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Hey there. I write, and I've tried using Vista's speech recognition and unless its in word, I find I always have to say yes and choose my sentences. I am considering Dragon Naturally Speaking 9 standard, but was wondering if anyone had the chance to use both or what people think of it? I was looking at 10 but heard of lots of compatibility problems and that's with the 32 bit version. Can someone please advise? Thanks |
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I've ordered DSN 10 because the Vista speech to text just wasn't working for me. I spent more time editing than dictating When I get my box I'll come back and leave a review. I'm hoping that it is as good as everyone says it is!
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I can vouch for Dragon 9. If you take the time to train it and get a recommended (Tested) Microphone it's very powerful.
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Go with Dragon 10, I have Dragon 9 and Vista Speech Dragon 10 is way better then both. There is a marked improvement. |
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DNS 9 is an amazing piece of software. The only problem I have with it is that it doesn't give me enough time to think You MUST get a good microphone. Go with the Plantronics line of usb headset/mics. and you'll be fine. I ordered and received DNS 10 for my new Vista 64-Bit OS notebook (4GB RAM). I'll let you know how that goes.TomG. |
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I had Dragon 9, bought Dragon 10 and found it soooo much better than 9... faster and more accurate. You are correct, Dragon 10 won't work on Vista 64 - it is fine in 32 bit mode. However Dragon 11 was rewritten to also work in 64 bits. :-Don |
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Bruce, I almost fell off my chair looking at that video. That is very funny stuff. TomG. |
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To: cypherslock and Leanne King, and everyone else (Leanne I buy your WSO’s and they are great) I bought Dragon NaturallySpeaking when it was version 3. I now have version 10. It was a good product way back when, now it's great product. Caveat, I'm not using Windows Vista, I'm using XP and I will give up XP when they pry it from my cold dead hands (just a little bit of humor there. OK, humour for Leanne, the Aussies and Brits.) I can write a 1,600 word article, oops, I mean I can dictate a 1,600 word article in under 10 minutes. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist about my writing and so it can take me up to another 20 minutes to edit that article and the article almost always turns out to be a 2500 words long. (I know, I know everyone has told me, "That's not an article that's a Special Report, and for heck sake it's probably even a small e-book.") I have dictated some comments into forums and found that the best way to do this is to open up Word or OpenOffice and dictate into that because then I can use many of the advanced features. The really cool advanced features in version 10 are that I can say things like, capitalize "really advanced features" and it will do exactly what I tell it to do. Here's an example, this is an example, This Is a Further Example, I said, "capitalize this is a further example" and it did capitalize what I told it to. Well, you didn't see it but it did capitalize What I Told It to do. It will do things like Bold and a lot of other really cool stuff just by telling it what you want to do in somewhat simple and plain English. BTW, I'm not an employee I don't make one red cent from this kind of review or recommendation I've just been using this for a long time and think it is one of the greatest things for computers in the entire world. (I've been reading science fiction since I was 12 years old, not quite 100 years ago , and have always dreamed of being able to talk into computers and get them to do what I want them to do, or give me the information that I want.) Oh yes, you can enter words in Google and some of the other search engines and get Dragon to do stuff for you online by just speaking into your microphone. The command is, 'Click Search' after you've entered some words into a search engine, works like a charm. It clicks the button, amazing huh?(Segue to microphone, that's an old broadcasters term and I am a very old TV news reporter) I got my microphone from eMicrophones.com (usual disclaimer, I'm not an affiliate, not an owner and not an employee.) The quality of service from these guys is absolutely phenomenally great. What I got was an Automatic Noise Canceling Microphone. (The voice command for this was capitalize 'automatic through microphone' and that's what the program did, this is so amazing I can't tell you how excited I am.) My microphone is an ANC-750 and currently it costs about $65, and let me tell you it is absolutely worth it. The quality of your microphone is really one of the key components of getting this program to work correctly. There are better and more expensive microphones, this was just the one that I chose and it has been really great. Big Warning, an automatic noise canceling microphone puts out a kind of high-pitched humming in the background that cancels out sounds coming from within the room. If you record in Audacity or some other program with your ANC microphone you will hear this background hum. So, you will probably need another microphone if you're going to do voiceovers or record audio. Believe it or not the little microphone that comes with Dragon is perfect for recording audio, no hum whatsoever. Please, let me give you one more tip, the more you speak, let me rephrase that, the longer you dictate your sentences, the longer you speak into the microphone the more accurate your sentences are going to be. If you only say three words your sentences can be kind of goofy. When you say a sentence that is extremely long and you just keep talking the program knows what you're trying to say and it will put the right words on the screen. (From the word "When" to the word "screen" were all said in one long dictation into the microphone, and the program got it correct.) The Single Most Important Thing about Using This Program Is: The more you dictate using this program, you will get more comfortable and choose the right commands talking into a microphone, you will get faster, you will get better, and then you will get more productive. Bottom line, the more you use it the better you get at using it. 827 words, 10 minutes including editing. And I really hope this helps any of you who are thinking about getting a program like this and using it. PLEASE, check around for coupons, upgrades and discounts. You can usually get this program for less than retail if you do a little bit of searching. All my best, Palo |
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@Bruce: haha, that was funny @Palo: Thanks for sharing this, I'm planning to buy it and I really appreciate your insight. The only problem I see is that my post will become too long and then nobody will read it hehe. But it's great for creating info products. Take care, ~Davor |
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Vista speech to text should be called Vista speech to nonsense.
