My Story! Need personalized Help please!

by Jugnu1
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Hi Warriors,

I am going to share my journey on the internet and need personalized help from you please.

- I'm 24 right now and turned to internet for making money around 4 years ago

- Having no idea how it all works, I just joined Freelancer.com to get data entry work as I was having no specialized skills

- Got no data entry work but somehow got a rewriting project

- I'm not a native English speaker but after getting the rewriting project and after seeing some money coming in I turned to writing

- Did freelancing for about 1-2 years but it was taking me too much time to write and then correct mistakes, communicating, applying for the projects everything so I realized writing is not something I can depend on in long term and to earn good money. I was making money but nothing great!

- During this time, I was searching and reading many different methods to make money and thought everyone saying start a blog blah blah

- So I started a blog in 2012. Let me admit my mistakes, if today I think about that blog there were many things I've not done properly before going to start it. I had done no keyword research and the idea was really really broad and only thing that was driving me was like there is only 1 website already doing the similar thing. I was wrong though. And my competitors were really large companies and been on business for years. 1st Failure! Did not make even a single $.

- Started a second blog in 2013. The idea was to make money with Amazon affiliate. It was better than the first one. I was aware of how I am going to make money and it was a niche blog, not a micro niche. OK let's open it(there is no reason to hide), it was a blog related to kids electric toy cars and I was writing reviews. But again here, now I know reviews work best when they are targeting product related keywords. You know Product Name + Review, but I was targeting generic keywords. Got 2-3 sales only when it was around Christmas. Ended. 2nd Failure! Made less than $10

- In 2013, I came across the idea of dropshipping and eCommerce and making money with eBay, Amazon etc Now this is still the thing I am most interested in and feel great about doing this. But being in a country where there is no PayPal yet and not allowed to sell on Amazon, eBay(because no PayPal) and most other platforms I had a real hard time searching alternatives and to somehow make it work. People would not believe that I put countless hours into it. Finally got a merchant account with CCNOW and opened a Etsy shop(sending invoices manually with email upon order conformation). I was having no money to invest or buy stock so I was relying on dropshipping so that was altogether another journey. Almost no local supplier was aware of dropshipping (for single items though they were more than willing for bulk). Finally found one and started selling on Etsy. Sold for 2-3 months with some Good profit margin. But woke up one day to discover that they have suspended my shop. Let not go in the reasons, they closed and they only option I found to sell physical stuff died. All countless hours of reading, finding alternatives, months of efforts wasted. Made several 100s of $$$ I would count this as Failure!

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As I was convinced with selling physical items so I decided to go the wholesale route and purchased Alibaba Gold supplier membership. It was a huge money for me to spend. I was having an arrangement with a local manufacturer to make it work. Bought it in Feb 2014. Again let me admit, it was lot of hassle. I was getting leads and getting trail orders, but no one was returning to buy in bulk. It was getting harder and harder to convince my Manufacturer to make custom samples for me when I was bringing no wholesale orders for them. After first 6 months of 1 year membership, I almost quit and let my paid membership expire without any gains. Another Failure!

- During the above period, I tried clickbank and peerfly too with 7search. 1 sale with clickbank (which I would call just random because it was after several 100s of clicks) and some $$ with Peerfly game offers but it was not in profit. Probably another Failure!

So After almost 4 years, I'm earning $0/day right now. But these 4 years include my freelancing career as well. $0/day of income with my own business, so just rule out the freelancing as I am no longer doing it.

I decided to start again in the start of 2015 with basics. Now I've a website with 40+ good written articles. Yes, this time I done proper keyword research and took into consideration competition, CPC (in case if I've to rely on Adsense earning), avg monthly searches etc. Around 6 months old but started posting regular content from 15 March 2015, and now it has 40+ good helpful articles and is getting 5-8 visitors from Google(without any link building). Also have published two reviews of hot selling clickbank products but no sales yet. I can see my site residing for tens of keywords with decent monthly searches at positions like 40,50,70 and for some others it's beyond 200 in Google SERP.

