Mom makes $65,000 per month online (headbands folks)

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This mom started an Etsy shop in 2011 to sell her headbands. She is now grossing $65,000 per month:

https://www.yahoo.com/diy/secrets-of...472402320.html

She says her success is from:

- Her passion

- Eat, sleep and breath your brand

- Selling to wide range of buyers

- Branching out to different product lines

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      • Profile picture of the author kilgore
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        Seriously. If you think success is the "lottery" you need to spend some time in the Mind Warriors subforum.
        While to my knowledge there is no real, solid data on success rate in Internet Marketing, the common rule of thumb is that 95% of internet marketers fail. If that's true (and I admit it's a big "if" given the lack of data) that would put the odds of "winning the IM lottery" at 1 in 20. Interestingly, these odds are actually lower than the odds of winning the California Lottery's Mega Millions or Fantasy 5 lotteries -- though obviously not for winning the top prizes in these games (Source: Games).

        All that said, I'd much rather play the "online business lottery" than the California lottery as at least in business I can better my odds with hard work, passion, skills and talent -- though admittedly there's still a bit of luck involved in any venture.

        Regardless, given that there are 694,205 shops on Etsy (Source: https://www.etsy.com/search/shops?search_query=+), and according to the article Three Bird Nest is one of the most successful shops on Etsy, it seems like your odds of having a $65,000/month shop on Etsy are roughly on par with matching "Any 4 of 5 and Mega" on California's Super Lotto Plus: 1 in 197,221.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

          Regardless, given that there are 694,205 shops on Etsy (Source: https://www.etsy.com/search/shops?search_query=+), and according to the article Three Bird Nest is one of the most successful shops on Etsy, it seems like your odds of having a $65,000/month shop on Etsy are roughly on par with matching "Any 4 of 5 and Mega" on California's Super Lotto Plus: 1 in 197,221.
          Those figures might suggest a degree of (current) statistical parity, but the situations aren't analogous. In a lottery, whatever the odds, there are a fixed number of winners. There are no such pre-determined restrictions placed on the success of Etsy shops.

          The example of a successful Etsy shop as referenced in the OP, demonstrates what can be achieved by someone with limited resources, and is there for all to study. If other Etsy shop owners were to draw lessons from it, there's no reason to believe their sales wouldn't improve - thus raising the overall success level of Etsy shops. Unlike a lottery, success for one Etsy store doesn't impact negatively on another - in fact, it's more likely that each success would breed more overall success because of the enhanced reputation of the platform.

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          • Profile picture of the author kilgore
            Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

            Those figures might suggest a degree of (current) statistical parity, but the situations aren't analogous. In a lottery, whatever the odds, there are a fixed number of winners. There are no such pre-determined restrictions placed on the success of Etsy shops.

            The example of a successful Etsy shop as referenced in the OP, demonstrates what can be achieved by someone with limited resources, and is there for all to study. If other Etsy shop owners were to draw lessons from it, there's no reason to believe their sales wouldn't improve - thus raising the overall success level of Etsy shops. Unlike a lottery, success for one Etsy store doesn't impact negatively on another - in fact, it's more likely that each success would breed more overall success because of the enhanced reputation of the platform.
            You defnitely raise some valid points in that the situations aren't perfectly analogous. Though I think they're more analogous than you give credit for:
            1. There actually aren't fixed numbers of winners in the lottery. If 100 people pick the numbers 1-2-3-4-5 and those are the numbers drawn, 100 people win. There is, however, a fixed amount of prize money in a lottery -- which isn't necessarily the case in business. But even here, while on a macro-economic level business isn't necessarily a zero-sum game (due to increases in productivity, technological advances natural resource extraction, etc.), on a micro-economic level it often (though certainly not always) is. If I buy my sister a sweater for Christmas, I'm not likely to buy her a book. So in this case, if you're the clothes-seller, you win, if you run the bookshop you lose. Maybe if you're a really clever book seller you can convince me to buy the book too. But at some point, my consumption will stop -- there's only so much I'm going to be willing to spend on Christmas presents. It may not be a zero-sum game, but it's also not true that everyone can be a winner.
            2. Your assumption that people can learn from successes definitely has truth to it. The problem is (a) this implies that people actually will learn (b) people will learn the right lessons and not the wrong ones (c) the right lessons that they learn will be applicable to their situation and (d) they'll have the skills and talent to take advantage of those learnings in meaningful ways. I don't doubt that this is a possible outcome, but is it a likely outcome? I'm not so sure. Even for lucky, talented few my guess the impact of this learning will be negligiable. According to Etsy's own research (see Etsy economic impact report: Etsy crafters generate $895 million in annual sales, but face low wages themselves.) 65% of sellers on Etsy make less than $100/year. (Yes! Finally! Real data!!!) So if they quintupled their income because of their knowledge they'd now make $500. Big deal.
            Like I said initially, however, I do think you raise some valid points. My analogy was far from perfect. To me the biggest difference between the "online business lottery" and the California lottery is that people playing the former can influence the odds through hard work, skills and talent, whereas people playing the latter cannot. Even so, anyone who doesn't think luck doesn't play a role in entrepreneurism is delusional. A good entrepreneur -- like a good poker player -- knows how to take advantage of luck. But even the best poker player can't bluff all the time. At some point you need good cards.