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Davor, Are you politely saying my post was too long? (9 words) LOL, yes, when I get going I keep on going. Davor, thanks for the comment ![]() Palo |
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Stick with Dragon Naturally Speaking, it is the better program. Joel |
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Now I wonder whether I should get a different microphone and try all over or whether there was something about my voice that is just problematic.... though I don't think my speech is unusual. | |
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I have Dragon 9 and just installed it to my new Vista 64 computer and it doesn't seem to work. I guess I will have to look into DNS 11.
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I have been looking at Dragon Naturally Speaking and was wondering if it will work with a digital voice recorder? I like to record my thoughs and articles on the move and it would be great to plug it into something like DNS and have it converted to text. Thanks Noel |
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Great post, Palo Coyote! Absolutely true, in my experience. Dragon Naturally Speaking is a real time-saver. Like you, I've been an avid user since Version 3, when it came with a digital recorder. I'm now using DNS Version 10 Preferred and each version has been a noticeable improvement over the others, although I preferred the look and feel of Version 9 over Version 10. The software is shipped with a cheap headset. I found it uncomfortable, but stuck with it for a while. Finally I switched to a decent quality clip-on microphone and that made a world of difference. Wireless is another option, but I've yet to go there. Best advice I can give is to spend a few hours "training" this software to your voice. It's easy to do with the various text options provided. Also... it takes a while to get comfortable writing this way, particularly if you're used to fingers dancing across your keyboard. But it's well worth it if you want to crank out articles, reports, ebooks, manuals and the like faster than most of us ever could by typing alone. It's not 100% accurate... and you will need to do some editing. But if increased writing productivity is important, than DNS is something that I heartily recommend. Cheers! Robert | |
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I picked up DNS 9 and will upgrade via their site to 9.5 as that addresses the compatibility issues with Vista 32-bit. I managed to find a demo of 9 and it was quite impressive. We'll see about 11 when it comes out. Looking forward to this!
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HAha, Bruce thanks for the laugh....... 10+ mins of it.... Is the guy serious? LOL....... I would assume unless he has RSI, he'll be MORE productive using a keyboard than a mic! I don't think this app was ever designed to replace programming or coding tasks. Perhaps maybe simple conversation or dictation (maybe we should have a new word - "constidation", the verbal version of constipation!) Way too funny! |
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Bruce, that was very funny...thanks for this clip
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Just a quick note to those thinking of pulling the trigger on Dragon Naturally Speaking. Windows 7 is shipping with voice recognition, I've tried it out and it's not that bad. I use Dragon on Windows XP, when I transition to Windows 7, I do not think it will be a problem using that for my main voice recognition program. Also, a quick technical note on on Dragon, if you're running Google desktop search you should turn it off before using Dragon as I find it locks the user files. |
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Well I've got my dragon speaking naturally now and I've got to say it's great. I already type at 70 wpm but this makes it so much easier and it even likes the Aussie accent. Still need to do a little more training with it but I'm pretty pleased so far. There is no comparison with DSN and the vista text to gobbley gook I'm using a 32 bit vista with it with no problems but for those with 64 bit there is an upgrade in the download area.
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I would also recommend getting the Preferred version of DNS if you can stretch your budget. The extra features are worth it for me. Sam |
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Just a heads up, I saw that DNS 10 Preferred (works on Vista 64!) is only $49.99 after a $50 rebate. That is a great deal. Good through July 31. Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10 Preferred with Headset A109A-K07-10.0 at TigerDirect.com (Not an affiliate link) |
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A good find Greg. I'd never heard of Tigerdirect before. |
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Ditto on that thanks to Greg. I've been waiting for another deal like that to come around before buying DNS. The problem is, I waited so long that in the interim I upgraded to a 64-bit Vista machine, BUT - I do all my work in a virtual XP environment. I saw this in the min. specs for DNS 10 Preferred: -Windows XP SP2 or higher, 32-bit I'm not much of a techie, but I assume that means that if I install DNS on my virtual XP machine it would be as if I were installing it on a real XP machine - but would it read it as being 32-bit or 64-bit...? Maybe it's a long shot, but if any technical-types read this and have an idea of how that works in a situation like this, I'd be mighty grateful for your insight. Reading this thread has made me want to rush out and get DNS and start using it, but I'd rather not waste my time on a futile exercise, if ya know what I mean. |
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Never tried vista speech and feel isolated regarding Dragon looking at other peoples comments. I have dragon 9 and unless I talk complete garbage as a norm, and some may say I do, I have found it a complete waste of time. I have spent so long trying to train the thing I could have written war and peace in calligraphy.
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I found that a good quality microphone made all the difference in the world. (It cost about $100). Also I spent about 4 or 5 hours training the software. It's still not perfect by any means, but it is still way faster for me. Sam |
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I sounded like that poor guy when I was writing an article using Vista Speech last night. Sometimes, it isn't that bad, but last night it didn't want to behave at all. I think I may have to give Dragon a try again. (I had version 3 many years ago.)
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I am looking into purchasing Dragon Naturally Speaking and have a XP system So it looks lie 10 would be the best edition for me. Is there any benifit of edition 11? Best Regards |
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To my knowledge there is no version 11 just yet. I would go for 10 as it is quicker and more accurate than previous versions. You can find the standard edition on eBay for around $60 US. I've also responded to your earlier PM, and would like a bit more info. Hit me up |
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Dragon Naturally Speaking Standard version 10 is being offered today at Staples for $75 with a $45 rebate.
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