Another Newbie Question - Looking for Direction

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Dear respected Warriors,

please apologize in advance for what I am pretty sure is a painfully newbie-type of question, you guys have heard endless times before, though I believe to get experienced advice at this point, would be the best:

About Me: I am a 35 year old Project-Manager from Munich, Germany working for an international corporation. I have management experience and even though I have been quite successful in my career, have gone to a 3-day-workweek recently in order to achieve my dream, which is to:
- Have my own business, making my own decisions, reaping the outputs of my inputs thus making more money than now (5.000 EUR / Month after taxes being my end-goal).
- Becoming location independent in order to facilitate travel together with my girlfriend as fast as possible.
- While unfortunately having only limited means for set-up investments at the moment.
- Only superficial knowledge in IM.
- My current goal would be to facilitate this by: Making 2.000 € / Month after taxes until Spring 2015.


I have been going through the vast content on this forum to identify the best means for setting myself up, as quickly as possible and to be honest I am completely overwhelmed. CPC, CPA, Affiliating, AMAZON FBA, Kindling, there is just so many options and so many pathways, a lot of them - to be honest most of them - sounding like suspicious get rich quick schemes. Knowing that to focus on one specific thing will be a key success factor in what I am trying to achieve, I am looking for two points of advice:

- Is my goal realistic from your perspective or would you recommend adjusting it to allow more time?
- Considering my profile is there any recommendation you could provide me with, which direction to go to?


Let me tell you that your support would be highly appreciated and while I am fully aware this might be coming across as asking to be spoon-feed, l am at a point, where I am awfully close to analysis paralysis due to being overwhelmed by all this content.

Any further points I can contribute, I would be happy to!

Thanks!

Boris
#direction #newbie #question
  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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    Hi,

    Add a link to your warrior forum signature.
    Put up a simple wordpress blog.
    Add basic social media accounts, like facebook, linkedin, etc.
    Find a comprehensive wso starter course on a subject, say info product creation and selling. Follow it. Do it. Then you'll know whether you like it and are decent enough at it, to keep doing it. This will also help you decide what you like to do best. The only way I've learned to decide what to do is by having tried several methods.
    You just have to explore yourself, and personally discover what you like and what you don't like. Then, with time, you'll find your niche, that you prefer.
    So you just have to start somewhere, and begin to eliminate what doesn't fit for you.
    It's a personal process of doing something that leads to discovering your internal voice and personally comfortable niche/method for creating residual income.

    Also, a mentor can be good. Someone to check in with regularly to keep you on track and moving. Lots of good coaching/mentoring offers here on the forum.

    Finally, keep a long term perspective. Look at 2015 as a learning and growth year. What skills do you want to develop this year? What methods will you start with? Where would you like to be in 2-3 years from now? It's takes time and commitment to develop an online biz. Don't be fooled into thinking that a few weeks is enough.

    Best of luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt View Post

      Hi,

      Add a link to your warrior forum signature.
      Put up a simple wordpress blog.
      Add basic social media accounts, like facebook, linkedin, etc.
      Find a comprehensive wso starter course on a subject, say info product creation and selling. Follow it. Do it. Then you'll know whether you like it and are decent enough at it, to keep doing it. This will also help you decide what you like to do best. The only way I've learned to decide what to do is by having tried several methods.
      You just have to explore yourself, and personally discover what you like and what you don't like. Then, with time, you'll find your niche, that you prefer.
      So you just have to start somewhere, and begin to eliminate what doesn't fit for you.
      It's a personal process of doing something that leads to discovering your internal voice and personally comfortable niche/method for creating residual income.

      Also, a mentor can be good. Someone to check in with regularly to keep you on track and moving. Lots of good coaching/mentoring offers here on the forum.

      Finally, keep a long term perspective. Look at 2015 as a learning and growth year. What skills do you want to develop this year? What methods will you start with? Where would you like to be in 2-3 years from now? It's takes time and commitment to develop an online biz. Don't be fooled into thinking that a few weeks is enough.

      Best of luck.
      Thank you, Jeff! My takeaway is to immerse myself in one reasonably looking approach 100% until feel comfortable to realistically be able asess results. With respect to my Goals for 2015 I would define those as such:

      1. Positive Reference Experiences (read: Traction)
      2. Become Location Independent.
      3. Find methodology / process which best incorporates my strenghts and preferences.