            I also think it's worth noting that much of the literature on entrepreneurs and entrepreneurism finds that the biggest shared characteristic among entrepreneurs is not, risk-taking, high skills or anything like that. It's overconfidence. As explained in one such study:

            "[E]ntrepreneurs have a strong tendency to consider their situation as unique. After all, by definition, entrepreneurs are individuals who deviate from the norm. Once they identify a profit opportunity, they isolate their present situation, namely starting a new business, and treat it as an original and unrepeatable event. As a result, they neglect the available statistics of past and future similar situations that could help them to form more accurate forecasts of their likelihood of success." (Source: http://www.diw-berlin.de/documents/p...3372/dp501.pdf)

            I'm not trying to be overly negative. Obviously, I believe in entrepreneurism or I wouldn't have jumped head first into those waters myself. But if I'm honest with myself, I probably do exhibit an overconfidence bias -- if I really think about it, my chances of success are probably lower than I want to believe (partly because I have fairly lofty goals).

            Even so I think some degree of overconfidence is probably a good thing. Without some degree of hubris, we'd all likely suffer from a paralyzing fear of failure. But overconfidence can also lead to foolhardiness and so to me at least, if I have to make a choice between positivity and reality, reality will win every time.

            Anyway, thanks for the thoughtful reply above!
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            • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
              Thanks for your response, Kilgore. I should have specified that there could, of course, be several lottery winners even though each would receive a dwindling share of the fixed pot. And although most Etsy shop owners have the potential for success, few are likely to have the necessary attributes (and perhaps the degree of luck) to reach the sales level of the example in the OP.

              Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

              I also think it's worth noting that much of the literature on entrepreneurs and entrepreneurism finds that the biggest shared characteristic among entrepreneurs is not, risk-taking, high skills or anything like that. It's overconfidence. As explained in one such study:

              "[E]ntrepreneurs have a strong tendency to consider their situation as unique. After all, by definition, entrepreneurs are individuals who deviate from the norm. Once they identify a profit opportunity, they isolate their present situation, namely starting a new business, and treat it as an original and unrepeatable event. As a result, they neglect the available statistics of past and future similar situations that could help them to form more accurate forecasts of their likelihood of success." (Source: http://www.diw-berlin.de/documents/p...3372/dp501.pdf)

              I'm not trying to be overly negative. Obviously, I believe in entrepreneurism or I wouldn't have jumped head first into those waters myself. But if I'm honest with myself, I probably do exhibit an overconfidence bias -- if I really think about it, my chances of success are probably lower than I want to believe (partly because I have fairly lofty goals).

              Even so I think some degree of overconfidence is probably a good thing. Without some degree of hubris, we'd all likely suffer from a paralyzing fear of failure. But overconfidence can also lead to foolhardiness and so to me at least, if I have to make a choice between positivity and reality, reality will win every time.
              I think you're bang on the money about overconfidence. That's certainly been my experience also. I don't know if you've read Nassim Taleb's book Antifragile, but his contention is that overconfidence is an essential trait in entrepreneurs. He cites the example of all the overconfident entrepreneurs who, against overwhelming odds of success, open new restaurants. Most fail, but each failure raises the bar and results in better quality restaurants for the few that succeed, to the overall benefit of the restaurant-going public. Their failure is necessary for the good of the whole. As he says:
              Entrepreneurship is a risky and heroic activity, necessary for growth or even the mere survival of the economy. It's also necessarily collective on epistemolological grounds - to facilitate the development of expertise. Someone who did not find something is providing others with knowledge, the best knowledge, that of absence (what does not work) - yet he gets little or no credit for it. He is a central part of the process with incentives going to others and, what is worse, gets no respect.
              His dream is for a National Entrepreneur Day in which a grateful nation would honor and thank these "fallen soldiers".


