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My suggestion is that you can perhaps find the great topics/posts here in this Warrior Forum goldmine for him to learn. It being free is a bonus too. Let him learn first before taking action though, that's what I believe. Even if he learn the wrong things, its better to learn them then commit them! Especially when you're young: you absorb knowledge faster and more efficiently. Then when he is brimming with knowledge, then you allow him to start this game called Internet Marketing! |
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So all a 14 year old is good for is blogging now is it? I would put up a 14 year old IM starter against "adult" IM starter and back them to win every time. A teenager Mind is not full of the garbage and negative Mindset that prevents 97% "adults" from succeeding. | |
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You have an awesome kid that will most likely go very far in life if he keeps that mindset and attitude , cheers to you for raising him.
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Let him go for gaming and children toys niche. |
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Also if you would have actually read my post I said 14 year old is good for social networks. Which is not because he is 14 but because he probably has been using social networks a long time and with a little bit instructing how to maximize the effect he could achieve results really fast. P.S. Are you 14 or somewhere near it? | |
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I think you should give your kida little feel of the internet market first... adsense isn't a bad idea, most kids start with that, let him gradually learn and he will evolve on his own onto the next level
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There are business issues that I believe need an adult's supervision. My kids are pretty darn smart, but operating an online business requires an adult. Google Adsense Terms and Conditions: "By enrolling in the Program, You represent that You are at least 18 years of age" for example. Kids generally don't understand that they are required to pay taxes, they may not know when it's okay and when it's not to give out home address, bank account numbers, social security numbers, etc. They need to be taught about copyright laws (no, you can't just take pictures off Google and use them for your site) and need to be reminded of the serious nature of plagiarism. I believe many kids are much more tech savvy than the grown-ups around them, but if you're going to allow your child to have an internet business, then supervision is a must. Of course, as parents we all know the last part of the brain to develop is reason! |
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Your posts come across as grossly underestimating the abilities of teenagers in business, and especially IM business. I have three teenage boys so I speak from experience. Do you have any teenage children to qualify your views? In your original response you were sneering at the prospect of a 14 year old being able to run an IM business, and even now you are suggesting they need help to do the "grown up stuff". Well they don't I assure you. Bricks and mortar business yes - whole different ball game - but IM is really very easy - it is "adults" that make it hard - or like to think it is hard. | |
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I know some people see university as an "experience" but I see it as being sucked deeper and deeper in to the very system they should be free from. When a person is financially free they can do anything, anywhere, any time, and the sooner a kid starts the better. My youngest son, 16 years, is a straight A* student in his exams, yet he has finished education to do IM, despite massive pressure from "friends", relations and others who say he is "wasting his life"". I just tell him to go see them in 5 years and see who has got a life then. | |
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Ok to everyone that is telling him that his son is too young, thats not exactly true. As long as his son knows how to run it and is willing to do the work, he can do w.e. he pleases. Plenty of young teenagers make money online (google teenage millionaires). Anyway as far as your question goes, I recommend getting him "the newbie workbook" I am not sure if it is free but yuo should be able to just google it and find it. My cousin sent it to me when I first got started and it outlines everything for you. Its a proven system that your son can use to get started and later expand on.
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I think the idea for selling on ebay would be brilliant, he could use his interest in computer games as a starter point,also set up a blog about computer games. In the blog you can link to his ebay auctions.
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eBay is hard work because physical products are involved which brings in a whole new set of factors, e.g. PayPal payments, order processing, fulfilment, postage, returns, questions from difficult eBayers and so on. And the tax authorities keep a close watch in eBay. I would personally never suggest a teen start an eBay business - sends the wrong message, and after all eBay is not IM. |
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Take the advice you have found here. Its the simple truth a 14 yr old cant manage an online business. You might want to start teaching him the basic, htlm, java. So that he could position himself for an internet business.