Really a Long Long post but I'm writing this out of desperation. Now what help I want from you, the long story above was required to make you aware of my whole journey:

- I've always been very excited about the idea of making money with Internet because of all the associated benefits you all know. But from past few weeks or perhaps months the feeling like: I wasted countless hours and after 4 years I am at $0/day is overcoming me and making me feel I've wasted 4 years. I was studying when I started and this feeling also arousing that it affected my studies too. Do I really wasted 4 years? Is it only me or is it the path most of the people follow with no money to invest or go with some mentor? Is people following this path can ever succeed? Should I quit this whole MMO stuff and look for doing something else without wasting anymore time?

- Now the biggest motivation for me to continue with the idea of MMO is this: I'm from a country where minimum legal wages are $150/month and most of the people even work at less than that. Unemployment is booming. I am well qualified, graduated as Electrical Engineer in Oct 2013, worked as an Intern Engineer for 1 year (from Feb-2014-Feb-2015) and now again looking for a job. If I found a very Good job, it would max pay me $450-$500/month. This kind of job is really a Dream Job for Millions here in my place and yes it's very hard to find such a job. With my qualification and professional experience, the average job I can find is around $250-$300. And yes living is cheap here and one (family too) can survive with such income here but of course forget about savings or getting rich etc. Now this is the biggest motivation for me, I've put many years into this, I'm ahead of many people, I've somehow tried some methods, I see people earning daily online more than the amount I will be getting monthly from a full time job locally. Perhaps you can see the Motivation!

- With my experience so far and doing analysis, I can say generating free traffic (can't afford to buy) is what is the biggest hurdle for me. Looking at my experience or exposure online, what should I do? I've a website with 40+ articles getting around 10 visitors daily but no income. I'm not aiming anything crazy anymore. I want to reach $100/month by the end of May or even by the end of June. I can do it with services/Freelancing but no I'm not interested in that. I can afford to wait a few months to build something for long term.

BTW during my whole journey I was not doing it full time. Earlier I was studying and then working offline for an year. And let me admit this, most of the time I spent online during these 4 years is in searching, trying one thing than the other, or perhaps reading to figure out things, yes learned a lot, too.

Now I am completely free, no studies no job. Willing to put full time online for at least 2 next months to reach $100/month (no freelancing). What would you suggest, no generic answer keep in view my experience please? Or I've given this enough time and I should quit without wasting any more time? Is there any business model where traffic is already there? Like something legit on Youtube without any fear of being reported and getting everything down?

I'm writing all this to bring it out and perhaps out of feeling I am having from past couple of months that I wasted 4 years and I should quit! Even if no one replies to this, It may still help me feel better
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  • Profile picture of the author allegandro
    Spend 5$ on Fiverr, and you get a perfect re-written story
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    • Profile picture of the author Jugnu1
      Originally Posted by allegandro View Post

      Spend 5$ on Fiverr, and you get a perfect re-written story
      What would make this a perfect rewritten story? A couple of more failures or a huge success
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  • Profile picture of the author eKing
    Originally Posted by Jugnu1 View Post

    trying one thing than the other, or perhaps reading to figure out things,
    This way my downfall as well, I jumped around form one thing to the other far too much.

    Perseverance is key.

    Pick a method that you had the most success with and attempt to replicate it, and focus solely on that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jugnu1
      Originally Posted by eKing View Post

      This way my downfall as well, I jumped around form one thing to the other far too much.

      Perseverance is key.

      Pick a method that you had the most success with and attempt to replicate it, and focus solely on that.
      Yes, you are absolutely right! But I perhaps yet to find that something to which I can stick and solely focus on.
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      • Profile picture of the author Eagle07
        Originally Posted by Jugnu1 View Post

        Yes, you are absolutely right! But I perhaps yet to find that something to which I can stick and solely focus on.
        I think it is normal for most people to go through a lot of failures before experiencing success. I myself have been struggling to make money online for a couple of years before because I do not have much time to put into it before and I burnt a lot of money in paid advertising promoting affiliate offers cost per action and cost per sale. I realized that getting a lot of traffic to affiliate offers will not guarantee profits. This is the reason why I went back to all my strategies and look for the winning combinations and decided to give more attention and work more on it. That goes back to your point, we have to stick on what worked for us and focus on it solely until successful.

