Praying for IM success

9 years ago

Internet marketing is one of the highest paying professions in the world, but it's not easy. So, I can see where you're coming from.

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lanfear63

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

Hello,

At any point, as anyone gotten frustrated enough in IM that they started to pray for success?

I have begged to the IM Gods for six figures in my mind. lol

A little tip, Claude loves dounuts.

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Zodiax 9 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

A little tip, Claude loves dounuts.

I think Claude TAKES six figures, but not GIVE it.
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- lanfear63 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Zodiax
  
  I think Claude TAKES six figures, but not GIVE it.
  
  No, he weighs enough for six figures
  
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  Zodiax 9 years ago
  
  I posted this in the off-topic forum and it was moved to the main forum because of it being 'inappropriate'.
  
  I never want to be reported for off-topic posts again....
  
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  tagiscom 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by lanfear63
  
  A little tip, Claude loves dounuts.
  
  Lol, yes with one fallen god, Claude is all we have left!
  
  Praying, not really, IM is all about trial and error, and unless dumb luck plays a part, most of the time it is fail, learn, fail, learn, try something new, fail, learn, etc.
  
  You basically try something until you can see it all, or have a good idea as to what it will take to make it work.
  
  Usually the price is too high or it is in a field you are not passionate about or you basically have to start from scratch learning something new.
  
  You succeed about 2% of the time online, but when you find something then it can create wealth quickly, although in other cases it can take a while?
  
  I have been online for about 7.5 years, and have tried virtually everything, and the only thing that has worked for me is what l am doing now, (doing graphic products).
  
  I am still trying to figure out how the big boys over there are creating wealth, (Graphicriver)? And have had a recent small failure, trying to achieve that end. But l will learn from that and try something else that is more favorable.
  
  Don't listen to family, odd's on they haven't a clue about IM; Don't listen to friends, odd's on most if not all will disappear anyway?
  
  Only hold on to the unwavering belief that trial and error and persistence will make you a winner in the end!
  
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Miguelito203

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

Hello,

At any point, as anyone gotten frustrated enough in IM that they started to pray for success?

I have begged to the IM Gods for six figures in my mind. lol

I'd say that praying is pretty common -- especially when things aren't working out like you hoped. However, in order to actually get over the hurdle, it takes work and the proper mind set. You still have to figure out what you're doing wrong, and then take the necessary steps to fix the problem. The majority of people who make it big in this online thing (including things like Youtube or anything at all, really), do it for years.

Joey

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The Niche Man 9 years ago

To each his or her own. But personally I don't see how anyone in Internet Marketing succeeds (and keep their sanity) for long without praying at some point. I need and will take all the help I can get.
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Rory Singh

9 years ago

Praying is not going to do any good. Frustration is common. Patience is definitely a 'virtue' here. This is a process and it takes a lot of time to get things right (especially in your head).

IM is actually simple once you understand what to do and that you have to keep doing it 'consistently' everyday. But it's not easy.

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FajarSidiq

9 years ago

keep trial and error ...

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ZanyZebra

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

Hello,

At any point, as anyone gotten frustrated enough in IM that they started to pray for success?

I have begged to the IM Gods for six figures in my mind. lol

Hope is not a strategy.

Good luck with your future.

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PedroKing

9 years ago

You can achieve much more than that with persistence and dedication, you don't actually have to pray to "IM God"

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PHR

9 years ago

Hi there,

I believe in god.

But to be honest. It's just your skill and your knowledge which makes you successful or not...

Without ACTION => NO results
With ACTION => Eventually NO results OR A few results OR Big results

But whatever it is from the 3 parts of "With ACTION", one part you will get guaranteed:

EXPERIENCE!

That's one of the most important things in a business in general!

Try, Try, Try => Action, Action, Action

after that

=> You can pray

Just joking, pray whenever you want. But nothing comes from nothing!

Just my 2 cents...

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Peter

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elmo033057

9 years ago

If you think any type of marketing is easy, then you need to watch this video by Seth Godin.

Seth Godin on Failing Until You Succeed - YouTube

Remember, he's failed many more times than he's succeeded. That's the nature of business.

