Why aren't you selling your product(s) (WSO or not) through multiple marketplaces?

9 years ago

I agree with you Chris but i have never seen a product launched on all digital marketplaces at same time.

I suggested one my client who is launching his product on Clickbank ,to launch on JVzoo and warriorplus too ,but he denied with a lame reason that he want good sales figures before launching on JVZoo and Warriorplus and WSO too.

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by AffiliateWaves

I agree with you Chris but i have never seen a product launched on all digital marketplaces at same time.

I suggested one my client who is launching his product on Clickbank ,to launch on JVzoo and warriorplus too ,but he denied with a lame reason that he want good sales figures before launching on JVZoo and Warriorplus and WSO too.

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Yeah, I'm curious why it isn't the norm to use multiple marketplaces. Maybe people just don't know it's technically possible?

Do you know how you would have pulled this off technically speaking if your client wanted to launch on multiple marketplaces?

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hometutor

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

Yeah, I'm curious why it isn't the norm to use multiple marketplaces. Maybe people just don't know it's technically possible?

Do you know how you would have pulled this off technically speaking if your client wanted to launch on multiple marketplaces?

Chris

I just placed my Clickbank RSS feed generator service on a bunch of Fiverr like sites. I have no objection to being found in multiple stores where people are willing to spend at least a small amount of money. Much easier to do upgrades that way.

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Sid Hale

9 years ago

Of course... that's called advertising.

Originally Posted by hometutor

I just placed my Clickbank RSS feed generator service on a bunch of Fiverr like sites. I have no objection to being found in multiple stores where people are willing to spend at least a small amount of money. Much easier to do upgrades that way.

And if you aren't using an affiliate sales force then you absolutely need to advertise your product yourself.

The difference is that the OP seems to think that an affiliate network is the same thing as a "marketplace". Some of them even have a section of their site called "Marketplace"

It's a misnomer (IMHO).

Those really aren't marketplaces, they are research centers geared to help affiliates evaluate products (based on sales levels rather than feature content) and/or to determine probability of success.

As a rule, people don't buy from an affiliate network. They go there to find products to promote, not products to buy.

Personally, I find that actively recruiting proven affiliate marketers (and then letting them do the advertising - get out of their way) builds a much stronger foundation for future success. Don't compete with them. They are the ones with the reach into your market and the lead generation skills to broaden that reach even more.

That doesn't mean you need to run a strictly limited affiliate program. If an aggressive affiliate marketer manages to find you and approaches you for the opportunity to promote for you, by all means take him/her on board. It could very well be a super affiliate who has just managed to "fly under your radar".

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sid Hale

The difference is that the OP seems to think that an affiliate network is the same thing as a "marketplace". Some of them even have a section of their site called "Marketplace"

It's a misnomer (IMHO).

Those really aren't marketplaces, they are research centers geared to help affiliates evaluate products (based on sales levels rather than feature content) and/or to determine probability of success.

As a rule, people don't buy from an affiliate network. They go there to find products to promote, not products to buy.

Sorry if using the word "marketplace" threw anybody off. Considering the discussion revolved around affiliates (as was the proposed benefit of my multi-"marketplace" suggestion), I think most everyone understood what was going on. If not, my bad.

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hometutor

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sid Hale

Of course... that's called advertising.

Personally, I find that actively recruiting proven affiliate marketers (and then letting them do the advertising - get out of their way) builds a much stronger foundation for future success. Don't compete with them. They are the ones with the reach into your market and the lead generation skills to broaden that reach even more.

That doesn't mean you need to run a strictly limited affiliate program. If an aggressive affiliate marketer manages to find you and approaches you for the opportunity to promote for you, by all means take him/her on board. It could very well be a super affiliate who has just managed to "fly under your radar".

I'd love to, but the Clickbank affiliate rss feed and webpage service is only $4.95 per month. I doubt I'd be able to find affiliates interested in that.

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Ron Killian

9 years ago

Originally Posted by hometutor

I'd love to, but the Clickbank affiliate rss feed and webpage service is only $4.95 per month. I doubt I'd be able to find affiliates interested in that.