        Unfortunately, I got 4 areas that is working for me now.

        1. Affiliate marketing with pay per sale
        2. CPA offers
        3. information product creation and marketing
        4. adsense...

        ...well I read your story and I can relate because I've had a lot failures but these failures became and continue to be a challenge for myself to even move further and do things in a better way. So lighten up.. That is life. What is important is how we turn our failures in huge success and hit our milestones along the way. Let's keep going!

        There are lot of money to be made. I suggest you stick with Clickbank hot selling products. Use free promotions and free sites like blogger.com so you won't be spending on domain and hosting. Optimize them for the search engines and let the traffic come naturally. Search engine traffic are HIGHLY TARGETED! You can have conversions to as high as 30% conversion rate compared to cold traffic that gives only 0.5% to 2% conversion rate. I have been using the same in my affiliate promotions and they are still working up to now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Fantastic post.

    Jugnu, you appear to have all the requisite skills to be successful: diligent, intelligent, literate, possessed of an entrepreneurial mind. You just lack a little of the right kind of knowledge. I'm going to suggest some areas for you to research. These won't comprise everything you need to know, but they'll get you started in the right direction.

    Learn:

    1. Social Marketing
    2. Video Marketing
    3. Viral Marketing
    4. Re-Marketing

    The general system I'd suggest to you is this:

    Traffic > Articles > (A) Opt-In, (B) Affiliate Offers

    If you rely on Google to pay your bills, you'll be waiting a long time, and given the nature of updates, you won't have a stable business. You need to stick with a simple setup and ensure that your traffic channels are diverse and optimized. That simple setup being:

    1. The right market.
    2. The right offers.
    3. The right website design.
    4. The right ad copy.
    5. The right freebie.
    6. The right content.

    As far as the right content goes: consider infusing your articles with viral potential. This will help you a great deal on the socials.

    Well, it's a big subject, but I hope I've at least given you some direction for further research. You seem like a chap who deserves to do well. I have no time for lazy people. They won't make it. You, on the other hand, are a worker. Thumbs up.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jugnu1
      Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

      Fantastic post.

      Jugnu, you appear to have all the requisite skills to be successful: diligent, intelligent, literate, possessed of an entrepreneurial mind. You just lack a little of the right kind of knowledge. I'm going to suggest some areas for you to research. These won't comprise everything you need to know, but they'll get you started in the right direction.

      Learn:

      1. Social Marketing
      2. Video Marketing
      3. Viral Marketing
      4. Re-Marketing

      The general system I'd suggest to you is this:

      Traffic > Articles > (A) Opt-In, (B) Affiliate Offers

      If you rely on Google to pay your bills, you'll be waiting a long time, and given the nature of updates, you won't have a stable business. You need to stick with a simple setup and ensure that your traffic channels are diverse and optimized. That simple setup being:

      1. The right market.
      2. The right offers.
      3. The right website design.
      4. The right ad copy.
      5. The right freebie.
      6. The right content.

      As far as the right content goes: consider infusing your articles with viral potential. This will help you a great deal on the socials.

      Well, it's a big subject, but I hope I've at least given you some direction for further research. You seem like a chap who deserves to do well. I have no time for lazy people. They won't make it. You, on the other hand, are a worker. Thumbs up.

      Tom
      Thank you for your reply! It's helpful!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jugnu1
      Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

      Fantastic post.

      Jugnu, you appear to have all the requisite skills to be successful: diligent, intelligent, literate, possessed of an entrepreneurial mind. You just lack a little of the right kind of knowledge. I'm going to suggest some areas for you to research. These won't comprise everything you need to know, but they'll get you started in the right direction.

