Make 2237$ EVERY WEEK with NO WORK !

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I’m sick of all those promising BS systems:
“MAKE XXX WITHOUT EFFORT!! / MAKE 100$ EVERY DAY!! / MAKE 789$ EVERY DAY ON AUTOPILOT! BLA BLA”
Virtually every 'Make Money Online' course, website, ebook, blog, etc. will explain the goal of internet marketing is to have a system that will make you money by not doing anything, on autopilot.
All these “products” and courses that I bought, thought me the exact same, basic steps so I’m putting them here for free. Those systems all won’t make you rich, but dedication might. Common steps:
  • find a product or offer you would like to promote.
  • create articles and other content promoting that product or offer.
  • get traffic to those articles/websites/whatever.
Laid out like that it really looks simple doesn't it? You can even do it with or without your own website. Just 3 simple steps to make money online that will be in all those shitty guides! A lot of courses talk about the “Rule of 7” Basically what they teach is you should follow this formula:
  • find a product to sell.
  • set up a website targeted for people who want to buy that product.
  • entice visitors to submit email address for newsletter.
  • use an email autoresponder to send series of newsletters promoting the paid product.
  • set up a traffic campaign to get visitors to your website who want to buy that product.
Those 5 basic steps give you a powerful (yet still simple) formula to make money online. But there is still a lot to research for every of those step, it won’t happen over night, like a lot of systems claim. Execute those steps very well, not in a haste, and only then you will see results.

At the basic level, it really is that simple. That's why online marketing appeals so much to the 'Get Rich Quick' seeker. The problem is that 'simple' does not necessarily mean 'easy'. Where it gets more complicated is in making sure each of those steps are done effectively. This is where the 'Get Rich Quick' seekers jump off the bandwagon and start yelling SCAM. As I said above, 'simple' isn't the same thing as 'easy'. While the 'Get Rich Quick' books do overhype how easy it is to get results, it's still a fact that this is a proven system.

If you really want to learn how to make money online, you need to ignore the hype. There is no way that anyone can guarantee that you can make XX amount of money in XX amount of time. There are too many variables that have to be taken into consideration. Everything from how good you are at niche research all the way through how good you are at understanding the material and following instructions.

The most important things you have to ask yourself are "What are your actual expectations?", and "How well do you understand what your actually doing for each step?".
Your expectations will determine how long you'll follow through with the plan. If you expect to make $10,000 in two weeks, and after 3 weeks you still haven't made a sale then you'll probably give up and call it a scam, (That's usually caused by salespages making unrealistic promises). Even more importantly is how well you understand what needs to be done for each step. Even if it is possible to make $10,000 in two weeks, it isn't likely to happen unless you do everything exactly right.
Your expectation shouldn't be to make $10,000 in two weeks. Instead, your goal should be to learn exactly how to do each step necessary for a successful marketing campaign.

So, if you've been searching google, forums, blogs, ebooks, etc. for the answer to "How to make money online?", or even worse looking for "How to Get Rich Quick?", then you're asking the wrong questions. You've probably already found that answer over and over again, but keep ignoring it because that 3 step or 5 step formula I outlined above isn't complete enough for you to understand how to make it work.

Instead you should be asking questions about how to do each of those steps; "How do I find a good product to sell?", "How do I find the best niche to market in?", "How do I set up a website that effectively promotes a product?" "How do I write articles that will lead a prospect to buy?", "How do I entice visitors to submit their emails?", "How do I get visitors to my website that are looking to buy?"
"How do I make money online?" is the wrong question. You just have to learn to ask the right questions. Finding answers to all those more specific questions are how you'll learn to make money online.

Affiliate Marketing is a real business, and the education s all around you, but affiliate marketing won't make you rich over night, so if you're scared of working, then you should quit now.


/rant
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  • Profile picture of the author johnlagoudakis
    Good rant Joe

    I'd like to add that a big problem that exists in the IM industry is the model of earning income from 'product launches'.

    I see some 'respected' marketers brag about how well they are doing with their latest (weekly) launch.

    All I can think to myself is, "How can you sleep at night knowing you're making money from total newbies, selling product after product that is already out there under a different name?"