Rick

Might only be $4.95 a month, but it is recurring, that is a selling point right there.

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phoebe2015

9 years ago

Originally Posted by AffiliateWaves

I agree with you Chris but i have never seen a product launched on all digital marketplaces at same time.

I suggested one my client who is launching his product on Clickbank ,to launch on JVzoo and warriorplus too ,but he denied with a lame reason that he want good sales figures before launching on JVZoo and Warriorplus and WSO too.

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I have seen a product being launched in both jvzoo and warrior plus at the same time... its 60k in just 5days! I think the creators must believe very strongly that the product can work so they have the confidence of pulling in the sales...

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by phoebe2015

I have seen a product being launched in both jvzoo and warrior plus at the same time... its 60k in just 5days! I think the creators must believe very strongly that the product can work so they have the confidence of pulling in the sales...

For a second I thought you were saying the product made 60k in the 5 days after launch. Wonder how it went though.

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Ron Killian

9 years ago

Part of it might be that most marketplaces don't bring in traffic just for submitting or listing. Still need to promote, so why promote multiple marketplaces? Would mean more promotion and marketing.

Just a thought

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Killian

Part of it might be that most marketplaces don't bring in traffic just for submitting or listing. Still need to promote, so why promote multiple marketplaces? Would mean more promotion and marketing.

Just a thought

Hey Ron,

Makes sense. Especially with Clickbank where it's not normal for affiliates to dig pages into the marketplace to find your zero gravity offer.

My experience with Warrior+ and Warrior payments though has been that plenty of affiliates will come to you (I guess how many depends on the quality of your offer). Affiliates always seem to be looking for the next new thing to promote on those marketplaces. I assume the same for JVZoo, though I have no experience with them.

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Mark Singletary

9 years ago

One reason is that WSOs have to be special and that may cause extra, unwanted work for some.

From the rules:

To post your offer in the Warrior Special Offers Marketplace, your offer must be a special offer or deal available exclusively on the Warrior Forum. The offer cannot be readily available to the public via another distribution platform.

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Singletary

One reason is that WSOs have to be special and that may cause extra, unwanted work for some.

From the rules:

"To post your offer in the Warrior Special Offers Marketplace, your offer must be a special offer or deal available exclusively on the Warrior Forum. The offer cannot be readily available to the public via another distribution platform."

Mark

Hey Mark,

Some confusion, sorry.

The question was not specifically for WSOs, but we can roll with that...

If we're talking WSOs, "marketplaces" I'm referring to would be Warrior+, JVZoo and Warrior payments. Maybe "marketplace" isn't the best term? But that's still what I think of them, as much as they are also "selling tools".

Sticking to WSOs. I'm suggesting using Warrior+, JVZoo and Warrior payments all at the same time for max affiliates, awareness of your offer, etc.

That does not void the "special-ness" of your WSO, and does not require you to make multiple products.

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inyourway

9 years ago

Sorry for not reading the whole thread and all the replies within but I just had to ask a thing or two regarding this.

On Warrior payments for instance, you can create your offer and be able to get affiliates. Does that require you to use their specific buy buttons on your site or within your salespage etc? Or would it be okay not using them, just using those places to gain affiliates who'll work their arses off for making sales for you...?

In case it's not required, then I can't see any reason for not using them at the same time as you use jvzoo or warrior+. Especially since you could launch your WSO for one price (since it's a special offer) while using the other ones just for bringing in affiliates and charge a bit more. Let's say your WSO has a pricetag of $17, using warrior+. Then you could create your offer and set the pricetag of $20 instead, on the other places. (JVZoo and Warrior Payments..) Am I wrong?

Fun thread actually. Never thought about it this way before.

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Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

Hey Mark,

Some confusion, sorry.

The question was not specifically for WSOs, but we can roll with that...

If we're talking WSOs, "marketplaces" I'm referring to would be Warrior+, JVZoo and Warrior payments. Maybe "marketplace" isn't the best term? But that's still what I think of them, as much as they are also "selling tools".

Sticking to WSOs. I'm suggesting using Warrior+, JVZoo and Warrior payments all at the same time for max affiliates, awareness of your offer, etc.

