Building a niche list

maverick80 · 07-22-2009, 09:32 PM

I'm in the process of selecting some niches to start building some lists in - via PPC. I'm just going to be promoting CB products to start with in the emails mixed in with some content etc. No rocket science there.

Here is where I'm scratching my head. Many of the 'obvious' keywords have a pretty high CPC, and when I work the numbers out - my conversions would have to be extremely high just to break even.

Lets take golf for example. It'll probably cost you .70+ per click for just about any keyword with the word golf in it. You're not gonna do so hot if your trying to push a $37+ CB product.

So my question to those who are successful affiliate markets who are building lists....

Are you thinking outside the box when it comes to keywords, and trying to align your offers with a demographic? That is bidding on keywords that are being typed in by people who would most likely play golf.

or

Are you some how getting your opt-in conversions to 40%?

Thanks!
Mike

ryancameron · 07-23-2009, 01:10 AM

Hi Mike,
You'll find that 'long-tail keywords' are one of the secrets to getting cheap ppc keywords. Check out this article about keywords:

Long Tail Versus Short Tail Keywords

Hope that helps,
Ryan

Mr McDonald · 07-23-2009, 04:21 AM

look for sub niches. The "Super" Niches will have plenty of sub niches to profit from.

JAIDEEP2959 · 07-23-2009, 08:41 AM

Besides PPC you can try Yahoo answers and article marketing also.

Opt in conversion of 40% is definitely good.

If possible advertise in Google content network and Yahoo content network also.

Good luck.

liza31n · 07-23-2009, 08:53 AM

Keywords are important in targetting your customers,get traffics and sales.On the other hand,aside ppc you can also try other cheap advertising of not spending too much with your promotion.

maverick80 · 07-23-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liza31n

Keywords are important in targetting your customers,get traffics and sales.On the other hand,aside ppc you can also try other cheap advertising of not spending too much with your promotion.

you fail....

maverick80 · 07-24-2009, 06:53 AM

Anyone else have any tips when using PPC to build a niche list?

Are you marketing laterally to get cheaper keywords?

abelacts · 07-24-2009, 07:23 AM

I am not sure about others but I don't use PPC to build my list now. I used to use PPC to build list up to thousands but that was a few years back. PPC seems to be not feasible for me now with its high CPC. I focus more on SEO now. Forum marketing is also effective. If you are in IM, this is the very forum you must use!

Sapphire69 · 07-24-2009, 08:06 AM

I remember something John Reese once said:

"Sell what other people are already selling".

Who is on your list, how did they get there, what do you want to sell, is it what they want to buy?

Sophia

07-22-2009, 09:32 PM	#1
maverick80 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 186 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Building a niche list - looking for tips I'm in the process of selecting some niches to start building some lists in - via PPC. I'm just going to be promoting CB products to start with in the emails mixed in with some content etc. No rocket science there. Here is where I'm scratching my head. Many of the 'obvious' keywords have a pretty high CPC, and when I work the numbers out - my conversions would have to be extremely high just to break even. Lets take golf for example. It'll probably cost you .70+ per click for just about any keyword with the word golf in it. You're not gonna do so hot if your trying to push a $37+ CB product. So my question to those who are successful affiliate markets who are building lists.... Are you thinking outside the box when it comes to keywords, and trying to align your offers with a demographic? That is bidding on keywords that are being typed in by people who would most likely play golf. or Are you some how getting your opt-in conversions to 40%? Thanks! Mike

07-23-2009, 01:10 AM	#2
ryancameron Ryan Cameron Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Social Networking	Re: Building a niche list - looking for tips Hi Mike, You'll find that 'long-tail keywords' are one of the secrets to getting cheap ppc keywords. Check out this article about keywords: Long Tail Versus Short Tail Keywords Hope that helps, Ryan
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07-23-2009, 04:21 AM	#3
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07-23-2009, 08:53 AM	#5
liza31n Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Building a niche list - looking for tips Keywords are important in targetting your customers,get traffics and sales.On the other hand,aside ppc you can also try other cheap advertising of not spending too much with your promotion.

07-24-2009, 06:53 AM	#7
maverick80 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 186 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Building a niche list - looking for tips Anyone else have any tips when using PPC to build a niche list? Are you marketing laterally to get cheaper keywords?

07-24-2009, 07:23 AM	#8
abelacts Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 563 Thanks: 15 Thanked 42 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Building a niche list - looking for tips I am not sure about others but I don't use PPC to build my list now. I used to use PPC to build list up to thousands but that was a few years back. PPC seems to be not feasible for me now with its high CPC. I focus more on SEO now. Forum marketing is also effective. If you are in IM, this is the very forum you must use!
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07-24-2009, 08:06 AM	#9
Sapphire69 Sapphire Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 25 Blog Entries: 42 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Building a niche list - looking for tips I remember something John Reese once said: "Sell what other people are already selling". Who is on your list, how did they get there, what do you want to sell, is it what they want to buy? Sophia
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