XRumer Expect... need help! How to use spam tool to NOT spam?

[kkchoon]

Hi Warriors,

Just wonder if we can use XRumer to harvest high Quality backlinks and only post "a bit more useful" information on forum, not to spam like crazy??

Is this tool pure bl*ckhat or anyone has use it for the purpose of Good?

I found this software to be powerful, but want to make sure there is a way to use for whitehat sites....

Thanks in advance for the reply!

- Kok Choon

[GuerrillaIM]

pure blackhat. It will spam hundres of thousands of sites for you and I am told about 30% of those links will stick.

I havent tried it but again Im told the site linked to tends to rank for a brief period of time and then get de-indexed.

[kkchoon]

I still suspect XRumer is something like a gun, you can use it for hunting food, protect your family or to rob and kill someone ...

I am looking into the possibility to use a spam tool for good, I see this tool is so powerful, not even SENuke can compare.

I know comparing SENuke is not fair, because this great peace of software is pure white to grey... and it does help me generate tons of traffic!

Still hope somebody can help me here...

[GuerrillaIM]

I'm not sure what you are geting at. Xrumer is a spam tool. How could you post something useful to 120,000 forums? Each forum will have different topics. The aim of the game from what I understand is to make your post look natural and stay under the radar.

[kkchoon]

This is a debate between if creating a profile, joining a forum JUST FOR LINK is black or white...

I personally think is grey - because you don't really just put a link there, you may participate in the forum, raise a question or answer a question... you are contributing something.

However, your purpose for link makes it not that white...!

If XRumer can somehow create profile on high PR & related sites, and provide some content and later a link back, I would say this is what I am looking for, or if with other kinds of tools can achieve this purpose is good enough for me.

[abs007]

Im not sure if you have seen the new feauture on the senuke tool but its now capable of creating 500 high qality backlinks a little like angelas backlinks where by you will use the profile pages to add the urls to.

The software is awesome and I dont think you will need to even consider the blackhat tool.

Seo the whitehat way is the correct way and your results should last

thanks

[GuerrillaIM]

Spamming forums with automated captcha breaking software is blac khat.

[kkchoon]

So is SENuke, and any kind of backlinks building...

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

So is .... any kind of backlinks building...

Big difference in my opinion. So you are saying these two methods are same:

1. Manually joining a forum, readining a few posts and making a helpful ontopic post or reply with a signature link in it.

2. spamming thousands of sites witht the same message and link to your site.

1 = whitehat
2 = blackhat

Really can't believe this is even up for debate. I'm not saying its wrong to be a blackhat. I'm just saying using xrumer is about as blackhat as it gets.

[kkchoon]

That isn't a clear line between white and black.

What you are saying is - automation = black.

manual = white.

I can't agree with that. You join a forum for the purpose of joining, participating, that is not link building. Just like Warriorforum, I got natural link from signature, but that is not what people do for link building... it is just too slow.

I like automated link building tools, like SENuke new implemented KickApps profile nuke, that is really a killer! You can see the result very fast and it save you tons of work !

For pure white method, I think only authority blogging, or building link bait page is qualify for this...

Just my opinion, at least no has the industry standard answer to this debate...

What I am looking for is someone with XRumer experience, how they success in generating traffic and may be I can refine the black method into white...

Anyone with XRumer experience care to share? Appreciate if someone can point me for more resources...

[GuerrillaIM]

Thats not what I'm saying at all. This conversation is farcical so I'll leave it at that.

[stma]

Your not going to be happy until someone tells you that you can use xrumer as a white hat tool are you

Short answer: No you can't.

Long answer: You don't have enough control over things with xrumer - your going to be spamming. Your going to be reported. Whatever url you use it for to build links will be de-indexed eventually. It's just how it works - use it for what it was made for if your into that kind of thing, but don't try and turn it into something it's not you will just be wasting your time.

It was made to dump a lot of links at a site so it can rank until it doesn't anymore. That's it.

[kkchoon]

Anyone else had different opinion?

Like it or not XRumer is too powerful to ignore. I know many people use it to spam, but unless you have used or try it, I would like someone who experience with XRumer to share some ideas...

Anyone please?

[GuerrillaIM]

This is how Xrumer works.

