What is it about dog training?

[Steve Crooks]

I am not being overly picky or anything.. Okay I am, but what is it about dog training that seems to make it the perfect example whenever someone gives advice and examples about niche marketing? I even find myself doing it as well.. It's dog training this, dog training that.. Why?

[Sven Schoene]

"Everybody" has a dog, but no one in their right mind would come up with the idea to sell an ebook about it. Perfect example to get people to understand niche-marketing.
(Good question, Steve!)

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Generally, people like dogs and can relate to the concept.

[Dan C. Rinnert]

Because people might assume a book on cat training would be to unbelievable to be real?

[Steve Crooks]

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

[tranquility]

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Because people might assume a book on cat training would be to unbelievable to be real?

LOL! All I know is that my cat sure has ME trained!

[George Wright]

Hi,

Another reason is that there are so many niches to develop.

Every breed "needs" a dog training book. How to train your German Shepard, Beagle, Spaniel etc.

Then you "need" specific types of training. How to house train, stop barking, guard, get along with children etc.

Then there is dog care, Home made recipes, bathing and grooming, treating ear infections, cuts/burns/bruises etc.

There are many more examples.

Then too, I remember some of the first products I ever saw in eBook format were about dogs. Maybe the concept got branded in our minds that, "dog" books were gold.

George Wright

[Aronya]

I think Cesar Milan did pretty well.

Couldn't resist.

[Steven Carl Kelly]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

Only indirectly.

[kurt naulaerts]

Steve, I was going to give it a try. Just wondering whether I should create 1 big site or different domains for e.g. dog training, dog care, puppies, etc

What do you think?

Kurt

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

[Dan C. Rinnert]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

Yes. Not a lot, but I haven't done a lot of work (okay, I've hardly done anything at all) to drive traffic to the site.

Originally Posted by Aronya

I think Cesar Milan did pretty well.

Couldn't resist.

I think Cesar Milan is the reason people buy dog training eBooks. They try the stuff he does on TV, scratch their heads when their dogs look at them like they're stupid, and then try to find a dog training eBook with advice that will work for them.

At least, that's the way it seems to work with chihuahuas.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

I am not being overly picky or anything.. Okay I am, but what is it about dog training that seems to make it the perfect example whenever someone gives advice and examples about niche marketing? I even find myself doing it as well.. It's dog training this, dog training that.. Why?

Because it's a simple example and easy to understand. Never underestimate simplicity.

Michelle

[George Wright]

Yes they have. At least they made money off of me and some of my friends who have bought them.

OK I know you meant have I/We made any money. No. Except.....

I can say this, the dog books I used to sell on eBay always sold out. I couldn't keep enough stockpiled. These were the little shiny hardbacks, "how to train your (whatever breed). They usually sold for more used than they sold for when they were new. As far as eBooks on dogs, not me.

George Wright

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

[Matt Maiden]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

Yes. I have and continue to.

Matt

[Matt Maiden]

Originally Posted by surfbot

...is it even possible to saturate this niche???

Do you think that there are going to be more competitors in this niche than new dog owners coming onto the Internet?

Same with other popular niches.

Sometimes people forget that there are thousands of new people coming onto the Internet every hour searching for the same old popular niches.

This thing with dating sites being "hot" is nothing new. They have been "hot" since Rosiland Gardner ( she is one the first Super Affiliates on the web ) started her affiliate business with dating sites back in the mid '90s.

Everyday hundreds of thousands of people are turning 21 years old. They are getting on their cell phones and twittering something that has to do with being that age.

If you understand a "market" like 21 year olds and their trends and fashions what they talk about where they like to eat, what music they listen to...

Then you are tapping into a potential goldmine.

My age group is Baby Boomers. Retirement, health, looking younger...

There are thousands of people who are about to retire and are coming online to look something up that has to do with retirement.

That will continue to grow for quite a few years before it starts diminish.

So, it is very hard for some topics to be overly saturated.

Matt

[Rezbi]

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Because people might assume a book on cat training would be to unbelievable to be real?

Yup.

Dogs are pretty thick and can be trained.

Cats will just look at you and ask, "You talkin' to me?"

Just before turning around and walking away without a care in the world.

I prefer cats.

[kf]

Frank Kern - if memory serves, about 40K/mos in the dog training niche.

