Backdoor Scammers

Bev Clement · 09-10-2008, 03:56 AM

It's time to educate yourself to protect you from some of the backdoor scammers that are around.

These sometimes come in as I've never made any money in IM, what do I do, and then they are able to build a list of thousands in 24 hours, and make 5 figures in their first week, with no knowledge.

But, there is a far more dangerous type of scammer around.

They look like they are playing by the book, and yet they are waiting for the right moment to jump on their prey.

They are the ones who come in and claim to be the best in the industry or their niche. Yet, if you check nobody has heard of them. They manage to persuade some people (normally newbies) to be their cheerleaders, but they are in the scammers back pocket.

If you so much as post about something they are doing, they go bananas, because they have a guilty conscience, even when you are not saying anything about them. They turn nasty when they realise that someone might have discovered something about them, and that is the time when something is discovered, because they make such a song and dance, that people wonder what they have to hide.

They pretend to be the nice person, and then suddenly the whole scam is blown open by them using a false name. So many backdoor scammer are given away when they use a false name here, and a real name elsewhere.

Beware of the self appointed gurus, because normally they are not. Beware of those in their backpocket who are cheerleaders, ask how they became part of their inner circle.

They are around, take care and protect yourself.

Sarah Harvey · 09-10-2008, 04:26 AM

Great post. It made me smile.

But let me tell you little secret..... I met a guy once in my home town. I used to work with bands before in South Africa, but this guy was the "big dog" in town that made xxx amount of money and had it made for himself. I worked with him several times and over the course of several years I always wondered what made him bull**** so much in the line of work and yet he made tons of money.

Then it hit me one day....

He was Good at promoting himself and instilled trust in the people he worked for.

But believe it or not, he rarely delivered on his promises and if things went wrong, he merely blamed something else. Never himself.

In this line of work you have to ask yourself.... how many people are self-appointed millionaires and gurus. Lots are. The status of guru means absolutely nothing to me. However, I am a self appointed celebrity among certain niches online. Still I simply started with a unique name, a persona and paved the way for myself. No one else did. But I had to start somewhere.

You will not get anywhere if you just stand in the corner and hope someone will notice you.

You need to promote yourself and get out there. Some people will come out of nowhere. Yes, a lot of people start that way believe it or not. If you don't trust the person then don't. Everyone to his own opinion. But for those people that have no reputation, how do you imagine they have to start?

rapidscc · 09-10-2008, 04:29 AM

Hi Bev,

Seems like you've been rounding up scammers for several post already :-)

Thanks for the warning..

By the way Im a newbie, could anybody just hand me over a list so I wouldnt have to do any scamming :-) nyah..Just kidding.

You may want to check my newly minted website though at : http://youloseweight.110mb.com

This was a result of a similar challenge by tommy in this forum..Though this site I will not flip and instead work on the Adsense angle. I also didnt posted that I was working on this one since I learned here already that action speaks louder than words...

Thanks again Bev. Thanks to you all!

BIG Mike · 09-10-2008, 04:43 AM

The most ironic part of it is that they are never smart enough to hide for long. They think they are, but sooner or later they always slip up. Are those people you want to do business with?

What really blows my mind is that, if these idiots were to put even half of the same effort into going legit, they would probably make a fortune. <shakes head>

milan · 09-10-2008, 05:10 AM

They are parrots. That itself is not a problem - the problem is that they feel the urge to change something in a system they copy and they spoil it... Newbies end up following their advice and conclude the whole IM "is a scam" and "doesn't work".

Following people who practice what they preach cannot be substituted with a parrot. Nobody is perfect. People who are successful are no exception. But there is no substitute for a real experience. I don't want to sound dramatical but, if you're not aware that somebody is just a parrot you'll probably have a frustrating experience because of some "details".

