any ideas or help understanding my niche site

Mike Messarge · 07-10-2009, 12:25 PM

Hi Warriors,

I'm really new to this IM thing and I am working diligently towards getting some sites up and profitable. Maybe someone here in the forum can help get a better understanding of driving traffic or site improvement. I slapped together a niche site about eye care, with some plr materials, and slapped in some adsense, and a CJ promotion. You can go here to view it at (eyecareview.com). I really don't know much about getting traffic to this site.

This is the other issue I'm trying to understand. I just slapped up these articles without really tweaking them or anything... I may do some tweaking as I progress in promoting this site and project. What I can't figure out is this, as it is now... I dont have a clue what google or any search engine that may spider my site will determine what the key word(s) are. I just used these PLR articles that I had, and constructed the site. I keep reading about how everyone is trying to optimize for this and that keyword. I can understand why you want to rank for certain key words, but in my case I have no clue what the key words actually are. I guess my question is, how does google determine by spidering my site what the key words are.

I also plan on submitting it to some directories for some back links, to get it indexed, but regardless, I don't know what keywords I'm targeting? I may try to tweak these articles once I know what to do. This is Word Press theme site, and I don't know if or not I need to set meta tags or not or even how to do it.

Anyway, any advise or knowledge would be greatly appreciated, and thank you in advance for any clues or help making my site rank.

Mike Messarge

Lisa Gergets · 07-10-2009, 01:11 PM

Did you do niche phrase or keyword research before you bought your domain name? "Eye care view" doesn't even register results in the Google Adwords Keyword Tool so you're unlikely to see much organic SE traffic at all.

Also, using PLR and not unique content (articles you've written yourself) is a mistake because Google sees it as duplicate content and gives your site much less ranking because of it.

If I were you, I'd go back to the beginning, learn some things about niche phrase research, keyword research, unique content...niche blogging in general. If you are not involved in an instructional program, I can give some recommendations on that as well. PM me if you're interested.

Mike Messarge · 07-10-2009, 01:41 PM

I didn't do any niche phrase or keyword research, but I was under the assumption from the ppl I bought the PLR materials from did the necessary research. I also realize the de-valuing of duplicate content. I did some checking on copyscape to see if any of my articles come up duplicated, and not all of the articles are duplicate, some are, but some where coming up clean. I'm trying to learn as I go, I'm not really too worried if this site doesnt make it, its the process I'm trying to get down. Also, I thought I could tweak the articles and add new ones as I go along and learn. Can that help, adjust and change articles over time? Will that mater far as getting ranked in the serp's. Anyway, if you have any other pointers, I really do appreciate your input.. thank you kindly.

Mike.

marmo · 07-10-2009, 01:46 PM

TinkerAndPo you have some great advice Ive read quite a few of your reply's to threads today.

Martin.Avis · 07-10-2009, 01:46 PM

I have a free tool at Which keywords does the search engine see on your site? that will help you determine what the search engines are seeing.

You are welcome to use it.

Martin

Lisa Gergets · 07-10-2009, 01:49 PM

Yes, you can definitely do re-writes of the articles - make sure they're at least 30% original content - and then you can post them. But I'd buy a new domain that's highly searched, or it will be hard for people to find your site!

Do a search here on WF for "keyword research" and you'll have tons of info on how to do it. Do the same thing with "niche phrase" and after you find a good one, buy that domain and start again with your rewrites!

Lisa Gergets · 07-10-2009, 01:50 PM

Thanks Marmo! I like to hear that!

Mike Messarge · 07-10-2009, 02:01 PM

Hi Martin,

I checked out your free tool, it's pretty awesome. I guess that you can pretty well assume that is how the search engines will see your site and articles. Thanks for sharing that with me, I'm going to bookmark it and use if for future reference!!

Mike.

Lisa Gergets · 07-10-2009, 02:05 PM

Your domain name should be exactly the same as your highly-searched niche phrase (for niche blogs at least...for branding websites it's a totally different story)...

Mike Messarge · 07-10-2009, 02:15 PM

I'm not sure what you mean by branding website? I do get what you mean by domain name being exactly as your highly-searched niche phrase. The next niche site I build I will try and do some research and buy a domain that is actually highly searched. For long tail search phrases, would you just get a domain combining the 3 or more words? Or hyphen the words?

Lisa Gergets · 07-10-2009, 02:42 PM

Don't worry about the branding site - that's not what you're doing.

I think you're getting keywords, niche phrase and domain confused.

Your niche phrase is the most highly searched of your keywords that is available as a .com, .net, or .org domain name. (Of course, it also has to make sense and make a good blog title.) So your niche phrase will also be your blog title and your domain name. (I use both domains without dashes and domains with dashes...for niche blogs, in my personal opinion, I don't think it matters too much to Google, if at all.)

Your keywords are words and phrases related to your niche phrase. These will end up being used in your blog post titles and within your blog posts as SEO.

Long-tail keywords are usually 3 or more words and tend to market to people who are ready to buy. Example: someone just looking around online will look up big screen tv. Someone who is ready to buy will look up 46" plasma flat screen. They're much more targeted phrases and they covert better to sales.

See the difference?

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Originally Posted by Mike Messarge

I'm not sure what you mean by branding website? I do get what you mean by domain name being exactly as your highly-searched niche phrase. The next niche site I build I will try and do some research and buy a domain that is actually highly searched. For long tail search phrases, would you just get a domain combining the 3 or more words? Or hyphen the words?

