I have one year to make it. Realistic?

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Okay guys. My dad tells me and my mom that starting 2016, he will reduce his financial contribution to our family from $2000 to $500 since he's getting old and is slowing down (or maybe save up for retirement). So I've decided to get into internet marketing and my goal by 2016 is to be making $3000 - $3500 per month after taxes.

I work at a minimum wage job 35-40 hours per week. I can put around $200 every month into IM. The problem is I don't know what to do. I don't even know if I have any marketable skills that I'm good at.

I've looked into ppv/ppc marketing. I think it's something I think I want to try. I'm not a naturally creative person as far as creating content, but I am more on the analytical side. I like analyzing and tweaking things in order to make them better. So I think this MIGHT be something I can get good at.

The only problem is that a couple of ad sites require a minimum of $1000 for advertising. One requires $500. Do you think I should have a better paying job before I can get into PPV/PPC?

What IM business model would you recommend based on everything I mentioned. Remember that I have one year so I'm not too desperate, but at the same time I don't have thousands to spend on a campaign. Also I don't like creating too much content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

    my goal by 2016 is to be making $3000 - $3500 per month after taxes.
    It's possible.

    Some people manage it.

    But the proportion of people who set out to try to manage it, who actually manage it, is extremely low.

    Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

    I can put around $200 every month into IM.
    That's about $200 per month more than I was willing to put into it, when I started. I started my whole business for about $60.

    Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

    I don't even know if I have any marketable skills that I'm good at.
    You need to change that, and quickly, and acquire some. Incomes depend on skills.

    This is what I did (and still do). It may not suit you, though. (It took me 5-6 months to get to $3,500+ per month, but that was before tax).

    Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

    I've looked into ppv/ppc marketing. I think it's something I think I want to try. I'm not a naturally creative person as far as creating content, but I am more on the analytical side. I like analyzing and tweaking things in order to make them better. So I think this MIGHT be something I can get good at.
    Good observations, there. Yes, if you're analytical rather than creative, you could be well suited to a traffic-generation method like PPC. That's very analytical.

    But be clear about two things ...

    (i) That is a traffic-generation method, not a "business model", and ...

    (ii) It's a method more suited to people with more investment capital available than $200 per month (typically your first $500+ is "educational" and doesn't produce a lot).

    Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

    Do you think I should have a better paying job before I can get into PPV/PPC?
    I haven't done a lot of PPC (though it's one of the traffic-generation tools in my armoury), but I'm guessing the answer to that one is "yes".

    Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

    What IM business model would you recommend based on everything I mentioned. Remember that I have one year so I'm not too desperate, but at the same time I don't have thousands to spend on a campaign. Also I don't like creating too much content.
    I don't know, but on balance, from what you've said, I'd probably recommend that you avoid affiliate marketing. Successful affiliate marketing is intrinsically an email marketing business, and people who don't like creating content tend not to be among the most successful at it. Affiliate marketing incomes tend to depend on "how good you are at email marketing" and that's less than ideal for people who don't like creating content, really. And I'm putting it quite mildly, there.


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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Hi Bhaitain,

    No one can give you a definitive answer. So many unknowns. Based on my experience, though, and based on the information you've imparted, earning a profit of $3,500 per month by the end of your deadline is, generally speaking, certainly achievable. The question being: how should you go about doing it?

    I could probably write for the next 12 months without stopping to give you the answer; longer probably. Instead, I'll give Cliff Notes. (Perhaps even the blurb to Cliff Notes.)

    1. For now, avoid paid advertising. I do this to a great extent, have done for over a decade, and if I know anything I know complete industry newcomers would do well to avoid. It's a science. And I don't say so lightly. PPC marketing, for example, employs myriad aspects of online marketing, all of which must be mastered, or at least known fairly well, before you can truly optimize campaigns. In short: you'll be throwing away your money (for now).

    2. Learn: photoshop, installing and designing (basic design) Wordpress sites, lists, sales funnels, ad copy, landing pages, CPA marketing, simple video production, free traffic platforms, domains.