    That's why newbies suffer info overload.


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    • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
      Originally Posted by johnlagoudakis View Post

      Good rant Joe

      I'd like to add that a big problem that exists in the IM industry is the model of earning income from 'product launches'.

      I see some 'respected' marketers brag about how well they are doing with their latest (weekly) launch.

      All I can think to myself is, "How can you sleep at night knowing you're making money from total newbies, selling product after product that is already out there under a different name?"

      That's why newbies suffer info overload.


      John
      You can make money from product launches in any profitable niche market. For instance, I do it within the internet marketing niche and outside of it. I personally prefer to work outside of internet marketing more. The key is to promote quality products. If a product sucks, just recommend a legitimate product in it's place. In the niche I work in outside of IM, I haven't had one refund, yet. The only down side to it is that it is not as fast-paced as IM, but I guess most niches aren't.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    Ranting is nice but that rant is pretty close to worthless. It outlines the
    what but says nothing about the how.

    A monkey with a note in his mouth can teach you all about what you
    should do to create wealth. Only the masters who have done it can teach
    you the how.

    The how is 99% of the deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Lumbergh
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      Ranting is nice but that rant is pretty close to worthless. It outlines the
      what but says nothing about the how.

      A monkey with a note in his mouth can teach you all about what you
      should do to create wealth. Only the masters who have done it can teach
      you the how.

      The how is 99% of the deal.
      What if I told you, that your answer is even more worthless than my rant?
      What if I told you that 99% of warriorforum posts are worthless and only there to increase post count?

      And BTW: most WSO's teach you the same "what" without the "how" and charge you 20$+.
      How about you go to their sales-threads, and compare them to monkeys with a note in their mouth?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
        Originally Posted by Joe Lumbergh View Post

        What if I told you, that your answer is even more worthless than my rant?
        What if I told you that 99% of warriorforum posts are worthless and only there to increase post count?

        And BTW: most WSO's teach you the same "what" without the "how" and charge you 20$+.
        How about you go to their sales-threads, and compare them to monkeys with a note in their mouth?
        Do you have a point? I ask because it doesn't seem obvious...

        By the way... you could tell me that but you'd be wrong. But let's pretend
        for a moment that you'd be right. That wouldn't change the fact that your rant
        offered nothing of value.
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        • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
          Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

          Do you have a point? I ask because it doesn't seem obvious...

          By the way... you could tell me that but you'd be wrong. But let's pretend
          for a moment that you'd be right. That wouldn't change the fact that your rant
          offered nothing of value.
          Troll alert...Really T did you have put that out there? the only part of nothing of value was your reply no soup for you
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Lumbergh
          Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

          Do you have a point? I ask because it doesn't seem obvious...

          By the way... you could tell me that but you'd be wrong. But let's pretend
          for a moment that you'd be right. That wouldn't change the fact that your rant
          offered nothing of value.
          I made some great points.
          Instead of throwing around logical fallacies I suggest you open a new thread and provide some real value by sharing "how" (the missing 99%) so we can all make loads of money.

          Btw: Value is subjective, maybe some newbies found value in my rant. Instead of being edgy you could've agreed or disagreed or just let it go.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by Joe Lumbergh View Post

            I made some great points.
            Instead of throwing around logical fallacies I suggest you open a new thread and provide some real value by sharing "how" (the missing 99%) so we can all make loads of money.
            You did make some good points. no doubt...... but about that last line....this one...

            "provide some real value by sharing "how" (the missing 99%) so we can all make loads of money"

            No the we wouldn't want it or buy it or follow through. I've seen some great WSOs and products......and almost all of them flopped. A ton load of the worse ones I have seen are SUPER popular. There's a reason for that. What a lot of people miss is that sellers don't determine the market...buyers do. if

            "Make 2237$ EVERY WEEK with NO WORK !"

            turned all the buyers off as stupid and unrealistic then sellers would stop it . They continue because its what buyers want to hear. Its what you (collectively since you said "we") want and are looking for. In all my years here I have never seen any product do well with a title like this

            "If You Work Really Hard, Think, Put In Sweat and Tears and Try as Hard as You Can for The Next Year You Will Make Serious Money"

            Kiss of death.

