Keyword problem

petelta · 07-12-2009, 09:32 PM

One of my keywords Im using says it gets 40,500 searches a month on Google Keyword Tool but when I checked the site on website grader it said it gets 47 searches a month. It had super low totals for all my other keywords it showed too. Im a little confused since the number is so low. Just go with google?

Steven Carl Kelly · 07-12-2009, 09:48 PM

Google KW tool numbers are WAY high for organic Google.com searches.

Versus · 07-12-2009, 10:01 PM

Is there any other web-based keyword trackers available, that are more reliable?

(and hi, first post ^_^)

Mustafa Khundmiri · 07-12-2009, 10:16 PM

Use wordtracker if you can pay for it, a very reliable research tool that has been around for ages. Every professional Internet marketer swears by it.

Steven Carl Kelly · 07-13-2009, 07:36 AM

I have found no reliable 3rd party tool for Google.com organic search volumes. I dumped Wordtracker quite some time ago when my own testing proved that for the keywords I was working the results I was getting from WT were nowhere near correct for me.

shakir · 07-13-2009, 07:43 AM

Some also saying that Google tool gvies more tha actual.. But almost are telling its perfect. me also believing that Google is the perfect...

Joshua.E1 · 07-13-2009, 08:02 AM

The google keyword tool can be too boastful at times, but all the other keyword tools are still in a specify search engine result.

The good thing about Google is that it shows the search result in particular country. If you only targeting a particular country use Google.

Hope it helps you.

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solotr · 07-15-2009, 07:00 PM

I don't know if this will help, but it beats nothing. When using the Google Adwords keyword tool...switch your search to "exact" instead of phrase and it gives you a more accurate number...at least better than using broad match.

I also turn off global search, especially if I'm targeting just the US. I've seen 50,000 plus phrase match searches drop to 500 exact match searches by using this.

geolt7 · 07-15-2009, 08:56 PM

For me, I just take whatever data google and wordtracker gives me. This is because even some popular keyword research tools use the google and wordtracket APIs and hence their data.

I do not think that the data is 100% accurate though. However, from what I have experienced so far, the important of search count for keyword is secondary. Sure you need search count but, even if there are only 5 counts per day, that is more than 150 searches per month!

I place more emphasis on the strength of competition which is key to finding keywords that have search count and yet easy to rank.

rlrlphs · 07-15-2009, 09:34 PM

THey are very different because when you say Google Keyword Tool it gives you an idea on how many competitors you have on that keyword. And in Google Searches it gives you the exact site or phrase based on your search.

Loloy Diango · 07-15-2009, 11:41 PM

If you happen to have the money to spend, try getting your hands on Micro Niche Finder. It saves you a lot of time researching for keywords and allows you to work on your online business, instead of working in it.

Emmanuel Betinis · 07-16-2009, 01:41 AM

As has been advised here already, change your search from "Broad"
match to "Exact" match in Google's keyword tool.

NOW what do your numbers say?

mystarter · 07-16-2009, 10:36 AM

100% correct.

Firstly, use 'exact' instead of 'broad' and u will see your numbers will drop.

Secondly, don't forget to check your competition on three major SEs for your keywords.

Thirdly, use KEI as the best measurement to compare 'profitability' of the keywords.

Cheers..

p/s: PM me if you need a help in getting above three data (free) for the keywords in your niche.

07-12-2009, 09:32 PM	#1
petelta Travis Petelle War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 582 Thanks: 56 Thanked 143 Times in 65 Posts	Keyword problem One of my keywords Im using says it gets 40,500 searches a month on Google Keyword Tool but when I checked the site on website grader it said it gets 47 searches a month. It had super low totals for all my other keywords it showed too. Im a little confused since the number is so low. Just go with google?
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Versus Pronto Tonto! War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne - Australia Posts: 38 Thanks: 26 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Keyword problem Is there any other web-based keyword trackers available, that are more reliable? (and hi, first post ^_^)

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Mustafa Khundmiri HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 116 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: Keyword problem Use wordtracker if you can pay for it, a very reliable research tool that has been around for ages. Every professional Internet marketer swears by it.

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Steven Carl Kelly Trust Christ Alone War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,106 Thanks: 23 Thanked 375 Times in 201 Posts	Re: Keyword problem I have found no reliable 3rd party tool for Google.com organic search volumes. I dumped Wordtracker quite some time ago when my own testing proved that for the keywords I was working the results I was getting from WT were nowhere near correct for me.
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Joshua.E1 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 262 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Keyword problem The google keyword tool can be too boastful at times, but all the other keyword tools are still in a specify search engine result. The good thing about Google is that it shows the search result in particular country. If you only targeting a particular country use Google. Hope it helps you. Joshua.E Website Building Tips For Beginners

07-15-2009, 07:00 PM	#8
solotr Solotr Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 27 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Keyword problem I don't know if this will help, but it beats nothing. When using the Google Adwords keyword tool...switch your search to "exact" instead of phrase and it gives you a more accurate number...at least better than using broad match. I also turn off global search, especially if I'm targeting just the US. I've seen 50,000 plus phrase match searches drop to 500 exact match searches by using this.
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geolt7 Blogging Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 174 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Keyword problem For me, I just take whatever data google and wordtracker gives me. This is because even some popular keyword research tools use the google and wordtracket APIs and hence their data. I do not think that the data is 100% accurate though. However, from what I have experienced so far, the important of search count for keyword is secondary. Sure you need search count but, even if there are only 5 counts per day, that is more than 150 searches per month! I place more emphasis on the strength of competition which is key to finding keywords that have search count and yet easy to rank.
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rlrlphs HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 113 Thanks: 12 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Keyword problem THey are very different because when you say Google Keyword Tool it gives you an idea on how many competitors you have on that keyword. And in Google Searches it gives you the exact site or phrase based on your search.

07-15-2009, 11:41 PM	#11
Loloy Diango The Nichetracker War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In a land called Mindanao Posts: 271 Thanks: 71 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Keyword problem If you happen to have the money to spend, try getting your hands on Micro Niche Finder. It saves you a lot of time researching for keywords and allows you to work on your online business, instead of working in it.
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Emmanuel Betinis SEO Test Is Now ON! War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 652 Thanks: 64 Thanked 37 Times in 31 Posts Social Networking	Re: Keyword problem As has been advised here already, change your search from "Broad" match to "Exact" match in Google's keyword tool. NOW what do your numbers say?
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07-16-2009, 10:36 AM	#13
mystarter HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Green House Posts: 154 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 6 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Keyword problem 100% correct. Firstly, use 'exact' instead of 'broad' and u will see your numbers will drop. Secondly, don't forget to check your competition on three major SEs for your keywords. Thirdly, use KEI as the best measurement to compare 'profitability' of the keywords. Cheers.. p/s: PM me if you need a help in getting above three data (free) for the keywords in your niche.