Breaking Away From Content Mills...

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My name's Stephanie and I'm very new around here.

I've been content writing for a bit over a year, and about 3 months ago I finally had it with the content mills I was writing for. Clients are constantly raising their standards while lowering their rates and I was sick of working my butt off for pennies.

I paid for a domain, put together a website, and have been tweaking it now for weeks. I'm having trouble getting clients—I send at least three query letters out daily to businesses with weak website content and/or copy, but I've yet to get a bite. All emails are personalized.

I've tried craigslist, no bites. I've only made about $70 on Elance and am not really sure it's worth my time at this point.

What suggestions do you have for a fairly new writer without testimonials? I mean, I have a few testimonials from my content mill days, and one from Elance, but I'm not sure how ethical those would be to use on my site since they were services offered elsewhere.

I appreciate any help and I look forward to gleaning wisdom from you all!

Stephanie
#breaking #content #mills
  • Profile picture of the author edyang
    Stephanie,

    Are there certain areas or industries that you are an expert in? I'd say to move away from website copywriting and move towards serious content writing.

    I am an owner of a small PR agency. I can tell you that we are always looking for strong content writers.

    The problem we run into are writers who are generalists but are unable to create compelling content in certain niches such as security technology or health care.

    Frankly, for strong content writers, it shouldn't matter. For instance, I can research an industry and get up to speed on it, then write very good content myself for clients. But as an owner, I'm really looking to outsource all content writing.

    I would move upstream in your services. Contact PR agencies like myself and offer to ghostwrite bylined articles.

    For instance, I pay one writer about $200 to write a strong 700 word article on a particular industry topic.

    Please PM me with your contact info and let's see if we can work something out for a test article.

    Regarding eLance, don't give it up. It can be quite lucrative, but if you're competing against a large field of providers, you need to position yourself.

    For instance, position yourself at the high end of the market for articles that are more nuanced and complex, then charge accordingly.

    With eLance, the number of jobs, amount earned and your rating all factor into how you rank when people search. So early on you may wish to take some jobs at very low rates just to build that up.

    PM me and let's talk.

    Ed
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    • Profile picture of the author stephaniebruce
      Originally Posted by edyang View Post

      Stephanie,

      Are there certain areas or industries that you are an expert in? I'd say to move away from website copywriting and move towards serious content writing.

      I am an owner of a small PR agency. I can tell you that we are always looking for strong content writers.

      The problem we run into are writers who are generalists but are unable to create compelling content in certain niches such as security technology or health care.

      Frankly, for strong content writers, it shouldn't matter. For instance, I can research an industry and get up to speed on it, then write very good content myself for clients. But as an owner, I'm really looking to outsource all content writing.

      I would move upstream in your services. Contact PR agencies like myself and offer to ghostwrite bylined articles.

      For instance, I pay one writer about $200 to write a strong 700 word article on a particular industry topic.

      Please PM me with your contact info and let's see if we can work something out for a test article.

      Regarding eLance, don't give it up. It can be quite lucrative, but if you're competing against a large field of providers, you need to position yourself.

      For instance, position yourself at the high end of the market for articles that are more nuanced and complex, then charge accordingly.

      With eLance, the number of jobs, amount earned and your rating all factor into how you rank when people search. So early on you may wish to take some jobs at very low rates just to build that up.

      PM me and let's talk.

      Ed
      Now, here's a question I have when asked about expert industries: What makes one an expert? A degree? A strong following of their blog/twitter/etc.?

      I will say one thing: Content mills have given me the ability to research any topic and come up with a unique angle/spin on the topic. That has been invaluable to me.

      I would say health and law articles are the ones I write with the most ease. Granted, I don't have a degree in either, but I've taken college classes in both and am fascinated with both. However, I can write on any number of topics, such as construction, home and garden, etc.

      I'm wondering how much resistance I'll face positioning myself as a medical and/or legal writer, as I have no actual experience in either field (except, of course, the patient side of medicine).

      Lots to think about--thanks!

      And the PM is sent.

      Stephanie Bruce
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      • Profile picture of the author edyang
        Originally Posted by stephaniebruce View Post

        Now, here's a question I have when asked about expert industries: What makes one an expert? A degree? A strong following of their blog/twitter/etc.?
        I would say it's actually none of the above. You don't need a degree in health care to write about health care. Nor do you need a JD to write an article for a legal pub UNLESS it is a highly detailed and nuanced article where you must understand precedents, legal statutes etc.