    3. Consider these general methods:

    A) Growing a monetized list with free traffic platforms.
    B) Growing traffic to landing pages with free traffic platforms.
    C) Domain flipping by registering domains for between 99 cents and 5 bucks.

    You can get started for around $20, or $100 if you invest in a premium theme or theme package. And that, truly, is the safest way to go. Educate yourself and don't stick to just the one method. Do that and you'll almost certainly hit your target.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alast
    Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

    What IM business model would you recommend based on everything I mentioned. Remember that I have one year so I'm not too desperate, but at the same time I don't have thousands to spend on a campaign. Also I don't like creating too much content.
    Define "too much" content. Given your writing skills, you'd need to write no more than 2-3 articles (800-1200 words) per month to use article syndication as a traffic-generation method.

    I'm under the impression that "too much content" means daily articles; it's the same impression I was under when I first started internet marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author bhaitain
      Thanks everyone, especially Alexa and GRM for taking the time to write informative and helpful posts.


      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


      (i) That is a traffic-generation method, not a "business model", and ...
      Oh, I was thinking of promoting CPA offers through PPC/PPV. Don't know why I didn't mention that.

      Would CPA fall under affiliate marketing?

      Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post

      1. For now, avoid paid advertising.
      I agree. Definitely something I will be doing eventually though

      How much would you suggest as a minimum monthly budget for beginners?

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      Originally Posted by Alast View Post

      Define "too much" content. Given your writing skills, you'd need to write no more than 2-3 articles (800-1200 words) per month to use article syndication as a traffic-generation method.

      I'm under the impression that "too much content" means daily articles; it's the same impression I was under when I first started internet marketing.
      I guess I can write 3 articles per week but I would need to research a lot about the topic and I don't know how to put an interesting personality behind it. Most of the articles I've written in the past were dull and boring. I'm guessing this can be improved with a lot of practice?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alast
        Originally Posted by bhaitain

        I guess I can write 3 articles per week but I would need to research a lot about the topic and I don't know how to put an interesting personality behind it. Most of the articles I've written in the past were dull and boring. I'm guessing this can be improved with a lot of practice?
        Per month. I only write two, actually. I think I can relate to you in the sense I started writing boring articles. It's not too hard to adjust; understanding you're not writing an essay, rather an article which people actually read from different publications. Furthermore, most publications will make changes if they like the intentions of the article, just not the way it was written. Of course, you should try and write something very little editing will be required for (pretending otherwise will kill your business, I would assume).

        One thing I've learned is, you don't need to have a PhD in (creative) writing to write for newspapers/magazines/blogs and other publications. You just need to be able to write (which is evident you can, from your posts).
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

        Would CPA fall under affiliate marketing?
        It's generally considered not, though some people do think of it as being "a branch of affiliate marketing". The point, in this context, is that you can do CPA without list-building and email marketing (though you can also do it with list-building and email marketing), so it can be very suitable for someone who doesn't really want to do content creation. And there are certainly some people making a living via CPA, using paid traffic but not using email marketing. Not my subject, though!

        Originally Posted by greasiers View Post

        Focus on SEO for now
        How can you possibly advise on a traffic source without even knowing what the business model is?!?!

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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
        Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

        I agree. Definitely something I will be doing eventually though

        How much would you suggest as a minimum monthly budget for beginners?
        Very little, really.

        1. Hosting.
        2. Get Response/ aWeber.
        3. Domains.

        30 bucks? 40?

        I can invest anywhere from 30 bucks a month or 30K or more into different methods. The interesting thing is this: quite often the biggest percentage returns come from low-investment methods. Example: domain flipping. You'll register a domain for 99 cents, flip it for $1,000. Question is: can you do all this? Not right away, no. I've been at it 20 years. But I'm hopefully making you see that throwing your cash away is not the answer. For now: basics. I know people making 5 figures a month who've never felt the need to even extend beyond the basics. You just have to educate yourself (constantly) and put the effort in. If you were born with the knack, you'll make out just fine.

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  • Profile picture of the author greasiers
    Focus on SEO for now and avoid paid advertising until you gain sufficient experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Do you think I should have a better paying job before I can get into PPV/PPC?
    No, but you need a lot more experience.