            Once people read copy that tells them they may have to work they hit the back button and are onto the next offer. Seen it over and over and over and over again. Even without titles like that as soon as the potential buyer figures out - "hmmmm This might take work" they are on to the next link to find the magical push button system.

            I love a good rant against sellers like the next guy but truth is sellers don't make themselves successful by offering what no one wants. Its a great frustration to many people who would offer real, feasible realistic opportunity products because frankly

            You all don't want to buy em. You are afraid of work or straining your brain ( the "you" there is not personal but collectively as a group)

            Oh you'll come on a thread and say well show me then ( for free) but then thats just more of the it should be easy and cost me next to nothing mentality.

            and product launches??? Same thing. If you looked and searched for quality in the WSO threads and then recommended the sellers that made quality offers to all your friends then product launches wouldn't be as big as they are. As it is the "we" don't buy on quality .

            The "we" buy on hype

            You buy because the product launch gives you the impression that perhaps this is the missing Alladin's lamp that must exist somewhere (and because instead of looking and searching the offer appeared in your inbox automatically). The more hype the more you look into it and buy it up while the last product that offered something of value is buried on page 12 with one inquiry.

            So bottom line and to put it short and sweet. Want to fix sellers?

            Physicians/buyers...heal thy selves.
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  • Profile picture of the author AngelaWest85
    Im with johnlagoudakis on this and have seen his work and he knows what he is talking about.Need to be in the now with new quality content
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Some good stuff. Really !!!

      But honestly the title and the 'enticement' to open the Thread based on that title has been done over and over again here at WF

      You know , " How to earn one million dollars on complete auto pilot" Then the creator of thread introduces himself by saying how he is sick of seeing these Threads ( or products) after he just started one like it with his title.
      Trying to prove a point I guess

      But just over kill in my opinion with people continually doing this


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  • Profile picture of the author jempub
    Great post Joe!

    Here's the NO hype version...

    Making money online isn't rocket science.

    Pick a niche,

    build a list,

    promote products to that list.

    Just be consistent in your daily tasks.

    Treat it for what it is... A BUSINESS!

    Chat soon,
    Gary
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  • Profile picture of the author TeKn1qu3z
    It's a pity pain to read such books and forum threads. If the seller knows such type, then why he selling ebooks for $2 or $10 and so on?

    I bought an Adsense book 6 years back, but never made the money at least the cost of ebook.
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  • Profile picture of the author hometutor
    The problem is the low investment it takes to start an online business

    My saying remains

    The best thing about the internet is you can start a business in five minutes
    The worst thing about the internet is you can start a business in five minutes

    Rick
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  • Profile picture of the author barbling
    You are not your customer.

    You have to remember that most people will NEVER do ANYTHING with the information they buy... like people who try to lose weight or get fit, they'll buy product after product because it makes them feel good.

    But when it comes to actually implementing the methods? They'll freeze and give themselves ANY excuse NOT to put up a buy button.

    And that's okay. Because everyone has their own timetable for gaining confidence to actually make things happen.

    EVERYONE knows that if it sounds too good, it's just not true.

    Yet how many people still buy diet pills?

    How many people still buy The Ab Roller?

    How many people still buy the latest bright shiny object?

    They're not buying the product to USE the product... they're buying it to feel good about themselves.

    And ideally when they finally get up the courage... they will then dare to succeed.

    YMMV, of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author emmerson
    Despite the reason for the OP starting this thread, it is so true that what the newbies wants to know when they try to find out how to make money online is far from the info they receive. I have been there, like many of us reading extremely general or outdated info that leaves you interested and inspired but too intimidated to start anything. Its all about the right questions to ask. But those questions don't sell WSOs
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Originally Posted by Joe Lumbergh View Post

    Instead you should be asking questions about how to do each of those steps; "How do I find a good product to sell?", "How do I find the best niche to market in?", "How do I set up a website that effectively promotes a product?" "How do I write articles that will lead a prospect to buy?", "How do I entice visitors to submit their emails?", "How do I get visitors to my website that are looking to buy?"
    "How do I make money online?" is the wrong question.
    Good Post Joe!