      Learn:

      1. Social Marketing
      2. Video Marketing
      3. Viral Marketing
      4. Re-Marketing

      The general system I'd suggest to you is this:

      Traffic > Articles > (A) Opt-In, (B) Affiliate Offers

      If you rely on Google to pay your bills, you'll be waiting a long time, and given the nature of updates, you won't have a stable business. You need to stick with a simple setup and ensure that your traffic channels are diverse and optimized. That simple setup being:

      1. The right market.
      2. The right offers.
      3. The right website design.
      4. The right ad copy.
      5. The right freebie.
      6. The right content.

      As far as the right content goes: consider infusing your articles with viral potential. This will help you a great deal on the socials.

      Well, it's a big subject, but I hope I've at least given you some direction for further research. You seem like a chap who deserves to do well. I have no time for lazy people. They won't make it. You, on the other hand, are a worker. Thumbs up.

      Tom
      About video marketing, I can create a video for each of my articles using Power Point. All my articles are informative so I can take points and create videos and add background music. I will then upload them to Youtube, dailymotion etc. Do you think this is something worth doing? Though I will try making the videos as nice as possible but still without voice over, do you think they are worth doing? Do people really trust any such videos, created with pictures and text etc, without real recording or voice overs?


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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
        Originally Posted by Jugnu1 View Post

        Hi Tom!

        About video marketing, I can create a video for each of my articles using Power Point. All my articles are informative so I can take points and create videos and add background music. I will then upload them to Youtube, dailymotion etc. Do you think this is something worth doing? Though I will try making the videos as nice as possible but still without voice over, do you think they are worth doing? Do people really trust any such videos, created with pictures and text etc, without real recording or voice overs?

        Great questions.

        About video marketing, I can create a video for each of my articles using Power Point. All my articles are informative so I can take points and create videos and add background music. I will then upload them to Youtube, dailymotion etc. Do you think this is something worth doing?

        I do. Turning old articles into videos (fresh content) has been a good system for some time. It's popularity arrived around the time of EZA losing most of it's Google juice. Concentrate less on blasting multiple video networks, though, and more on video content and optimizing for the one network (Youtube). Spice up your videos with animation, video elements, music, and voice-overs (though V-O are not essential). Rank your videos in YT SERPS and Google, Yahoo, and Bing.

        Though I will try making the videos as nice as possible but still without voice over, do you think they are worth doing? Do people really trust any such videos, created with pictures and text etc, without real recording or voice overs?

        The most effective format is live action, of course. Second to that, lively videos with a voice-over. The least effective are the type you're talking about: slides and music. But you can combat that with the following:

        - Identify a problem
        - Give part of a solution
        - High-End production values
        - Targeted Audience
        - Plenty of Traffic
        - Re-Marketing

        This is a big subject. Essentially, what you want to do is concentrate on 2 key areas:

        - Content Upgrades
        - Re-Marketing

        In other words, you laser-target an audience and provide part of a solution to their problem. You then upgrade them to your squeeze page, where they can receive more of a solution, and you then re-market with complete solutions and related solutions.

        No one would believe me if I told you the real power of this system. I've given you the basic structure, but I'd be a month explaining all of the ins-and-outs. I think you have plenty to go on, though.

        Tom
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  • First and foremost your story isn't uncommon. Any one that has become successful has had way more failures. But they're not failures, they're just set backs and lessons. It sounds like you learned something new every time you hit a roadblock so that's good. That's just preparing you for success. You only fail if you give up.

    Like most of us you have the shiny new thing syndrome where you keep bouncing around. I can tell you from experience focusing on a blog that provides quality content and is dedicated to helping people can eventually help you earn the money you want. But it's not a quick fix. And other than freelancing which I know you want to avoid, I don't know what else can provide you the income you want so quickly.

    Everything takes time and patience. Freelancing is where you had success. Maybe you should try some arbitrage where you get clients but you outsource it to someone else to do the work so it's less time consuming. Reading your story it seems like freelancing was working for you. It's just a matter of doing it smarter now rather than harder.