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              • Profile picture of the author kilgore
                Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                I think you're bang on the money about overconfidence. That's certainly been my experience also. I don't know if you've read Nassim Taleb's book Antifragile, but his contention is that overconfidence is an essential trait in entrepreneurs. He cites the example of all the overconfident entrepreneurs who, against overwhelming odds of success, open new restaurants. Most fail, but each failure raises the bar and results in better quality restaurants for the few that succeed, to the overall benefit of the restaurant-going public. Their failure is necessary for the good of the whole. As he says: His dream is for a National Entrepreneur Day in which a grateful nation would honor and thank these "fallen soldiers".
                Thanks Frank. No I hadn't yet encountered Taleb, but I'll certainly check it out (especially now that Holiday shopping season is finally about finished!)

                That's the irony about overconfidence. It's so necessary for society as a whole, yet can be so dangerous for the individual entrepreneur. And I'd definitely vote for a National Entrepreneur Day! Though I think some more entrepreneurism-friendly policies might do even more good. I'll spare you the political speech, but I think it's something both parties could do much, much better on.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Yeah finally someone who is not a 72 yr. old retiree with a Social Security check of 8K month wins a big lotto.

      She seems like a good girl. She can buy more than a convertible mustang she talks about
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      • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
        I saw this on her website:

        three bird Nest began spontaneously once I realized the demand for boho & indie quality head wraps, lace headbands and turbands.
        Personally, the terms "boho" and "turbands" are new to me. OK, I'm not her audience. But she is speaking to someone, using their lingo.

        Did you also notice on her website the order form says "add to bag"

        Not buy. Not purchase. Not add to cart.

        Why is someone able to sell more headbands than someone else? I would say little things like this, which you need to pay attention to, are effective.

        Even the unusual lowercase / uppercase of the "brand" is interesting. "three bird Nest". I doubt the lead off sentence on the home page is going to have a mistaken typo.

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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
          Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

          I saw this on her website:

          Personally, the terms "boho" and "turbands" are new to me. OK, I'm not her audience. But she is speaking to someone, using their lingo.

          Did you also notice on her website the order form says "add to bag"

          Not buy. Not purchase. Not add to cart.

          Why is someone able to sell more headbands than someone else? I would say little things like, which you need to pay attention to, are effective.

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          I like this post. Truly insightful.

          I run 6 eCommerce stores and totally agree with kindsvater. Traditional high-street retail is dying, yet the principles that lead to many successful offline stores can be applied online. In many cases, it's as simple as overlaying the successful blueprint with something like "Add to Bag."

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        • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
          Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

          Mom makes $65,000 per month online (headbands folks)
          It's obviously more than just "mom" behind the business. This isn't just some stay at home mom throwing headbands up on Etsy to the tune of $65,000 per month. They sell a wide range of clothing that has to be designed, manufactured, imported, promoted, sold and shipped.

          Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

          Personally, the terms "boho" and "turbands" are new to me. OK, I'm not her audience. But she is speaking to someone, using their lingo.
          A subtle reminder to stick with what you know and to ignore the fake gooroo advice to position yourself as an expert in anything and everything.

          Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

          Did you also notice on her website the order form says "add to bag"

          Not buy. Not purchase. Not add to cart.
          The only place we see such an emphasis on "Add To Cart" is within the "make money online" guru cults.

          Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

          Why is someone able to sell more headbands than someone else?
          Sometimes there are forces at play that go beyond what's within the scope of marketing case studies. It is very possible that you could break down her business and still not find out why it took off.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
            Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

            The only place we see such an emphasis on "Add To Cart" is within the "make money online" guru cults.
            Yeah them and Home Depot Ryobi 6 gal. Vertical Pancake Compressor with 3 Nailers Combo Kit-YG63CK - The Home Depot and Amazon Fire HD 6 - Amazon's Official Site - Learn More as well as plenty of others.

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            • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
              Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

              I didn't say you don't see it anywhere else and I didn't say it's a bad thing.

              Surprise over an "add to bag" button is probably a symptom of not looking beyond the guru cults. There are other options that may be a better fit than "add to cart." You have to take it on a case by case basis.
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              • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
                Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

                Surprise over an "add to bag" button is probably a symptom of not looking beyond the guru cults.
                As I said on my post, you need to pay attention to detail.