      Some guidance will be definitely required, in particular since I have a website running, I am clueless how to (read: afraid of) to promote.
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    • Profile picture of the author stevet563
      Good advice Jeff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by boristheblade79 View Post

    Is my goal realistic from your perspective
    From my perspective, not quite: the time-period is a bit too short; on a brighter note, the income target is also probably a bit too low.

    That's my perspective only because it's what happened to me. I earned nothing for my first 4 months, but after another 2 months I was earning significantly more than your target. But that was mostly about the business model I adopted (which suited my own existing skill-set) and all the mistakes I made (because I knew nothing about internet marketing and had failed to appreciate that most "forum information" is misguided and misleading, let alone to understand why that's so).

    Here's the point: asking people if they think your target is realistic is of value to you only when you collate the responses from people setting out with more or less the same business model as yourself. But you haven't chosen a business model yet. So be careful interpreting the replies! That's not a criticism at all - it's just a reality-based observation.

    Originally Posted by boristheblade79 View Post

    please apologize in advance for what I am pretty sure is a painfully newbie-type of question, you guys have heard endless times before
    You've asked it rather more articulately, and given a little more information, than many people do, anyway. (But that doesn't necessarily make it any easier to answer helpfully and constructively!).

    Originally Posted by boristheblade79 View Post

    Becoming location independent in order to facilitate travel together with my girlfriend as fast as possible.
    Becoming location-independent, once you're reached your income-target, has almost nothing to do with your IM business and almost everything to do with the other factors in your life, of which we know nothing.

    Most IM businesses are themselves, in principle, "location-independent".

    It's their owners who may or may not be.

    (Again, just from my own perspective, my business and I could have been 100% location-independent right from the day I graduated from college, apart from the limitations imposed by my increasing dependence on medical facilities/services.)

    Originally Posted by boristheblade79 View Post

    While unfortunately having only limited means for set-up investments at the moment.
    That doesn't matter. It limits your choice of business models, of course, but it still leaves you plenty of choice.

    The financial entry-barriers to a successful IM business are astonishingly low. But the skills/education entry-barriers aren't, at all!

    I set up my entire business for about $60, and (although I didn't know this at the time and am saying it "only with hindsight") there was never a point at which having any more investment capital available would have made any of my income any faster, bigger, better, more secure, more reliable or more rapidly-growing. (That wouldn't be true for someone intending to use - for example - pay-per-click advertising as their major traffic-generation plan. But I didn't.)

    Originally Posted by boristheblade79 View Post

    Only superficial knowledge in IM.
    That's the issue here, it seems to me. You have a big learning-curve ahead of you, to increase your success-chances. And perhaps even to understand enough to be able to select a business model.

    It's not about "taking action". It's about setting off in the right direction, and that requires learning.

    Originally Posted by boristheblade79 View Post

    there is just so many options and so many pathways, a lot of them – to be honest most of them – sounding like suspicious get rich quick schemes.
    Yes - all true.

    Well, start by excluding anything that resembles a get-rich-quick scheme. (You knew this already, right? ).

    Originally Posted by boristheblade79 View Post

    Considering my profile is there any recommendation you could provide me with, which direction to go to?
    No - I don't know nearly enough about you to be able to answer that helpfully, and neither can anyone else who replies. Again, an "observation" rather than a criticism.

    If it helps/interests you, here's what I do, myself ... I started doing it with less knowledge than you have, of IM (I know this because I'd never have been able to formulate a post like yours, above, when I started), but I did have writing skills before I started, and that was very helpful to me: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9267905

    You're also fluent in two widely-spoken languages, I think? That might be a big help, too.

    Good luck!


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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Thank you Alexa! So much valueable Information contained in your reply, very grateful.

      My takeaways are:

      1. Action is only valueable if combined with directed focus.
      2. What I am looking for is possible, even though it might demand a little more Patience, than what I was hoping for. This, would not really be an issue, as long as I have a realistic goal to aim for.
      3. Use your brain when interpreting answers and keep in mind specifics about models, processes and individual capabilities. I think, I can do that.
      4. Be ready to fail. I read your post on this and it's amazingly helpful.
      5. Learn fast.

      Good news is that while I would consider my knowledge in IM basic at best, I used to be responsible for a Team of web-developers in my former Job, so my technical skills around online are probably significantly above average. Plus, probably ashamed to admit I do have a website online, though have been too stupid, too afraid and too overwhelmed to start Marketing it.

      Again, thanks!


      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      From my perspective, not quite: the time-period is a bit too short; on a brighter note, the income target is also probably a bit too low.

