Has anyone ever tried this with Amazon?

Chandrapaul

9 years ago

good idea...try and share your experience

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NeedBucksNow

9 years ago

Most books are going to have the keyword in their title already? You could try it I guess but might have better luck with Kindle

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agmccall

9 years ago

And you don't think this is being done by the thousands?

Read any course on Kindle publishing and you will find this to be in the first chapters of every course ever made on the subject, that is for non fiction, fiction is a different story.

al

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Loopholemarketers

9 years ago

Originally Posted by agmccall

And you don't think this is being done by the thousands?

Read any course on Kindle publishing and you will find this to be in the first chapters of every course ever made on the subject, that is for non fiction, fiction is a different story.

al

I don't see Amazon posts for a lot of keywords I search, when doing niche research.

For example, "How to make money with Clickbank", or even better "How to make money with Clickbank in 2015"

It would only take a few backlinks I'm assuming, if any.

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OnlineStoreHelp

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Loopholemarketers

Imagine having a seller account on Amazon and creating books named after long-tail keywords...

Your book's title, the keyword, would be used in the pages title tag, and since it's on Amazon.com, that alone could be enough to allow to dominate the SERPS for multiple keywords!

You could put up tons of books or whatever and harness a lot of on sight traffic as well, I'm assuming.

I'd be interested in hearing anyone's experience with that

If there isn't any I'll do a test myself!

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And when all those books get 1 or 2 star reviews????

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Robert999

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Loopholemarketers

Imagine having a seller account on Amazon and creating books named after long-tail keywords...

Your book's title, the keyword, would be used in the pages title tag, and since it's on Amazon.com, that alone could be enough to allow to dominate the SERPS for multiple keywords!

You could put up tons of books or whatever and harness a lot of on sight traffic as well, I'm assuming.

I'd be interested in hearing anyone's experience with that

If there isn't any I'll do a test myself!

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Just publishing lots of kindle books on amazon will not work. To be successful on Kindle you need to work in a different way. You only need a handful of good quality books to make good money. Keyword stuffing in title and descriptions will not work.

Publish high quality book after doing proper research
offer it for free for first 3 days
make starting price at $0.99
If the sale starts then increase the price gradually $1.99 and then $2.99.

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Loopholemarketers

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Robert999

Just publishing lots of kindle books on amazon will not work. To be successful on Kindle you need to work in a different way. You only need a handful of good quality books to make good money. Keyword stuffing in title and descriptions will not work.

Publish high quality book after doing proper research
offer it for free for first 3 days
make starting price at $0.99
If the sale starts then increase the price gradually $1.99 and then $2.99.

I'm not trying to succeed with Kindle, I'm trying to use Amazon.com like a web 2.0 site to dominate the SERPS and sell ebooks

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Janice Sperry

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Loopholemarketers

I'm not trying to succeed with Kindle, I'm trying to use Amazon.com like a web 2.0 site to dominate the SERPS and sell ebooks

Spamming Amazon to get spammy looking links on your website is not a good long-term SEO strategy. Even if it temporarily worked Amazon would eventually bring the hammer down on "authors" doing this and Google would eventually quit giving any credit for these bogus links.

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Loopholemarketers

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Janice Sperry

Spamming Amazon to get spammy looking links on your website is not a good long-term SEO strategy. Even if it temporarily worked Amazon would eventually bring the hammer down on "authors" doing this and Google would eventually quit giving any credit for these bogus links.

I think you guys are missing the actual point. Using the authority and trust of amazon to rank easily on Google.

Not get backlinks, or spam amazon with crappy books.

I would assume, you would assume, I would offer something of value?

Just like tons of books, some good and some crap have been uploaded to Amazon for some time now, as well as other ebook marketplaces.

This is a concept post, a pre-tested theory...

If you don't have any actual experience in this method, save your theoretic nays.

There are people here that may take your doubt as gospel and throw out a potentially game changing idea before trying it for themselves.

How about, I'll let you know how it turns out in a few weeks, after I've gathered some data, and gotten some results...

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maxweb

9 years ago

No exp in this but definitely gonna try. Thanks for sharing buddy, wish you all the best

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Steve B

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Loopholemarketers

Imagine having a seller account on Amazon and creating books named after long-tail keywords...

You would need to make sure that your book titles don't infringe on anyone's trade mark or service mark. Companies get very anxious when their registered names (company name, product name, service) are used by others to make a profit.

Steve

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Loopholemarketers

9 years ago

Originally Posted by maxweb

No exp in this but definitely gonna try. Thanks for sharing buddy, wish you all the best

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Steve B

You would need to make sure that your book titles don't infringe on anyone's trade mark or service mark. Companies get very anxious when their registered names (company name, product name, service) are used by others to make a profit.

