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Niche Content Dillema

by bugzy
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Have you guys ever experienced this: You have found a very good niche that's not saturated yet, found a perfect domain name with keywords on it already set up the site, but can't find a writer who have knowledge on it?
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  • Profile picture of the author professorrosado
    Try the Warriors for hire section here on the Forum. I can understand why you don't mention the focus term. PM me and / or seek out particular writing savvy warriors and ask them directly.

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  • Profile picture of the author Work1099
    Perhaps hire someone who is willing to do the research necessary to gain knowledge on it. The price tag will likely be higher, but if it will still be profitable for you in the long-term, it may still be worth your while.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    I have to say: no.

    You should really make a firm business plan before setting up a website, or any online business. If it's an unusual niche, expect to pay higher prices for content.

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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Can't say I have.

    But then again, I don't pick either niches or domain names based on the output of some keyword tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I am a writer and have written material on lots of subjects I knew nothing about when I started. But a little research and I can quickly write content that reflects true knowledge. However, it's because I have been doing it for more than 5 years that I can do this efficiently.

    I am sure you can also find other writers who can do the same.
    Having said that, why would you choose a niche you know nothing about and build a business around it?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      Having said that, why would you choose a niche you know nothing about and build a business around it?
      Usually because some course or WSO instructs them to apply the results from [insert name of current hot keyword tool] and use a couple of mechanical rules to determine "easy" niches with lots of searches and low competition. Outdated courses and WSOs will then recommend getting an exact match domain name and building a site around it.
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  • Profile picture of the author obaynes
    Where are you looking for writers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    Why do you think a writer can't learn about your niche? That's part of a writer's job, hello...

    Plus, you say you don't know much about the niche, so how could you tell the difference between well researched material and poorly researched material?

    Just to give you a tip: you should choose a writer based on his writing ability and research ability, not by how much knowledge he has in the niche, unless you really have a lot of writers to choose from, which is rare.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Personally, I prefer the more saturated and highly competitive niches for content marketing, which avoids such a dilemma.

      Surely there are publications covering your niche. Consider contacting writers of relevant articles in those publications for republishing rights and/or paid articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    but can't find a writer who have knowledge on it?
    I am sure you can also find other writers who can do the same.
    I would sure think so. Look for someone who can research and write.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

      Plus, you say you don't know much about the niche, so how could you tell the difference between well researched material and poorly researched material?
      This ^^^^^^.

      Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

      Just to give you a tip: you should choose a writer based on his writing ability and research ability, not by how much knowledge he has in the niche, unless you really have a lot of writers to choose from, which is rare.
      Given your first statement, and the OP's confessed lack of knowledge, how would one judge the writer's abilities? Especially since most of the articles people hire out don't appear under the paid writer's byline?

      Better to choose a writer with chops in the general field you're considering, even if that field isn't an exact match for the topic at hand. You stand a much better chance of landing a writer with the research skills needed, given that, by definition, you don't know enough to judge those skills directly.
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  • Profile picture of the author bugzy
    If your niche is under chemical engineering, medical field or some other rare niche that involves lots of technacalities, yes a good writer + researcher can write general information about what it is, but when it comes to technicalities how would they even explain it? Yes they might, but your credibility is in the line here. You can't just publish an article without you validating if what he/she write is true or not, valid or misleading or it doesn't make any sense at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by bugzy View Post

      If your niche is under chemical engineering, medical field or some other rare niche that involves lots of technacalities, yes a good writer + researcher can write general information about what it is, but when it comes to technicalities how would they even explain it? Yes they might, but your credibility is in the line here. You can't just publish an article without you validating if what he/she write is true or not, valid or misleading or it doesn't make any sense at all.
      When I was freelancing I had two very big assignments and knew absolutely nothing about either one going in. One was writing sales copy for a complex software program. The other was writing promotional material for a solar energy startup company.

      By the time I was finished with both projects I would probably have been considered an expert. Both parties that hired me were long standing experts. Each commented that the stuff I wrote for them appeared to be authored by one of their own. The solar startup hired me for an additional pile of work after the first gig.

      That's what good writers do. They get it done. But this kind of writing doesn't come cheap.
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      • Profile picture of the author bugzy
        Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

        When I was freelancing I had two very big assignments and knew absolutely nothing about either one going in. One was writing sales copy for a complex software program. The other was writing promotional material for a solar energy startup company.

        By the time I was finished with both projects I would probably have been considered an expert. Both parties that hired me were long standing experts. Each commented that the stuff I wrote for them appeared to be authored by one of their own. The solar startup hired me for an additional pile of work after the first gig.

        That's what good writers do. They get it done. But this kind of writing doesn't come cheap.