        But the vast majority of content writing jobs out there don't require that level of knowledge.

        Here's an example. My firm reps a security service company whose product would be highly beneficial to lawyers. Thus, I'd pitch an article to the editor at a technology law magazine, then outsource the writing. The content writer then has to write about the gaps in security regarding technology that could pose a threat to law firms, and what the solution is (alluding to my client's service in a subtle way).

        None of this requires a degree in the field, but it does require the ability to read voraciously on the topic, synthesize and craft a compelling article.

        Yes, this takes time, but you then charge accordingly. Many PR and marketing agencies would gladly pay for a very well done article that doesn't require much editing, and that editors find well-written enough that it gets published (ghostwriting).

        Thanks for your info, I will contact you via PM.

        Regards,

        Ed
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  • Profile picture of the author smedia11
    You most likely can get a host of testimonials from warrior-forum folks in exchange for writing a free or low-cost article.

    Check the classified ads section.

    Good Luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author stephaniebruce
      Originally Posted by smedia11 View Post

      You most likely can get a host of testimonials from warrior-forum folks in exchange for writing a free or low-cost article.

      Check the classified ads section.

      Good Luck.
      This has been something I've been weighing for a few days now. I'll definitely give it a more thorough look. Thanks!

      Stephanie Bruce
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    Sounds like you have developed some excellent content writing skills and that will serve you well because content is critical.

    WF has a content writing section for freelancers which is worth a look.

    If it was me I would create 2 websites around a theme and use your content exclusively for you.

    Monetise it with affiliate links or product reviews linked to your niche.

    Wishing you all the very best
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    • Profile picture of the author James Druman
      Originally Posted by stephaniebruce View Post

      My name's Stephanie and I'm very new around here.

      I've been content writing for a bit over a year, and about 3 months ago I finally had it with the content mills I was writing for. Clients are constantly raising their standards while lowering their rates and I was sick of working my butt off for pennies.
      Good on you for getting out of there. No one should have to subject themselves to that kind of slave labor.

      I paid for a domain, put together a website, and have been tweaking it now for weeks. I'm having trouble getting clients—I send at least three query letters out daily to businesses with weak website content and/or copy, but I've yet to get a bite. All emails are personalized.
      Daily for how many days? Three a day is not a ton, but it's good you're putting time into personalizing them.

      How are you choosing the companies?

      Perhaps if you posted an example of a query letter here we could give some advice. I normally wouldn't suggest such a thing, but if it's not yielding results anyhow, at least you could get perspective on what you're doing wrong.

      I've tried craigslist, no bites. I've only made about $70 on Elance and am not really sure it's worth my time at this point.
      I assure you that Elance is not a waste of time. It gets a bad rap, but I built my business on Elance and still use it from time to time, often making $50 - $100 per hour or more.

      It's all in positioning. You've also got to bid on quite a few jobs to get the ball rolling because conversions can be low. But the better clients will often use you for years to come, so it's worth it.

      What suggestions do you have for a fairly new writer without testimonials? I mean, I have a few testimonials from my content mill days, and one from Elance, but I'm not sure how ethical those would be to use on my site since they were services offered elsewhere.
      I don't see anything inethical about that at all. Do the content mills have a stipulation against it?

      Elance is a good place to garner a few testimonials. Just do a few small jobs for the feedback and then move them to your website. If you connect with anyone on LinkedIn that you've worked with, it's pretty easy to request a recommendation and then paste that on your site.

      Originally Posted by edyang View Post

      Stephanie,

      Are there certain areas or industries that you are an expert in? I'd say to move away from website copywriting and move towards serious content writing.

      I am an owner of a small PR agency. I can tell you that we are always looking for strong content writers.
      PR companies are my favorite clients to work for. A great market to target.

      They've got a budget, they've got realistic expectations, they believe in creative and high-quality campaigns, and they value your skillset. They make great testimonials and have a constant flow of work.

      Originally Posted by stephaniebruce View Post

      Now, here's a question I have when asked about expert industries: What makes one an expert? A degree? A strong following of their blog/twitter/etc.?
      Stephanie - set out to become an expert in something.

      Pick an interesting niche you're somewhat familiar with or interested in (a lucrative one), grab a stack of the most recent books on the topic, and start following interesting blogs. Think of it as your apprenticeship.