    Learn how to target and convert traffic before you start trying to drive it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathan Kruz
    I would HIGHLY recommend that you join a one on one coaching program! If you try at it yourself for the next year, you probably will be spending lots of money on products and fall in to shinny object syndrome since you are desperate and time is not really your friend.

    I think a coaching program will really be beneficial to you. I recommend the coaching program by John Thornhill called "Partnership to Success". I can confidently recommend it because I am one of his students!

    It does cost 2k but it's well worth it. If you are interested, pm me and I might be able to hook you up.

    If you are looking for a lower cost solution, then I recommend the Univeristy of Clickbank.

    Anyways, take a look at those two if you want, i really hope things work out for you!

    Hope this helps

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    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
      Take something you DO know about and analyze that niche.

      Is it profitable? Are there 100's of products that they will buy?

      Is it maybe a high paying per click adsense model?

      Once you have a niche.

      Next build a site and put 20 mini reports on it as just regular web content that you write and are so valuable that people would gladly pay for them. I mean truly valuable. They would pay for them, but don't have to, they're free.

      Set up a FB fan page, pinterest, twitter etc.. and post your content from your site to them.

      Make video's on YT that also give insane value and link them to your site.

      Put out press releases about each of your reports.

      To monetize place affiliate links on the site in the reports to tools they will need to make the report work. Or if you're using adsense put ads on the pages.

      In every report tell them to join your list. Have an opt in form in the top side bar and a pop up. You can set a pop up so that you tell them clilck here to join my list and when they click a pop up comes out and they join.

      Mail to your list every time you write a new daily report.

      Every report gets a new YT video, a press release and is added to your social media outlets.

      There you have it, a simple system that works rather well. There are no guarantees but you should be able to meet your goal in a couple of months.

      The key is consistency.

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  • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
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  • Profile picture of the author danieldesai
    Originally Posted by bhaitain View Post

    my goal by 2016 is to be making $3000 - $3500 per month after taxes.

    I work at a minimum wage job 35-40 hours per week. I can put around $200 every month into IM.
    Hey, to answer your question of can you do it... the answer is yes, you can. However, as Alexa and Tom pointed out, most people don't.

    I believe I have a good understanding why, and I'll share with you why I failed miserably to make any money:

    1. I had Shiny Object Syndrome; I bought a LOT of different Make Money Online courses/WSOs and never stuck with any of them for more than a couple of months. Naturally, I got nowhere and kept buying more of those products, thinking that *this time* I would finally strike gold.

    2. I foolishly believed that I could only make money online by selling/promoting Make Money Online products. Heh, that was a disaster.

    3. I thought the only traffic source worth my time was search engine traffic. I failed miserably at that, by the way.

    4. I didn't build a list; I had stubbornly refused to do so for a long time then grudgingly tried building one to promote a Biz Opp. When that didn't pan out, I rage quit for a few months - well, not exactly quit, I just wanted to take some time off to get my head straight. (Not my proudest moment.)

    5. I spent far more time "getting things right" than ever doing ANYTHING.

    6. I didn't assess what marketing methods I should employ based on my skillset. When I realized that I'm good at researching and creating content it became obvious that the methods I were trying to use was NOT a good fit for me (at least not with my current skillset).

    To summarize my above points: don't buy a bunch of courses and hop around, don't focus exclusively on SEO (Google is very volatile anyway, one algorithm update and bye-bye traffic ), don't think you have to promote internet marketing/MMO stuff, build an email list, don't procrastinate, and assess what you're good at.

    With a budget of $200/month you can *definitely* build an email list and hit your goal of about $3,000/month if you work your ass off. Another alternative to build a nice passive income is Kindle Publishing. With $200 a month you can create at least one high quality book a month through outsourcing it, and have enough money left over to outsource a bit of promotion for it - this is actually an income stream I'm excited to start building myself!

    I know what it's like to have a small budget and big goals (I live in a Third World country) but truthfully anyone can easily get started with less than $100/month. Stay focused, don't screw around like I so stupidly did, and you might even surprise yourself.