I hope this helps!

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Adrian112

9 years ago

I started Im when I was 15 and I tried 100+ methods in these 7 years.

Maybe 10 of them was great and I made great money with it.

You should try and try, never stop working!

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Bigpanda

9 years ago

If you want to be successful at Internet Marketing, persistence is your best friend. Do not accept failure, be persistent and take action and your dreams will catch up with you at some point, just stay the course and don't loose faith in yourself, as your fears are your only true enemy in Internet Marketing and they will make or break you.

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Randall Magwood

9 years ago

Well... the Bible does say "You have not because you ask not". So praying is a good first start! (To God though, not internet marketing gurus. They will make you broke after they charge you for their $997 traffic exchange system).

I feel like you have a problem that can't be solved in one "motivational" or "faint" post. You have problems that can't be solved in 1 hour. You should seriously consider hiring a marketing consultant who has a great track record in what you're trying to sell - or trying to do. Good luck.

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jmh777

9 years ago

Praying is nothing more than a waste of time, I would just focus up one what you are doing and keep working hard!

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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

I'm very sorry but I am retired and no longer listen to prayers. You're own your own.

Cheers. - Frank
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- Mark Singletary 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BigFrank
  
  I'm very sorry but I am retired and no longer listen to prayers. You're own your own.
  
  Cheers. - Frank
  
  Well that explains a lot lately.
  
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  BigFrank Banned 9 years ago
  
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  Well that explains a lot lately.
  
  Mark
  
  Sorry I haven't been around. I'm having too much fun hanging out with atheist billionaires.
  
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writeaway

9 years ago

Seems like you need to BELIEVE that what you're doing is POSSIBLE.

Failure only happens when you DOUBT what you're doing and you, deep down, believe you deserve to fail.

Look your limiting thoughts in the eye and ...

IMPOSE YOUR WILL ON THEM

Or you'll doom yourself to a life of regret.

The only person that can STOP you spells his/her name this way: Y-O-U

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Jack Gordon

9 years ago

If the gods favor you, doesn't that mean they must smite someone else?

Do you really want that on your conscience?

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writeaway 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Jack Gordon

If the gods favor you, doesn't that mean they must smite someone else?

Do you really want that on your conscience?

The 'gods' operate on a zero-sum game basis? Wouldn't it be better to enlarge the pie instead of having to rob Peter to pay Paul?
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ChrisBa

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

Hello,

At any point, as anyone gotten frustrated enough in IM that they started to pray for success?

I have begged to the IM Gods for six figures in my mind. lol

No, I don't see the correlation between praying and finding success, but that's just me (no offence to anyone)

I find the time better spent working towards success

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AhmedFouad96

9 years ago

I believe in God. All you have to do is (WORK + Pray).

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jordorules

9 years ago

Z, funny enough you ask this as I had a locksmith come to my house the other day and we got to talking and turns out he's a religious man (I'm not so much religious as spiritual).

He said he prays not only for the safety and well being of his family but also for God (whoever he/she/it is to you) to bring him more business and he says it works. I was initially shocked to hear this because you think of a religious man to only pray for the "important" things such as well being of family and self and so on.

He says to me "well more business is important! It feeds my family!". Point well taken. Anyway you and I got off on the wrong foot so allow me to extend the olive branch as Darrell Sheets on Storage Wars would say (Yep that quote is for you BigFrank) and kick my two cents and say that ABSOLUTELY pray but not only pray but pray with absolute conviction and belief that your prayers will be answered. In fact see them being answered. Visualize them being answered.

Good luck.

J

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jordorules

9 years ago

Haha I just read that BigFrank lol but if you where really God you'd be a Red Wings fan not a Rangers fan

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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by jordorules

Haha I just read that BigFrank lol but if you where really God you'd be a Red Wings fan not a Rangers fan

I remember the Red Wings when they were good. Back in the 80's. :-)

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  Originally Posted by BigFrank
  
  I remember the Red Wings when they were good. Back in the 80's. :-)
  
  Cheers. - Frank
  
  BigFrank I think you mean 90's. The 80's the Red Wings where terrible. That said we are the last team to win back to back Cups and dominate 23+ years making the playoffs. 10 Cups vs. 3 Cups.
  