                My comment about this was not surprise - never seen anyone refer to a bag before - but how the seller is "speaking" to an audience and little things like the order button can help create an experience which is helping this seller generate a lot of sales.

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            • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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              Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

              Mark, now you did it. DubDub will now explain how the Ryobi 6 gal is related to fake internet marketing gurus and how they are bad people.

              It is quite amazing to watch how everything circles back to his favorite topic - online gurus. Quite the unhealthy obsession it seems.
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              • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
                Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

                It is quite amazing to watch how everything circles back to his favorite topic - online gurus.
                Even more amazing is the insistence by some of "critiquing" posts instead of actually addressing the topic at hand.

                It should open some eyes that someone could start a business making headbands, get a brand going, a following, and leverage it out to other products, and to see what results are possible.

                There are a ton of money making ideas and strategies on the forum. None I have seen about starting with headbands, but paying attention to what she is doing can be applied to many other types of businesses.


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                • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                  Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

                  Even more amazing is the insistence by some of "critiquing" posts instead of actually addressing the topic at hand.

                  It should open some eyes that someone could start a business making headbands, get a brand going, a following, and leverage it out to other products, and to see what results are possible.

                  There are a ton of money making ideas and strategies on the forum. None I have seen about starting with headbands, but paying attention to what she is doing can be applied to many other types of businesses.
                  Indeed it should. I took a look at the headbands (I don't wear them) to see what the fuss was about and I love them ... I also love the boot socks. She obviously had a very specific and great idea in mind when she started that business.
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                  • Profile picture of the author myob
                    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

                    As I said on my post, you need to pay attention to detail.

                    My comment about this was not surprise - never seen anyone refer to a bag before - but how the seller is "speaking" to an audience and little things like the order button can help create an experience which is helping this seller generate a lot of sales.

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                    This may not provide much accord and satisfaction among all disputing parties, but as affirmed in this case by the testator and specifically attested in good faith by the OP to wit: for as in jus naturale, there are subtleties and nuances in language, grammar, writing style, and form that trigger direct response when optimized for targeted groups.

                    Although marketing prudence has apparently been in abeyance for quite some time here on the forum, the ipso facto, de facto, and ex post facto bottom line is that professionals who actually study such alleged buying behaviors have been courted ab initio, with no abatement in sight. You can take that negotiable instrument to the bank.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    This mom started an Etsy shop in 2011 to sell her headbands. She is now grossing $65,000 per month:

    https://www.yahoo.com/diy/secrets-of...472402320.html

    She says her success is from:

    - Her passion

    - Eat, sleep and breath your brand

    - Selling to wide range of buyers

    - Branching out to different product lines

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    Interesting read. I always like this type of story; you can pick up a lot, especially reading between the lines.

    Thanks.

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    Anybody can make any amount online these days... I do. Its the way of the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    When I was checking a couple big sites yesterday over the "add to cart" comment I saw that Barnes & Noble also uses "add to bag."

    I agree with the concept of looking beyond the forum to outside news, and outside success stories. I've often said that email marketing, for example, definitely 100% works when asked about it here and elsewhere. Else why would Microsoft, Amazon, Dell, etc. use it.

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    • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      I've often said that email marketing, for example, definitely 100% works when asked about it here and elsewhere. Else why would Microsoft, Amazon, Dell, etc. use it.
      Email marketing is a tool that can be used differently. Take a close look at how successful companies are using it and compare that to how the fake "make money online" gurus instruct newbies how to use it.

      Obtain new traffic (solo ads, sigwhoring, bullshittery) --> Squeeze page --> Email marketing

      The likelihood of finding success basing an entire business around that is remote. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's definitely not a realistic goal here in 2014. Targeting the modern internet user requires infrastructure that goes far beyond simply sending out some emails.
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      • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
        Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

        Email marketing is a tool that can be used differently. Take a close look at how successful companies are using it and compare that to how the fake "make money online" gurus instruct newbies how to use it.

        Obtain new traffic (solo ads, sigwhoring, bullshittery) --> Squeeze page --> Email marketing

        The likelihood of finding success basing an entire business around that is remote. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it's definitely not a realistic goal here in 2014. Targeting the modern internet user requires infrastructure that goes far beyond simply sending out some emails.
        The more I read your nonsense, the more I realize you have no idea what you're talking about. I sure hope nobody follows your advice. It is garbage at best.

