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Old 10-08-2008, 09:30 AM   #1
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Are there any warriors in teh south east of the UK interested in meeting up?

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Old 10-08-2008, 09:34 AM   #2
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I'm in Portsmouth and tried to get some people together before. There was some interest so if more people want to let me know and I'll dig out my old post and get contacts for thsoe people too.
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I'm not exactly south east, South Wales but say getting to Bristol would be ok.

My problem is getting back here for the afternoon school run.

Perhaps I should start a thread for the South Wales area, what do you guys think?

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Don't forget the London Lunch. It isn't just for Londoners you know - in fact, the locals are way outnumbered!

Visit The Internet Marketers' London Lunch Announcement List for all the details.

The next London Lunch will be on Friday November 28th.

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Count me in for the London lunch.
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Old 10-20-2008, 02:27 AM   #7
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Suzanne - I'm W Midlands. What about a meeting in the Ross on Wye area? Not a big town I know, but easily accessible (M50) or A40 and easy parking. I'd be happy to organise, depending on numbers

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Suzanne - I'm W Midlands. What about a meeting in the Ross on Wye area? Not a big town I know, but easily accessible (M50) or A40 and easy parking. I'd be happy to organise, depending on numbers

Yeah that would be good

I can only do Mon to Fri and either need to be back here for 3pm OR I could make an evening event, again during the week though.

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Yeah that would be good

I can only do Mon to Fri and either need to be back here for 3pm OR I could make an evening event, again during the week though.

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Old 10-21-2008, 04:32 PM   #10
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Very true Dean.. I think we all have to put our families first no matter wether we work from home or not

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Old 10-27-2008, 03:49 AM   #11
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Suzanne - I'm W Midlands. What about a meeting in the Ross on Wye area? Not a big town I know, but easily accessible (M50) or A40 and easy parking. I'd be happy to organise, depending on numbers
I'm in the West Midlands also. I would be interested in a meet up.

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Old 10-28-2008, 09:39 AM   #12
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Hi,
I'm in Stroud, Glos. Technically South West but only an hour from Birmingham, an hour from Cardiff, less than that to Bristol. Would love to meet up

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Old 10-30-2008, 12:47 PM   #13
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I'm west of London, near Reading. Very interested in a meet if I can make time & place. Please PM if you need more detail.

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Old 11-08-2008, 01:54 PM   #14
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Hey

I am in central London, near the tower bridge.

Would love to meet fellow warriors. So let me know if you guys are in town, i will organise a meeting and venue. I have been organising parties and seminar for long time, so could organise a get together quickly.

Pm me if you guys want to meet up soon.

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Old 11-19-2008, 02:04 PM   #15
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Has there been a meet up yet or is this the first one? If yes, how was the last one?

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Old 11-20-2008, 02:24 PM   #16
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Hi Paul,

I'm in Surrey and I'd be interested to meet some SE Warriors.

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Old 02-18-2009, 01:53 AM   #17
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I'm in Brighton, and I'm very keen on meeting local IM'ers. I've been studying this stuff for a couple of years now, but I don't know anyone locally who I can brainstorm with and it's driving me mad.

I'd love to get a local group together, meeting once a fortnight or so in a local pub, nothing fancy, just an evening spent masterminding, as they call it, and generally comparing notes over a pint.

Definitely PM me if you're interested.

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Hi Everyone,

I'm in Hertfordshire in the UK, new to the forum, and I'd love to network with fellow warriors - especially those into CPA marketing

Look forward to meeting my fellow UK warriors soon

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Old 02-22-2009, 11:38 AM   #19
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OK, let's see if I can't organise something; I'll try at least!

Can anybody who is interested please give an indication of 1st, 2nd & 3rd choices of:

* Lunch
* Afternoon
* Evening

and 1st, 2nd & 3rd choices of:

* Monday-Thursday
* Friday
* Weekend

Once we have a few 'market research' opinions back in, I'll try to organise something that will suit the majority of respondents.

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I am in West Kent, Sevenoaks. It would be good to meet up with fellow Warriors.
For me, I can make just about any scheduled meet, day or evening, any day of the week.

