Money Keywords 60,000 + searches a month! Very Low Competition!

[Mike Linley]

Hey everyone, so I was doing some keyword research for one of the niches I am in and I came across several keywords that have very high searches per month.

One with 60,500 searches and only 22,900 in competition (and rather weak sites too!) and a few other keywords that have 20,000-50,000 in searches per month... 2 word phrases.

Just wondering the best thing to do with these?

Thanks, Mike Linley

[Mike Linley]

only 7 views on my thread? I thought the title was going to get some attention...guess no one is interested in high traffic and low competition keywords!

[greenovni]

Because you haven't released them to us

[Vanquish]

Make sure its 60 000+ searches under exact because if you are using broad it can get confusing.

You can also use a tool by Microsoft called Commercial Intent to see if your keyword is worthwhile although it is not perfect it will give you a good indicator if your keyword is good or not.

Detecting Online Commercial Intention: Audience Intelligence: adCenter Labs


Also put yourslef in the consumers spot, if you searched for this keyword would you have an intention to buy anything?

[GuerrillaIM]

pay for adwords for a few days and find out.

[rondo]

So test it out. Write an article on your blog, promote something, get some backlinks and see what happens if and when the traffic comes.

[Mike Linley]

LOL!!! do I have "stupid" stamped on my forehead! NO!...not gonna happen..well how about for 100 bucks to anyone who pm's me...while signing a non disclosure!

Originally Posted by greenovni

Because you haven't released them to us

[Mike Linley]

Yes I used Micro Niche Finder to find the keywords and used Exact matches only..and it has a commercial intent but I dont trust it..thanks for the link to microsofts commercial intent tool..I will check it out

Originally Posted by Vanquish

Make sure its 60 000+ searches under exact because if you are using broad it can get confusing.

You can also use a tool by Microsoft called Commercial Intent to see if your keyword is worthwhile although it is not perfect it will give you a good indicator if your keyword is good or not.

Detecting Online Commercial Intention: Audience Intelligence: adCenter Labs


Also put yourslef in the consumers spot, if you searched for this keyword would you have an intention to buy anything?

[Mike Linley]

Now that is just some bad advice!..I dont do adwords...way to risky!..waste money to test traffic?..I dont know if you noticed but there is very little traffic to my keywords so it wont take many backlinks or a Ezine article to rank very high if not number one in google...FOR FREE!

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

pay for adwords for a few days and find out.

[AaronJones]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

Hey everyone, so I was doing some keyword research for one of the niches I am in and I came across several keywords that have very high searches per month.

One with 60,500 searches and only 22,900 in competition (and rather weak sites too!) and a few other keywords that have 20,000-50,000 in searches per month... 2 word phrases.

I am not sure about the commercial intent..that may be the problem... that no one looking for these keywords buys anything...anyone have any suggestions on what to do?

Thanks, Mike Linley

Use this to check the demographics. Demographics Prediction: Audience Intelligence: adCenter Labs Then you can tell the age and sex of your audience. That can help you figure out some appropriate offers to test.

Aaron

[Jeremy Kelsall]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

Now that is just some bad advice!..I dont do adwords...way to risky!..waste money to test traffic?..I dont know if you noticed but there is very little traffic to my keywords so it wont take many backlinks or a Ezine article to rank very high if not number one in google...FOR FREE!

Actually Mike, It's pretty good advice...

Your not sure if the keywords are good, right?

So, you have 2 choices:

1. Spend a couple days to a week trying to rank in the serps for the keywords to see if they are good.

2. Spend $30 on adwords for 100 or so clicks to see if they convert

A week of your time or $30....I know which one I would pick

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

Now that is just some bad advice!..I dont do adwords...way to risky!..waste money to test traffic?..I dont know if you noticed but there is very little traffic to my keywords so it wont take many backlinks or a Ezine article to rank very high if not number one in google...FOR FREE!

I value my time optimising more than a test run on PPC to see if it's worth while. Some competed keywords can be 6 months of hard work to get. Better to find out if it converts before you go to all that work.

If it is uncompeted then you should be on first page in a couple of weeks for very little work. Why come here and ask advice if the keyword will make sales and then not show the keyword? What do you hope to achieve by making a post like this?

[LegitBlogger]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

Hey everyone, so I was doing some keyword research for one of the niches I am in and I came across several keywords that have very high searches per month.