That does not void the "special-ness" of your WSO, and does not require you to make multiple products.

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Chris

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by inyourway

On Warrior payments for instance, you can create your offer and be able to get affiliates. Does that require you to use their specific buy buttons on your site or within your salespage etc? Or would it be okay not using them, just using those places to gain affiliates who'll work their arses off for making sales for you...?

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André

Hi André,

Yes, it's required to use their button, make sure referred visitors checkout through the correct network, etc. But through a script, it's possible to have the appropriate button show depending on which network the visitor was referred by (using a single sales page).

Alternatively, you could make a separate sales page for each network...but that's not ideal for what I mentioned in my original post.

For example, if an affiliate from W+ promotes your offer...the visitor they refer would see the W+ buy button and checkout via W+. If an affiliate from JVZoo promotes your offer...the visitor they refer would see the JVZoo buy button and checkout via JVZoo.

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heavysm 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Singletary

One reason is that WSOs have to be special and that may cause extra, unwanted work for some.

From the rules:

Mark

The price just needs to be special in minimum case scenario.

So i could have my product on digitalpoint and other forums, while my WSO price is slightly less than those other platforms, and everything is perfectly okay.

The the fallacy that the product itself has to be increased or decreased to meet the special WSO is just that: a fallacy.

As long as you're getting a special deal on the product itself (namely a discount) you're totally fine.

And buy buttons don't take much effort to create. So really, it's a misconeption.
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Ron Killian

9 years ago

If one is looking to leverage affiliate sales, or go that route, obviously the most important aspect is to find those affiliates that will even sell, or have the ability to make sales. I've gotten tons of affiliate requests on JVzoo, but very few actually make sales. Just an example. Same on all affiliate platforms.

So, time would be best spent learning how to recruit the right affiliates, or build up contacts.The sales platform should be secondary. And the platform might even depend on the affiliates you do recruit.

Just a thought

Friend of mine went to great lengths to find the right affiliate for his new product some time back. With only one or two of the right ones he had 10K in sales. Might be chump change to some marketers, but just goes to prove the rule that 20% do 80% of the work. Affiliates are no exception to the rule. Probably more like 10/90.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Killian

If one is looking to leverage affiliate sales, or go that route, obviously the most important aspect is to find those affiliates that will even sell, or have the ability to make sales. I've gotten tons of affiliate requests on JVzoo, but very few actually make sales. Just an example. Same on all affiliate platforms.

True. The majority of affiliates you approve will not end up making sales or even promoting your offer. But that's not to say that affiliates that come to you are not capable of driving sales. Looking back into my W+ account I can see 22 affiliates that made <5 sales each. I did not recruit them, but their actions still led to an extra ~$1,000 for me after commissions...

I'll take it.

Theoretically, listing your offer in multiple marketplaces (W+, JVZoo, Warrior Payments) would increase the amount of affiliates coming to you. And those affiliates making, for example, <5 sales each would only add up even more than what I've experienced with a single marketplace.

I'm not suggesting using multiple marketplaces are the magic bullet for massive sales, but my gut tells me we're leaving money on the table by not doing just that. Especially when (W+, JVZoo, Warrior Payments) do not cost us anything upfront to implement.

Originally Posted by Ron Killian

So, time would be best spent learning how to recruit the right affiliates, or build up contacts.The sales platform should be secondary. And the platform might even depend on the affiliates you do recruit.

Just a thought

I don't disagree. But if you can set up your offer on 3 marketplaces instead of 1 inside of an hour...you'll still have plenty of time for that affiliate/contact building. It's not one or the other.

Originally Posted by Ron Killian

Friend of mine went to great lengths to find the right affiliate for his new product some time back. With only one or two of the right ones he had 10K in sales. Might be chump change to some marketers, but just goes to prove the rule that 20% do 80% of the work. Affiliates are no exception to the rule. Probably more like 10/90.

I've experienced this myself. But landing a whale of an affiliate isn't easy for anybody to just up and do...whereas multiple marketplaces is something that anybody can do with minimal effort.

