marketing in a very specific field; Business intelligence tool for Microsoft Dynamics.

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Hi,

Iam working on marketing Business intelligence tool for Microsoft Dynamics NAV (Navision).
Iam working on SEO, content marketing, forums, blogs ...
In comparison with other simular tools on the market my product is much more affordable, very good and simple to use.
The problem is that results are not as good as i hoped for, how do i get more recognition?
Is there a different way in marketing very specific products ?

Thank you,

Bili
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    This is interesting.

    The obvious choice is PPC, and given the type of product, your best bet is AdWords. You can look into Bing Ads, but given their user-demographics, AdWords is the better option.

    If you lack experience in PPC, then your fallback choice should be those already mentioned:

    - Socials
    - Forums (sig, ad space)
    - Blogs (ad space)

    Setup pages, groups, communities, accounts. Grow them. Feed them with blog content. Encourage opt-ins with that blog content.

    Now your audience is harder to find on the above locations when compared to markets like gaming, fashion, health. You should still work the socials, but don't forget video marketing.

    The beauty of video marketing is the ability not merely to go viral within Youtube by taking videos of our cats pretending to be ninjas. The real beauty is this: with a little practice, you can outrank long-standing websites in Google, Yahoo, and Bing. You can reach people searching to make a relevant purchase.

    If you remember EZA marketing a million years ago, a lot of chaps and chapesses would rank in minutes or hours for long-tails - usually desperate buying keywords. EZA is a Dodo Bird. Videos - they're not. You can do exactly the same thing.

    I could probably talk all day. Your product sparked my interest. Just some ideas, anyway. Best of luck!

    - Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author Bili Piton
      Hi Tom

      Iam very appreciated on your reply. The obvious choice would offcourse be PPC, but the marketing budget is filled till the end of the year, so i will probably start with ppc next year ...
      and it's still risky if the money you invested, still doesnt brings results, but i guess thats life , you have to take chances.
      What i forgot to mention earlier, is that our product also involves mobile app. It is native mobile application for pivot, filtering, data-mining...in the field of business
      intelligence (BI) tools.
      Do you think i should enforce the mobile app first and if so do i market it as mobile app or complete solution that it is ?

      Hope you understaned me ok. Thanks for your time and kindness

      Bili
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    • Profile picture of the author mungrey
      Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

      This is interesting.

      The obvious choice is PPC, and given the type of product, your best bet is AdWords. You can look into Bing Ads, but given their user-demographics, AdWords is the better option.
      Why not Bing ads, or for that matter any other PPC platform? Just curious
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Hi Bili,

    Without knowing enough about the market as yet, the best advice I can offer is something that I consider standard practice for me whenever entering a new market. Reverse engineer the competition. Too many marketers take action without first putting together a plan. Almost as many marketers, who at least do lay down a plan, do so without the correct approach to research. They apply marketing principles alone to the development of their plan.

    Think of it like writing a novel. Do you go to college and major in English, with a heady mixture of novel-writing courses? Or do you also read, read, read? By reading you go beyond the principles laid out by tired and dusty old lecturers. You read novels within the genre that you envision being published yourself. And you read whatever is available. You become glutinous. Your appetite, insatiable. Because this is what it takes to compete. You consciously and often unconsciously take the good elements to use yourself, often writing them down, just like a marketer would - or should - a plan.

    In short: isolate your competition, take apart their business, make note of the good elements, use this information to formulate your own suspected good elements, and put all of that information, combined with marketing principles, into a rock solid plan. When I enter a new market, this is what I do. Not to sound overly enthusiastic and remove myself from the "cool kids" clique, but business is war. To win, you need to acquire a taste for blood.

    - Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author mungrey
      Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

      Hi Bili,

      Without knowing enough about the market as yet, the best advice I can offer is something that I consider standard practice for me whenever entering a new market. Reverse engineer the competition. Too many marketers take action without first putting together a plan. Almost as many marketers, who at least do lay down a plan, do so without the correct approach to research. They apply marketing principles alone to the development of their plan.

      Think of it like writing a novel. Do you go to college and major in English, with a heady mixture of novel-writing courses? Or do you also read, read, read? By reading you go beyond the principles laid out by tired and dusty old lecturers. You read novels within the genre that you envision being published yourself. And you read whatever is available. You become glutinous. Your appetite, insatiable. Because this is what it takes to compete. You consciously and often unconsciously take the good elements to use yourself, often writing them down, just like a marketer would - or should - a plan.

      In short: isolate your competition, take apart their business, make note of the good elements, use this information to formulate your own suspected good elements, and put all of that information, combined with marketing principles, into a rock solid plan. When I enter a new market, this is what I do. Not to sound overly enthusiastic and remove myself from the "cool kids" clique, but business is war. To win, you need to acquire a taste for blood.

      - Tom
      That is some solid advice there folks, especially the novel writing part.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    Bring a Spoon. You'll Need It.

    Tom,

    This is off topic, but I love your byline!

    How much quicker this IM adventure would play out for many here, if only they ingested everything instead of letting most of it slip through the tines of a fork.

    How often have the members here gotten the answer they needed and failed to recognize it?

    Maybe the old phrase "read between the lines" should be rephrased to say "read between the tines".
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    • Profile picture of the author mungrey
      Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

      Bring a Spoon. You'll Need It.

      Tom,

      This is off topic, but I love your byline!

      How much quicker this IM adventure would play out for many here, if only they ingested everything instead of letting most of it slip through the tines of a fork.

      How often have the members here gotten the answer they needed and failed to recognize it?

      Maybe the old phrase "read between the lines" should be rephrased to say "read between the tines".
      Not to hijack this thread but are you the creator of the famous rapid action profits software?
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      • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
        Originally Posted by mungrey View Post

        Not to hijack this thread but are you the creator of the famous rapid action profits software?
        The guy on that sales page does bear a marked resemblance... doesn't he?
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        • Profile picture of the author Bili Piton
          Thank you guys for all your suggestions and help.I guess nothing real good, comes easily or fast in the long run .Will inform you about my progress and if you're advices helped and how . If you come with some more suggestion please send me private message or just post below.

          Thanks again, best regards

          Bili
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    Bili,

    Good input from Tom, but I thought of one more potential way to "get the word out".

    Since you're already working on a mobile app, why not make it available as a "freebie", with appropriate advertising for your primary product embedded in the app.

    I think you'll find much less competition in the Google App Store for your niche, and if it is a good (useful) app for the right market segment, it has a lot of potential as a "loss leader". Any traffic it drives to your main product offer would be very targeted - maybe even pre-sold.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Thanks, Sid! And I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of information consumption. Great phrasing, too. You bring up "read between the tines" and this resonates a great deal with me. A few months back I remember exchanging a few private messages with a nice chap on here, and considerably higher up on the food chain than me. As I was reading his latest message, a portion of a sentence stood out to me, very nearly highlighted in fact, although it was my imagination doing the highlighting. He had no idea I suspect, but he'd just dropped an information bomb, or at least part of it, with only a little thought required from me to connect the dots and therefore form a fuse. Had I missed it, I would have missed out, which certainly highlights for me the importance of your insights.

    Bili, not wishing to sound like part of a mutual appreciation society, but Sid's second post above is a cracking one I think. In a different market entirely, I've worked on something similar. In that market, especially, it's the way to go. I'd give it serious consideration.

    Cheers - Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Hi Bill
    I would look up the Surestep portal on the Partner website for Microsoft and you will find some resources there, also try Linkedin for some research you may find some clients just don't spam
    RW
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