One with 60,500 searches and only 22,900 in competition (and rather weak sites too!) and a few other keywords that have 20,000-50,000 in searches per month... 2 word phrases.

I am not sure about the commercial intent..that may be the problem... that no one looking for these keywords buys anything...anyone have any suggestions on what to do?

Thanks, Mike Linley

I don't pay too much attention to the so-called "commercial"
intent. Lots of searches and low competition is good enough
for me. If there are lots of searches and low competition
I can always find what and how to monetize the traffic,
so far as the niche is a good and profitable one. Even if
the niche isn't profitable, lots of us ALWAYS know what to
do with lots of traffic,

.

[Mike Linley]

Well Guerrilla I dont want to waste a few weeks ranking for the keywords if they wont convert into sales..that is why I came here asking for advice so I dont waste my time. thanks, Mike Linley

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

I value my time optimising more than a test run on PPC to see if it's worth while. Some competed keywords can be 6 months of hard work to get. Better to find out if it converts before you go to all that work.

If it is uncompeted then you should be on first page in a couple of weeks for very little work. Why come here and ask advice if the keyword will make sales and then not show the keyword? What do you hope to achieve by making a post like this?

[Mike Linley]

Thanks Jeremy...I will consider it...money is a little bit tight right now so even 30 bucks to test is not the best option for me...I have about 5 or 6 of these keywords I coudl test..so that is 150-180 bucks!...if I was making more money..sure...but not yet...thanks though buddy..always appreciate advice from a respected warrior! love your bootcamps! Mike Linley

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Actually Mike, It's pretty good advice...

Your not sure if the keywords are good, right?

So, you have 2 choices:

1. Spend a couple days to a week trying to rank in the serps for the keywords to see if they are good.

2. Spend $30 on adwords for 100 or so clicks to see if they convert

A week of your time or $30....I know which one I would pick

[rondo]

If the keywords are low competition it shouldn't take weeks to rank in the serps. Give it a try, it may only take you a day or 2.

[jan roos]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

Now that is just some bad advice!..I dont do adwords...way to risky!..waste money to test traffic?..I dont know if you noticed but there is very little traffic to my keywords so it wont take many backlinks or a Ezine article to rank very high if not number one in google...FOR FREE!

I see you are in Paso, I live in Arroyo Grande. Good to see a fellow Central Coaster here.

Cheers

[Zeus66]

You can easily overthink this stuff. Get the page ranked high, throw AdSense blocks on it, and see what happens. If the ad clicks are paying crap, that's a better indicator than what MNF's CI tells you (or MS's tool). I have a niche site getting about 1,500 unique visitors per day from a keyword that gets nearly 1 million monthly searches, and the Adsense payout is ridiculously low. It still makes like $25/day, but it takes an ungodly number of clicks to get there. I just can't for the life of me figure out how to monetize this niche any better. So I will sympathize completely if you end up in the same boat.

John

[Jason_V]

I'd say the easiest solution is to make your own guide on the subject and sell it. Why settle for $25 from tons of clicks when you could make a little 10-15 page guide and sell it for $7, beef it up some and you could sell it for $17-$27. Beef it up in terms of content, not fluff of course.

Or, of course collect names and emails and promote products related to the information. Even if it's tough to monetize the niche itself if you collect names and emails you can always promote general CPA offers. Weight loss, white teeth, attract the opposite sex, dog training, etc...

Originally Posted by Zeus66

You can easily overthink this stuff. Get the page ranked high, throw AdSense blocks on it, and see what happens. If the ad clicks are paying crap, that's a better indicator than what MNF's CI tells you (or MS's tool). I have a niche site getting about 1,500 unique visitors per day from a keyword that gets nearly 1 million monthly searches, and the Adsense payout is ridiculously low. It still makes like $25/day, but it takes an ungodly number of clicks to get there. I just can't for the life of me figure out how to monetize this niche any better. So I will sympathize completely if you end up in the same boat.

John

[Black Hat Cat]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

Now that is just some bad advice!..I dont do adwords...way to risky!..waste money to test traffic?..I dont know if you noticed but there is very little traffic to my keywords so it wont take many backlinks or a Ezine article to rank very high if not number one in google...FOR FREE!