        Sigh... oh how I wish there was a "block user" feature on this forum so I can finally stop seeing the BS you write and "beware the guru"/"beware the internet marketer" garbage you spit every chance you get.
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    Lol, note to moderators. When you delete someone's posts it make sit kinda hard to read the thread as everyone is quoting deleted posts.
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      Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

      Lol, note to moderators. When you delete someone's posts it make sit kinda hard to read the thread as everyone is quoting deleted posts.
      I read the thread in its original form.

      You did not miss anything.

      Just someone being negavite, rude and putting down a good post for no good reason in my humble opinion.

      To me, with the insinuation, it felt like a gratuitous attack more than anything

      The excuse of being brutally honest was used, me all I saw was just someone write a rude and disruptive post about the original post.

      This thread is very interesting because it raise awareness on what we can all learn outside of warrior forum and discuss it on warrior forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author collison
    She is successful because she is a talented designer and small manufacturer offering unique products to the marketplace. Products that she has designed and had manufactured. The brand has come to be received as high quality, because of the unique designs, and high quality materials used, leading to a lot of satisfied customers and hence some strong viral marketing effects.

    It is not possible to replicate this business with non-unique products imported for example on on Alibaba: You must have your own concepts, design capabilities and good manufacturing contacts to create unique products, build a strong brand reputation, to enable you to charge a premium price.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    There's at least 8 adults involved in that etsy shop but there's got to be even more employees because it would take a small army to pump out that many knitted products.

    In other words, she's only getting a fraction of the profit.

    The thing to learn from her would be the traffic source. You can bet most of that traffic is from outside of etsy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      There's at least 8 adults involved in that etsy shop but there's got to be even more employees because it would take a small army to pump out that many knitted products.

      In other words, she's only getting a fraction of the profit.

      The thing to learn from her would be the traffic source. You can bet most of that traffic is from outside of etsy.
      traffic source.. That is a very important marketing point. Very Important! In my business the net earnings is determined by driving constant targeted traffic to the offer or in my case.. to the website.

      Once online marketers learn that the source of the traffic is a major factor in profit margins the traffic generation models become more important than the offer itself.

      Good point Yukon!

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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyTorrents
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    This mom started an Etsy shop in 2011 to sell her headbands. She is now grossing $65,000 per month:

    https://www.yahoo.com/diy/secrets-of...472402320.html

    She says her success is from:

    - Her passion

    - Eat, sleep and breath your brand

    - Selling to wide range of buyers

    - Branching out to different product lines

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    I'm not surprised. You can make a killing from some super simple products. The difficult part is figuring out which products are in demand which can be done by checking eBays hot sellers list or Amazon's Best Sellers. I have been doing a lot of product research and I found a few really simple and cheap products that sell like hot-cakes.

    I think a lot of people get caught up with the idea that they need to come up with some magical product that the marketplace has never seen in order to be successful, but that's rarely the case.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Good for her.

    Just shows you that with a great idea and a market for it, you can make a lot of money if you know how to reach that audience fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author BusinessAce
    I did a search on "add to bag" - in addition to numerous literal "add to bag" listings, there were plenty of discussions on the 'add to cart' language and implementation, including this one I found very interesting:

    https://econsultancy.com/blog/10820-...est-practices/
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    Interesting and inspiring article. I agree there are some subtle and unique marketing angles she has used. She also had the good sense to keep expanding to include all types of women's clothing, jewelry and other products.
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  • Profile picture of the author SunnyDays81
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    This mom started an Etsy shop in 2011 to sell her headbands. She is now grossing $65,000 per month:

    https://www.yahoo.com/diy/secrets-of...472402320.html

    She says her success is from:

    - Her passion

    - Eat, sleep and breath your brand

    - Selling to wide range of buyers

    - Branching out to different product lines

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    This is essentially the "dream" scenario for every entrepreneur isn't it?

    Starting with nothing but a creative idea, and growing it into a bit of an empire.

    I like to come back to success stories like hers when things get tough in my world, and I feel like giving up the self employed dream in exchange for working 9-5 for "perceived" security.

    In all honesty, if this mom can make it then anyone can, me and YOU included.
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    Very interesting read, i think that the key in success is the passion!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Can't knock the hustle. I'm about to start making $65,000 per month online selling my own t-shirts that say: "Fear the 2/5".