Not suggesting you do one instead of the other...But I feel the opportunity of having more affiliates (that come to you) making a small amount of sales each, is not something to be discounted. If my old W+ stats are any indication, then more the merrier I say.

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Ron Killian

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

True. The majority of affiliates you approve will not end up making sales or even promoting your offer. But that's not to say that affiliates that come to you are not capable of driving sales. Looking back into my W+ account I can see 22 affiliates that made <5 sales each. I did not recruit them, but their actions still led to an extra ~$1,000 for me after commissions...

I'll take it.

Theoretically, listing your offer in multiple marketplaces (W+, JVZoo, Warrior Payments) would increase the amount of affiliates coming to you. And those affiliates making, for example, <5 sales each would only add up even more than what I've experienced with a single marketplace.

I'm not suggesting using multiple marketplaces are the magic bullet for massive sales, but my gut tells me we're leaving money on the table by not doing just that. Especially when (W+, JVZoo, Warrior Payments) do not cost us anything upfront to implement.

I don't disagree. But if you can set up your offer on 3 marketplaces instead of 1 inside of an hour...you'll still have plenty of time for that affiliate/contact building. It's not one or the other.

I've experienced this myself. But landing a whale of an affiliate isn't easy for anybody to just up and do...whereas multiple marketplaces is something that anybody can do with minimal effort.

Not suggesting you do one instead of the other...But I feel the opportunity of having more affiliates (that come to you) making a small amount of sales each, is not something to be discounted. If my old W+ stats are any indication, then more the merrier I say.

Thanks Ron,
Chris

Your experience is better than mine and from what I've seen and heard from others. But yes, I'd take 20 affiliates doing <5 sales. Of course. Just seems kind of rare. Or the fact that most of my stuff is on JVzoo and I don't do instant commissions unless I know the person. Could be putting people off, but I am not going to take the chance. Too many scammers. Or could be I am just not getting those that don't have the traffic to make the sales. Could be many things.

I am not disagreeing with your idea. Nothing wrong with putting products up on multiple platforms.

Long as you still devote time to recruiting better affiliates, was all that I was really saying

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Killian

Your experience is better than mine and from what I've seen and heard from others. But yes, I'd take 20 affiliates doing <5 sales. Of course. Just seems kind of rare. Or the fact that most of my stuff is on JVzoo and I don't do instant commissions unless I know the person. Could be putting people off, but I am not going to take the chance. Too many scammers. Or could be I am just not getting those that don't have the traffic to make the sales. Could be many things.

I am not disagreeing with your idea. Nothing wrong with putting products up on multiple platforms.

Long as you still devote time to recruiting better affiliates, was all that I was really saying

Ah ok.

I've never sold on JVZoo before. So my experience is strictly W+ and it's been a few years at that. Adaptive/instant payments weren't a thing back then...they rotated sales between affiliate and vendor.

I can see why you would think twice about the "unknown" ones then if there's potential for being scammed. I don't remember having that same reservation in the past...

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Ron Killian

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

Ah ok.

I've never sold on JVZoo before. So my experience is strictly W+ and it's been a few years at that. Adaptive/instant payments weren't a thing back then...they rotated sales between affiliate and vendor.

I can see why you would think twice about the "unknown" ones then if there's potential for being scammed. I don't remember having that same reservation in the past...

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I don't remember it being a issue a few years back either. But I guess the bad guys realized they could make easy instant cash with hacked PP accounts and leave the product owner holding the bag.

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James3013 9 years ago

I guess that's a great idea Chris.
Every network/marketplace has it's own rules, regulations and characteristics.
Buy launching the product on multiple networks you'll be utilising the features of all at the same time!
As others have mentioned, I don't think there's any other reason than, not thinking of the idea itself in the first place.
It also depends on what type of network suits best to your product or offer, maybe that's the reason people dig deep and not wide.
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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Killian

I don't remember it being a issue a few years back either. But I guess the bad guys realized they could make easy instant cash with hacked PP accounts and leave the product owner holding the bag.

Yeah it's unfortunate.