You're kidding, right? So you'd rather waste time to test traffic? Your time must not be worth very much, especially if you put a value of free(zero) on it. You could waste a week or more to find out the niche sucks doing it your way versus one day and $10 with adwords. Heck, you might even make some money. That is the object, right...to make money?

Edit:

money is a little bit tight right now so even 30 bucks to test is not the best option for me

Ok, well that's different. You not having money doesn't make it bad advice, or wasting money. It's called running a business. Either you're in it for real or you aren't.

Are there any adsense ads running for these keywords? If so, it's likely because people are buying whatever it is the keyword is about. It's not a guarantee, but it's a good sign.

Lastly, you might want to research your keywords a little. Just because they have low traffic, as you call it, doesn't mean they aren't competitive.

[Rory Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by Vanquish

Make sure its 60 000+ searches under exact because if you are using broad it can get confusing.

You can also use a tool by Microsoft called Commercial Intent to see if your keyword is worthwhile although it is not perfect it will give you a good indicator if your keyword is good or not.

Detecting Online Commercial Intention: Audience Intelligence: adCenter Labs


Also put yourslef in the consumers spot, if you searched for this keyword would you have an intention to buy anything?

Hi Mike,

Yeah make sure that the keywords get that volume with EXACT search not broad. There can be a huge difference. Also look to see if anyone is paying for ads. If there is no ads then it's likely its not profitable. Run a PPC campaign and test it out before spending hours on an SEO campaign.

Hope this helps

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

Well Guerrilla I dont want to waste a few weeks ranking for the keywords if they wont convert into sales..that is why I came here asking for advice so I dont waste my time. thanks, Mike Linley

It wouldn't be 2 weeks work. You would just have to do a few hours work then wait a couple of weeks for it to show up.

Your question cannot be answered by us. You are saying that you have this great and *secret* keyword. Then you ask us if it will make sales? How the hell are we supposed to know or even guess at it if you don't tell us what it is?

If it is something that someone in buy mode would type in then you will get the best conversions. If its just a keyword a certain demographic would type in then you will need to do some list building by offering some sort of incentive like a free report to sign up.

The only way you will truly know if it makes sales in a short space of time is to make a PPC advert for it.

Sorry you don't like the advice, but I don't really see what you want people to say.

[Mike Linley]

LOL Guerrilla really seems to be upset that I wont reveal any of my keywords!..still not biting! :P and I have gotten lots of good advice from fellow warriors..they have given me exactly what I was looking for..tips..things I can try...my questions were answered fully...seems you have no answers for me though..but thanks to everyone else who has contributed to this thread..I really do appreciate it and will try a few things and let you guys know how it goes...thanks! -Mike Linley

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

It wouldn't be 2 weeks work. You would just have to do a few hours work then wait a couple of weeks for it to show up.

Your question cannot be answered by us. You are saying that you have this great and *secret* keyword. Then you ask us if it will make sales? How the hell are we supposed to know or even guess at it if you don't tell us what it is?

If it is something that someone in buy mode would type in then you will get the best conversions. If its just a keyword a certain demographic would type in then you will need to do some list building by offering some sort of incentive like a free report to sign up.

The only way you will truly know if it makes sales in a short space of time is to make a PPC advert for it.

Sorry you don't like the advice, but I don't really see what you want people to say.

[bgmacaw]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

I am not sure about the commercial intent..that may be the problem... that no one looking for these keywords buys anything...anyone have any suggestions on what to do?

It's really pretty simple. Are they buying keywords, keywords that someone who's looking to buy the product or service in question is likely to use. Or are they informational, like student writing a term paper would use. For example, 'history of golf clubs', informational; "cheap golf clubs", buying. Another good indicator of an informational keyword is if sites like Wikipedia and About rank well for the term. Higher Adwords pricing sometimes, but not always, indicates a better buying keyword.

But, don't worry over it too much, especially if you're building a lot of sites. Build it and move on. If it doesn't work, you can modify it more in a buying direction later on through building links with a better keyword and adding new and changing existing content.

[Robyn8243]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

LOL Guerrilla really seems to be upset that I wont reveal any of my keywords!..still not biting! :P and I have gotten lots of good advice from fellow warriors..they have given me exactly what I was looking for..tips..things I can try...my questions were answered fully...seems you have no answers for me though..but thanks to everyone else who has contributed to this thread..I really do appreciate it and will try a few things and let you guys know how it goes...thanks! -Mike Linley

I doubt Guerrilla could care less about you revealing your keywords. With the limited information you provided....you discovered a keyword with high search and low competition...(Not exactly a reason to stop the presses) you want people to speculate on whether there is profit potential and how you can best answer that question.