      That's my perspective only because it's what happened to me. I earned nothing for my first 4 months, but after another 2 months I was earning significantly more than your target. But that was mostly about the business model I adopted (which suited my own existing skill-set) and all the mistakes I made (because I knew nothing about internet marketing and had failed to appreciate that most "forum information" is misguided and misleading, let alone to understand why that's so).

      Here's the point: asking people if they think your target is realistic is of value to you only when you collate the responses from people setting out with more or less the same business model as yourself. But you haven't chosen a business model yet. So be careful interpreting the replies! That's not a criticism at all - it's just a reality-based observation.



      You've asked it rather more articulately, and given a little more information, than many people do, anyway. (But that doesn't necessarily make it any easier to answer helpfully and constructively!).



      Becoming location-independent, once you're reached your income-target, has almost nothing to do with your IM business and almost everything to do with the other factors in your life, of which we know nothing.

      Most IM businesses are themselves, in principle, "location-independent".

      It's their owners who may or may not be.

      (Again, just from my own perspective, my business and I could have been 100% location-independent right from the day I graduated from college, apart from the limitations imposed by my increasing dependence on medical facilities/services.)



      That doesn't matter. It limits your choice of business models, of course, but it still leaves you plenty of choice.

      The financial entry-barriers to a successful IM business are astonishingly low. But the skills/education entry-barriers aren't, at all!

      I set up my entire business for about $60, and (although I didn't know this at the time and am saying it "only with hindsight") there was never a point at which having any more investment capital available would have made any of my income any faster, bigger, better, more secure, more reliable or more rapidly-growing. (That wouldn't be true for someone intending to use - for example - pay-per-click advertising as their major traffic-generation plan. But I didn't.)



      That's the issue here, it seems to me. You have a big learning-curve ahead of you, to increase your success-chances. And perhaps even to understand enough to be able to select a business model.

      It's not about "taking action". It's about setting off in the right direction, and that requires learning.



      Yes - all true.

      Well, start by excluding anything that resembles a get-rich-quick scheme. (You knew this already, right? ).



      No - I don't know nearly enough about you to be able to answer that helpfully, and neither can anyone else who replies. Again, an "observation" rather than a criticism.

      If it helps/interests you, here's what I do, myself ... I started doing it with less knowledge than you have, of IM (I know this because I'd never have been able to formulate a post like yours, above, when I started), but I did have writing skills before I started, and that was very helpful to me: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9267905

      You're also fluent in two widely-spoken languages, I think? That might be a big help, too.

      Good luck!


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  • Profile picture of the author Carter Boatright
    I think your goal is realistic simply because I've achieved it in about that amount of time doing affiliate stuff. However, I had already had quite a bit of knowledge and technical skills at the time.

    You just need to pick something that you know for a fact works and will get results and focus on that each day.

    The beginning is always tough and seems slow, but you have to stick with the plan and crush any roadblocks that come your way.
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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Thank you Carter!

      Given my background in web-development I do have some technical skills, so if I Interpret your answer correctly, there's all reason to be optimistic and confident. Which is awesome.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mrvm2
        Hi Boris

        I left a good job years ago and now travel the world with a laptop so i think we are very much alike in our thinking and goals.

        I run PPC ( Pay Per Click ) financial campaigns.

        If you want help i can mentor you as we mentor lots of affiliates but it obviously takes work from your side.

        Mail me at mrvm@sky.com if you wish to take it further. If not good luck and go for it , follow your dreams as life is not a rehearsal.

        G
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Hi Boris,

    Based on your experience, you actually have a wealth of options here. It's one of those situations where I hardly know which one to recommend, since so many are appropriate. However, given the mentioned areas of interest, I believe I can give you some relevant direction.

    Home Business Possibilities:

    1. Product Creation.
    2. Video Marketing.
    3. Domain Flipping.

    I could list more, but I would only inundate you with ideas. In your shoes, I would seriously consider combining the 3. Do so and your financial goals are easily achievable.

    What I'd suggest you do at this point, after having weighed up the possibilities given to you by other members here, is devote a little time to overview the suggestions. The implication being: don't jump in right away. Once you feel you have, I would say, 2 to 3 areas of interest, I would dedicate yourself to learning them, putting together a business plan, and taking action.