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Sid Hale

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

I've never sold on JVZoo before. So my experience is strictly W+ and it's been a few years at that. Adaptive/instant payments weren't a thing back then...they rotated sales between affiliate and vendor.

I can see why you would think twice about the "unknown" ones then if there's potential for being scammed. I don't remember having that same reservation in the past...

That's because affiliate fraud simply wasn't nearly as big a problem in the past.

For the merchant, rotating sales is inherently safer than adaptive payments. It's a great way to implement instant revenue sharing (i.e. for a true joint venture partner who is already vetted), but there is no facility to automatically recoup commissions from semi-random affiliates who have been lured into promoting for you simply because you offer instant commissions.

Adaptive payments were developed not by jvZoo, or Warrior Plus... they were developed by Paypal

And let's face it. Paypal has no desire to be involved in vendor/affiliate disputes. If the customer wants a refund, and Paypal decides they are within their rights... Paypal will issue that refund from the vendor's account. It's up to the vendor to recoup that portion that he doled out to someone else (the affiliate).

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9 years ago

This is right on the money, Ron...

Originally Posted by Ron Killian

If one is looking to leverage affiliate sales, or go that route, obviously the most important aspect is to find those affiliates that will even sell, or have the ability to make sales. I've gotten tons of affiliate requests on JVzoo, but very few actually make sales. Just an example. Same on all affiliate platforms.

So, time would be best spent learning how to recruit the right affiliates, or build up contacts.The sales platform should be secondary. And the platform might even depend on the affiliates you do recruit.

Just a thought

Friend of mine went to great lengths to find the right affiliate for his new product some time back. With only one or two of the right ones he had 10K in sales. Might be chump change to some marketers, but just goes to prove the rule that 20% do 80% of the work. Affiliates are no exception to the rule. Probably more like 10/90.

Add to that the fact that there is probably a HUGE overlap in affiliates between the various affiliate networks (especially Warrior Plus and jvZoo), and the additional effort to list and track affiliates between the various networks can become more headache than it's worth.

Even if a vendor goes with one of the affiliate networks to get a boost from that exposure - it's silly not to actively seek out good affiliate marketers, rather than leaving everything to chance.

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

True. The majority of affiliates you approve will not end up making sales or even promoting your offer. But that's not to say that affiliates that come to you are not capable of driving sales. Looking back into my W+ account I can see 22 affiliates that made <5 sales each. I did not recruit them, but their actions still led to an extra ~$1,000 for me after commissions...

I'll take it.

The fallacy here is that you are assuming that listing on another affiliate network would have potentially gotten you yet another $1000 sales - and that's certainly possible. But... it's also possible that (because affiliates typically belong to and promote offers from multiple affiliate networks) you would just be preaching to the choir.

The point that Ron was making is that by actively seeking out and recruiting specific affiliates you can not only get better sales results than just waiting for the affiliates to seek you out, BUT... after that first product sale you can call on them to promote your next offer for even better/longer term results.

I've experienced this myself. But landing a whale of an affiliate isn't easy for anybody to just up and do...whereas multiple marketplaces is something that anybody can do with minimal effort.

Not suggesting you do one instead of the other...But I feel the opportunity of having more affiliates (that come to you) making a small amount of sales each, is not something to be discounted. If my old W+ stats are any indication, then more the merrier I say.

And it won't get any easier until you've done it a few times, but it beats the hell out of only having affiliates that either 1) can't produce sales at all, or 2) can only draw in prospects for low-end products.

It's a self-perpetuating dilemma. Take the easy road and get mediocre results (over and over again), or recruit quality affiliates that can produce better results and get prospects to your door on higher ticket items.

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sid Hale

This is right on the money, Ron...

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Add to that the fact that there is probably a HUGE overlap in affiliates between the various affiliate networks (especially Warrior Plus and jvZoo), and the additional effort to list and track affiliates between the various networks can become more headache than it's worth.

Even if a vendor goes with one of the affiliate networks to get a boost from that exposure - it's silly not to actively seek out good affiliate marketers, rather than leaving everything to chance.