    I can sense your frustration and what you said makes sense. But here's the thing...

    Any good system or course should have disclaimers telling you what you will need to do in order to find success.

    But when I came online back in 2005, I typed in the words "How to Make Money Online".

    To tell you the truth, if I knew how much work it really takes to make money online (like and adult), I would have probably never started.

    I actually feel 'lucky' to find out the hard way.

    And another thing...

    This is a process. You start off typing in stuff like make money first and then work your way up to the point of success by failing again and again until you finally 'decide' to really make it work.

    And finally...

    In the time we are in now, most people 'get it' (meaning that most people are well educated and understand that this isn't a lottery and REAL Work is involved).
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    The best thing about the internet is you can start a business in five minutes
    That's about how long most people stick with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author eat911
    Originally Posted by Joe Lumbergh View Post

    I'm sick of all those promising BS systems:Virtually every 'Make Money Online' course, website, ebook, blog, etc. will explain the goal of internet marketing is to have a system that will make you money by not doing anything, on autopilot.
    All these "products" and courses that I bought, thought me the exact same, basic steps so I'm putting them here for free. Those systems all won't make you rich, but dedication might. Common steps:
    • find a product or offer you would like to promote.
    • create articles and other content promoting that product or offer.
    • get traffic to those articles/websites/whatever.
    Laid out like that it really looks simple doesn't it? You can even do it with or without your own website. Just 3 simple steps to make money online that will be in all those shitty guides! A lot of courses talk about the "Rule of 7" Basically what they teach is you should follow this formula:
    • find a product to sell.
    • set up a website targeted for people who want to buy that product.
    • entice visitors to submit email address for newsletter.
    • use an email autoresponder to send series of newsletters promoting the paid product.
    • set up a traffic campaign to get visitors to your website who want to buy that product.
    Those 5 basic steps give you a powerful (yet still simple) formula to make money online. But there is still a lot to research for every of those step, it won't happen over night, like a lot of systems claim. Execute those steps very well, not in a haste, and only then you will see results.

    At the basic level, it really is that simple. That's why online marketing appeals so much to the 'Get Rich Quick' seeker. The problem is that 'simple' does not necessarily mean 'easy'. Where it gets more complicated is in making sure each of those steps are done effectively. This is where the 'Get Rich Quick' seekers jump off the bandwagon and start yelling SCAM. As I said above, 'simple' isn't the same thing as 'easy'. While the 'Get Rich Quick' books do overhype how easy it is to get results, it's still a fact that this is a proven system.

    If you really want to learn how to make money online, you need to ignore the hype. There is no way that anyone can guarantee that you can make XX amount of money in XX amount of time. There are too many variables that have to be taken into consideration. Everything from how good you are at niche research all the way through how good you are at understanding the material and following instructions.

    The most important things you have to ask yourself are "What are your actual expectations?", and "How well do you understand what your actually doing for each step?".
    Your expectations will determine how long you'll follow through with the plan. If you expect to make $10,000 in two weeks, and after 3 weeks you still haven't made a sale then you'll probably give up and call it a scam, (That's usually caused by salespages making unrealistic promises). Even more importantly is how well you understand what needs to be done for each step. Even if it is possible to make $10,000 in two weeks, it isn't likely to happen unless you do everything exactly right.
    Your expectation shouldn't be to make $10,000 in two weeks. Instead, your goal should be to learn exactly how to do each step necessary for a successful marketing campaign.

    So, if you've been searching google, forums, blogs, ebooks, etc. for the answer to "How to make money online?", or even worse looking for "How to Get Rich Quick?", then you're asking the wrong questions. You've probably already found that answer over and over again, but keep ignoring it because that 3 step or 5 step formula I outlined above isn't complete enough for you to understand how to make it work.

    Instead you should be asking questions about how to do each of those steps; "How do I find a good product to sell?", "How do I find the best niche to market in?", "How do I set up a website that effectively promotes a product?" "How do I write articles that will lead a prospect to buy?", "How do I entice visitors to submit their emails?", "How do I get visitors to my website that are looking to buy?"
    "How do I make money online?" is the wrong question. You just have to learn to ask the right questions. Finding answers to all those more specific questions are how you'll learn to make money online.