    I'm a firm believer in not putting all of my eggs in the one basket. So, while concentrating on one method alone is sound advice generally, I do prefer to devote my energies to more than one business at a time. In my current situation, this has lead to me having a team, but to manage 2 to 3 endeavours, you can do this without any assistance for now.

    Whatever you choose to do, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post and I wish you every success.

    GRM
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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      From my perspective, not quite: the time-period is a bit too short; on a brighter note, the income target is also probably a bit too low.

      That's my perspective only because it's what happened to me. I earned nothing for my first 4 months, but after another 2 months I was earning significantly more than your target. But that was mostly about the business model I adopted (which suited my own existing skill-set) and all the mistakes I made (because I knew nothing about internet marketing and had failed to appreciate that most "forum information" is misguided and misleading, let alone to understand why that's so).

      Here's the point: asking people if they think your target is realistic is of value to you only when you collate the responses from people setting out with more or less the same business model as yourself. But you haven't chosen a business model yet. So be careful interpreting the replies! That's not a criticism at all - it's just a reality-based observation.



      You've asked it rather more articulately, and given a little more information, than many people do, anyway. (But that doesn't necessarily make it any easier to answer helpfully and constructively!).



      Becoming location-independent, once you're reached your income-target, has almost nothing to do with your IM business and almost everything to do with the other factors in your life, of which we know nothing.

      Most IM businesses are themselves, in principle, "location-independent".

      It's their owners who may or may not be.

      (Again, just from my own perspective, my business and I could have been 100% location-independent right from the day I graduated from college, apart from the limitations imposed by my increasing dependence on medical facilities/services.)



      That doesn't matter. It limits your choice of business models, of course, but it still leaves you plenty of choice.

      The financial entry-barriers to a successful IM business are astonishingly low. But the skills/education entry-barriers aren't, at all!

      I set up my entire business for about $60, and (although I didn't know this at the time and am saying it "only with hindsight") there was never a point at which having any more investment capital available would have made any of my income any faster, bigger, better, more secure, more reliable or more rapidly-growing. (That wouldn't be true for someone intending to use - for example - pay-per-click advertising as their major traffic-generation plan. But I didn't.)



      That's the issue here, it seems to me. You have a big learning-curve ahead of you, to increase your success-chances. And perhaps even to understand enough to be able to select a business model.

      It's not about "taking action". It's about setting off in the right direction, and that requires learning.



      Yes - all true.

      Well, start by excluding anything that resembles a get-rich-quick scheme. (You knew this already, right? ).



      No - I don't know nearly enough about you to be able to answer that helpfully, and neither can anyone else who replies. Again, an "observation" rather than a criticism.

      If it helps/interests you, here's what I do, myself ... I started doing it with less knowledge than you have, of IM (I know this because I'd never have been able to formulate a post like yours, above, when I started), but I did have writing skills before I started, and that was very helpful to me: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9267905

      You're also fluent in two widely-spoken languages, I think? That might be a big help, too.

      Good luck!


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      Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post

      Hi Boris,

      Based on your experience, you actually have a wealth of options here. It's one of those situations where I hardly know which one to recommend, since so many are appropriate. However, given the mentioned areas of interest, I believe I can give you some relevant direction.

      Home Business Possibilities:

      1. Product Creation.
      2. Video Marketing.
      3. Domain Flipping.

      I could list more, but I would only inundate you with ideas. In your shoes, I would seriously consider combining the 3. Do so and your financial goals are easily achievable.

      What I'd suggest you do at this point, after having weighed up the possibilities given to you by other members here, is devote a little time to overview the suggestions. The implication being: don't jump in right away. Once you feel you have, I would say, 2 to 3 areas of interest, I would dedicate yourself to learning them, putting together a business plan, and taking action.

      I'm a firm believer in not putting all of my eggs in the one basket. So, while concentrating on one method alone is sound advice generally, I do prefer to devote my energies to more than one business at a time. In my current situation, this has lead to me having a team, but to manage 2 to 3 endeavours, you can do this without any assistance for now.

      Whatever you choose to do, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your post and I wish you every success.

      GRM
      Thank you 'GRM'! Very valueable insight.

      I will spend the next 7 days to get myself somewhat familiar with the key areas you mentioned and distill how they tie into the process I have now read multiple times: 1. Traffic. 2. List Building 3. Sales Funnel. I think this will put me in the position to get more systematic about my approach. Something - I only realize now - I have been neglecting in the recent past.