        Did the company/person who hired you have knowledge on those niche? I'm guessing they didn't know it as well because they have hired someone to do a research and write an article for them. So what had became their basis to validate that your article is all truth and you just didn't invent it? Isn't that irresponsible blogging? I'm not saying that you invented it but I'm using you as a reference for this question.
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        • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
          Originally Posted by bugzy View Post

          Did the company/person who hired you have knowledge on those niche? I'm guessing they didn't know it as well because they have hired someone to do a research and write an article for them. So what had became their basis to validate that your article is all truth and you just didn't invent it? Isn't that irresponsible blogging? I'm not saying that you invented it but I'm using you as a reference for this question.
          Of course they were experts. Just because someone is an expert doesn't mean s/he can make a particular point in explaining something in writing. I know lots of really intelligent people that would find it tough explaining their work but when reading anything on the topic they certainly know how much others know.

          You're inventing problems that aren't there.
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          • Profile picture of the author bugzy
            Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

            Of course they were experts. Just because someone is an expert doesn't mean s/he can make a particular point in explaining something in writing. I know lots of really intelligent people that would find it tough explaining their work but when reading anything on the topic they certainly know how much others know.

            You're inventing problems that aren't there.
            So how would you defend my case then? If someone write an article for me about a niche on "how to make a rocket 101" and told me he could research something about it, how could I even verify if what he will write is true or not if I myself doesn't have personal knowledge on it? Can I just be irresponsible and just publish it? Isn't that a problem to begin with?
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            • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
              Originally Posted by bugzy View Post

              So how would you defend my case then? If someone write an article for me about a niche on "how to make a rocket 101" and told me he could research something about it, how could I even verify if what he will write is true or not if I myself doesn't have personal knowledge on it? Can I just be irresponsible and just publish it? Isn't that a problem to begin with?
              You first check his credentials as a writer. Look for testimonials. Then you take what he's written and hire someone that is an expert to go over it. If the hired expert says the material is accurate then what you pay him to verify the work is money well spent. Now you can trust the person you originally hired and have him write more if you need it.

              You could also hire someone with a background in rocketry and insist s/he shows you credentials proving he's an expert.

              Dude, this kind of thing goes on every single day. People hire experts all the time. But again, you're going to have to pay some serious money for this kind of writing. I got just over $.25 per word for the solar energy gig, which was over 8000 words.
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              • Profile picture of the author bugzy
                Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

                You first check his credentials as a writer. Look for testimonials. Then you take what he's written and hire someone that is an expert to go over it. If the hired expert says the material is accurate then what you pay him to verify the work is money well spent. Now you can trust the person you originally hired and have him write more if you need it.

                You could also hire someone with a background in rocketry and insist s/he shows you credentials proving he's an expert.

                Dude, this kind of thing goes on every single day. People hire experts all the time. But again, you're going to have to pay some serious money for this kind of writing. I got just over $.25 per word for the solar energy gig, which was over 8000 words.
                Alright. Thank for your for input.

                So it means now that the deeper you go in to a niche means the harder and more expensive it will be for you compared to a general subject/niche which is more easy to find a writer content wise.
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                • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
                  Originally Posted by bugzy View Post

                  Alright. Thank for your for input.

                  So it means now that the deeper you go in to a niche means the harder and more expensive it will be for you compared to a general subject/niche which is more easy to find a writer content wise.
                  Yes. If you want someone to write about long tail keywords or driving targeted traffic or creating salable info products there are thousands of people that can do a decent job.

                  But when you want something highly specialized you'll be shopping in a fairly narrow field of candidates. Supply and demand comes into play. The fewer the number of qualified writers, the higher the price. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by bugzy View Post

      If your niche is under chemical engineering, medical field or some other rare niche that involves lots of technacalities, yes a good writer + researcher can write general information about what it is, but when it comes to technicalities how would they even explain it? Yes they might, but your credibility is in the line here. You can't just publish an article without you validating if what he/she write is true or not, valid or misleading or it doesn't make any sense at all.
      Those type of niches really aren't "rare" at all. Quite the contrary. You need to specify credentials when searching for writers in fields that require specialized training. Consider contacting some of the writers in relevant trade publications or local undergrad/graduate university students majoring in the specialty you are targeting. But, as mentioned previously, this kind of writing ain't cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author SIDoss
    Warrior Forum is a great place to find quality writers. Cheap, Fast and Quality articles.

    Suarez
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Finding a writer is easy. Why don't YOU become the writer? How many pages do you want your product to be? 100+ pages? If you want 100-pages, just do 10 pages a day, and you'll be done within the next 10 days. Or outsource it... and risk the final product being filled with grammatical errors that YOU have to go back and fix. By the time you're done doing this, you might as well have written the product yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Umee Social Network
    This is tough. If you are planning on trying to make money on something by creating a new website, your best bet is to have something already scoped out. You should plan on what you are trying to do with that website and learn the information behind it. If you don't know your own business then you won't really know how to make it successful. Some guy can do research all day long and write articles, doesn't mean the site is going to be profitable. Anything you go into should have care and knowledge already backed into so you can find the right person to help... Just my two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author KayeMariz
    Find a writer for the specific niche. You can find a lot from the Warriors for Hire section. I am a writer myself. Starting out is never easy but then reading and researching really helps. Send me a message if you have the same problems until now. Maybe I can help you out.
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