    But I wouldn't give up on your blog in time it can and will make you money if you're consistent and patient with it. However you can still make money with freelancing in the mean time. But do it with arbitrage as many other people here are doing. I hope it helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jugnu1
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingSmarts View Post

      First and foremost your story isn't uncommon. Any one that has become successful has had way more failures. But they're not failures, they're just set backs and lessons. It sounds like you learned something new every time you hit a roadblock so that's good. That's just preparing you for success. You only fail if you give up.

      Like most of us you have the shiny new thing syndrome where you keep bouncing around. I can tell you from experience focusing on a blog that provides quality content and is dedicated to helping people can eventually help you earn the money you want. But it's not a quick fix. And other than freelancing which I know you want to avoid, I don't know what else can provide you the income you want so quickly.

      Everything takes time and patience. Freelancing is where you had success. Maybe you should try some arbitrage where you get clients but you outsource it to someone else to do the work so it's less time consuming. Reading your story it seems like freelancing was working for you. It's just a matter of doing it smarter now rather than harder.

      But I wouldn't give up on your blog in time it can and will make you money if you're consistent and patient with it. However you can still make money with freelancing in the mean time. But do it with arbitrage as many other people here are doing. I hope it helps.
      Good to know my story isn't uncommon (took me a while to understand you mean it's common). But my main concern is if it's common among those who fail?

      BTW, yes the first thing I tried to expand on freelancing was arbitrage. But it in fact resulted in losing clients. I'm not sure about other stuff, but for writing it was nothing less than nightmare. People come up with lame excuses like I'm in hospital from last night, connection down, or other countless family emergencies and such childish excuses make you feel like a primary school teacher And the result is, missed deadlines, poor quality content when you rush to get it completed from someone else at the last moments, and ultimately unhappy clients and negative feedback.

      Also I was trying to get projects from freelance sites and then outsource too via those platforms. This usually leaves no profit margin for you. I think other than overcoming the above problems, another challenge is to find clients outside the freelance platforms which I was unable to do at that time.
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      • Originally Posted by Jugnu1 View Post

        Good to know my story isn't uncommon (took me a while to understand you mean it's common). But my main concern is if it's common among those who fail?

        BTW, yes the first thing I tried to expand on freelancing was arbitrage. But it in fact resulted in losing clients. I'm not sure about other stuff, but for writing it was nothing less than nightmare. People come up with lame excuses like I'm in hospital from last night, connection down, or other countless family emergencies and such childish excuses make you feel like a primary school teacher And the result is, missed deadlines, poor quality content when you rush to get it completed from someone else at the last moments, and ultimately unhappy clients and negative feedback.

        Also I was trying to get projects from freelance sites and then outsource too via those platforms. This usually leaves no profit margin for you. I think other than overcoming the above problems, another challenge is to find clients outside the freelance platforms which I was unable to do at that time.
        Again every successful person I know has run into setbacks. But the only reason they became successful is they kept fighting through the failures. They also didn't limit themselves to a time frame. They had the mindset, that i'm going to make this work one way or another. They may deviate on the course they took to reach success but ultimately they eventually do because they don't give up.

        In terms of the freelance arbitrage it's good that you tried it. Sounds like you just need to find clients outside the freelance sites. Have you tried craigslist? Or letting people in your immediate circle of friends or family know the services you offer? You may also want to partner with someone. One of the ways I got web design clients was letting my financial advisor know what I was doing. He knew a lot of businesses and introduced me to them. And I was able to make several thousand dollars in a couple months creating wordpress websites for them. So you might want to think of some different angles. If you were offering writing services try contacting established web design companies that may lack that service and let them know you can help them make more money which is by offering your writing services.

        So there are some angles to think of. Again your freelance success can be leveraged. It's just a matter of working it in a smarter way. I don't like leaving money on the table. If I find something that works, I like to keep it going. I just try to think of different ways to improve it.

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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          I know that I have learned far more from my Failures than my Successes.

          So do not be too desperate.