      It all is quite vague right now, however I can actually see myself (that's new!) lifting the fog. In general I've always been a little skeptical about just having one venture - at least long-term - as it would involve a significant risk of disruption. Your comments seem to tie into that. Thank you!
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  • Profile picture of the author 4thMarshall
    One thing's for sure: The formula is out here on Warrior Forum! Yes, there are some get rich quick schemes that do work! What if you had some $50,000 or more just to flip around? Your game would be riding a serious Horse-Power and You could be raking profits in a range close to the get rich quick schemes, so do not limit yourself! "If only you can magnify it, and you can systemize it, and you can satisfy it, then you can optimize it, then you can maximize it, and beautify it!" - Anonymous
    Change is fundamentally mathematics. I know personally know a few affiliates who rake in substantially per month! If only you're doing what they're doing! Just be sure you tried it, then you failed and KNEW WHY YOU FAILED. If you knew why you failed and there is a solution for it, then... It's been the golden formula for all the ages my friend... Don't be afraid to see failures after you take action, be afraid if there is no remedy for why you failed, which is less likely these days with Google... So put yourself to the test my friend... It's not about the money you invest or time you expend it's basically about what you do to you...
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by 4thMarshall View Post

      One thing's for sure: The formula is out here on Warrior Forum! Yes, there are some get rich quick schemes that do work! What if you had some $50,000 or more just to flip around? Your game would be riding a serious Horse-Power and You could be raking profits in a range close to the get rich quick schemes, so do not limit yourself! "If only you can magnify it, and you can systemize it, and you can satisfy it, then you can optimize it, then you can maximize it, and beautify it!" - Anonymous
      Change is fundamentally mathematics. I know personally know a few affiliates who rake in substantially per month! If only you're doing what they're doing! Just be sure you tried it, then you failed and KNEW WHY YOU FAILED. If you knew why you failed and there is a solution for it, then... It's been the golden formula for all the ages my friend... Don't be afraid to see failures after you take action, be afraid if there is no remedy for why you failed, which is less likely these days with Google... So put yourself to the test my friend... It's not about the money you invest or time you expend it's basically about what you do to you...
      Damn your posts make no sense and you add no value whatsoever but i admire your drive to get you links out there...
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

        Damn your posts make no sense whatsoever but i admire your drive to get you links out there...
        Indeed ... I agree unreservedly.

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      • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
        Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

        Damn your posts make no sense and you add no value whatsoever but i admire your drive to get you links out there...
        I feel almost embarassed to admit, from where I am at, I can easily extract some value out of this! :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Originally Posted by 4thMarshall View Post

      One thing's for sure: The formula is out here on Warrior Forum! Yes, there are some get rich quick schemes that do work! What if you had some $50,000 or more just to flip around? Your game would be riding a serious Horse-Power and You could be raking profits in a range close to the get rich quick schemes, so do not limit yourself! "If only you can magnify it, and you can systemize it, and you can satisfy it, then you can optimize it, then you can maximize it, and beautify it!" - Anonymous
      Change is fundamentally mathematics. I know personally know a few affiliates who rake in substantially per month! If only you're doing what they're doing! Just be sure you tried it, then you failed and KNEW WHY YOU FAILED. If you knew why you failed and there is a solution for it, then... It's been the golden formula for all the ages my friend... Don't be afraid to see failures after you take action, be afraid if there is no remedy for why you failed, which is less likely these days with Google... So put yourself to the test my friend... It's not about the money you invest or time you expend it's basically about what you do to you...
      Very inspiring. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
    Clarity is a HUGE part of IM success. I hope this post brings some clarity. It's so simple when you know it -- and darn difficult when you don't! I owe my mentors a world of thanks for bringing this clarity.

    IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

    1. Products
    2. Services

    That's it!

    And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

    Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

    That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

    But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

    A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

    1. Membership-based model

    A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

    There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

    2. Product-based model

    Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

    3. Service-based model

    Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

    However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

    What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

    The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

    Affiliate marketing falls under both models. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.

    Pick just ONE!

    1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

    2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

    3. Pick ONE business model.

    Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS! (And stop buying any info not related to your niche and target market, period!)

    F -- Follow
    O -- One
    C -- Course
    U -- Until
    S -- Successful


    And remember: build a list, Build a List, BUILD A LIST!

    In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

    Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

    If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

    That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business. (Buying a random bunch of $37 e-books doesn't count.)

    The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (It's no longer available.) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned (from the $37 e-books) since has simply been plugged into this system.