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NeedBucksNow

9 years ago

I think praying is a good way to realize what your goals are and what you are truly looking to accomplish. Having the peace to write down your thoughts and the faith that you will connect with your audience is probably what is going to make the biggest impact on how successful you are able to become though. Simply praying for money or sales isn't going to make a difference as you get back what you give (over years) in my experience. Anyways, isn't the love of money the root of all evil anyways

Just playing around but I almost feel like you have to learn to love writing 1st

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OfficiallyVinnie

Banned 9 years ago

“The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.”

Maybe praying will change your mindset and making you work harder to reach your goal!~

Cheers,
Vinnie

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CarynDavis

Banned 9 years ago

That's funny and sad! Internet god! But seriously though, you can do it

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pietjeplukt

9 years ago

there is no such thing as failure!
only something called giving up!

you can "fail" only by giving up.... or by dying (and that's not really failing)

the most brilliant thing anyone can ever do to succeed, is to never give up

in my personal years long journey, everytime i "failed" at something (temporarely)
it only made me even more hungry for success, more detemined, and made me work harder and smarter every step of the way, while becoming wiser and more experienced along the way

watch these videos, they helped me alot when i was thinking about giving up sometimes (i am glad i never did!)

The Most Motivating Video for Success - YouTube

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agmccall

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

Hello,

At any point, as anyone gotten frustrated enough in IM that they started to pray for success?

I have begged to the IM Gods for six figures in my mind. lol

Is this a serious question??

al

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LesterRussell

9 years ago

Well, if you are a staunch believer of the IM Gods and praying to them gives you the strength to carry on, I actually think that would help.

But like everything else in life, if you don't give up, you will eventually get what you are striving for. Because there was no other option but to succeed.

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BigFrank

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by LesterRussell

But like everything else in life, if you don't give up, you will eventually get what you are striving for. Because there was no other option but to succeed.

Tell that load to someone currently living in a cardboard box. lol

Cheers. - Frank

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pietjeplukt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Tell that load to someone currently living in a cardboard box. lol

Cheers. - Frank

the only reason someone lives in a cardboard box is BECAUSE they have given up!

and still even from that position, focusing on a goal and refusing to give up, you can not help but succeed!

the only reason it is difficult to explain this to someone living in a cardboard box is because they are ignorant of this knowledge and have all kinds of destructive belief systems and views on life

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BigFrank

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by pietjeplukt

the only reason someone lives in a cardboard box is BECAUSE they have given up!

and still even from that position, focusing on a goal and refusing to give up, you can not help but succeed!

the only reason it is difficult to explain this to someone living in a cardboard box is because they are ignorant of this knowledge and have all kinds of destructive belief systems and views on life

How arrogant and presumptuous to claim to know what is taking place in another person' life and mind - and why?

There is a word in the real world for what you espouse; claptrap!

Cheers. - Frank

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LesterRussell

9 years ago

I'm sure everyone has their own circumstances where things can make it hard to progress.

In your ideal case of a homeless person living on the streets with a cardboard box over his head, the struggle to feed himself would have to come first beyond any goal that he has in life. But still, i have met people who have gone into severe debt (which technically would make them more poor than a homeless person) and worked their way back up to become millionaires.

They all shared the same belief of success coming to those to who persevere, work hard at what they want and not give up.

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BigFrank

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by LesterRussell

I'm sure everyone has their own circumstances where things can make it hard to progress.

Yes. We are all different. How about that? :-)

In your ideal case of a homeless person living on the streets with a cardboard box over his head, the struggle to feed himself would have to come first beyond any goal that he has in life.

As someone who has been homeless, twice in his life, I can tell you that you have no idea how right you are.

But still, i have met people who have gone into severe debt (which technically would make them more poor than a homeless person)

Only someone whom has never been homeless would say that or believe it.

and worked their way back up to become millionaires.

And some died, penniless.