    Affiliate Marketing is a real business, and the education s all around you, but affiliate marketing won't make you rich over night, so if you're scared of working, then you should quit now.


    /rant
    Hoping not to ruffle any feathers here but I will just say that as a newbie to IM I did find this post useful to read and don't think it was malicious in any way. Asking the "how's" forces people to do the legwork and research needed to realistically reach those goals. So I am going to say thank you for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    Joe, you may be sick of all these "amazing offers" selling you "the ultimate secret to making money doing nothing" but, in the end, they are really aimed at people who don't know better. That's why these scammers are earning money, because they target people who actually believe they'll earn thousands of $$ by doing nothing at all!
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  • When I started out as a newbie, I also read those same rules in the IM niche from push button money ebooks, or some automatic money making tactic.

    But what I have noticed is that when it comes to making money online, is that without having your own product or service to sell and get your own hungry band of affiliates to promote and review your products for you, You just won't make the kind of money that the gurus seem to promise you when buying their products.

    When I started out, I wish I had a free system to test niche I wanted to enter, before investing money in webhosting, buying domain names and paying huge fees out of pocket before making the first sale to cover my start up costs.

    Are there any methods to do this? To test the viability of your product or service before paying for hosting, auto-responder services and pay per click ads to drive traffic to your website/landing page to fill up your list of prospects.

    I just feel if I knew what I know now about the "make money online" niche, I would have saved a lot of unnecessary start up costs to prepare for my product launches. and other affiliate campaigns.

    My mentors always showed me how to make money without spending any money upfront. I was able to apply that no money down strategy in real estate, television production, and now finally in the internet marketing niche.

    The thing is, would you be able to duplicate these strategies too in the IM niche with all those same old ebooks teaching how to make money fast online in 2015?

    Kind regards
    Sheldon Arendse
    Internet Trillionaire
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  • Profile picture of the author SouthSpawn
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    I think it's all about how people have the "off" and "on" motivation switches.
    So people jump on the bandwagon and "think" inside their heads that this is going to be easy. I have read tons of WSO's. Yes, a lot of them are they same. But I strongly find the information valuable. Simply because even if the information is similar as other WSO's I purchased. There is often some missing "clues" that I always discover.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Originally Posted by Joe Lumbergh View Post

    I’m sick of all those promising BS systems:Virtually every 'Make Money Online' course, website, ebook, blog, etc. will explain the goal of internet marketing is to have a system that will make you money by not doing anything, on autopilot.
    All these “products” and courses that I bought, thought me the exact same, basic steps so I’m putting them here for free. Those systems all won’t make you rich, but dedication might. Common steps:
    • find a product or offer you would like to promote.
    • create articles and other content promoting that product or offer.
    • get traffic to those articles/websites/whatever.
    Laid out like that it really looks simple doesn't it? You can even do it with or without your own website. Just 3 simple steps to make money online that will be in all those shitty guides! A lot of courses talk about the “Rule of 7” Basically what they teach is you should follow this formula:
    • find a product to sell.
    • set up a website targeted for people who want to buy that product.
    • entice visitors to submit email address for newsletter.
    • use an email autoresponder to send series of newsletters promoting the paid product.
    • set up a traffic campaign to get visitors to your website who want to buy that product.
    Those 5 basic steps give you a powerful (yet still simple) formula to make money online. But there is still a lot to research for every of those step, it won’t happen over night, like a lot of systems claim. Execute those steps very well, not in a haste, and only then you will see results.

    At the basic level, it really is that simple. That's why online marketing appeals so much to the 'Get Rich Quick' seeker. The problem is that 'simple' does not necessarily mean 'easy'. Where it gets more complicated is in making sure each of those steps are done effectively. This is where the 'Get Rich Quick' seekers jump off the bandwagon and start yelling SCAM. As I said above, 'simple' isn't the same thing as 'easy'. While the 'Get Rich Quick' books do overhype how easy it is to get results, it's still a fact that this is a proven system.