    My two best recommendations for phenomenal IM training programs are Ali Brown's Elevate program (ElevateBizTraining.com) and Jeff Walker's Product Launch Formula (ProductLaunchFormula.com)

    Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

    Hope this helps!

    Michelle
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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

      Clarity is a HUGE part of IM success. I hope this post brings some clarity. It's so simple when you know it -- and darn difficult when you don't! I owe my mentors a world of thanks for bringing this clarity.

      IM is actually pretty simple: you can sell only one of two things:

      1. Products
      2. Services

      That's it!

      And selling products or services online happens in the same basic way for everyone, no matter what they're selling:

      Traffic > Opt-in page > Autoresponder series (or e-zine) > Sales page

      That's it! It's just that simple. (We IMers tend to overcomplicate things.)

      But no matter what your niche is, or whether you're selling a product or a service, do you know what your business model is?

      A business model is the framework or skeleton of your business. Essentially there are three types of online business models:

      1. Membership-based model

      A membership-based business model allows you to build a community of people (your members) who are as passionate about your subject as you are. Your membership fees can be monthly or annual, but either way, you're building recurring, passive income.

      There are a lot of resources and information out there to help you build a membership-based business if you're interested in doing this.

      2. Product-based model

      Selling products allows you to maximize your time and effort by selling items over and over again. This can be hard goods or it can be information products. Information marketing is it's own business model under the product-based model. Information marketing allows you to take your brain to the bank by creating a product ONCE based on what you know and selling it over and over again.

      3. Service-based model

      Selling services can be great for 1) generating quick cash (as in the case of article writing or video producing) and 2) establishing your expertise and getting testimonials.

      However, in the long run, your goal should be to offer services at a PREMIUM. The biggest advantage of IM is LEVERAGE. You're able to leverage your time, money and expertise exponentially online. We all have just 24 hours each day. Time to get ruthless about what you expect for those hours you spend in IM each day. Expect more of yourself and more from your business friends, clients, partners, etc.

      What results are you getting for those hours you spend online each day? Ultimately, your services should be at the bottom of your funnel and cost the most since they involve your time and personal attention. (We all have a limited amount of time each day.)

      The fun (and confusion) comes in with all of the endless mix-and-match possibilities of the above models. If you're just starting or still struggling to make money, keep it simple:

      Affiliate marketing falls under both models. You can choose to market either products or services as an affiliate.

      Pick just ONE!

      1. Pick ONE niche. (Something you're interested in and know something about.)

      2. Pick ONE target market for your product or service. (Who will buy what you're offering? The more specific you are, the more you narrow it down, the more successful you'll be.)

      3. Pick ONE business model.

      Now that you're clear about what business you're in, FOCUS! (And stop buying any info not related to your niche and target market, period!)

      F -- Follow
      O -- One
      C -- Course
      U -- Until
      S -- Successful

      And remember: build a list, Build a List, BUILD A LIST!

      In IM, it's easy to put the cart before the horse. Take a deep breath, step back and consider what type of business you REALLY want. Don't worry about getting traffic or buying that expensive traffic product until you know 1) what your business model is, 2) what niche you're in and 3) WHO your target market is!

      Successful business people will tell you that MARKETING is more than half the effort that's needed for success anyway. So pick a niche, target market and business model. Then spend most of your time and effort marketing it.

      If you DON'T have a solid plan or system, THAT'S when it's hard. A good system will shave YEARS (and save you big $$$) off of your learning curve

      That's why I recommend investing in at least one good, comprehensive IM course (or mentor who will give you such a system) instead of jumping from one $37 e-book to the next. A lot of people here complain about not being able to make any money. But neither are they willing to invest in their business. (Buying a random bunch of $37 e-books doesn't count.)

      The best thing I ever did was invest in a comprehensive IM course aimed at REAL business owners, not just other IM wannabes. Yes it was $1500. (It's no longer available.) But it was truly some of the best A-Z IM info I ever bought. Everything else I've learned (from the $37 e-books) since has simply been plugged into this system.

      My two best recommendations for phenomenal IM training programs are Ali Brown's Elevate program (ElevateBizTraining.com) and Jeff Walker's Product Launch Formula (ProductLaunchFormula.com)

      Get a solid plan or system and then work the plan!

      Hope this helps!

      Michelle

      Thank you very much Michelle, so much value here. I actually could kick myself for not asking for some advice earlier. I am a - almost pathological - Systems oriented Person, so it helps immensly to have some general strokes to go by and evaluate all the content that's out there. My main focus right now is to gain positive reference experiences. To achieve this without a system and at least limited in Person guidance seems unnecessarily difficult to me, hence I will engage in doing exactly that shortly.