They all shared the same belief of success coming to those to who persevere, work hard at what they want and not give up.

Even people that subscribe to that precept can die penniless. This is more of that, "If you just believe you can't fail, crap." People fail for many different reasons, regardless of what they believe.

Cheers. - Frank

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pietjeplukt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

How arrogant and presumptuous to claim to know what is taking place in another person' life and mind - and why?

There is a word in the real world for what you espouse; claptrap!

Cheers. - Frank

and what if the person has LIVED through this himself?
is it arrogant and presumptuos to say what you KNOW to be true, through experience?

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BigFrank

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by pietjeplukt

and what if the person has LIVED through this himself?
is it arrogant and presumptuos to say what you KNOW to be true, through experience?

What you know to be true from your own personal experience is only true TO YOU - and no one else. That's precisely what I meant by arrogance and presumptuousness. lol What takes place in your life means nothing to anyone else on the planet.

Cheers. - Frank

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pietjeplukt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

What you know to be true from your own personal experience is only true TO YOU - and no one else. That's precisely what I meant by arrogance and presumptuousness. lol What takes place in your life means nothing to anyone else on the planet.

Cheers. - Frank

KNOWING is different from believing
subjective truth is what we call belief
there IS something as objective TRUTH, whether humans know it or understand it or not.

and even subjectively, having been homeless, drug addicted and deeply in depth for years does give me the right to speak my mind about how to get out of such a situation, since i actually DID it, did you have to go through something like that in life?

and the only way to change anything, any situation in any way...
is through actions that come from correct KNOWLEDGE

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BigFrank

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by pietjeplukt

KNOWING is different from believing
subjective truth is what we call belief
there IS something as objective TRUTH, whether humans know it or understand it or not.

and even subjectively, having been homeless, drug addicted and deeply in depth for years does give me the right to speak my mind about how to get out of such a situation, since i actually DID it, did you have to go through something like that in life?

and the only way to change anything, any situation in any way...
is through actions that come from correct KNOWLEDGE

have a wonderful day!

You're funny. Let's see I have been homeless, twice, institutionalized 4 times, incarcerated twice, physically incapacitated off and on through life and think that I can speak to anything relating to those past events.

That said, I have learned through 50 years of therapy that the only truth in life is that which we believe to be our own truth.

My experiences have not shaped anyone's life but my own. I would never be foolish enough to think that I know what goes on in another person's mind and heart, based on my personal experiences.

Your truth is yours and yours alone. Find some humility in your life and keep it to yourself. It only applies to your life, going forward.

Just because I have managed to come back from the brink, as you have, has nothing to do with the ability any anyone else to do the same. We are all different. We all possess our own strengths and weaknesses, we all live different lives and have individual experiences as well as dealing with them in different ways. While two individuals may arrive at the same point in life, chances are high that they took very different paths to reach that destination.

Cheers. - Frank

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@tjr

9 years ago

Originally Posted by pietjeplukt

the only reason someone lives in a cardboard box is BECAUSE they have given up!

Then there are the children kicked out of their homes for their sexual orientations.

Then there are the veterans, suffering from PTSD, who have been left with no one and nothing because of their illness.

Then there are the mentally ill in general, left behind by a world that still isn't quite sure how to deal with them.

Then there are the mothers (and fathers, although less often) on the street with their children to escape domestic violence.

Look I'm not trying to pick on you, I'm really not. But if you're going to insist on saying ignorant things from thread to thread then I'm going to have to keep pointing it out. It's for your benefit and the benefit of others around you. Really.

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BigFrank

Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

Then there are the veterans, suffering from PTSD, who have been left with no one and nothing because of their illness.

"I have been homeless, twice, institutionalized 4 times, incarcerated twice," all because of the profoundly devastating effects of PTSD.

Cheers. - Frank

P.S. I did not mention the drug addiction or alcoholism, as I believe they are generally assumed to be in the mix. lol

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@tjr

9 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

"I have been homeless, twice, institutionalized 4 times, incarcerated twice," all because of the profoundly devastating effects of PTSD.