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Are you speaking from experience or from your own perspective? A 14 year old can definitely run an Internet business - speaking as the father of three teenage boys. | |
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Look - adults make it hard because of the Mindset they approach IM with. Teenagers have no concept of failure, or procrastination, or fear, or inaction, or any other "adult" issue, while at the same time having a grasp of the Internet way beyond most adults and a phenomenal drive to succeed with boundless energy and enthusiasm. The ego of many adults precludes them from accepting that a 14 year old can make a lot of money on the Internet while they struggle or never get started, but that is the adults issue - not the kids. | |
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Not to repeat what has already been said, but a 14 entrepreneur is not only possible, but should be encouraged! Of course he can do it! First lesson...NEVER listen to the naysayers! My advice...you must check out Ed Dale's Thirty Day Challenge. It is a free guide teaching "newbies" the basics of Internet Marketing, and more than one teenager has successfully completed the challenge and earned their first dollar online. The pre-season is underway now with plenty of time to catch up before the actual season begins the first of August! It's a very exciting time, and I'll definitely be there. Hope to see your son there as well. Here's the link (it's FREE by the way) Thirty Day Challenge *** I just noticed the link has already been shared, but it's so good I thought I'd post it again! Best of luck to your son!! Derek |
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A blog on the games he plays and his opinions on them may be a good star, buy a domain name, use wordpress, monetize using adsense at first then if he gets really good he can sell adspace on his website. I never liked blogging for profits though, if I were you I'd teach him about niche marketing - making products in niches outside Internet Marketing and driving traffic to his website through a combination of SEO, Article Marketing, Building Backlinks, and PPC (if you want to allow that in his budget) Definitely encourage him to start an internet business, even if he doesn't get anything up and running for a few months (or years) he'll learn a lot about business and marketing and he'll be ahead of his peers when it comes to real-world business. Quote:
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As to the OP: First things first, what is it that your 14 year old is good at? Find out what his likes and dislikes are and go from there. Don't take just what you hear from on here as nothing we offer might be in line with what he likes to do. Second, make one simple rule right from the beginning, and it is the same rule my mom made with me before I started selling the Tupperware. If the grades start suffering because of the business, then the business becomes the books until the grades come back up. You can run the IM business during that time but the grades are far more important than any amount of money he can be earning online or offline. Any other nay-sayers can come deal with me directly cuz I am tired of seeing different ones on here telling others what they can and can't do. The wildcat is out the cage and I AM NOT A JOKE!!! | |
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Hey Stephen, Just because you didn't start a business at 14 doesn't mean someone else can't. Even if the lad makes and loses a million before he is 18 he will learn some valuable life lessons. Then he can make another million before he is 20. Sh*t, my grandad was hauling coal out of a mine at 14. He would let you know it's a lot easier sitting in front of a computer. With some good guidance, there is no reason why anyone old enough to use a keyboard can't at least make some extra pocket money and maybe even hit it big. They will certainly have fewer "reasons" why something can't be done than us "more experienced" people and that is half the battle. Sam | |
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The earlier he starts the sooner he'll make the first million online. That's sort of my thinking and I consider having an edge over older people who have just started this and will have less time to enjoy their success ![]() I better become successful while studying at university and never have a day J.O.B in my life. Chris |
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I would go as far as to say that the sooner a kid starts - girls as well as boys - the better. The further they get sucked in to the human control system, the harder it will be to escape - especially when they get tied in to a mortgage, credit cards, and all the other systems. A teenager has a golden opportunity to be free for life. It took me until I was 20 - that is because I was a mere "teenager" who started a national bricks and mortar computer company on $500 after selling everything I owned, when everyone thought I was crazy. They didn't think I was crazy 5 years later when my company was doing $18M and employing over 70 people. That one action led me to two other national companies and then in to IM, and 33 years of freedom so far, and these days I just enjoy my IM while helping others. If I can save teenagers from what I went through, and in particular from the "j-o-b market", then that is what I will do. I am getting huge flack from my relations who think that I am pushing my kids in to IM, but I am not. My three now teenage sons - who I have been a single parent to for the last 14 years as well as doing IM - know the absolute freedom that IM brings - the freedom to do what we want, when we want, and I am proud of them for wanting the same by starting their own IM businesses instead of relying on me for their wishes needs and desires. I don't want to sound repetitive, but anyone who thinks a teenager cannot start an IM business is probably either resentful of their own failures, or their ego tells them that only "grown ups" can succeed in IM. |
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I appluade any 14 yr old who wants to start a business. I would suggest article writing, you can start by creating a website for her. then promote the website and let them write articles for people. Its not much but its a great way for a 14 year old to make some money and start a life of business mindedness.