      This is true, even more so, given I do have what I think product-based-business model already online, though have been hitting my head against a glass wall with respect to generating leads and actual sales out of it. Probably it's because of that, I did not even see any value in mentioning it.
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  • Its simple concept really:

    Supply and demand!

    Build your list to provide more supply to their demand and build brand/authority relationship.

    Start taking action by setting up a domain, hosting and autoresponder.

    From there you can do affiliate marketing, cpa, cpl, networking, build a store etc (hundreds of ways)

    Pick a niche and focus on giving value to people and build your brand authority.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Tandan
    Hi and thanks for your question. In order to achieve your realistic income goals in as short a time frame as possible, I'd make one suggestion.

    Get a coach.

    I'm not one and am not offering these services. But I've used one and it was the best decision I ever made. Almost overnight you'll achieve focus and be taking action on the things that it will take to move you towards your goals.

    Best wishes,
    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    That's definately a goal that can be achieved in tha amount of time, but you shouldn't fall in the trap of trying to do a dozen things in order to achieve that.

    Just make sure you focus on one method and stick to the basics:
    -> Build an email list
    -> Learn how to set up a sales funnel
    -> Learn how to drive targeted traffic to your sales funnel
    -> Test, test and test some more...

    These are the basics which haven't really changed a lot, so if you can master these things you're well on your way to achieve your goal.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Originally Posted by JensSteyaert View Post

      That's definately a goal that can be achieved in tha amount of time, but you shouldn't fall in the trap of trying to do a dozen things in order to achieve that.

      Just make sure you focus on one method and stick to the basics:
      -> Build an email list
      -> Learn how to set up a sales funnel
      -> Learn how to drive targeted traffic to your sales funnel
      -> Test, test and test some more...

      These are the basics which haven't really changed a lot, so if you can master these things you're well on your way to achieve your goal.

      Good luck!
      Sweet! Thank you! It's quite refreshing to actually see all of the different methods, processes and Systems summarized to such a common denominator. A lot easier to work by. At least for me that is ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Travis Sheppard
    Originally Posted by boristheblade79 View Post

    Dear respected Warriors,

    please apologize in advance for what I am pretty sure is a painfully newbie-type of question, you guys have heard endless times before, though I believe to get experienced advice at this point, would be the best:

    About Me: I am a 35 year old Project-Manager from Munich, Germany working for an international corporation. I have management experience and even though I have been quite successful in my career, have gone to a 3-day-workweek recently in order to achieve my dream, which is to:
    - Have my own business, making my own decisions, reaping the outputs of my inputs thus making more money than now (5.000 EUR / Month after taxes being my end-goal).
    - Becoming location independent in order to facilitate travel together with my girlfriend as fast as possible.
    - While unfortunately having only limited means for set-up investments at the moment.
    - Only superficial knowledge in IM.
    - My current goal would be to facilitate this by: Making 2.000 € / Month after taxes until Spring 2015.


    I have been going through the vast content on this forum to identify the best means for setting myself up, as quickly as possible and to be honest I am completely overwhelmed. CPC, CPA, Affiliating, AMAZON FBA, Kindling, there is just so many options and so many pathways, a lot of them - to be honest most of them - sounding like suspicious get rich quick schemes. Knowing that to focus on one specific thing will be a key success factor in what I am trying to achieve, I am looking for two points of advice:

    - Is my goal realistic from your perspective or would you recommend adjusting it to allow more time?
    - Considering my profile is there any recommendation you could provide me with, which direction to go to?


    Let me tell you that your support would be highly appreciated and while I am fully aware this might be coming across as asking to be spoon-feed, l am at a point, where I am awfully close to analysis paralysis due to being overwhelmed by all this content.

    Any further points I can contribute, I would be happy to!

    Thanks!

    Boris
    I am looking for two points of advice:

    - Is my goal realistic from your perspective or would you recommend adjusting it to allow more time?
    - Considering my profile is there any recommendation you could provide me with, which direction to go to?

    I think your goals are very realistic. You will have to put in real work to get there but completely do able.

    I think the best bet is to get a mentor. Someone that is getting the results you want and model after them and follow their lead. This will help you with analysis paralysis because you are following someone who is getting results.