He gave you very wise advice (how was he supposed to know that you have no money) and instead of appreciation your responses to him have been totally rude.

Frankly I don't know why anyone should want to help you with that kind of attitude.

Robyn

[GuerrillaIM]

Originally Posted by mikelinley

LOL Guerrilla really seems to be upset that I wont reveal any of my keywords!..still not biting! :P and I have gotten lots of good advice from fellow warriors..they have given me exactly what I was looking for..tips..things I can try...my questions were answered fully...seems you have no answers for me though..but thanks to everyone else who has contributed to this thread..I really do appreciate it and will try a few things and let you guys know how it goes...thanks! -Mike Linley

I'm not upset at all. You seem to think your onto a winner here already so go for it and see if it works.

I just thought it strange to make a thread asking if a keyword would make a sale when no one knows what keyword it is. It could be a celebrity name, tv show, product name, verb, noun etc...

I wish you good luck and hope you make sales with your keyword.

PS One last piece of "bad advice" - the number of competing sites doesn't have anything to do with how easy it is to rank on a keyword but you will eventually figure that out for yourself with a little more learning and research.

[ramone_johnny]

Originally Posted by Zeus66

I just can't for the life of me figure out how to monetize this niche any better.

Must be an obscure topic!

[Mike Linley]

LOL...I do know what I am doing as far as keyword research Guerrilla...the number of competing sites does not matter if the top sites are well optimized and have tons of backlinks pointing towards them..it wont matter if there are only ten competing sites if they are all well optimized..I know what I am looking for in my competitors hence the comment my competition is weak...therefore I did do my research and check them out first!

and Robyn that is exactly why I dont appreciate Guerrilla coming into a thread where he does not want to contribute and just ridicule me...he could have very easily said you should check out your competition by looking at how they are optimized and backlinks but no he would rather say you'll figure it all out later!..great help..yea I should thank him for his wonderful advice and tips..I will eventually figure it all out!..he is just one of our many beloved Trolls here in the forum who just wants to wander around and ridicule other while not contributing any value to the forum..that is fine..you reap what you sow..and Robyn I have thanked everyone else because I do appreciate their advice..and that is why others have jumped in and offered more advice...read the whole thread! thanks again to everyone who contributed...great advice!

Oh and I also handed out thanks to everyone who contributed Robyn.

Originally Posted by GuerrillaIM

I'm not upset at all. You seem to think your onto a winner here already so go for it and see if it works.

I just thought it strange to make a thread asking if a keyword would make a sale when no one knows what keyword it is. It could be a celebrity name, tv show, product name, verb, noun etc...

I wish you good luck and hope you make sales with your keyword.

PS One last piece of "bad advice" - the number of competing sites doesn't have anything to do with how easy it is to rank on a keyword but you will eventually figure that out for yourself with a little more learning and research.

[GuerrillaIM]

It would be easy to take that personally if it was true. I do my best to help people here, if you don't agree then you are entitled to your opinion. People can read this thread and make their own judgement of my intentions.

[parker3773]

Sounds to me like a sales pitch. $100 for the first to PM? Maybe he doesn't want advice. Maybe he's looking to bank?

But hey, I could be wrong. Don't pitch the pitchmen, right? If you know how to research competitive keywords, I bet you know what to do with them once you find them. That's all I'm sayin' about that.

[Mike Linley]

LoL..no pitch!..if I wanted to make money off of these keywords I would have launched a WSO...make a lot more than 100 bucks that is for sure!..but this is my niche and my keywords..I dont think I would have paid anyone 100 bucks..too risky even with a disclosure agreement..I want these all to myself..I know I can make money with these keywords..just going to have to test some things to figure out what works best. Mike Linley

Originally Posted by parker3773

Sounds to me like a sales pitch. $100 for the first to PM? Maybe he doesn't want advice. Maybe he's looking to bank?

But hey, I could be wrong. Don't pitch the pitchmen, right? If you know how to research competitive keywords, I bet you know what to do with them once you find them. That's all I'm sayin' about that.