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The fallacy here is that you are assuming that listing on another affiliate network would have potentially gotten you yet another $1000 sales - and that's certainly possible. But... it's also possible that (because affiliates typically belong to and promote offers from multiple affiliate networks) you would just be preaching to the choir.

The point that Ron was making is that by actively seeking out and recruiting specific affiliates you can not only get better sales results than just waiting for the affiliates to seek you out, BUT... after that first product sale you can call on them to promote your next offer for even better/longer term results.

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And it won't get any easier until you've done it a few times, but it beats the hell out of only having affiliates that either 1) can't produce sales at all, or 2) can only draw in prospects for low-end products.

It's a self-perpetuating dilemma. Take the easy road and get mediocre results (over and over again), or recruit quality affiliates that can produce better results and get prospects to your door on higher ticket items.

Thanks Sid.

I get where you and Ron are coming from with the "you should actively be seeking out good affiliates" response.

I'm not sure who said that if you go with an affiliate network (or multiple) you can't also seek out great affiliates on your own. Those actions are not mutually exclusive.

Why not do both? You said yourself..."boost from that exposure." Why not get that boost from multiple networks AND recruit affiliates yourself?

Setting up your offer on multiple networks is a straightforward, technical task that doesn't involve much time. Whereas affiliate recruiting is more involved...especially for someone that doesn't already have those "connections."

I think it's kinda apples and oranges to suggest that putting your offer on multiple networks is not worthwhile because you should focus on recruiting good affiliates yourself.

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Ron Killian

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sid Hale

The point that Ron was making is that by actively seeking out and recruiting specific affiliates you can not only get better sales results than just waiting for the affiliates to seek you out, BUT... after that first product sale you can call on them to promote your next offer for even better/longer term results.

And it won't get any easier until you've done it a few times, but it beats the hell out of only having affiliates that either 1) can't produce sales at all, or 2) can only draw in prospects for low-end products.

It's a self-perpetuating dilemma. Take the easy road and get mediocre results (over and over again), or recruit quality affiliates that can produce better results and get prospects to your door on higher ticket items.

Exactly. Building contacts. It's like a buyers list on steroids.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Killian

If one is looking to leverage affiliate sales, or go that route, obviously the most important aspect is to find those affiliates that will even sell, or have the ability to make sales. I've gotten tons of affiliate requests on JVzoo, but very few actually make sales. Just an example. Same on all affiliate platforms.

So, time would be best spent learning how to recruit the right affiliates, or build up contacts.The sales platform should be secondary. And the platform might even depend on the affiliates you do recruit.

Just a thought

Friend of mine went to great lengths to find the right affiliate for his new product some time back. With only one or two of the right ones he had 10K in sales. Might be chump change to some marketers, but just goes to prove the rule that 20% do 80% of the work. Affiliates are no exception to the rule. Probably more like 10/90.

Couldnt agree better on this... the right affiliate to promote the product... i did request to promote some big products on jvzoo but without proper guidance and resources it was especially difficult. Sometimes all it takes is for the creators of the product to put up a short video and writeup illustrating how the sales funnel works and why it is worth promoting the product. This will encourage affiliates to promote it even further.

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AntonioSeegars1

9 years ago

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Chris Reeves 9 years ago

Originally Posted by AntonioSeegars1

I think that people don't do it for the simple fact that they just haven't thought about doing it, and because many people don't create many products.

Hi Antonio,

Yeah, that's a possibility. I've seen a lot of "should I use JVZoo or Clickbank?" type questions thrown around. Maybe people just don't know it's technically possible to do both at the same time.

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hrishivardhan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

Hey guys,

Selling through multiple marketplaces at the same time seems like the ultimate way of squeezing the most $$$ out of your offer. Theoretically, more affiliates = more traffic = more sales.

How many of you are doing this? If so, what solution are you using? If not, what's stopping you?

I understand that technically speaking, this is not something you can just up and do. You need to make sure that if visitors came from a certain marketplace, they checkout with that same marketplace for the sake of affiliates.

I've heard of people setting up unique sales pages for each network...the obvious flaw here is that if an affiliate refers a visitor and they do not purchase right way, the risk exists that the visitor will later find a different page (through Google, for example) and checkout through the wrong marketplace (no commission for the affiliate).