09-10-2008, 03:56 AM	#1
Bev Clement Writer War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 8,753 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 460 Thanked 995 Times in 371 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Backdoor Scammers It's time to educate yourself to protect you from some of the backdoor scammers that are around. These sometimes come in as I've never made any money in IM, what do I do, and then they are able to build a list of thousands in 24 hours, and make 5 figures in their first week, with no knowledge. But, there is a far more dangerous type of scammer around. They look like they are playing by the book, and yet they are waiting for the right moment to jump on their prey. They are the ones who come in and claim to be the best in the industry or their niche. Yet, if you check nobody has heard of them. They manage to persuade some people (normally newbies) to be their cheerleaders, but they are in the scammers back pocket. If you so much as post about something they are doing, they go bananas, because they have a guilty conscience, even when you are not saying anything about them. They turn nasty when they realise that someone might have discovered something about them, and that is the time when something is discovered, because they make such a song and dance, that people wonder what they have to hide. They pretend to be the nice person, and then suddenly the whole scam is blown open by them using a false name. So many backdoor scammer are given away when they use a false name here, and a real name elsewhere. Beware of the self appointed gurus, because normally they are not. Beware of those in their backpocket who are cheerleaders, ask how they became part of their inner circle. They are around, take care and protect yourself.
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09-10-2008, 04:26 AM	#2
Sarah Harvey Chaos-Incarnate Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 349 Thanks: 0 Thanked 36 Times in 30 Posts Contact Info	Re: Backdoor Scammers Great post. It made me smile. But let me tell you little secret..... I met a guy once in my home town. I used to work with bands before in South Africa, but this guy was the "big dog" in town that made xxx amount of money and had it made for himself. I worked with him several times and over the course of several years I always wondered what made him bull**** so much in the line of work and yet he made tons of money. Then it hit me one day.... He was Good at promoting himself and instilled trust in the people he worked for. But believe it or not, he rarely delivered on his promises and if things went wrong, he merely blamed something else. Never himself. In this line of work you have to ask yourself.... how many people are self-appointed millionaires and gurus. Lots are. The status of guru means absolutely nothing to me. However, I am a self appointed celebrity among certain niches online. Still I simply started with a unique name, a persona and paved the way for myself. No one else did. But I had to start somewhere. You will not get anywhere if you just stand in the corner and hope someone will notice you. You need to promote yourself and get out there. Some people will come out of nowhere. Yes, a lot of people start that way believe it or not. If you don't trust the person then don't. Everyone to his own opinion. But for those people that have no reputation, how do you imagine they have to start?
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09-10-2008, 04:29 AM	#3
rapidscc Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sunny Philippines Posts: 1,678 Blog Entries: 26 Thanks: 462 Thanked 213 Times in 164 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Backdoor Scammers Hi Bev, Seems like you've been rounding up scammers for several post already :-) Thanks for the warning.. By the way Im a newbie, could anybody just hand me over a list so I wouldnt have to do any scamming :-) nyah..Just kidding. You may want to check my newly minted website though at : http://youloseweight.110mb.com This was a result of a similar challenge by tommy in this forum..Though this site I will not flip and instead work on the Adsense angle. I also didnt posted that I was working on this one since I learned here already that action speaks louder than words... Thanks again Bev. Thanks to you all!
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09-10-2008, 04:43 AM	#4
BIG Mike Drunken Greek War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 9,981 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 2,195 Thanked 4,203 Times in 1,250 Posts	Re: Backdoor Scammers The most ironic part of it is that they are never smart enough to hide for long. They think they are, but sooner or later they always slip up. Are those people you want to do business with? What really blows my mind is that, if these idiots were to put even half of the same effort into going legit, they would probably make a fortune. <shakes head>
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09-10-2008, 05:10 AM	#5
milan An Old Hippie War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: All Over Europe Posts: 1,596 Thanks: 114 Thanked 129 Times in 81 Posts Contact Info	Re: Backdoor Scammers They are parrots. That itself is not a problem - the problem is that they feel the urge to change something in a system they copy and they spoil it... Newbies end up following their advice and conclude the whole IM "is a scam" and "doesn't work". Following people who practice what they preach cannot be substituted with a parrot. Nobody is perfect. People who are successful are no exception. But there is no substitute for a real experience. I don't want to sound dramatical but, if you're not aware that somebody is just a parrot you'll probably have a frustrating experience because of some "details".