Step 1) Use hrefer app to build a list of websites based on keyword input
Step 2) Select the correct list ID in xrumer
Step 3) Create new project and fill out account details (it automatically creates you an email address)
Step 4) Write a post. You can use spin operators like {} to try to make it unique but most people just put a message like "Hi I'm new here, hello everyone"
Step 5) Set you thread priority. By default it targets threads like "off topic" where moderation is less and promotional links are usually allowed
Step 6) Click send. It will now spam the spun post to your list, which in a day you can get a list of 500,000 on a good connection.

OK. So PLEASE explain to me your brilliant whitehat method that incorporates this mass spamming tool. I am all ears eagerly awaiting this.

[stma]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Anyone else had different opinion?

Like it or not XRumer is too powerful to ignore. I know many people use it to spam, but unless you have used or try it, I would like someone who experience with XRumer to share some ideas...

Anyone please?

My answer wasn't good enough for you Yes I own and have used xrumer. Doesn't quite fit into how I work these days - because I'd rather my sites stay up a little longer.

Want to use it white hat? The closest you can get is to spam your web 2.0 links with it or free hosting links with it instead of your own sites. Have those places link to you.

That's as close as you can get with covering your tail.

[kkchoon]

How about this scenario, will this work or not:

1. Collect the list of url from hrefer, run it on a page rank checker, filter out any list below PR 4, and only list forums that are related to your niche.

2. Create 2 accounts in each forum, one asking a general questions regarding your niche, another answer.

3. Randomize your question and answer with link(s).

4. Schedule and build 100 ~ 500 links with this software everyday, run it for 30 days and you get at least 3000 links to your site.

I am thinking of using XRumer in this way, can it be done? I once get SEOLinkPro, but all the links collected from spammy sites, I just can't accept it, ask for refund and they Gladly do it for me!

Now, I am looking for a powerful tools to automate some link building, and XRumer seems to be the answer, but I don't want to piss off people and spmming all over the net, getting 3000 High PR links for me is a lot valuable than 3 million spam links.

I really wish someone with great success from XRumer can tell me if it can be done this way, just like some answer.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

lol,

Why do you refuse to accept the answers you get?

It's a SPAM TOOL.

Even using it the way you outlined above is still SPAM.

What kind of question are you going to ask? Lets say you ask a general question like: "how do you change a light bulb" - How many forums do you think that will actually fit into? Probably not many...Thus, it will be SPAM and your post will be deleted...along with your link.

It is a very powerful tool, but I don't think it's very likely that someone is going to outline a tutorial here on the Warrior Forum that lays out a good way to spam...

[kkchoon]

Hi Jeremy,

Can you define spam? white, grey or black hat seo method? I bet you can't draw the line.

Spam tool or not is not my concern, I am asking if it can do what I outlined in the previous post. What I consider white or grey hat may not be the same as yours, and I am comfortable to do that - even if you call it spam!

Leaving a comment with your name as keyword on a blog, in my strict dictionary is spam! The question is not about ethical or not, is about adding value to the community.

When I saw people leaving a comment with links, if they give good comment, I will approve it, because I don't mind sharing links, that's where commentluv come into play! You actually want people to leave comment to help you add value to your blog, in exchange with some "LOVE" link back to them!

Back to this topic, my idea of getting links from High PR forums is similar to what people do to get links from High PR forum. They may participate for few posts until their signature links show up, and gone for ever. They continues to all forums for the purpose of back links.

I am thinking if there is a software that simulate a question and answer on the forum, it add values to the community (may be not :P), in exchange for a link back, isn't this better than pure spamming?

And BTW, why won't someone to share their experience here...? May be I should ask this question on other forum, can you at least give me some resources?

I don't care if XRumer is a spamming tool or not, but can I do it this way so that may be ** some ** forum administrator will let me SPAM them? Just a though, need to test to conclude that.

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Hi Jeremy,

Can you define spam? white, grey or black hat seo method? I bet you can't draw the line.

Spam is spam. If you are running a tool like xrumer to place a high number of links then you are spamming, regardless of your definition of the word.

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Spam tool or not is not my concern, I am asking if it can do what I outlined in the previous post. What I consider white or grey hat may not be the same as yours, and I am comfortable to do that - even if you call it spam!

Can it do it? Sure...

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Leaving a comment with your name as keyword on a blog, in my strict dictionary is spam! The question is not about ethical or not, is about adding value to the community.

What value can you possibly add? I think it is funny as hell that people can somehow justify hit and run linking with adding value. Using these types of tools you add ZERO value.

Originally Posted by kkchoon

When I saw people leaving a comment with links, if they give good comment, I will approve it, because I don't mind sharing links, that's where commentluv come into play! You actually want people to leave comment to help you add value to your blog, in exchange with some "LOVE" link back to them!

