Bought My First Website - Good Decision?

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Hey warriorforum,
I've been consistently reading on the site for awhile, learning and waiting to make my move into the Internet marketing world. I recently purchased a website which cost me $2000, it is currently still going through the escrow process so if it doesn't check out I can still get my money back. It's currently pulling in anywhere from $30-$200 a month. It gets 13k uniques a month, but has a bounce rate of 75% and average time is only 1:50 duration. I already have plans to add affiliate links and improve content, I believe the previous owner didnt add the proper affiliate links or anything really and I do believe I can grow it quickly considering I know quite a lot about the niche (dating). Did I make a bad choice by spending that much for it? Or if I know I can add proper links and improve quality and content very well will I be alright? Again like I said, I still need to check out the income verification and I do have the chance to back out.

Any information is appreciated, I'm new to this.
Thank you guys
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  • Profile picture of the author AdvancedBusiness
    I forgot to mention it came with 450 subscribers list, an android app, Facebook account, and twitter. Also all the traffic is free seo content. I just want to make sure I should hop in for sure and follow through with the investment or just buy a domain, get hosting, and have a site built to which I can add content..
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Ultimately it comes down to what it would have cost you to build all of that yourself and get it to the level its currently at. Also factor in the time savings.
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalairships
    There's a lot of variables when it comes to price valuation. If you only keep it at $200 per month in profits you will make back your investment within a year, which is not a bad payback period.

    If you are able to find higher quality affiliate products that convert even better and are able to add quality content and use some marketing techniques to pre-sell your affiliate offers I would think you could do quite well with 13,000 unique visitors per month.

    I've got websites that make $200 per month on less than 1,000 unique visitors so it sounds like you may have something you can work with. The REAL key for you will be to work hard and follow thru and test everything to make sure your "improvements" actually achieve what you want.

    Having a site already built, along with an app, subscriber lists, etc. can give you good leg up to help you get moving faster, but as you gain more experience you may find you can do better building your own sites from scratch. It's just a matter of how much work you want to do upfront.
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  • Profile picture of the author grandstar
    Good move if you can optimise it. Improve the content and the layout and place appropriate affiliate links. If possible add social media to the mix. Its great for SEO and building traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author desbravador
      From the looks of it, as you have described it, its a good decision, all you have to do is search for places where you can optimize it or try to cross sell where your already getting an income
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      • Profile picture of the author ripperdav
        With that amount of traffic it's attracting, it certainly sounds like a good choice.

        In honesty, that site should be earning FAR more with that amount of traffic.

        I would definitely work on adding more valuable content...and perhaps get into the minds of the visitors that are coming to the site. Perhaps run a few surveys and ask what type of content they would like to see. How can you help out this crowd the most?

        Though you are getting the traffic, the bounce rate is awfully high...so that's where I would start I believe.

        Also, the best answer for monetizing the site might not just be "only" affiliate products.

        Consider creating your own marketing funnel...perhaps adding your own products...and then combine the two monetization strategies.

        There's a lot to be said about having your own marketing funnel and products...building your own list of buyers of your own products for one...which helps you to gain trust and authority. That's just one of the perks...

        Hope that helps with an idea or two for you anyhow...
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    I you really focus aon adding more content, engaging more people and building a bigger list, then it's definately worth the money you paid for it.

    I wouldn't necessarily focus on adding affiliate links though (unless it's a review site), and more focus on bringing down the bounce rate, and maybe find new traffic sources. The dating niche is huge so shouldn't be a problem imo.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Brett Hitchcock
      I agree with all the advice and I will add that you should make sure you keep in touch with that list because it could be making you more than that a day if you build good relationships with good content.
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  • Profile picture of the author tonyharte
    Seems like a well thought out purchase and have/getting some great ideas on improvements. Definitely do your research on the history of interactions with the list and keep them engaged. If you have your own style you want to bring to that engagement you may want to see how closely it aligns with the current relationship and alter over time as you grow. A drastic change in the relationship may disconnect you from some of the investment you just made and that would suck....

    Best wishes!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andreas Quintana
    I am sure that you didn't make a bad decission. It might have cost you $2000, but with that kind of traffic you should easily be able to make it back within 2 to 3 months if you monetize your site right.

