courses to pick from that it makes your head spin. Article Marketing looks like it has been the staple for a few years and that's the way I think I'm headed but you'll need software in order to succeed.

BobbyH

Hi,
I feel your pain. I tried so many of these products I can't tell you how much I've spend. So I started my own review where I give unbias reviews.


Bob

Ken Fry

For what it is worth, I have a membership site with members who are marketing all kinds of systems and products. The members I see that are really making money are doing Off Line Marketing. No I do not have an Off Line product etc... It is just my observation from watching 200+ members.

Just my 2 cents.

Ken

Jeremy Kelsall

The best thing you can trust, is your GUT.

You are going to get a ton of recommendations from people, but at the end of the day different people react differently to different approaches...Just like some peoples definition of trustworthy is different than the next guys, right?

I would find as much free info as you can on your desired business model and then narrow down whose teaching style best suits the way you learn and than latch onto that person.

Jeremy

Elliott

I would second the advice to check the WSO forum for Bootcamps. Use the "Search this forum" button in the WSO forum, search for "bootcamp".

Jeremy has several and all of his have an excellent reputation. There are others also. Read the offers, find one that appeals to you, then get it and DO IT. Stick to it all the way through, don't jump to something else.

Bootcamps are designed to begin at the beginning, that's what a new person needs.

After that if you want to buy $200+ courses that's your business, but you may not need to, if you honestly go through a bootcamp.

Elliott

mtkman

Someone said it already - check out Wealthy Affiliate. When you have time to wait a little bit like 2-3 weeks, then they will have a 14 day trial for $1 and they are completely revamping the site and tools.

Wealthy Affiliate is a really good spot if you are completely new. PM me in case you have any more detailed questions I´ll be glad to answer them.

Cheers,

mtkman

MrSalesFunnel

Do a Google search for Jason Fladlien niche invasion system - it's only $14 and he teaches you everything you need to know how to find a niche, a desperate problem, how to create the product, gives you a sales letter template, squeeze page video template, and product template. Do exactly what he says for 90 days and you will have a successful IM business. The key is to take immediate, daily action, without hesitation or second guessing. Jason has a good reputation here on WF. I've watched him start out selling a $4 report just 18 months ago to selling a $9,000 copy writing seminar this year. He's the real deal.

webguru3287

Affiliorama is a good resource for any newbie.

highrider21

Check out the 30 day challenge. It's completely free and the videos are still up.
This is the website: Thirty Day Challenge

nadzrul

my advice: buy internet marketing related ebook(s), and develop your own billion dollar internet marketing technique. Learn from your own mistakes fr that's what it takes to become a successful entrepreneur.

John Piteo

Stay away from any type of “Get Rich Quick” ebooks and courses. They are “Newbie Traps”. They cause you to have overinflated expectations.

They’ll make you think you can make $10,000 or $20,000 per month within a month or two. This is not realistic and will prevent you from doing hard work for smaller realistic gains.

This will lead you into another “Newbie Trap” called opportunity hopping. If it looks too good, too fast or too easy to be true then use extreme caution.

John P

kbs

I would recommend starting w/ article marketing as it has passed the test of time. I see that some have recommended potpie girl's program. Also might want to have a look at Travis Saigo as he and Potpie Girl are buds and I think that Potpie Girl was mentored by Travis.

Also as it was said before "Trust No One!" especially those that tell you you can make $300,000 + per month by following their easy system. Remember if it was easy everyone would be doing it and succeeding.

pavionjsl

First thing a new person should buy is a warrior forum membership or live here for awhile reading and learning. Pick something you like or want the challenge of then research the right tools from there. And god forbide do not by every new thing there is.

Gordon K

I recommend Chris Farrell. I've learned more from him in two weeks than I have in several years of trying to figure things out from various sources. And, it really is step by step instruction, so you can build a good foundation of basic skills and remove some of the information overload. More confidence is the result.

He doesn't just teach what to do, but how to do it. For example; he doesn't just tell you to purchase a domain name and change the nameservers. He shows you, by video, every little step needed to do it. Same with autoresponders, etc.

There's a lot of good stuff out there, but I like and trust Chris. He waaay over-delivers too!

claytons

I ALWAYS recommend the thirty day challenge to complete newbies. It's free and they are completely trustworthy.

I also, of course, think we are too! :-)

Greg Jacobs

I went from 0 to five figures monthly only buying a $40 script and shared web hosting. Granted I did make some custom tools along my way, but that $40 script is the only outside thing I bought.

I didn't know there was a 'warrior forum' or IM community until after I was already successful. Any sales letter I saw, I immediately closed.