    The last thing is picking one traffic method and stick with it until you are getting some results. Then add more traffic sources as you go
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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Originally Posted by Travis Sheppard View Post

      I am looking for two points of advice:

      - Is my goal realistic from your perspective or would you recommend adjusting it to allow more time?
      - Considering my profile is there any recommendation you could provide me with, which direction to go to?

      I think your goals are very realistic. You will have to put in real work to get there but completely do able.

      I think the best bet is to get a mentor. Someone that is getting the results you want and model after them and follow their lead. This will help you with analysis paralysis because you are following someone who is getting results.

      The last thing is picking one traffic method and stick with it until you are getting some results. Then add more traffic sources as you go
      Thank you for your Feedback!

      Alone based on the replies I have had the privilege of receiving here, it's becoming very clear to me, that what I have been missing is some guidance and direction. I think I have a functioning brain, as well as the willingness and ability to invest time, though it's all been in the dark up to this point.

      This is why statements like yours on the general possibility of achieving a lofty goal like mine are of extreme value to me. They help me in discarding the Notion that my dream might be nothing than an urban myth.
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    • Profile picture of the author boristheblade79
      Originally Posted by Travis Sheppard View Post

      I am looking for two points of advice:

      - Is my goal realistic from your perspective or would you recommend adjusting it to allow more time?
      - Considering my profile is there any recommendation you could provide me with, which direction to go to?

      I think your goals are very realistic. You will have to put in real work to get there but completely do able.

      I think the best bet is to get a mentor. Someone that is getting the results you want and model after them and follow their lead. This will help you with analysis paralysis because you are following someone who is getting results.

      The last thing is picking one traffic method and stick with it until you are getting some results. Then add more traffic sources as you go
      Thank you Travis!

      My takeaways are:
      1. Get some guidance.You absolutely nailed this one for me.
      2. Stick with it until you see results, roadblacks are nature of the beast.

      In the back of my mind (3. scale up) ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Dec Mc
    I would advise as has been said before , that to get you focused in this game you need a mentor ! Even the big Gurus have coaches , so to be honest this is Really the best way to go !
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffs89
    If you're looking for a consistent income, Internet marketing is definitely something you want to avoid. You need to have a steady job until to support you while doing this. It's not a guaranteed way to make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Donavan
      By far, the quickest and easiest way to make money online is to create and sell your own info product. Period.

      Took me years to learn this.

      Then...

      You build a squeeze page, buy some solo ads from well-researched solo ad vendors with QUALITY lists, get 'em into your autoresponder, build a relationship with them (while selling to them at the same time) so they KNOW, LIKE, and TRUST you and, in no time, you'll be more successful than you can possibly imagine!

      As far as the daunting task (actually it's a LOT easier than you think) of creating your own info product, with ease, in no time flat, just search this forum for "product creation" and a you'll find several teachers you can learn from.

      Also, for me personally, it was Jason Fladlien's 48 hour product creation master class from a couple years ago, that took me to the next level. Best $497 I ever spent!

      Mike
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      • Originally Posted by Michael Donavan View Post

        By far, the quickest and easiest way to make money online is to create and sell your own info product. Period.

        Took me years to learn this.

        Then...

        You build a squeeze page, buy some solo ads from well-researched solo ad vendors with QUALITY lists, get 'em into your autoresponder, build a relationship with them (while selling to them at the same time) so they KNOW, LIKE, and TRUST you and, in no time, you'll be more successful than you can possibly imagine!

        As far as the daunting task (actually it's a LOT easier than you think) of creating your own info product, with ease, in no time flat, just search this forum for "product creation" and a you'll find several teachers you can learn from.

        Also, for me personally, it was Jason Fladlien's 48 hour product creation master class from a couple years ago, that took me to the next level. Best $497 I ever spent!

        Mike

        That is really a dart in the center of the center Mike!

        If a person creates their own product there are so many ways to win and really there is no fail....only learning.

        Everything you need to know to sell an ebook is exactly the marketing you need to grown a successful business online.

        You will give your self a crash course in copy writing, titles, finding a hungry market, pre sales, affiliate recruiting, social media lead generation, listbuilding on and one.

        These are all ever green skills that pay the bills!

        And when Mike said easy....wait until your 2nd product!!! Now you have a list that already knows and trust you and you have got them all warmed up for your new product and all you have to do is press the send button. Sale after sale comes in... Best feeling in the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    By far, the quickest and easiest way to make money online is to create and sell your own info product. Period.
    Not even close to true.
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