    I would recommend setting up a lead capture on the front page, so that you can start building your list and perhaps make some quick cash with some PPL (Pay Per Lead) programs.

    That way you are making money at the same time you are building out the site
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    • Profile picture of the author AdvancedBusiness
      Thanks for all the great advice guys I extremely appreciate it and its really helped solidify my feeling that or made a good investment. Although I am not quite sure where to start in monetizing the site properly, it does in fact have a lead page (where you add your email in to opt in as a subscriber if that's what a lead page means lol), it has reviews on some books but no affiliate links to buy said books which to me is a no brainier, I am going to change the colors an full lay out as I believe the first thing a person sees when visiting the sight shouldn't be a huge advertisement at the top of the page attempting to sell them the ebook (it also came with an all original ebook). Any other ideas as to where to begin? I am going to utilize Facebook to get more subscribers and do paid advertising -ppc, and also the Facebook page has 7000 likes and twitter has 7k as well so that's a plus as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Work1099
    Originally Posted by AdvancedBusiness View Post

    Hey warriorforum,
    I've been consistently reading on the site for awhile, learning and waiting to make my move into the Internet marketing world. I recently purchased a website which cost me $2000, it is currently still going through the escrow process so if it doesn't check out I can still get my money back. It's currently pulling in anywhere from $30-$200 a month. It gets 13k uniques a month, but has a bounce rate of 75% and average time is only 1:50 duration. I already have plans to add affiliate links and improve content, I believe the previous owner didnt add the proper affiliate links or anything really and I do believe I can grow it quickly considering I know quite a lot about the niche (dating). Did I make a bad choice by spending that much for it? Or if I know I can add proper links and improve quality and content very well will I be alright? Again like I said, I still need to check out the income verification and I do have the chance to back out.

    Any information is appreciated, I'm new to this.
    Thank you guys
    This strikes me as a situation where it's not a clear-cut case of right or wrong. Even if it "fails," it still could've been a sound speculation to begin with; not every venture succeeds.

    As for if this specific investment is a good idea, I'll with-hold my response ... because without doing a more in-depth analysis, and comparing it to other options available, it isn't clear if it was an appropriate investment. Generally, no investment can be evaluated in a vacuum. Comparing it to multiple choices allows you to get a better feel for your options. It gives you a benchmark against which to understand each individual investment more clearly ... and the value of each.

    With that in mind, I'd simply advise that you focus on refining your ability to analyze which businesses to buy in the future. Find ways to compare multiple options, and then select the best one to go with.

    Also, your hard-won experience in buying, and building businesses will help you fine-tune this selection process over time, of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author techservice
    This is the problem - sounds like you’re a newbie so you won't have the experience of growing sites. but good luck with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author flesterking
    You need to bring the site to next level and that is where the real potential is. I believe you are a beginner so be sure to build the site up to next level in all ways.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doug
    Sounds as though you have a pretty good opportunity for learning some valuable lessons.

    Several good ideas have been offered up too.

    I would add, with the traffic you have coming now, what ever changes you make - do them slowly. And one change at a time.

    You want to have a good feel for 'manipulating' the traffic with your change. Before the change you determine to make, decide what your desired outcome is off the change, and then allow your traffic to be the test whether or not you made the right decision.

    With a whole bunch of simultaneous changes you won't know what was good vs. what wasn't. And really waste your time.

    Another thing, do you know where the traffic is currently coming from now? If you mentioned I missed it above. Knowing your traffic source might help determine where to start change(s) for testing and tracking.

    Doug
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  • Profile picture of the author AdvancedBusiness
    Excellent advice Doug! I hadn't thought of how making a bunch of changes at once would affect my ability to determine what was good and what wasn't. Also, basically all traffic is currently coming from google I believe. There are a few keyword phrases where it's actually #1 on google search. My first plan was to change the look a bit, needs some color and layout changes. After that I figured I couldn't go wrong with adding more quality articles personally written by myself, as I have a lot of knowledge to offer on the content. Once I've effectively added better content and made the site better looking and user friendly, thus making for a better bounce rate, better seo, and page views, then I will focus on the business aspect of improving the ctr and percent of viewers that actually purchase by adding better products along with quality reviews, my own ebook, and begin focus on using Ppc and paid Facebook advertising. All one step at a time, in order to turn this into a steady stream of income. Keep in mind I am going to be focusing on this full time, and I'll add more sites as I learn more and become better. Does this sound like a solid strategy?
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    • Profile picture of the author Doug
      Sounds like you have a handle on how you will proceed and the outcomes you are looking to achieve. Good. Don't despise the day of small beginnings, you will do fine.