    Kind Regards,
    Daniel
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      • Profile picture of the author Sangfroid
        To make $3000 - $3500 per month after taxes in 2016
        is highly unlikely but possible.

        I would focus first on building a big list in a lucrative
        niche.

        Then after you get to 3,000 subscribers, start doing list
        swaps.

        After you get to 10,000, start monetizing the list.

        You fill in the blanks with whatever is interesting for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
          Originally Posted by Sangfroid View Post

          To make $3000 - $3500 per month after taxes in 2016
          is highly unlikely but possible.

          I would focus first on building a big list in a lucrative
          niche.

          Then after you get to 3,000 subscribers, start doing list
          swaps.

          After you get to 10,000, start monetizing the list.

          You fill in the blanks with whatever is interesting for you.
          Sorry, but I have to disagree with a couple of things.

          1. The amount stated per month in a year not possible? If I had failed to make that my 1st month in IM I may have looked for greener pastures.
          Sorry that you don't believe you can do it.

          2. IMHO you should not do list swaps. my lists are treated how I would want to be treated, not like a trash heap.

          I saw one guy's WSO where he said "just keep list swapping even when you get hate mail. Don't worry about the unsubscribes, just keep going".

          Yeah right, not if you want a responsive list that buys nearly everything you pitch. Oh, sure there are more secrets to it. You have to gain their trust etc.. And you dang sure won't gain trust with list swaps.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Is $3,000 - $3,500 possible after taxes?

    Is this realistic?

    I know some marketers who make that per day.

    Others make that in an hour.

    Some never make that in all their attempts to become successful in IM.

    This question would be impossible to answer because Only you know yourself.

    When I first got started in this industry, an EX RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) Sergeant who came online and made $300,000 in that year told me this...

    He said..."Rory, Success is 95% 'Mindset' and 5% Marketing.

    He was doing paid advertising back then.

    Now we are going into 2015.

    And Mindset is still the biggest factor of Success.

    So no one can really answer that question.

    Your income goal is obviously being met by some marketers as I said above.

    But only you know how far you will be willing to go to achieve this goal.

    Only You!
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    I recommend setting up a basic sales funnel and building a list in a profitable niche. Going through the process of setting up a sales funnel, and building your list will help you develop some necessary skills, and you can begin building your list with free traffic strategies (forum marketing, video marketing, social media marketing).
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  • Profile picture of the author jbode
    I believe through my own personal experience (and other IMer's I've worked with) there are a few main things that will be the biggest determiners for your success. Before saying them I want to briefly mention why I'm credible in saying this... I've tried and had varying amounts of success in several different business models since starting in 2008. I'm not going to go into detail but mention that these are the main reasons I've been successful in different businesses and more successful in some versus others.

    1. A lot of it depends on how hard you work at it... your 'drive' and determination will be different than mine as mine is different than the next guys. How hard or long are you willing to do real work? for that 1 business model? If you really enjoy it then you're likely to work harder at it so choose wisely!

    2. Does you business model align with your skills or personality? It's way easier to be successful with something you're good at, you already have an advantage and enjoy doing.

    3. Are you following a solid business model/system? Is it fairly basic (the business models I've had/have success with were/are never that complicated)

    Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Bradley
    My 2 cents would be to educate yourself and get familiar with what you see on this forum. Stick to one thing you think you can achieve and have motivation to do so for the rest of the year.

    Now, me personally I like the idea email marketing and being an affiliate cause I don't have to have my own website, product and manage payments, I just drive traffic to other peoples websites.

    If want to start with PPV you could look through this forum and ask questions on what you need to know, just start learning before throwing money into a campaign. Also you could look at alchebank.com he has alot of information on PPV and makes a living from it, could be good for you.

    This is all just advice, do what you want to

    Best of luck
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    If you're serious about this goal, are 100% coachable and willing to
    take direction from a coach and mentor who has a long track record
    of success... and who won't charge you a dime for the coaching and
    mentoring... and you're willing to work hard and stay focused... and
    you live in the U.S.... PM me... I'll be happy to have a conversation with
    you to see if we're a good fit for each other. Don't take this offer casually.
    I don't offer to personally mentor new people all that often.
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