My noob strategy...input/advice much appreciated!

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Well I've done some bum marketing research and I think I'm about ready to finally take some ACTION. As you can see I'm a total newbie, so I'm trying to come up with a simple way to get started in IM. Here's what I've come up with from the different things I've read so far.......I would love to hear from anybody more experienced that wants to share their thoughts on this.

1. Choose 5 ebooks on Clickbank from 5 different niches

2. For each ebook, come up with 30 long tail keywords and write 30 articles (SEO optimized of course!)

3. Post articles on GoArticles with direct links to sales pages.

4. See which niches are doing well, then concentrate on those and write more articles, create a killer landing page or blog, then submit articles to Ezine articles.


Now I know some of you will probably say I should start off with a webpage and submit to Ezines right from the start.....but again, I'm brand new to IM and trying to jump in with the simplest way possible. I have no experience making a website OR blog, so I think just submitting to GoArticles first would be the quickest way to just get my feet wet and possibly make my first sales before I try to learn something new. Again, any input is appreciated, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author guptara
    How are you going to send the traffic to your articles?
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    • Profile picture of the author newBum76
      Originally Posted by guptara View Post

      How are you going to send the traffic to your articles?
      Well I would do some basic keyword reasearch, try to pick ones with high searches/low competition, put the keyword in the title, throw it in a few times in the article body.....hopefully that will get me in the top search results? That's pretty much all I know about SEO so far.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
        Originally Posted by newBum76 View Post

        Well I would do some basic keyword reasearch, try to pick ones with high searches/low competition, put the keyword in the title, throw it in a few times in the article body.....hopefully that will get me in the top search results? That's pretty much all I know about SEO so far.
        I think you'll be lucky to reach top spot just with articles 95% of the time. You'll need to backlink to your article to give it some juice with google particularly.

        Rich
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    Originally Posted by newBum76 View Post

    Well I've done some bum marketing research and I think I'm about ready to finally take some ACTION. As you can see I'm a total newbie, so I'm trying to come up with a simple way to get started in IM. Here's what I've come up with from the different things I've read so far.......I would love to hear from anybody more experienced that wants to share their thoughts on this.

    1. Choose 5 ebooks on Clickbank from 5 different niches

    2. For each ebook, come up with 30 long tail keywords and write 30 articles (SEO optimized of course!)

    3. Post articles on GoArticles with direct links to sales pages.

    4. See which niches are doing well, then concentrate on those and write more articles, create a killer landing page or blog, then submit articles to Ezine articles.


    Now I know some of you will probably say I should start off with a webpage and submit to Ezines right from the start.....but again, I'm brand new to IM and trying to jump in with the simplest way possible. I have no experience making a website OR blog, so I think just submitting to GoArticles first would be the quickest way to just get my feet wet and possibly make my first sales before I try to learn something new. Again, any input is appreciated, thanks!
    I'm not a big article marketer but I'd start with keyword research first. Find niches with traffic via wordtracker or google keywords too. I'd look for anything with 1000 global searches a month for 'exact' term. Then I'd go to google and check competition in google in quotes. Then have a look at clickbank for a product to fit. Good luck

    Rich
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    • Profile picture of the author genietoast
      Originally Posted by Richard Tunnah View Post

      I'm not a big article marketer but I'd start with keyword research first. Find niches with traffic via wordtracker or google keywords too. I'd look for anything with 1000 global searches a month for 'exact' term. Then I'd go to google and check competition in google in quotes. Then have a look at clickbank for a product to fit. Good luck

      Rich
      Just for clarification, on exact term searches, you said 1000 global searches a month. Is that 1000 global searches a month or more, or is it 1000 global searches a month or less?

      Then when you check Google for the competition in quotes, what kind of numbers are looking at that would make the article rankable? 20,000 to 50,000? 100,000 or more?
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      • Profile picture of the author edhan
        Yes. I do agree that you need to do your homework in research before undertaking those tasks you have mentioned. It will be pointless if your choices are not what people are looking for.

        Also, if it is a hot niche, then you will find yourself competing with highly optimized sites and gaining reward with it will be extremely slow.

        Therefore a good keywords research on niche you want will come as an important part for your success. For me, I will not choose one that is already highly competitive. I rather have the niche that is in the mid range so I can fully optimize the sales. Thereafter, you can do what you have said about writing articles constantly to direct your sale page.

        Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I agree with Rich - Picking a product first is the worst way to start. Do some research and find a market you can access and THEN find a suitable product that you know they'll need/want.
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    • Profile picture of the author newBum76
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      I agree with Rich - Picking a product first is the worst way to start. Do some research and find a market you can access and THEN find a suitable product that you know they'll need/want.

      I've actually read opposite advice in different bum marketing guides.....they say to make sure you have a good product first, THEN do the niche market research.

      So much conflicting advice, what's a noob to do?
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      • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Betinis
        Originally Posted by newBum76 View Post

        So much conflicting advice, what's a noob to do?
        I understand how you feel.


        But think about it this way...and simplify it in your mind:

        The old man walks into the restaurant and
        tells the waiter he wants a cheeseburger with fries.

        The waiter takes the order and gives
        the old man the cheeseburger and fries.

        The old man pays and is happy because
        he got what he wanted.


        The old man is the group of prospects in your niche.
        The cheeseburger and fries is the product.
        The waiter is you.


        Now hit the REWIND button in our restaurant example...

        The old man walks into the restaurant and you (the waiter)
        approach him.

        But before you even take his order
        you bring out a salad with anchovies
        for the old man when he sits down at the booth
        BEFORE even taking his order and actually finding
        out what he wants first.

        Does this make any sense doing it this way?

        Of course not.

        Find the market first. THEN find the product.

        In other words...

        Find out what they want first (keyword research)
        and THEN GIVE IT TO THEM!

        You're on the right track!


        P.S. Yes, you CAN rank on the first page
        by submitting only articles. I have
        many first page rankings without ANY
        backlinking to many of my articles.
        However, don't think you don't need to.
        I'm just saying it's DEFINITELY possible
        in my experience. It just really depends
        on the keyword and "what mood Google
        is in at the moment" (I'm serious).


        Originally Posted by newBum76 View Post

        So much conflicting advice, what's a noob to do?
        Listen, there is not ONLY ONE RIGHT WAY TO DO SOMETHING in IM.

        You can do whatever you want (not being cute).

        There are no hard and fast rules here.

        Yes, you can find a product first
        because generally a product is created
        only because there already IS a market for it,
        so I can see where IM'ers would say to find
        product first; however, whichever way makes
        the most sense in your brain is the way to go.

        So much of IM stuff is subjective. This is one of them.

        Nonetheless, I hope my restaurant example
        opened your eyes to which way makes the
        most sense to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    yeah, what he said

    The point may seem conflicting but here's why I say do the research first.

    It's MUCH harder to market a product than to have one to market.

    You can get pretty much anything to offer - having something is the easy bit.

    If you have a product and no traffic - you make no money.

    If you have traffic and no product - you find one or make one - you make money.

    If you pick the product first, you then need to find enough of a market to access and sell to them. If you find a hungry crowd first - they'll tell you what they want and you just find/make it and show them it. One way you struggle to convince people that they need what you have, the other way they're waiting in line for your product.

    Also, it means you're not wasting your time trying to get traffic that you can't convert.

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  • Profile picture of the author Gclunis
    Well you can download an ebook called the newbie workbook, thats where I got my start and Im going back to it right now to make sure I got everything right. As far as your method goes, from what I've read GOArticles doesnt usually rank very well, if someone posts something with the same topic in ezine as your go article, your probably gonna get beat. Try what everyone else is saying...do the keyword research first and find keywords that present a problem for example "golf problem, how to get a better gold swing" stuff like that that presents the problem that way anyone who finds ur page already knows they want to buy, you just have to get them to buy from you which is easier than convincing them to buy in the first place. Also in the make money section of the warrior forums there is a 7 day profit system that I suggest you try, I watched the videos and I learned alot of stuff that I am using in conjunction with the newbie workbook, however you can follow the 7 day profit system and it will basically teach u the basics to what you are going to need to do. Plus it is a proven system to follow. good luck and let us know how everything works once you decide to take action (most important part).

    ~G~

    you might also want to consider reading newbie nightmares (also in the make money section), after I read that report I was completely dedicated to figuring out what I had to and doing it immediately. Good Luck~
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