Cheers. - Frank

P.S. I did not mention the drug addiction or alcoholism, as I believe they are generally assumed to be in the mix. lol

I wish I had something more useful and profound to say than "I'm sorry that ever had to happen to you." I'm glad you've found a way past it.

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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

I wish I had something more useful and profound to say than "I'm sorry that ever had to happen to you." I'm glad you've found a way past it.

I appreciate that, but truth be told, I don't regret a single day of my life as those are the events that have shaped me into the person that I am today and I am blessed with a wonderful life. It was just a bumpy ride, getting here. :-)

Cheers. - Frank
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pietjeplukt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

Then there are the children kicked out of their homes for their sexual orientations.

Then there are the veterans, suffering from PTSD, who have been left with no one and nothing because of their illness.

Then there are the mentally ill in general, left behind by a world that still isn't quite sure how to deal with them.

Then there are the mothers (and fathers, although less often) on the street with their children to escape domestic violence.

and then there is knowledge that can help you overcome all these things, no matter how bad

i am glad you are standing up for the people in these positions, that is a noble thing, but i am not picking on you or anybody else here, just trying to inspire people and let them know that, where there is a will there is a way!

and to Big Frank, sounds like we have a lot in common, i am sorry you had to suffer in life, just like i and many others had to, but where you are now, is this due to knowledge and correct implication of this knowledge... or did you get back on your feet through dumb luck?

love and peace!

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@tjr

9 years ago

Originally Posted by pietjeplukt

and then there is knowledge that can help you overcome all these things, no matter how bad

Knowledge which isn't accessible to everyone. Frank pointed it out already, but it is impossible to assume/understand the situation of others. What seems like common knowledge, or the obvious right way to you or me is completely foreign to a lot of other people.

In an ideal world everyone would find their bootstraps and pull themselves up by them. This ain't an ideal world: many wouldn't know what a bootstrap is.

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Zodiax

9 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

Knowledge which isn't accessible to everyone. Frank pointed it out already, but it is impossible to assume/understand the situation of others. What seems like common knowledge, or the obvious right way to you or me is completely foreign to a lot of other people.

In an ideal world everyone would find their bootstraps and pull themselves up by them. This ain't an ideal world: many wouldn't know what a bootstrap is.

I think what he was trying to say was, your realism is interpreted as negativity and pessimism, hence the response.

Hopes this clears things up for you @tjr.

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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

I think what he was trying to say was, your realism is interpreted as negativity and pessimism, hence the response.

Hopes this clears things up for you @tjr.

Great. Now we're interpreting the words of others. Let's let everyone speak for themselves. It's bad enough that some of us believe that we have to think for others, but believing that we have to speak for them is a bit much. lol

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by pietjeplukt

the only reason someone lives in a cardboard box is BECAUSE they have given up!

and still even from that position, focusing on a goal and refusing to give up, you can not help but succeed!

the only reason it is difficult to explain this to someone living in a cardboard box is because they are ignorant of this knowledge and have all kinds of destructive belief systems and views on life

While I do believe mindset, beliefs, etc. play a significant role in many people's success, "having the right mindset" and / or "knowledge" as you presume, don't automatically guarantee success - especially when you're talking about individuals with chronic, serious mental health or physical health issues or a lower IQ.

Yes, some people do overcome incomprehensible challenges, but many don't for a whole host of reasons, some of which are completely outside their ability to control or influence.

Saying "you can't help but succeed" is presumptuous.

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Steve B

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Zodiax

I have begged to the IM Gods for six figures in my mind. lol

Your problem is simple. You are putting your faith in something that doesn't exist - "the IM Gods."

There is a real God. You just have to pray to Him then work hard like everything depended upon you.

Steve

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BigFrank Banned 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve B

I believe there is a real God. Steve

Fixed that for you.

Cheers. - Frank
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esmarshall

9 years ago

if your failing it means your on the right track to success
don't think you'll find too many success stories that didn't involve failure

hang in there man

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TexasSteve

9 years ago

Praying is the same thing as hoping. Hope doesn't put money into your bank account.

Take action and take action now. Pray before you go to bed.

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