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

[Black Hat Cat]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

I am not being overly picky or anything.. Okay I am, but what is it about dog training that seems to make it the perfect example whenever someone gives advice and examples about niche marketing? I even find myself doing it as well.. It's dog training this, dog training that.. Why?

Because they heard some "Gu ru" do it, and lacking the creativity to come up with their own example(most likely because they're full of crap), they simply regurgitate what they've heard elsewhere.

[CDarklock]

I think I'm going to write an ebook about how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Then, whenever I need an example of a niche product, I'll use "making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich" as my example, and have a link to the ebook. I'll sell it for $1, and people will buy it just because they simply cannot believe someone would write a book about that.

[Matt Maiden]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

...just because they simply cannot believe someone would write a book about that.

When I was in the Army many many moons ago, we had an 8 page booklet explaining how to use a pair of pliers.

Think I'm going to start looking for Army Surplus stores

Matt

[KimPup]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

Sure have!!

[hangtimenino]

I think because anyone could always relate to dogs, and i think its a common topic.

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden

When I was in the Army many many moons ago, we had an 8 page booklet explaining how to use a pair of pliers.

My favorite was always "FM1: The Army".

You know, in case you still don't know what it is.

[Steve Wisley]

Funny I was just thinking about marketing a product in the dog training niche. Must be karma.
I believe there are several reasons for the example like several given above. But, the best answer is that the guru's use it so this must be the correct one to use. And everyone keeps passing it along.

[neruos]

I have 5 dogs and got a dog bite yesterday trying to break up a fight between two of them. Go figure there are people like me looking for info... there's a niche for every crazy lover of ____ (fill in the blank) out there.

[tofumonkey]

well, for one thing, dogs is a man's best friend.
not to mention that dogs or cats are probably the most popular pets around.

so it makes sense. we all know someone who owns a dog (or even ourselves) that has a poorly trained dog. so we definitely need such a product right?

[Dan C. Rinnert]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

I think I'm going to write an ebook about how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Then, whenever I need an example of a niche product, I'll use "making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich" as my example, and have a link to the ebook. I'll sell it for $1, and people will buy it just because they simply cannot believe someone would write a book about that.

I made a virtual pet rock a long time ago as shareware for $1. I think someone may have actually sent me $1 for it.

Originally Posted by Joeman

My dog ate some money once... guess he wasnt trained well enough

My dog ate my dog training eBook.

[Matt Maiden]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

My favorite was always "FM1: The Army".

You know, in case you still don't know what it is.

LOL I forgot about that one.

Dan, do you still have any virtual pet rocks left?

We should all get together and start a thread on bad or crazy ideas and then compile them into an ebook called "Warrior Ideas Gone Wild vol. 1"

Matt

[Dan C. Rinnert]

Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden

Dan, do you still have any virtual pet rocks left?

Probably, but I don't know if they're PC-compatible.

[jasonl70]

Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden

When I was in the Army many many moons ago, we had an 8 page booklet explaining how to use a pair of pliers.

Think I'm going to start looking for Army Surplus stores

Matt

I was at an Army facility, and taped to the bathroom wall were instructions (with illustrations) on how to properly use and throw away the paper towels! Us Air force guys got a real kick out of it

[Ryan700]

Originally Posted by jasonl70

I was at an Army facility, and taped to the bathroom wall were instructions (with illustrations) on how to properly use and throw away the paper towels! Us Air force guys got a real kick out of it

They had to. Those paper towels cost $5 each. They didn't want you wasting them, with what they were spending on hammers - about $700 each IIRC. Lol!

[hommi_16]

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

Okay, supplementary question. Has anyone actually ever made money from any dog training niche?

The adsense in the dog training niche are no so great... at least for my site. I've had some moderate success promoting SitStayFetch know know as Secrets to Dog Training with little promotion.

Is, How to Let Your Cat Train You an effective niche? LOL.

[Kevin Riley]

I tend to use Poodle Grooming as a niche example. Also, woodworking - but that's my love for woodworking, and it's a big market full of examples.

[dsmpublishing]

It is just something simple that people can relate to and captures the imagination of lots of different people without just appealing to a small amount of people. I must confess i use it as an example myself from time to time.

sam
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[macD231]

It may be people like the dogs so much that they want to relate everything with it.People love to judge everything with there favorite one. That the human nature.

[pearlydean]

Frank Kern started off with a dog training product and he is hugely influential in the IM world. Also the phrase "Man's best friend" comes to mind!