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To answer the original question: Niche sites are a great way for anyone to start in IM. The Thirty Day Challenge has been recommended and I agree, although it might move a little slowly depending on your son's technical skills. I also like what Nick (Niche Market Control Panel) and Brad (ReviewAzon.com) have been doing with Amazon affiliate sites. Both have offered WSOs recently. I don't know if Amazon has an age requirement but my kids use tracking IDs from my account. |
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| Sorry, didn't bother to read rest of your post and much less answer to it since you obviously didn't read my posts. Otherwise you would have known that I actually had a business at age of 14.
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I know what I would rather my fourteen year old was doing and it would not be playing games. One thing I would do is to treat him or her to an education. I would pay for an annual subsription to wealthy affiliate.com and make sure that he knows what he is doing and mentor him as well La dominatrix | |
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One of my sons was buying stuff off eBay and selling it at school when he was 12, and making 300% profit. He used my eBay account of course for legal reasons, but it was all his work and initiative. One of my sons is brilliant with PhotoShop and has been making logos, avatars and other graphics for people on games forums and other places for years to make people happy - but he could easily charge for it and has often been offered money. My youngest son is brilliant at English and writes very long essays. He could write articles all day and make a good living. Most of the IM stuff I showed them so far they see as easy - which it is. Lets not forget the girls. Whatever Life Article about Whatever Life YouTube Video on Whatever Life This is a regular girl who over the last few years, from the age of 14 has built a website that gets 7 million unique's and 60 million page views per month, ahead of Britannica.com, AmericanIdol.com, FDA .gov, and CBS.com and Oprah.com Even at 17 she has turned down multi-million dollar offers for her site because she knows it has much further to go and will be worth tens if not hundreds of millions in future. During the last couple of years as a "mere teenager" Ashley has bough her own house and she employs her parents. This is just one example among many. Teenagers generally stand a much better chance as startups in IM than "adults" because, as I have said before, they have the right Mindset and enthusiasm, but above all to them it is fun. |
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First of all I think it's GREAT that he wants to do IM at 14. I myself got into Internet Marketing when I was 12/13 and at that age you learn so much because you tend to just DO it rather than analyzing everything too much. I myself started on eBay, and imo it's a great place to begin because it's relatively easy to get sales since you've got customers already in front of you, and you can learn key things such as dealing with customers and writing sales copy. Since then I've done various things online and now at the age of 21 I'm having a go at doing this full time. I personally don't think I'd be in this position now if I hadn't started young. Interesting thread - and good luck. Dan |
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Good thing Gurbaksh Chahal was sixteen when he started his business in his bedroom< before he sold it three years later for nearly fifty millionaire dollars> a real businss<
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I've lost count of the kids that email me saying I'm 12 - 13 - 14 -15 can you help me make money. And because of there age I didnt know if I should try and help them or say sorry your to young. I just didnt want to get in to trouble if I tried to help. As you know running a online business costs money and you need an adult to look after what they do when setting things up. Am I right in turning them away? |
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I only wish the Internet was a big thing when I was 14 years old. Man, if I could have started an Internet business in 1994, I could have paid for my own college education.
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I have found that teenagers figure things out and innovate at an amazing speed at times. The only barriers to most is the support of their parents and the basic resources such as web hosting, list services etc which they may be too young to purchase. Also of course they may be too young for other financial aspects of IM from a regulatory perspective. I help all kids that ask for it willingly, and offer them a full reseller account on one of my servers for free. | |
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| Rock on kid! Why don't you develop a step-by-step tutorial program for kids to get into IM with a small investment (from their allowance or parents lol) based on your model and experience. I know I would buy it for my 13 year old.