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How you do this Chris ? Are you using any software for multichannel selling?

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Chris Reeves 9 years ago

Originally Posted by hrishivardhan

How you do this Chris ? Are you using any software for multichannel selling?

It's something I've seriously considered doing myself for a while. So a couple weeks ago I did spend a Saturday figuring out how to do it while still only using a single website/sales page.

While I think it's a no-brainer idea, I wanted to see if there was any particular reason I overlooked as to why more people aren't doing this.

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Joan Altz

9 years ago

Some sellers do setups on multiple marketplaces - Sean Donahoe (Profit Builder, Rapid Mailer - on JVZoo and CB), Suzanna Theresia (Instabuilder 2.0) launched on JVZoo, then took it down and set up on both CB and Zaxaa. Explaindio 2.0 is on both JVZoo and CB.

I think most just get comfortable with one marketplace and stick with that if its working for them.

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joan Altz

Some sellers do setups on multiple marketplaces - Sean Donahoe (Profit Builder, Rapid Mailer - on JVZoo and CB), Suzanna Theresia (Instabuilder 2.0) launched on JVZoo, then took it down and set up on both CB and Zaxaa. Explaindio 2.0 is on both JVZoo and CB.

I think most just get comfortable with one marketplace and stick with that if its working for them.

Hey Joan,

Cool, thanks for that info. Do you know if Sean used a different sales page (URL) for each marketplace? E.g. traffic from CB goes to a specific CB sales page URL, while traffic from JVZoo goes to a JVZoo specific sales page URL?

Chris

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Joan Altz

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

Hey Joan,

Cool, thanks for that info. Do you know if Sean used a different sales page (URL) for each marketplace? E.g. traffic from CB goes to a specific CB sales page URL, while traffic from JVZoo goes to a JVZoo specific sales page URL?

Chris

Nope. He uses the same url for both - wpprofitbuilder com

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joan Altz

Nope. He uses the same url for both - wpprofitbuilder com

Now that you mention it, I remember seeing that JV page before.

"After the PHENOMENAL success of our previous two launches that both launched on both JVZoo and ClickBank simultaneously...We are doing it again! If you don't qualify for instant payments you can jump on CB with ZERO approval needed..."

Must be something to it.

Anyone know if it's common for people to not "qualify" for instant payments on JVZoo? Up to vendor?

Thanks Joan!
Chris

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Joan Altz

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

Anyone know if it's common for people to not "qualify" for instant payments on JVZoo? Up to vendor?

It used to be up to the vendor, but now JVZoo has a policy that prevents any new affiliate from earning instant commissions until they reach a certain unspecified number of sales and time promoting as an affiliate.

It's up to the vendor with regard to all other affiliates. Some require 25 sales before approving for instant payments, and some 100.

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joan Altz

It used to be up to the vendor, but now JVZoo has a policy that prevents any new affiliate from earning instant commissions until they reach a certain unspecified number of sales and time promoting as an affiliate.

It's up to the vendor with regard to all other affiliates. Some require 25 sales before approving for instant payments, and some 100.

Thanks for the info, that's great to know...and potentially another good reason to sell on multiple marketplaces. I'm sure many affiliates scout all of them, but if an affiliate can promote an offer through their preferred platform, it's all the better.

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Chris

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MarkHernandez

9 years ago

Definitely there are blogs and forums that you can list up your product on, even solid networks like JVZoo and CB, but they all take daily efforts if you want to see some traction!

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GarlandBergeron

9 years ago

That's really good question, people should be using this platform to validate their idea and get their numbers like EPC and moving on to other platforms but sadly, that's being done very rarely!

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Joan Altz

9 years ago

Hey Chris, I don't know if you are still following this thread, but I stumbled on a sales page for a plugin that enables you to sell a product on JVZoo, CB and Warrior Plus at the same time with one sales page.

Can't give you a review because I haven't tried it.

Here is the link.

wpJVPro WPJVPro Sales - wpJVPro

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Joan Altz

Hey Chris, I don't know if you are still following this thread, but I stumbled on a sales page for a plugin that enables you to sell a product on JVZoo, CB and Warrior Plus at the same time with one sales page.