          In some manner or another ,we have all been in your shoes

          Personally, I think the videos if done right and with a certain amount of quality is a good avenue for you to pursue

          Just a matter of going for it


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  • Profile picture of the author ncmedia
    You just took 4 years of amazing real world experience schooling and figured out tons of stuff that doesn't work and how not to repeat mistakes. Look at it as great knowledge under your belt, and with each new attempt comes new found knowledge from your last. I did 50+ .com's and have been in the industry for 20 years in different areas, it took me xx years to find my fit and hitting success/losing it all a few times before it was ripe and I was responsible enough to sustain it.

    Do more, faster, fail faster, and you actually did have some success up there but it's all in how you view it (clickbank/other sales, small but still proven that you were onto something, you understand the eco-system, at that point you are dangerous you shouldn't have walked away so quick from it).
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  • Profile picture of the author camohit
    You have earned experienced in these four years, that is called LIFE. Anyways, back to your issue...First you yourself accepted that you did IM part Time. Plus when you are on Internet time runs like anything. You hav to control yourself in order to be productive and stay focussed on your target. Else if you browse the Net you will feel that you are working but actually you are just passing the time...its harsh but its true.

    There are few basics of marketing which apply to IM too. You should have a product to sell, not every visitor purchases the product on first visit so you shud hav a followup system in place, you will earn more when your one time customer becomes your regular customer as they already trust you and are comfortable doing business with you so you shud hav a product which you can sell to the same person month on month. Now, a person would only purchase that product every month if either that product is adding value to him/her OR he/she is also earning money. For that matter I prefer Network Marketing as everybody earns and there is a culture of co-operation and dedicated work to see one's team becoming rich. Because in Network Marketing one can only succeed when their team is succeeding. Moreover you create a passive income which means Financial Freedom. However, Network Marketing is for long term purpose, say you will start seeing nice income flowing in 12-18 months. though you will be earning meanwhile too. Additional benefit of Network/affiliate marketing is you do not have to worry about managing payments, or delivering products etc. You may not even need your website, hosting or domain. It also does not require much money. And since you hav good experience in writing you can utilise this skill too very effectively.

    Select one thing and stick to it until you make it success, flipping from one business to another never does good to anybody. Do not quit and you will surely kiss success as you already have fighting spirit in you (considering your 4 year experience)

    Wish you luck!
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    im about to start my IM journey and you just made me frightened
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    • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
      Originally Posted by MohTawfeek View Post

      im about to start my IM journey and you just made me frightened
      Just be careful who you listen to.

      There are duplicatable systems. All you have to do is follow instructions. Sadly, that is where most fail.
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    • Originally Posted by MohTawfeek View Post

      im about to start my IM journey and you just made me frightened
      Don't be afraid. Just accept that you will make mistakes and it will make you better and stronger. Fear is the number 1 reason people are living lives they don't want. You just have to push through it. Every successful person has fear. The only difference between them and 99% of the population is they ignore it and press forward. And if they fail, they keep getting back up. So keep that in mind.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by MohTawfeek View Post

      im about to start my IM journey and you just made me frightened
      Good. It's helpful to have a wake-up call. As Brent suggests, there are many proven systems. The trick, for a beginner, is to duplicate those systems. As you get more experienced, you then improve upon them.

      Now that you've had a jolt of fear - quite a healthy thing to remind you of where not to go wrong - I suggest you relax.

      Here's what you do:

      1. Find a simple, working model.
      2. Ensure it's obviously one you can pull off.
      3. Invest the absolute minimum.
      4. Don't quite your day job.
      5. Work in your free time.
      6. Try to promote PPL offers (as mentioned earlier, they're easier for newbies to convert).
      7. Once you have success, scale it up (in other words, do more of what you did to get that success).
      8. When you're running a decent profit and feel you can diversify, do so.
      9. Run your current operation yourself or outsource.
      10. Rinse and repeat the same model but with a brand new setup.

      That will get you started in the right direction.

      So you can now - as my daughter would say - "chill."

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