I don't think anything is too old to promote - there are always new people coming online and not everyone has seen your emails, tweets, messages etc.

Cheers
Keith

[Rollover]

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Because people might assume a book on cat training would be to unbelievable to be real?

hehe thats true, I had the same question for a while lolz.

[pearlydean]

My two cats have got me very well trained!

If they want to go out and I am in the kitchen rather than using the cat flap they look at me, then the door handle....and like an idiot I open the door for them.

Oh well..

Cheers
Keith

[Regional Warrior]

Originally Posted by Steve Wisley

Funny I was just thinking about marketing a product in the dog training niche. Must be karma.
I believe there are several reasons for the example like several given above. But, the best answer is that the Goober's use it so this must be the correct one to use. And everyone keeps passing it along.

all good made the wrong post

[VegasVince]

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Because people might assume a book on cat training would be to unbelievable to be real?

LOL. Aint that the truth.

I rescued my cat Sophie....7 years ago from the local shelter....apx. 2 hours before she was headed to Death Row.....aka...Dead Cat Walkin.

Sweetest little cat in the word until I busted her out of the joint.....

The second we got home....the ungrateful little **** repays my random act of kindness by slapping three layers of skin off my hand for having the nerve to try and pet her!

She sleeps. She eats. And then she sleeps some more.

Not once has this mean little cat ever gone and fetched me the Sunday Paper.


xxx Vegas Vince
Legend.

[scraggz]

Originally Posted by kohuether

Is, How to Let Your Cat Train You an effective niche? LOL.

Nope, the cats have got it down pat! They don't need any help!

[Dan C. Rinnert]

Originally Posted by Ryan700

They had to. Those paper towels cost $5 each. They didn't want you wasting them, with what they were spending on hammers - about $700 each IIRC. Lol!

$7 went to buy the hammer. $693 went to the SR-91 Aurora.

[James12C]

Originally Posted by CDarklock

I think I'm going to write an ebook about how to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Then, whenever I need an example of a niche product, I'll use "making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich" as my example, and have a link to the ebook. I'll sell it for $1, and people will buy it just because they simply cannot believe someone would write a book about that.

Hmm - I just Googled that and found 900,000 pages!

Maybe I'll pass!

[Devon Brown]

Try using "potty training" next time you need an example and see how that goes.

[Spencer Haws]

I dont know. Its one of thousands of niches. I know Mark Ling uses it alot because he has one of the most successful Dog Training sites out there. Maybe everyone is copying him?? I recommend coming up with a different example; dog training is certainly not the most profitable.

[garyv]

It's also a cultural thing. Different cultures have different uses for dogs. It could have very well been a cook book. "101 Ways to Wok Your Dog".

[ricarde88]

Lol.....just one thought, have you ever wondered why its always 10:10 o' clock on watch ads. Rolex, Omega, etc. Actually its the whole world. Perhaps its a standard...just like the "dog training" issue as a standard for niche tutorials.. Just a theory. =P (a weird one!)

[IMChick]

Originally Posted by jasonl70

I was at an Army facility, and taped to the bathroom wall were instructions (with illustrations) on how to properly use and throw away the paper towels! Us Air force guys got a real kick out of it

Jason,
Thanks for the awesome tip for launching a million dollar IM publishing empire. that instruction book is government property. Government property= developed with your tax dollars. Public tax funding = automatic PUBLIC DOMAIN. Now, I don't know about you, but all of the bathrooms around here are missing a very important instruction and training manual...

Click here to send me $14.95 for the paper towel use instructions and the free bonus report.

That's a great story--LOL.

[Dan C. Rinnert]

Originally Posted by IMChick

Jason,
Thanks for the awesome tip for launching a million dollar IM publishing empire. that instruction book is government property. Government property= developed with your tax dollars. Public tax funding = automatic PUBLIC DOMAIN. Now, I don't know about you, but all of the bathrooms around here are missing a very important instruction and training manual...

Click here to send me $14.95 for the paper towel use instructions and the free bonus report.

That's a great story--LOL.

My "How to Use Paper Towels" digital guide is only $7, and includes instructions for properly recycling those paper towels, so it's green too, which makes it part of a hot niche! In fact, the free bonus report covers how to avoid using paper towels at all, which makes it even greener! First ten buyers can have their digital guide signed by A1 Gore!