Can't give you a review because I haven't tried it.

Here is the link.

wpJVPro WPJVPro Sales - wpJVPro

Thanks Joan.

I made something myself as well that's not platform specific, though.

Never really got the "I'm doing it and my sales increased by XXX" type of indication that I was looking for out of this thread...so I'm still unsure if I'll put it to use or not.

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Chris

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Randall Magwood

9 years ago

I sell my product in different marketplaces.

- Tradebit
- Payloadz
- Clickbank
- Paydotcom
- My site
- Amazon
- Lulu
- Barnes and Nobles

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Sid Hale

9 years ago

Hey Chris,

I think you got the right answer from both Ron and myself very early in this thread, but you seemed intent on getting YOUR answer...

Originally Posted by Chris Reeves

Never really got the "I'm doing it and my sales increased by XXX" type of indication that I was looking for out of this thread...so I'm still unsure if I'll put it to use or not

Oh wait... here's someone promoting on multiple "marketplaces".

Unfortunately, he didn't supply the critical piece of the puzzle so we don't know how much more his sales may have increased from each of those marketplaces, nor how much of it is due to increased affiliate sales from those marketplaces.

Originally Posted by Randall Magwood

I sell my product in different marketplaces.

- Tradebit
- Payloadz
- Clickbank
- Paydotcom
- My site
- Amazon
- Lulu
- Barnes and Nobles

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Chris Reeves

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sid Hale

Hey Chris,

I think you got the right answer from both Ron and myself very early in this thread, but you seemed intent on getting YOUR answer...

Oh wait... here's someone promoting on multiple "marketplaces".

Unfortunately, he didn't supply the critical piece of the puzzle so we don't know how much more his sales may have increased from each of those marketplaces, nor how much of it is due to increased affiliate sales from those marketplaces.

Hey Sid,

I myself feel that this is a great idea...not trying to hide it.

My interest in the beginning was more on the technical aspect of things (I create apps, etc.). I was curious how people were technically accomplishing this, if at all.

I get from your posts that you don't think utilizing multiple networks is worth it, but nothing you've said validates or invalidates this idea. You're saying time is better spent elsewhere, which is fine, but doesn't prove there's no advantage to be had.

Unfortunately, since my original interest was more technical (I was already set on there being on obvious advantage), the question isn't asking for hard data that proves whether or not increases in sales have actually been had. It really is a hard thing to measure/test, after all.

But theoretically, signs point to yes...or at worst, little to no effect.

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Chris

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alimov

9 years ago

so which are the best networks to work with? and how it could be done with them? all of them require salespage?

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GlenH 9 years ago

I sell my software products through JVZoo and Clickbank, with separate sales pages for each platform.

Clean, simple and easy to do.
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- Chris Reeves 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by GlenH
  
  I sell my software products through JVZoo and Clickbank, with separate sales pages for each platform.
  
  Clean, simple and easy to do.
  
  Hey Glen,
  
  Which shows up in Google? or do you have separate domains/product names for each platform?
  
  Thanks,
  Chris
  
  Edit: I just mean what network do you default to for organic traffic if you get any.
  
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Chris Reeves 9 years ago

Originally Posted by alimov

so which are the best networks to work with? and how it could be done with them? all of them require salespage?

Some do multiple sales pages, but technically it's possible to use a single sales page. Ideally, you wouldn't want multiple sales pages...because a visitor referred by an affiliate may come back to your offer organically later and checkout via the wrong sales page (leading to missed affiliate commission).

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Chris
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Bobslej

8 years ago

I have a question as I don't understand one thing. If I go with JVzoo or Warrior+, do I still have a chance for Warrior Forum to promote my product? I mean the email blasts they are sending to their list from time to time? I know I can put my product on JVzoo, and then create WSO listing and bump it up. But how about this option, where they are suggesting to give at least 80% to Warrior Forum and they will consider promoting your product? Or this is not the case at all, and they only promote Deals Of The Week to their lists? I am confused.

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