Some people don't use things like commentluv because they don't want to be spammed. Come to think of it, most people that run commentluv don't want to be spammed either lol - Can you give us a list of your sites that you like to get spammed? Our VA has some free time tomorrow...

Originally Posted by kkchoon

And BTW, why won't someone to share their experience here...? May be I should ask this question on other forum, can you at least give me some resources?

Better question...

Why would a community of people that run sites, forums, and blogs lay out a play to teach people how to spam... that would be pretty dumb if you ask me.

Originally Posted by kkchoon

I don't care if XRumer is a spamming tool or not, but can I do it this way so that may be ** some ** forum administrator will let me SPAM them? Just a though, need to test to conclude that.

lol...

Make sure you "test" on a site you don't care about

[kkchoon]

Will do Jeremy! Thanks for your answer.

I am still tempting to try XRumer, if you call it black, spam tool, so be it.

Actually, many of the marketer including me like to comment for link and traffic, if you call that spam, so be it.

Just here to make some money and not pissing people off, if I can't find a way to use this software without piss off people, this tool is not for me

Thanks everyone for the answer and clarification! Appreciate it! If anyone with XRumer experience to share, deeply appreciated!

[proveitworks]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Will do Jeremy! Thanks for your answer.

I am still tempting to try XRumer, if you call it black, spam tool, so be it.

Actually, many of the marketer including me like to comment for link and traffic, if you call that spam, so be it.

Just here to make some money and not pissing people off, if I can't find a way to use this software without piss off people, this tool is not for me

Thanks everyone for the answer and clarification! Appreciate it! If anyone with XRumer experience to share, deeply appreciated!

Spam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic)

I have xrummer and stopped using it because its a SHORT term solution...and hard work.

BUT I have heard others use it to spam competitors sites = too many back links too fast Mr G says oh oh landing page is a splog etc....be warned.

[kkchoon]

Thanks for the heads up! I am sure there are ways to use it, I heard that version 5 can help you filter "spam" sites and generate better links...

[GuerrillaIM]

It's like throwing sh1t at a wall. You throw it and see what sticks. You can't use it to provide value , it's not possible. What would you post to 100,000 website that would be useful to all of them and benefit every community? Doing it the white hat way you would read every post and make a helpful, ontopic reply. You can't do that without actually reading what you are commenting on.

The reason some links stick with xrumer is that they get overlooked or the structure of message fools mod into thinking its a genuine post.

Why don't you download the demo version and look at how it works yourself?

[kkchoon]

I think you are right, let me try it out myself... thanks!

[Matty1784]

1. Collect the list of url from hrefer, run it on a page rank checker, filter out any list below PR 4, and only list forums that are related to your niche.

2. Create 2 accounts in each forum, one asking a general questions regarding your niche, another answer.

3. Randomize your question and answer with link(s).

4. Schedule and build 100 ~ 500 links with this software everyday, run it for 30 days and you get at least 3000 links to your site.

Ok, here I am. You can do the above, yes ! Anyway you have to spend over 500$ for XRumer and you have to spend about a month of learning and trying. They will not refund if you fail. It's russians and they keep some secrets to themselves. Even some menues in the soft are still in russian language (But you will understand !!). You have to have a good connection, >25MBit/sec recommended. Yes, people will complain, people will send you emails with "stop spamming!". Yes you can do 2nd level spam (spamming your backlinks), but if you overdo this, this will not look natural for google too.

You should be somewhat advanced, I am doing SEO and IM for over 2 years now. 500$ is nothing for me so I gave it a try. Made my money back, but it's not a tool that makes you money on autopilot. You have to understand SEO !! Also keep in mind that you have to pay 100$/year to use XRumer for your lifetime

[mikkosant]

You can find people with a lot more experience with xrumer at bluefartworlddotcom

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by Matty1784

Ok, here I am. You can do the above, yes ! Anyway you have to spend over 500$ for XRumer and you have to spend about a month of learning and trying. They will not refund if you fail. It's russians and they keep some secrets to themselves. Even some menues in the soft are still in russian language (But you will understand !!). You have to have a good connection, >25MBit/sec recommended. Yes, people will complain, people will send you emails with "stop spamming!". Yes you can do 2nd level spam (spamming your backlinks), but if you overdo this, this will not look natural for google too.