      This next question might seem a bit off topic, but here goes... did you ever play baseball?

      What seems to the casual observer, 9 guys standing around most of the time waiting for something to happen, right? However, each one of those players is actually thinking about how they will react should the batter make contact. In their mind, well before each pitch is thrown, every player on the field keeps his minds eye on the ball.

      Never take your eye off that ball, no matter how shiny (with Internet marketing every thing shines bright) the distraction seems to be, ever.

      Doug

      Originally Posted by AdvancedBusiness View Post

      Excellent advice Doug! I hadn't thought of how making a bunch of changes at once would affect my ability to determine what was good and what wasn't. Also, basically all traffic is currently coming from google I believe. There are a few keyword phrases where it's actually #1 on google search. My first plan was to change the look a bit, needs some color and layout changes. After that I figured I couldn't go wrong with adding more quality articles personally written by myself, as I have a lot of knowledge to offer on the content. Once I've effectively added better content and made the site better looking and user friendly, thus making for a better bounce rate, better seo, and page views, then I will focus on the business aspect of improving the ctr and percent of viewers that actually purchase by adding better products along with quality reviews, my own ebook, and begin focus on using Ppc and paid Facebook advertising. All one step at a time, in order to turn this into a steady stream of income. Keep in mind I am going to be focusing on this full time, and I'll add more sites as I learn more and become better. Does this sound like a solid strategy?
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  • Profile picture of the author Work1099
    Doug shares an excellent point. Think of it as a conversation with the viewer. Each page picks up where the last page left off. If you test more than one at a time, you can't be sure if the improvement or decrement in results is the cause of the changes on the page ... or due to the different frame set by the page before it (which also changed). End-to-end testing of it as a continuous conversation being preferable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roth
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    If it was making a consistent 200/month then it would have been worth $2000. However, if it is really only making $30/month then it was only really worth $300.

    You said it made an average of 30-200/month...I don't know what that means because that's not an average. You should have found the actual average monthly earnings before negotiating price.

    You bought it so it must have seemed like a great deal to you. If you can make it profitable, great. If not, then consider it a lesson learned.
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  • Profile picture of the author James.N
    Every website has it's price. $2000 can be way to much for certain sites and not nearly enough for others. I've purchased a handful of sites from Flippa, enough that I have silver buyer status (whatever that means).

    I believe that the #1 factor when looking at a site with existing traffic is the traffic sources and more importantly the backlink profile. You wouldn't believe how many sites have a terribly bad backlink profiles. It's just a matter of time before the site stops ranking.

    When I go through the Flippa listings, a lot of the sites have 5K visitors a month then you look at their traffic stats and they immediately shot up from 0 visitors to 3-4K 2 months ago, then up to 5K the last month.

    Do you realize how tough it is to legitimately and organically build up subscribers in a 2 month span? Not many people can get a jump like that overnight.
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  • Profile picture of the author AdvancedBusiness
    It doesn't have many back links. I can work on that though. 81% of traffic is google/organic. 15% is direct. I am wondering if anyone knows the easiest method of getting yahoo and bing organic traffic?
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    • Profile picture of the author nitro37
      Keep us posted on how things go, I'm curious.
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    • Profile picture of the author vampirerocks123
      Originally Posted by AdvancedBusiness View Post

      It doesn't have many back links. I can work on that though. 81% of traffic is google/organic. 15% is direct. I am wondering if anyone knows the easiest method of getting yahoo and bing organic traffic?
      Yahoo and Bing - Not good as google. And it take more days to rank with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author th3genie
    seems interesting really
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  • Profile picture of the author AdvancedBusiness
    I'll keep everyone updated, we're still working on transferring everything into my accounts and should be done in the next day or two. Once everything is transferred I will begin work and keep you up to speed on my progress.
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