I found my success by observation and being a bit clever, taking a system that somewhat worked and putting my own spin on it.

If there is one piece of solid advice it would be to not be attached to your sites. They are just there for you to earn.

and more importantly
-if you find a formula that works, then automate and replicate.
meaning if you have a site that makes you $10 a day.

Why not put up 100 of those sites?
People forget this and it is so simple and how I have found my success.

and before... you go but, but, but..... just ask yourself.
Do you want to earn? or do you want to be idealistic?

ebookdaddy

Hi D, don’t worry about being new and overwhelmed it happens to all of us. The trick is to pick one thing and stick with it. As far as choosing someone to follow I suggest you try out the thirty day challenge. thirtydaychallenge.com

This is off of the site:
WHAT IS THE THIRTY DAY CHALLENGE?
In a nutshell... The Thirty Day Challenge is about making your first $1 online. For a full 30 days we are going to be showing you exactly how to start your own Internet business and generate your first income online without spending a dime.

That's right, this is going to cost zip, diddly, nothing, nada, ziltch. The entire training program is free, and you won't have to spend a thing to get your business started and begin making money. No credit card required.

D,you can spend money signing up to different membership sites only to find out it’s not for you. The end result will be frustration and money loss. Start out slow and cheap to get your feet wet. Then once you have a good idea of what exactly it is you want to do online you can look into those membership sites.

Good luck my friend and remember don’t go spending your money on what sounds too good to be true. It usually is! It takes hard work and dedication to make money online just like in the real world.

dapsywealth

life is all about risks, and there is no way you wont waste money in this venture but no matter what, remain positive and you will make it.if the promises look too good to be true, flee because this business is not lottery.wish you luck

Ritz100

I would back this one all the way, I joined Chris's site two weeks ago and have really started to get referrals and sign ups, this after 18 months of struggling. He has a video for everything and the other members are a wide mixture of IMers with various levels of experience and skills, and they are all willing to help, no matter what question you ask of them.
I wish you luck on line, it takes work and dedication, but it is a great way to earn a living and I hope you make it.

pauljeaston

So true, copy writing can sometimes promise heaven. Study your craft well and sometimes share your knowledge as well. You'll be more successful. Oh, did I say focus is the best way to go from a failure to a success?

TheBeatles

I'd recommend Wealthy Affiliate, even when you do outgrow it, the networking opportunities are absolutely amazing

ladyniche

I would just like to say that this is that finding the Warrior Forum is the best find I have had since I started my currently failing venture in March.
So glad to be here.

candyeagle

Wow, all of these posts are overwhelming. I was hoping to get the answer to the trust question. I've spent a lot of money over the last 2 yrs on products and don't have much to show for it. My question in the trust issue is how can you believe how much people say they make?

As far as what teaching product to choose, I've learned to search reviews on the person and I won't get anything without a good guarantee.

Yesterday, I bought googlesniper (not an affiliate link) and plan on acting on it next week. It's described as a step-by-step relatively simple process and it has a 60 day guarantee. Now I have to write in my calendar a 60 day reminder to see if it's as good as George says.

pearsonbrown

Candy,

Make sure that you work hard on the Sniper material. By far the biggest problem you see around here is people buying things and then not using them. Don't get distracted by the next product to come out.

Pearson

Linda Van Fleet

If you stick around IM very long you will get burned once or twice ... but you'll also meet and establish some great relationships. It goes with the territory.

So ... who to trust: no one. Or, as Regan said, "trust but verify."

Whatever you do ... don't be afraid. Jump in and get wet. The IM arena is a great place to be and this forum is a good place to meet a few trustworthy people.

Linda

DASHBOY

Well theres not too many people you can trust, but you can trust yourself. What you'll find alot of the basic internet marketing information which is being sold can actually be found on the net for nothing. Do a little research try one method first see if its working once you have mastered how to at least do it add another method and so forth then see whats taking the least effort and making you the most cash and stick with that.

Good Luck And Don't Quit

Remember Its Get Rich Over Time Business You Want Not A Get Rich Today & Be Broke Tomorrow Experience!!

Graeme

JackLypka

The 30-Day Challenge is definitely the place to start. You'll learn a ton, and it's not overwhelming at all (unlike Wealthy Affiliate, IMO). All you'll get is one daily e-mail with your videos and tasks to watch and complete for the day. Very simple, concise, and free.

Once you start making money, I don't think it'd ever hurt to purchase any sort of eBook or other product related to the betterment of your business, as you'll almost always learn something. But - cashflow first, education second. And all the education that you need, to start, is available at no financial cost through Ed Dale's Thirty Day Challenge.