You should be somewhat advanced, I am doing SEO and IM for over 2 years now. 500$ is nothing for me so I gave it a try. Made my money back, but it's not a tool that makes you money on autopilot. You have to understand SEO !! Also keep in mind that you have to pay 100$/year to use XRumer for your lifetime

Just paid $100 to try out the XRumer blast, 200K posts and seems like a poor stick rate...

I'm sure there are a way to make this work, but I hate the idea of pure spamming, because I don't want people to spam my site without contribution...

I love the power of captcha solving in XRumer, but the cost to run it may be a bit too high. If every 100K blast only get you 1,000 backlinks, that is ... rather stupid, there must be a way to do thing more effective, what is your experience?

I believe if there is a proper course of XRumer, it should sell like hot cake! Black hat guy just love these tricky stuff and keep them to themselves, too bad for us..

Originally Posted by mikkosant

You can find people with a lot more experience with xrumer at bluefartworlddotcom

I visit that forum sometime, nice place to find some good resources

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by gbmack

Xrumer will help you.

The least it could do is nothing.

Nothing you said is making sense to me

[affiliated survivor]

Why would you use an expensive tool to spam single high PR forums? Isn´t there an easier, less costly way to do this? I think XRumer only makes sense for making massive amounts of links. That´s it´s strength.

I´m curious how your blast will work out. 1,000 backlinks isn´t that much. Massive article distribution to 500 directories, each article containing 2 links, would also give you 1,000 backlinks. And you would not have to be afraid if it is spamming or not.

[Wintermute]

What in the world is "blue fart" ?

[CDarklock]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

What you are saying is - automation = black.

No. He's saying that once you do ENOUGH automation, you cannot possibly know you're following the rules. And if you do it anyway, you don't care.

Not caring whether you're following the rules is NEVER white hat.

[JackPowers]

Some niches can only be promoted properly with tools like Xrumer. Try ranking for 'buy viagra' with article marketing!

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by kkchoon

Just paid $100 to try out the XRumer blast, 200K posts and seems like a poor stick rate... I hate the idea of pure spamming, because I don't want people to spam my site without contribution...

If you hate spamming so much why did you just send out 200,000 spam posts?

[JackPowers]

What I wonder is this: If Google deindexes websites that uses Xrumer, why don't you just use it on your competitors websites? Of course it would be unethical, but I'm sure many people wouldn't care.

Seems like there's more to this than meets the eyes.

Personally, I know that one site that ranks well in one of my niches has used a lot of spamming in their promotion and they rank well.

I think spamming is effective, even if unethical. Google can't deindex sites just because they spam for the very reason I stated above.

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by JackPowers

What I wonder is this: If Google deindexes websites that uses Xrumer, why don't you just use it on your competitors websites? Of course it would be unethical, but I'm sure many people wouldn't care.

Seems like there's more to this than meets the eyes.

Personally, I know that one site that ranks well in one of my niches has used a lot of spamming in their promotion and they rank well.

I think spamming is effective, even if unethical. Google can't deindex sites just because they spam for the very reason I stated above.

I have never seen proof it de-indexes (and I have looked very hard).

What I think it does is "tar with the same brush" the links that the site owner is getting themself.

Lets say for instance you write some articles and make some blog comments. Your links start to build naturally and slowly and you start to get good rankings. By hitting a big xrumer blast as this site, the genuine links could get filtered out as collateral damage along with the spam ones making that site loose its ranking position.

I have seen a site use every spam linking method available. They generated 50k backlinks in space of 6 months and dissapeared from search engines. 6 months later they are back and holding some good rankings.

I believe that the rapid building of links isn't the most damaging thing. I believe google looks for spikes where the amount of links goes up and down sharply. This would indicate spam posts being removed by moderators.

I have heard it mentioned that the most effective way to use xrumer against your competition is to send out a very big blast and get as many links as possible. Then use the post edit feature to go back a week later and edit your post to contain pornographic references so that they definately get deleted. I have never done this, nor do I intend to, so for me it is just theory.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by affiliated survivor

Why would you use an expensive tool to spam single high PR forums? Isn´t there an easier, less costly way to do this? I think XRumer only makes sense for making massive amounts of links. That´s it´s strength.

I´m curious how your blast will work out. 1,000 backlinks isn´t that much. Massive article distribution to 500 directories, each article containing 2 links, would also give you 1,000 backlinks. And you would not have to be afraid if it is spamming or not.

Most spammer don't know about "quality" and proper site structure that will allows you with 1,000 links to outrank 100,000 links!

I must stress again, both quantity and quality matters.