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Interesting, though I'm not sure that you could really start a "business" so to say, since you don't technically have the paperwork required to legally work. But best of luck to you anyway! |
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I believe many more teens would start IM businesses if they saw others being successful. Keep in mind that most teens would be actively discouraged by parents, relatives and peers who want to see them get an "honest, proper job". There are millions out there who still think IM is some dark, murky underground world, not suitable for their kids. Ashey Qualls had to deal with all sorts of nonsense from her divorced parents and brother as well as running the business - a huge pressure for a your teenager who was raking in $70K per month even then, but she handle it herself. | |
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From the US Department of Labor: "The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) sets 14 as the minimum age for most non-agricultural work." So... you could be the CEO of a company at any age. You can only work so many hours a week, I believe the limit is 24 in most states, but I think we can live with that. First, get control over the company. Tell an adult to incorporate for you, and transfer most of the stock to you - but not all of it. File corporate by-laws which explicitly state that the majority shareholder is automatically the head of the board of directors, and that the CEO is elected by a vote of attending directors with each vote weighted by shares held. Now hold the initial meeting of your board of directors. Say "I want to be CEO!" and, because you're the majority shareholder, so shall it be. Now you're the CEO of a company. Make a list of all the stuff you have to do that can only be done by an adult, and hand it to the adult. As CEO of the company, direct him "go do this!" and he will have to go do it. Because he is an adult, he has the legal right to enter into a binding contract (which, as a minor, you do not); because he is a duly appointed agent of the company, he has the authority to obligate the company; and because it is the company that is obligate, not you personally, none of the parties with whom you make agreements can complain that the CEO is only 14. I'm pretty sure this would work. Consult a lawyer, of course; state laws do tend to differ. |
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I have to also recommend Ed Dale's Thirty Day Challenge! Google it. I have had people ask me what "that internet thingie is" and I recommend them there. If it is as good as 2007 AND 2008 (I'm sure it will exceed both this year) then it is worth any $997 training program. It teaches the basics, step-by-step, and always uses the most cutting edge tools. Also it builds businesses that LAST, not fast-cash-faster-fizzle techniques. Plus you can't beat the price: Free! or the delivery method: Video! Had I had this when I first started out, I would have gotten my first Clickbank check at 17 rather than 20! 30 Day challenge... can't recommend it enough for all of you, but especially the young, the newbies, and the Home-schoolers like I was who want the world as their oyster! With 20 days until the challenge starts, there's plenty of time to catch up on preseason! Best of luck to your kid! |
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Ok first my two cents on the age thing. The younger the better, after we reach a certain age it seems that society brands it to us to not go out of the main stream or we will fail. When they are still young you don't see this kind of mind set. They set there goals for the stars don't stop till they get there! I think with proper training he could rock socks. Now on to your original question, where to start your kid off at. I think a blog would be a great place to start. A course that I would sugest ( I personally am part of, but not an affiliate) is The Niche Blogger course by Amy (The Niche Blogger - Make Money Blogging) She walks you through step by step reasearching and everything else you need to go from knowing nothing to having a running blog and monetizing it. Its like 19.95 a month and I think would be a great place for your kid to start and learn the basics, and then from there, the sky is the limit! |
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A blog will work very well for him, as long as he sticks to one niche. I will recommend that he does a blog on gaming, or something that he is interested in. |
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I'm 16, and I'm on my way to become a Internet Marketer. Though still far(I started just 2 weeks ago), I will definitely work my way through this rugged path to success. @.@ |
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Well as I have mentioned before, my three teenage sons have finished school - and they are all very high achievers who could have got degrees at university - to start IM - their decision. They know the freedom and everything else IM brings of course. Every parent has a responsibility to ensure their children are happy in life, and there is nothing worse than encouraging them to join the human control system of "work", read "slave labor" - for 50 years while looking forward to 2 days escape every week > retire on a "pension > die. Once a person is committed to mortgage, credit cards, family and so on, it becomes thousands of times harder due to the responsibility. I started my own bricks and mortar company - the hard way - 33 years ago, and have been free ever since. It is my wish that my sons enjoy the same freedom - and they will. Every parent with teens on this forum should be showing them the path to freedom. Also working as a family team, sharing ideas and encouragement is a wonderful thing. I have said time and again here that 90% of success is Mindset. Teens do not have the baggage of "adults". They do not know the meaning of failure, only an absolute desire to succeed - which is why they do and always will. From startup - a teen has many orders of magnitude more likelihood of success than someone in there 30's for example, in fact most teens will succeed in my view. As for those who think teens are only fit for blogging about games - that really is condescending. Teens can do anything adults can do and more - much more. |
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| Battle Hardened Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA/UK
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