07-10-2009, 12:25 PM	#1
Mike Messarge Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	any ideas or help understanding my niche site Hi Warriors, I'm really new to this IM thing and I am working diligently towards getting some sites up and profitable. Maybe someone here in the forum can help get a better understanding of driving traffic or site improvement. I slapped together a niche site about eye care, with some plr materials, and slapped in some adsense, and a CJ promotion. You can go here to view it at (eyecareview.com). I really don't know much about getting traffic to this site. This is the other issue I'm trying to understand. I just slapped up these articles without really tweaking them or anything... I may do some tweaking as I progress in promoting this site and project. What I can't figure out is this, as it is now... I dont have a clue what google or any search engine that may spider my site will determine what the key word(s) are. I just used these PLR articles that I had, and constructed the site. I keep reading about how everyone is trying to optimize for this and that keyword. I can understand why you want to rank for certain key words, but in my case I have no clue what the key words actually are. I guess my question is, how does google determine by spidering my site what the key words are. I also plan on submitting it to some directories for some back links, to get it indexed, but regardless, I don't know what keywords I'm targeting? I may try to tweak these articles once I know what to do. This is Word Press theme site, and I don't know if or not I need to set meta tags or not or even how to do it. Anyway, any advise or knowledge would be greatly appreciated, and thank you in advance for any clues or help making my site rank. Mike Messarge

07-10-2009, 01:11 PM	#2
Lisa Gergets Your Anti-Guru Girl War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Iona Farm, Wisconsin Posts: 2,056 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 725 Times in 350 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site Did you do niche phrase or keyword research before you bought your domain name? "Eye care view" doesn't even register results in the Google Adwords Keyword Tool so you're unlikely to see much organic SE traffic at all. Also, using PLR and not unique content (articles you've written yourself) is a mistake because Google sees it as duplicate content and gives your site much less ranking because of it. If I were you, I'd go back to the beginning, learn some things about niche phrase research, keyword research, unique content...niche blogging in general. If you are not involved in an instructional program, I can give some recommendations on that as well. PM me if you're interested.
	WP Amaz-One total revamp - coming SOON! "See A Need, Fill A Need!" ~~Bigweld

07-10-2009, 01:41 PM	#3
Mike Messarge Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site I didn't do any niche phrase or keyword research, but I was under the assumption from the ppl I bought the PLR materials from did the necessary research. I also realize the de-valuing of duplicate content. I did some checking on copyscape to see if any of my articles come up duplicated, and not all of the articles are duplicate, some are, but some where coming up clean. I'm trying to learn as I go, I'm not really too worried if this site doesnt make it, its the process I'm trying to get down. Also, I thought I could tweak the articles and add new ones as I go along and learn. Can that help, adjust and change articles over time? Will that mater far as getting ranked in the serp's. Anyway, if you have any other pointers, I really do appreciate your input.. thank you kindly. Mike.

07-10-2009, 01:46 PM	#4
marmo Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York the over taxed state Posts: 84 Thanks: 25 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site TinkerAndPo you have some great advice Ive read quite a few of your reply's to threads today.

07-10-2009, 01:46 PM	#5
Martin.Avis The dot is silent War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Sidcup, United Kingdom. Posts: 1,739 Thanks: 140 Thanked 670 Times in 178 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site I have a free tool at Which keywords does the search engine see on your site? that will help you determine what the search engines are seeing. You are welcome to use it. Martin
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07-10-2009, 01:49 PM	#6
Lisa Gergets Your Anti-Guru Girl War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Iona Farm, Wisconsin Posts: 2,056 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 725 Times in 350 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site Yes, you can definitely do re-writes of the articles - make sure they're at least 30% original content - and then you can post them. But I'd buy a new domain that's highly searched, or it will be hard for people to find your site! Do a search here on WF for "keyword research" and you'll have tons of info on how to do it. Do the same thing with "niche phrase" and after you find a good one, buy that domain and start again with your rewrites!
	WP Amaz-One total revamp - coming SOON! "See A Need, Fill A Need!" ~~Bigweld

07-10-2009, 01:50 PM	#7
Lisa Gergets Your Anti-Guru Girl War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Iona Farm, Wisconsin Posts: 2,056 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 725 Times in 350 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site Thanks Marmo! I like to hear that!
	WP Amaz-One total revamp - coming SOON! "See A Need, Fill A Need!" ~~Bigweld

07-10-2009, 02:01 PM	#8
Mike Messarge Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site Hi Martin, I checked out your free tool, it's pretty awesome. I guess that you can pretty well assume that is how the search engines will see your site and articles. Thanks for sharing that with me, I'm going to bookmark it and use if for future reference!! Mike.

07-10-2009, 02:05 PM	#9
Lisa Gergets Your Anti-Guru Girl War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Iona Farm, Wisconsin Posts: 2,056 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 725 Times in 350 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site Your domain name should be exactly the same as your highly-searched niche phrase (for niche blogs at least...for branding websites it's a totally different story)...
	WP Amaz-One total revamp - coming SOON! "See A Need, Fill A Need!" ~~Bigweld

07-10-2009, 02:15 PM	#10
Mike Messarge Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 7 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: any ideas or help understanding my niche site I'm not sure what you mean by branding website? I do get what you mean by domain name being exactly as your highly-searched niche phrase. The next niche site I build I will try and do some research and buy a domain that is actually highly searched. For long tail search phrases, would you just get a domain combining the 3 or more words? Or hyphen the words?