If XRumer is only good to do massive posting of links, the only way I'm going to use it if the stick rate is 50% or more, which I don't think anyone would ever reach that figure, unless he only post to extremely targeted forums with more complicated strategy!

Originally Posted by Wintermute

What in the world is "blue fart" ?

That means "black hat", warriorforum don't will auto convert that word.

Originally Posted by JackPowers

Some niches can only be promoted properly with tools like Xrumer. Try ranking for 'buy viagra' with article marketing!

I believe experience XRumer user can easily rank for that keyword, but don't under estimate article marketing. Anyone can rank for any keyword, just time and effort, and how long it will stay there.

To make article marketing worthwhile, cherry picking low competition keywords are the key! So you are not comparing apple to apple, no point debate here.

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

If you hate spamming so much why did you just send out 200,000 spam posts?

Just for testing, I believe black hat is a lot powerful if done correctly, I want to feel the power!

Knowing how to do it, doesn't necessary mean you agree the way they do things. Like it or not, black hat is black for a reason.

Originally Posted by James Lancaster

It works good if you use it right, but you hvae to use it right. I know that you can pay 20$ for around 20k posts but only some 5-10% will stick unfortunately.

I paid $100 for to blast 300K posts for testing, just too bad I didn't see much result after 2 weeks, still waiting to see if the magic happens.

Originally Posted by JackPowers

What I wonder is this: If Google deindexes websites that uses Xrumer, why don't you just use it on your competitors websites? Of course it would be unethical, but I'm sure many people wouldn't care.

If XRumer can do that, I will setup a Google Bowling service and start helping people to de-index every competitors!

Originally Posted by JackPowers

Seems like there's more to this than meets the eyes.

Personally, I know that one site that ranks well in one of my niches has used a lot of spamming in their promotion and they rank well.

I think spamming is effective, even if unethical. Google can't deindex sites just because they spam for the very reason I stated above.

There is no way Google can do that, not in decades!

Just some simple ways to detect spam already take up so much processing power, unless Google had came up with a simpler and effective spam detection system, there is no way to eliminate spam completely!

Black hat is just too powerful!

Originally Posted by James Lancaster

JackPowers, the thing is - Google doesn't really deindex pages that Xrumer is used on. Otherwise, nobody would be using it.

In theory what you are saying could work but on the other hand you might as well actually help your competition this way.

There are actually methods to rank VERY high by using spam tools and many people are earning 1-2k$ a day doing this.

Black hat or not, there are people earning $10K or more everyday, don't you agree?

[Jack Doug]

since xrumer is a spammingtool, why cant i spam my competitors' siteeS? we just nd someone to try and let us know the results...muahahah! well of course i will not do that...that is really unethical...we are white hat SEOs here!

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by Jack Doug

since xrumer is a spammingtool, why cant i spam my competitors' siteeS? we just nd someone to try and let us know the results...muahahah! well of course i will not do that...that is really unethical...we are white hat SEOs here!

You can try spamming backlinks to your competitor sites, I won't be surprise they all flooded and raise until your head down to page 2

Welcome to the dark site!

[roukarous]

Google will never de-index a site for to many backlinks, that's pure crap. Like other fellow warriors already mentionned, it would be to easy to wipe out competition.

I am actually interested in XRumer but don't like the idea to post spammy messages to a bunch of forums. I would instead use it only to register accounts on a custom list, just to get the backlinks in the profile section. For me that's already enough power and joins a service like Angela or Paul's backlinks.

Unfortunately I never found out if one can use Xrumer only for this. I contacted the owners several times, but didn't receive a reply yet which doesn't inspire much confidence.

[kkchoon]

Originally Posted by roukarous

Google will never de-index a site for to many backlinks, that's pure crap. Like other fellow warriors already mentionned, it would be to easy to wipe out competition.

I am actually interested in XRumer but don't like the idea to post spammy messages to a bunch of forums. I would instead use it only to register accounts on a custom list, just to get the backlinks in the profile section. For me that's already enough power and joins a service like Angela or Paul's backlinks.

Unfortunately I never found out if one can use Xrumer only for this. I contacted the owners several times, but didn't receive a reply yet which doesn't inspire much confidence.

I guest people just use it for spam... will test this software later, see if it can be use for gray hat SEO

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by roukarous

Google will never de-index a site for to many backlinks, that's pure crap. Like other fellow warriors already mentionned, it would be to easy to wipe out competition.