Best of luck.

Dean-MAS

I am a member of Wealthy Affiliate. I cant say I need it anymore but the people are wonderful, they willingly transmit their expertise to noobies and the contacts, much like her, are invaluable. They are about $39 a month. There is a wealth of tools, lessons, and other programs very valuable to the starter-upper. If you cant afford it right now, keep them in mind

prime777

Hi D.Starr,

I agree with of what is being said in this thread. Reason being that after about 3.5 years trying to market online I have been in the same situation you are in, confused looking a every program trying this and that up until just a month ago

What has changed for me is
1. I found a great mentor who I am very comfortable with
2. I Now have my own website which as you heard before is important and vital
3. For the first time in almost 4 years online I am building a list and learning the importance of doing so among other things .

Lesson here for me is that you need focus, direction and guidance to even begin to make sense with an online business. The earlier you can get that the better.

Bottom line - I have accomplished more in one month than I have accomplished in almost four years online.

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone contributing to the thread because I too am learning a great deal from your generous contributions.

Lylette

MissDarling

That is pretty good advice. The more information you get a hold of the more overwhelmed you will become.

Stick to your guns because eventually stuff will become clearer and the puzzle will get put together. With that, you will develop a keener eye for BS and pick and choose the tools that work the best.

I wish you all the best!

tush

Great advice. Everyone needs a their platform ie website or blog in order to be successful in the long run. The earlier one starts on it, the better for them. Wishing you all the best

Alexissalaam

Hi Lylette

You couldn't have said it better. D.Starr let me tell you I have been doing this a while now and like Lylette said I'm just getting the hang of it, a little bit anyway this is a business and you must treat it as such, because their are a lot of scavengers out there just waiting to pick your bones, don't get me wrong this is a great business and their are thousands of great guys and gals that will help you but sometimes it's hard to find them. So find somebody you like stick with them until you get the hang of it, the last thing you want to do is jump around from program to program that's a surefire way to blew a lot of money and I am talking from experience.

Good Luck and be safe out there.

Alexis

homeworkin

Kim Roach's stuff is good, Jimmy D. Brown is very straight forward, PotPie Girl, several others mentioned here.

The first thing I would ask yourself though, is what you want to spend your time doing? If you like to write, choose a system based on article marketing (such as Bum Marketing). If you hate to write, look for a system that uses other strengths.

You can probably learn as much from this forum (and Wealthy Affiliate) to blow your mind.

Realistically, I say, set a date by which you will move forward. Research, pick something, and really give it time to work.

MattSteel

My sister has been at this for over a year and just now got to the point where she can quit her day job and begin to support herself thru her business ventures, and I consider her a very lucky person, although "luck" is a bad word. She has been dilligently working for many hours each night after work to finally get to this point. She began getting involved more for fun than profit, then it just snowballed. My only advise is to do something you enjoy! "Do what you love, and love what you do!" Good luck!

steveblum

Hey D.Starr let me give it to you straight. Don't be a such a hurry to quit your day job. I know it probably sucks or you're about to lose it or whatever, but from your post it sounds like your speaking out of desperation.

I too was always thinking about the money and financial freedom, but to really understand marketing you need to live it. Sorry, but there are no get rich shortcuts, no matter what anybody says.

I still work a FT day job and I've done this stuff for years - have bills to pay and family to feed. Just learn whatever you can: free tools, free methods, marketing in general. Buy an inexpensive ebook or surf this forum for tips on getting yourself starting in the right marketing direction. Sorry, I probably didn't answer your question the way you wanted but this is the reality of the game.

tjmiller

I definately second the Chris Farrell recommendation. His membership site is paid, but lower than many. The thing about Chris is that he SPEAKS TO NEWBIES.

If you want to get a feel for his style for free; go to his site, download his free ebook, and sign up for his list. You will be getting his video newsletter "Success Grenade." It is very basic, and very good, and covers a lot of things that you need to know.

Plus he's a really nice guy!

Chris Farrell - Create Your First Website By 3:45 This Afternoon

(Not an affiliate link.)

eapen john

Hey there, D.Starr, there is no get rich quick formula to make money instantly online. If you try to establish your internet marketing business on your own, by researching on your own, it will take a long time and there is no guarantee that you will be in the right direction. From my experience I tell you success will come very very slow, after many failures. So join some good course or get some good book. Well, I have read both Who Loves Money and Beating Adwords and found them to be the best and a cut above the rest.