    If you really want to learn how to make money online, you need to ignore the hype. There is no way that anyone can guarantee that you can make XX amount of money in XX amount of time. There are too many variables that have to be taken into consideration. Everything from how good you are at niche research all the way through how good you are at understanding the material and following instructions.

    The most important things you have to ask yourself are "What are your actual expectations?", and "How well do you understand what your actually doing for each step?".
    Your expectations will determine how long you'll follow through with the plan. If you expect to make $10,000 in two weeks, and after 3 weeks you still haven't made a sale then you'll probably give up and call it a scam, (That's usually caused by salespages making unrealistic promises). Even more importantly is how well you understand what needs to be done for each step. Even if it is possible to make $10,000 in two weeks, it isn't likely to happen unless you do everything exactly right.
    Your expectation shouldn't be to make $10,000 in two weeks. Instead, your goal should be to learn exactly how to do each step necessary for a successful marketing campaign.

    So, if you've been searching google, forums, blogs, ebooks, etc. for the answer to "How to make money online?", or even worse looking for "How to Get Rich Quick?", then you're asking the wrong questions. You've probably already found that answer over and over again, but keep ignoring it because that 3 step or 5 step formula I outlined above isn't complete enough for you to understand how to make it work.

    Instead you should be asking questions about how to do each of those steps; "How do I find a good product to sell?", "How do I find the best niche to market in?", "How do I set up a website that effectively promotes a product?" "How do I write articles that will lead a prospect to buy?", "How do I entice visitors to submit their emails?", "How do I get visitors to my website that are looking to buy?"
    "How do I make money online?" is the wrong question. You just have to learn to ask the right questions. Finding answers to all those more specific questions are how you'll learn to make money online.

    Affiliate Marketing is a real business, and the education s all around you, but affiliate marketing won't make you rich over night, so if you're scared of working, then you should quit now.


    /rant
    There's an old saying... "If you're not part of the solution you're just part of the problem":. Or how about... "If you complain without offering a solution you're just whining".

    Now don't get me wrong. I think your post is well intentioned. But as stated - it's largely useless. I have been reading posts just like yours on this forum since 2000. Nothing has changed. Why do you think that is?

    For one thing, if you truly ARE tired of everything you mentioned in your post, why not bring about change? Be that seller you long to see. Put out the products you think will truly help people. And if you do, be prepared to be sorely disappointed.

    I have been doing this since 2002 and the reason we see this over and over again is NOT because those IMers are scammers (well - SOME are, but that's another discussion). Rather the general public who THINK they want to make money mostly think there's little to no work involved and are lazy/unmotivated/lack the drive to make the changes in their own life needed to actually make this a business that profits.

    Don't misunderstand me here. I am NOT putting all the blame on the general public. Surely most start in the IM world with good intentions. But this IS hard to do. MOST people get discouraged easily and in their discouragement tend to read these over-hyped sales pages and buy in to one money making scheme after another. It's a vicious cycle.

    But putting all the blame on the product creators is being disingenuous at best. MOST product creators (that I know) truly think their product will help some people. But it will only help those who want to be helped.

    Believe me - I don't say all this lightly. I used to be one who bought everything, tried very little consistently and spun my wheels in utter frustration for several years before I made money on a consistent basis. That's called the "Shiny Object Syndrome" and I was totally a victim of that . In fact, in my early years I was scammed out of $17,000 total. Talk about wanting to throw in the towel!

    But I didn't.

    It wasn't until my mindset changed that things started to happen for me, which happened when I changed the people around me in this business. You want to create quality products and sell them? Hang around with those who do. Hanging around on these forums complaining about low quality products is a waste of your time - time that could be spent handling those "How's" you mentioned in your post. Why do you think my stats are "Member since 2002" (really 2000) but less than 1700 posts.

    There's plenty of blame to go around in this business. The question is how much you really want success for yourself. The world is full of disappointments. If I've learned anything in my years is that if you focus on disappointment, you will be constantly disappointed. (and when I say "you" I am speaking in general terms)

    Ok, back to work for me
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