      You'll become more knowledgeable as you go. Anyone who wants to excel in their industry needs to study on their own time - the writing profession is no different.

      I don't completely specialize. I have a few niches I write on often, but I'm more of a generalist. You can make it this way, but Ed is perfectly correct that the more direct path to success is specialization.
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  • Profile picture of the author QueenMelanie
    Try Odesk. It is hard to get your first orders, but if you are persistent you can get a writing job easily on Odesk, just make sure you ace it to get a good review which will kickstart your freelancing profile !
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by stephaniebruce View Post

    What suggestions do you have for a fairly new writer without testimonials?
    Acquire testimonials.

    It won't be easy to get work without them.

    Originally Posted by stephaniebruce View Post

    I have a few testimonials from my content mill days, and one from Elance, but I'm not sure how ethical those would be to use on my site since they were services offered elsewhere.
    You can specify that and still get some value from them, I think, as long as doing so wouldn't be breaching the TOS of the sites at which you got them?

    The big mistake to avoid is to "start cheap" imagining that you can increase the prices once you have some customers. This market doesn't work that way, and there are reasons for that. They're real and reliable and valid reasons and they'll apply to you just like they apply to everyone else.

    (If you have to write a couple of "cheapies" just to get your initial testimonials, then so be it, I suppose, but don't make a habit of it! ).

    Key concept (i): at the bottom end of the market, there are almost as many service-providers as customers, so that's the hardest way to earn anything.

    Key concept (ii): what attracts customers to buy the services of people who write articles for $5-$10 is the price: as soon as that increases, all the customers disappear (to become customers of one of the thousands of other people from all over the world offering the service at that price), and the service-provider effectively has to start all over again.

    Key concept (iii): the main reason you see providers of $5-$10 articles continually advertising and marketing is that their clients businesses' tend not to survive (mostly because they don't know how to use the product, rather than because the product itself is no good - though that can also sometimes be true), so they have to replace them all the time. The main reason you don't see providers of $100-$150 articles advertising at all is that their clients know how to use the product, profit from it and return regularly for more articles, with the effect that those writers tend to have all the work they want without needing to advertise at all. (A small proportion of those articles do actually change hands through Constant-Content, as well.) At lower prices, article-writers need continually to be marketing their own services. People who want their income to depend entirely on their own marketing skills should become marketers, not service providers.

    If you want some more information on the big, common mistakes involved in starting an article-writing business, these resources may prove valuable ...

    Warrior Forum resources:
    Writing Articles - I'm Done
    How much can you make writing articles?
    How do I make money writing articles???
    Would you still do freelance writing?
    Can anyone suggest good pay, high quality writing jobs?
    Content Writing - Still Viable?
    Are There Many Clients Who Pay $50/Article?
    The appropriate rate for written content is ?
    You must be a superstar professional writer BUT I can only pay you $2 per article - say WHAT?
    Any point in trying to find clients on Warrior Forum..?
    Is it hard to make 30K a year from writing?


    Other resources:
    Jennifer Mattern's blog
    Carol Tice's blog
    Free report
    on how to attract new freelance writing clients during a recession
    The Renegade Writer Blog
    The "Irreverent Freelancer" blog
    The Well-Fed Writer: Lucrative Commercial Freelance Writing - Land Lucrative Freelance Writing Jobs
    Words on the Page.


    I haven't, myself, clicked on all of these for a few months, so apologies in advance for any defunct links, above (which there easily could be, by now ).

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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Content Mills business model is positioned to benefit the owner
    and not the writers. Entry level is often low so you have no argument
    against them rather than just leaving and then there is a line of
    people waiting to join.

    Most writers finally burn out after a while and then try to change
    their business model just as you are doing now. It's a pity what
    these content mills have done for the freelance writing business
    in general. They have devalued the craft but who is to blame but
    the writers who chose to write at such low prices.

    -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author katherineolga
    My biggest piece of advice is to find a niche to work in. Then, write a few samples in that a niche. You can publish them on your site or somewhere like hubpages. Then, when you pitch clients, highlight your niche in your pitch email and make sure they can view your samples. Testimonials are NOT a barrier. I've been writing for clients for the past decade and have consistently been too lazy to post my testimonials on my site. I have more than enough work, too. Be confident in your abilities as a writer and eventually people will hire you. Also, stick with it. I got my first client after writing something like 90 bids on one of the freelance bid sites and I only got paid $16 for that project.
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