    LOL. Like Lil' Kim said... "it don't matter how you get that guap it's all good". More power to this lady. Info-products aren't the only thing that can make people rich online.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoboyz01
    And, while that's an impressive number, the average income of an Etsy seller is much less. According to one survey, an average Etsy seller earns from $25,000 to $49,000 per year, with some earning as little as $100.

    Etsy economic impact report: Etsy crafters generate $895 million in annual sales, but face low wages themselves.

    Maybe the real problem arises as an artist reaches their own personal limit of what they can craft and rather than training employees and outsourcing, just work longer hours to fulfill orders. Obviously there will be a limit to what one person can do, so that always naturally caps income.
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      Originally Posted by seoboyz01 View Post


      Maybe the real problem arises as an artist reaches their own personal limit of what they can craft and rather than training employees and outsourcing, just work longer hours to fulfill orders. Obviously there will be a limit to what one person can do, so that always naturally caps income.
      And that pretty much sums it up.
      Some if not most etsy sellers love what they do, for its own sake. Money is secondary. And when they see that somebody else, somewhere in the world agrees and pays them for an item, their creative side is elated. That is how my wife used to feel.

      She has been an etsy seller for sometime now, But her sales were for the most part so-so. But she loved doing what she was doing and began considering a bricks and mortar boutique. This we managed to achieve, and to support that we built a website.

      The boutique gave her advantages, as we saw them anyway.She had a space to carry out all the admin. There are now fixed business hours. There's the obvious retail area, but most importantly of all, she now has somewhere to design and create products, without being disturbed.
      Since then, sales have rocketed, and she's building working relationships with people she'd never have met.

      Etsy is a great marketplace to get yourself on the map, but to take it to the next level, you have to spread your wings and like the woman in the ops post, you can make a hell of a good living, if you do it right.
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Originally Posted by seoboyz01 View Post

      an average Etsy seller earns from $25,000 to $49,000 per year
      I'd say that compares well to many common methods discussed on the forum. Etsy sellers do have to keep making products, which is different than writing a pdf and then selling it to multiple buyers.

      You could do both. Create products to sell on Etsy and other places, then also create pdf reports / videos / membership sites, etc., showing others how they can also make products. Or, if you don't want competition, how to make money on Etsy.

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      • Profile picture of the author kilgore
        Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

        Originally Posted by seoboyz01 View Post

        According to one survey, an average Etsy seller earns from $25,000 to $49,000 per year
        I'd say that compares well to many common methods discussed on the forum. Etsy sellers do have to keep making products, which is different than writing a pdf and then selling it to multiple buyers.
        Actually, if you read that report the $25,000 - $49,000 per year is household income -- in other words the total amount of money earned from all sources by all income producers in the family. The amount of money that was actually earned on Etsy was undoubtedly much, much less.
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  • Profile picture of the author mariailyas
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    This mom started an Etsy shop in 2011 to sell her headbands. She is now grossing $65,000 per month:

    https://www.yahoo.com/diy/secrets-of...472402320.html

    She says her success is from:

    - Her passion

    - Eat, sleep and breath your brand

    - Selling to wide range of buyers

    - Branching out to different product lines

    .
    thats really inspirational. my sister opened a similar online boutique selling handmade floral headbands. unfortuante for her, she didnt have enough motivation to continue it. but this is very inspirational. you just need motivation and dedication for your business to run.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      the average income of an Etsy seller is much less.
      So what?

      I guess that would deter those who only look at Etsy as a way to "make money for me" - but for people who have a passion or create a product they love, it's not relevant.

      Most business platforms have more losers than winners - welcome to real life. Trick is to put yourself on the winning side.
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  • Profile picture of the author ahmadashfaq
    Just think about how much effort she put in there to reach that goal. Its not a months effort, it takes years..
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  • Profile picture of the author x3xsolxdierx3x
    It looks like she has had some great success here.

    After surveying her reviews, if I could make one suggestion to her, it would be to find a way to tighten up on her customer service. When you get thousands of orders a day, I know it can be challenging...especially if she is a one person operation, however, there does appear to be a number of buyers leaving 1 star/poor reviews namely because of various issues, not to mention, not hearing back from the seller, regarding those issues.

    Those reviews, like on Amazon, should really be seen and treated as a business asset...and, they should be nurtured. I know there are various schools of thought on that, and where it is most cost effective to invest time, however, I tend to be of the mentality that it may be worthwhile to hire an additional hand, if necessary, just to respond to customer concerns, questions, etc.
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