Steve

Thank you Steve, I'll keep that in mind!

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Janice Sperry

9 years ago

Sorry if I misunderstood but in your OP you did say...

"...You could put up tons of books..."

That just did not sound like a serious author that "would offer something of value" as you say now.

I do have an opinion now that I understand your approach better but since you told me not to tell you my theory about your theory I won't.

I wish you success.

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Loopholemarketers

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Janice Sperry

Sorry if I misunderstood but in your OP you did say...

"...You could put up tons of books..."

That just did not sound like a serious author that "would offer something of value" as you say now.

I do have an opinion now that I understand your approach better but since you told me not to tell you my theory about your theory I won't.

I wish you success.

Didn't mean to offend. But doubt is a very crippling thing. There a lot of untrained minds here that often take doubt as gospel without even attempting it for themselves.

I just wanted to keep them in mind

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flyingdutch

9 years ago

Amazon is pretty aggressive in filtering out the people who are trying to game the system. Until not so long ago, and due to the (untrue) information that stuffing keywords in the coauthor field would help in ranking, people started publishing books with "coauthor: Weightloss " and other nonsense. Amazon quickly removed all those scammers. The same happened with the 2 page pamflets "authors" and those that participated in review circles and other shill tricks. My opinion, after having published 10 books: Play it by the rules. Trying to game the system (be it Amazon, Google , FB or whatever) will sooner or later backfire on you.

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Loopholemarketers

9 years ago

Originally Posted by flyingdutch

Amazon is pretty aggressive in filtering out the people who are trying to game the system. Until not so long ago, and due to the (untrue) information that stuffing keywords in the coauthor field would help in ranking, people started publishing books with "coauthor: Weightloss " and other nonsense. Amazon quickly removed all those scammers. The same happened with the 2 page pamflets "authors" and those that participated in review circles and other shill tricks. My opinion, after having published 10 books: Play it by the rules. Trying to game the system (be it Amazon, Google , FB or whatever) will sooner or later backfire on you.

I'm not talking about gaming Amazon or Google. I'm talking about creating ebooks with content related to their titles, which happen to be keywords like: How to make money online in 2015

I don't see anything wrong with that, but that's what the tests are for, figuring it all out.

The truth is, if you're business needs traffic from the internet, there is no sustainable model. At the end of the day, a search engine is just a website. And all websites come and go.

Get yours while you can, and get as much as you can, cause Google doesn't care if your kids eat or not.

At least that's how I see it.

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nmwf

9 years ago

Honestly, I don't see any problem with this strategy, as it's currently used in the software industry, content marketing strategy, app industry and ______ industry. Your only problem would be the consequence of reviews. I.E., if the book isn't satisfactory, you'll rank #1 for a product that has rows of negative reviews. That will ruin your reputation and your business.

Should you try it, you had better publish books with "best-seller" quality.

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Loopholemarketers

9 years ago

Originally Posted by nmwf

Honestly, I don't see any problem with this strategy, as it's currently used in the software industry, content marketing strategy, app industry and ______ industry. Your only problem would be the consequence of reviews. I.E., if the book isn't satisfactory, you'll rank #1 for a product that has rows of negative reviews. That will ruin your reputation and your business.

Should you try it, you had better publish books with "best-seller" quality.

Thank you, you make a good point.

I figured the content quality could be aimed towards newbies, then the content wouldn't have to be so deep....kinda like most of these WSOs

The downfall I foresee there is, guys like us buying the book expecting new or advanced info then being disappointed, because we forget 99% of the world doesn't even know the basics yet lol

Which is crazy, because I know a millionaire that wanted to pay me $15k to work for him because he thinks I'm a mad scientist when I talk basic SEO, while people on my list think $97 is a lot to pay to learn how to make a living online, because they've bought so many rehashed courses in the past

Perception...

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nmwf

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Loopholemarketers

Thank you, you make a good point.

I figured the content quality could be aimed towards newbies, then the content wouldn't have to be so deep....kinda like most of these WSOs

The downfall I foresee there is, guys like us buying the book expecting new or advanced info then being disappointed, because we forget 99% of the world doesn't even know the basics yet lol

Which is crazy, because I know a millionaire that wanted to pay me $15k to work for him because he thinks I'm a mad scientist when I talk basic SEO, while people on my list think $97 is a lot to pay to learn how to make a living online, because they've bought so many rehashed courses in the past

Perception...

So change your approach:

Append (For Newbies) to beginners books...
Append (For Experts) to higher-knowledge books...

--- or ---

Cater to each audience in a single book and satisfy both markets.

One thing that I can say about the "For Dummies" series is that they always provide information for everyone, including experts. Although that may impress their readers, I'm quite sure it was a marketing decision.

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