I am actually interested in XRumer but don't like the idea to post spammy messages to a bunch of forums. I would instead use it only to register accounts on a custom list, just to get the backlinks in the profile section. For me that's already enough power and joins a service like Angela or Paul's backlinks.

Unfortunately I never found out if one can use Xrumer only for this. I contacted the owners several times, but didn't receive a reply yet which doesn't inspire much confidence.

It does have a "register only" mode. But, other than the knowledge of its existence, I know nothing about it.

[roukarous]

I received a reply but still don't know if it is possible to use the application for grey hat purposes. Think I'm gonna have a custom application written that fits my needs.

[kkchoon]

I believe XRumer for gray hat is possible...

[roukarous]

Kkchoon, as I understood you weren't very satisfied with the results you obtained from Xrumer. Can you explain what dissapointed you?

Also did you purchase the application yet or was it through a third party service?

Thanks

[kkchoon]

Not yet purchase the software, just get somebody to blast it for me and the result is no good.

I specifically ask for targeted forums with related keywords and post, but I think that guy just blast it without much care about the campaign.

[roukarous]

I wonder what the percentage of successful registrations is without posting.

[stallen]

Hi All,

I have had xrumer for a couple of years now. The latest version has a process called Anti spam which allows you to:

1. Just register on forums without leaving a link
2. It searches forums for relevant questions and then searches forums for relevant answers, and replies on those forums so you can build up trust.
3. Once you have built up the trust you can then post your links.

Word of warning though. the support via the forum is terrible, nearly non existent. But apparently you can talk to the owners via ICQ, never done it myself though.

I think the way forward is to use Serpscraper to get a list of targeted forums using your keyword list generated to target your niche. then use anti spam to post your relevant answers which contain your links.

It does come with its own scraping tool, hrefer but needs proxies to be any good with google as you get blocked almost instantly.

I have only actually started recently to use it again because the instructions are not the best. but the above is the way forward for your white hat exploits as it adds relevant posts.

If anyone could come up with a good xrumer guide, videos, you would make some decent cash as I for one, and no doubt many others, would buy it eagerly.

hope that helps.

stallen

[M0n3yMan]

Why is there always a debate about white grey blackhat, what it all comes down to is each individuals ethics and morals, none of the above is illegal.

Xrumer is a spam tool full stop, Your succes "stick" rate will be around 5% after sme pruning of your list.

The safest way to use xrumer would be to use free blog hosts and web 2.0 sites to write related content with in-context anchor links back to your money site and then use xrumer to blast those urls.

page rank and trust rank flows over more than one hop. Im not talking about creating a linkwheel here as 6-20 free blog hosts is kids stuff and if you think this is seo you need to do some more learning before you mess with xrumer.

You should aim for 100 free blog hosts and then spam each if thoses, thats how to fully leverage parasite hosting and relevnt links.

As people have said there is also a register only option in xrumer, this is simular to the angelas links strategy but on steriods, It will register to the forums and place your link in the signiture section and you will have a higher success rate.

forgt black white blue pink hats because it doesnt matter, do what you feel comfortable doing and if you dont care about using blackhat techniques then learn how to do them safely.

On the de-indexing of sites and competitors side of things, well its relatively simple I dont believe you can completely deindex sites at all, The only effect I have seen is that on NEW sites that get thousands of backlinks they will lose ranking and go into the sandbox for a while but as a little time passes they will re-appear.

[nofearman]

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

This is how Xrumer works.

Step 1) Use hrefer app to build a list of websites based on keyword input
Step 2) Select the correct list ID in xrumer
Step 3) Create new project and fill out account details (it automatically creates you an email address)
Step 4) Write a post. You can use spin operators like {} to try to make it unique but most people just put a message like "Hi I'm new here, hello everyone"
Step 5) Set you thread priority. By default it targets threads like "off topic" where moderation is less and promotional links are usually allowed
Step 6) Click send. It will now spam the spun post to your list, which in a day you can get a list of 500,000 on a good connection.

OK. So PLEASE explain to me your brilliant whitehat method that incorporates this mass spamming tool. I am all ears eagerly awaiting this.

Gee, I thought you were going AWAY from this discussion??

[Shana_Adam]

Big G - no doubt will be reading these threads.

There is no point spamming - the footprints are too easy to identify. Leading back to the person website company or ip eventually.

Big G is the bees knees, no doubt they are coming up with even greater artificial intelligence to smoke out people who clog up the engines.

There has been a lot of cleaning up by all the biggie platforms out there!