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Old 03-01-2009, 07:52 AM   #21
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Hi
I am in Essex and woud'nt mind attending a meeting in the near future to swap and discuss ideas.

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Hi All,

Am from Bournemouth.pls include me in the loop

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Old 03-05-2009, 06:09 AM   #23
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Hi Webthings
Count me in...
1.Evening
2.Afternoon
3.Lunch
1.Mon-Thur
2.Friday
3.Weekends

As a new member to the forum I look forwqard to getting together with some like minded warriors. If I try and talk to mates/family about anything Internet they just glaze over.
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Good stuff, we're fast heading towards the point of having enough people for a pub meet / dinner; in fact, I think we're already there!

Anybody else interested in coming, and want to state a preference on timing?

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Would love to meet up. Can do most times, prefer afternoons if poss.

Let me know when.

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I would love to get a meetup going, I run a website for IM's so if we got one going Il email them and try get a few to come as well

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I am based in London and it would be good to meet up with fellow Warriors.

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Hi, I'm in Worthing, West Sussex and would be keen to meet up - Available during the working day. Especially interested in hooking up with one or more folk to work the 'offline gold' market - Dealing with real small & medium bushinesses, local marketing etc. Need the motivation that team work brings. Anyone interested? Pete
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OK, so we potentially have people coming from Berks, Herts, Glos, West Midlands, Kent, Essex, Surrey, Bournemouth, Brighton, Worthing & London. Leave it with me, and I'll try to find somewhere that's convenient for both the southern/western loop of the M25 and trains.

Like Pete, I'm also interested in the offline market as well, and actively trying to work it at present. Does anybody else share that interest, or is everybody else straight IM?

Afternoon appears to be a popular time, and of course it gives the benefit of being able to extend into evening if so wanted. Is there anybody that can't make a weekday afternoon?

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Hi Andrew
I can make weekdays. Are you leaning towards a central London meet up? That would probably be more convenient for everyone to get to IMO.
Also interested in the offline, not into it yet but keen to look at anything interesting and, preferably, lucrative,

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I am also actively working the offline market here in my area of South Wales. However, again, due to school runs, I can't make London in the pm.

Are there any people wanting to meet in the South Wales area? Cardiff, Swansea (preferably as I am 10 miles from there LOL) - however, Bristol would be ok depending on the time of day as that is just a couple of hours drive for me so could conceivably make that and back in time for the school run...

Perhaps I should start a thread for a meet-up of "Parents who work at home" was gonna say Mums but that is sexist, plenty of Dads work at home and look after their kids as well.

Anyway.. good luck to you all.

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OK, so we potentially have people coming from Berks, Herts, Glos, West Midlands, Kent, Essex, Surrey, Bournemouth, Brighton, Worthing & London. Leave it with me, and I'll try to find somewhere that's convenient for both the southern/western loop of the M25 and trains.

Like Pete, I'm also interested in the offline market as well, and actively trying to work it at present. Does anybody else share that interest, or is everybody else straight IM?

Afternoon appears to be a popular time, and of course it gives the benefit of being able to extend into evening if so wanted. Is there anybody that can't make a weekday afternoon?

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As I mentioned earlier in this thread, the London Lunch is a long established networking meeting that has been running now every couple of months for almost 4 years.

This is the announcement list signup page: The London Lunch Announcement List - The bi-monthly London Lunch for Internet marketers run by Martin Avis

We meet in a nice hotel in Central London on or around the last Friday of alternate months. The next meeting is Friday 22nd May (the most recent was last week!)

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Typical that I'd start looking around for something like this 1 week after it happens! Ah well I look forward to attending in two months time.

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Don't forget the London Lunch. It isn't just for Londoners you know - in fact, the locals are way outnumbered!

Visit The Internet Marketers' London Lunch Announcement List for all the details.

The next London Lunch will be on Friday November 28th.

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Looks like a good turn out of people, is the next one November 28th 09?
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Looks like a good turn out of people, is the next one November 28th 09?
This runs every other month. The next one is 17th July '09.

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Hi

I live in Southampton, often in the Reading area, Bristol too (my outlaws live near there!), very happy to meet up with others.

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