If I knew then what I know now - let's help the newbies

[DeePower]

Two years ago when I started IM I made a ton of mistakes. I thought if I shared those mistakes that it would help others avoid making the same blunder. And maybe other warriors could jump in here and share.

Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made was not realizing what a huge impact the right keywords had on my success. Not only did I not choose the keywords carefully I didn't use them for their full effectiveness.

For example I'd slap any ole name as the name of the page as long as it was marginally related to the topic. Not a good idea. Use the keyword phrase as the name of the page and the file.

I didn't check to see what AdWords paid for the keyword phrase. That affected my AdSense revenues.

For example *eliminate bad credit* only gets 170 global searches and has a cpc of 5 cents. *repair bad credit* gets 12,000 searches a month and has a cpc of $6.46

That one word change from eliminate to repair makes a big difference in your ADSense revenues and has more people searching for it.

Dee

[xwishmasterx]

Originally Posted by JamesGEvans

Hi Dee,


One tip: do not expect to make millions in 1 day, 1 month or year, there is a learning curve and a lot of problems to deal with...

James

True James, your earnings are closely connected to your knowlegde. The more you learn the more you earn (and it rimes...oh man)

[Laura B]

...I would not spend so much time researching and so little time DOING.

[Punkaj Dube]

I would avoid information overload and take action ASAP.

[WritingMadwoman]

Dee, great idea for a thread!

I would have spent less time chasing the money and more time finding ways to provide value and give people what they're already looking for. Once I really "got that" the money started flowing a lot easier.

Wendy

[bethrobinson]

I wouldn't buy anything over $100 unless I was sure I could use it NOW. Not that I might have time for it or it could be useful later. NOW.

[garyv]

You should also be very persistent. The key to online success - is failure. You've got to be ready to fail, and then move on. Then when you finally hit on a success, you'll have something to build on. But don't be afraid to fail. The most successful people in the IM business are also some of the biggest failures. The only difference between a complete failure, and a successful IMer is the IMer knows how to fail and keep going.

Now I feel like breaking into a Kenny Rogers tune... "You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, and know when to run!"

[Ashley Wright]

Making mistakes is what makes us who we are! and personally I am glad that I made them when I was starting off than now when I am going very well within Internet Marketing! One main thing that I have learnt is never give up! and I teach that to all my sponsors now that even when the going gets tough, theres a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow!

[Rob Anderson]

Originally Posted by Punkaj Dube

I would avoid information overload and take action ASAP.

EXACTLY.

however no matter how many times you tell people they still do it.
i did. but now i have written a small book about that exact topic.

kinda got it off my chest.

phew,

now on to real work.

rob

[WritingMadwoman]

Wow, so very true Gary. Great advice!

Wendy

Originally Posted by garyv

You should also be very persistent. The key to online success - is failure. You've got to be ready to fail, and then move on. Then when you finally hit on a success, you'll have something to build on. But don't be afraid to fail. The most successful people in the IM business are also some of the biggest failures. The only difference between a complete failure, and a successful IMer is the IMer knows how to fail and keep going.

Now I feel like breaking into a Kenny Rogers tune... "You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, and know when to run!"

[Debbie Allen]

I think that in the beginning I thought I was the only one that didn't find immediate success with Internet Marketing. Luckily I was willing to hang in there for as long as it took: I really didn't have much of a choice because I had decided this was my long-term career and I was determined to make it work. But I remember wondering over and over why "I" was the one among the thousands of Internet Marketers that was taking so long to make money.

I think that feeling had a lot to do with me trying various things and sometimes losing my focus. I was in pursuit of succeeding like everyone was. I often lost sight of my ultimate goals and instead, I thought only about making money.

Much later I realized that only a few people are able to find success within the first six months or even the first year of Internet Marketing. Probably even more important was the realization that each of us has to find what works for us. I know we can all use any given technique, but when we match our methods to our interests, personality, and our existing skills, our job is much easier. When that is coupled with a passion for offering something that is needed it seems success comes almost without effort.

[egaeb]

Originally Posted by Laura B

...I would not spend so much time researching and so little time DOING.

I don't know whether or not I could be considered a newbie but I definitely get stuck on this.

[Frank Donovan]

Some tips I'd give anyone just starting out (from my experience) would include:

1) Perfectionism is your enemy. Several years ago a very wise and very rich person advised me that a perfectionist was someone lacking either self confidence or self esteem and that made me look at my business in a different light. Striving for perfection is just another displacement activity we force upon ourselves to avoid or delay taking the action we know we should.

In most cases, especially at the beginning of our ventures, good enough is probably good enough.

I remember some of the products put out by the current big names in internet marketing early in their careers and cringe. [Of course, some of their later offerings are still pretty cringeworthy, but at least they now look more professional ]

The point is, just get something done; whether it's a website, blog, product, squeeze page, whatever. You'll quickly improve with experience.

2) Trust yourself. Only you are responsible for your success. So many people look to others to provide them with the key to their own riches. That's an employee mentality and will only serve to keep you working for someone else.

Running your own business is about having the self confidence to make decisions for yourself and seeing them through. By all means, listen to and learn from those more experienced and successful in your field, but don't follow blindly - remember that what they're describing is what works for them; it may or may not apply to your situation.

3) Stop buying stuff. Successful internet marketers buy tools or software that either directly add to their profits or that automate facets of their business, thus improving their efficiency and reducing their workload. They're not product launch junkies desperate for their next fix.

Decide on a business model that's right for you and then only be tempted to buy products that you're sure will be of benefit to that business. Otherwise, it's just too easy to get sidetracked.


Oh, and the biggest lesson of all - if you ain't enjoying it, it ain't worth it.



Frank

[Ian Jackson]

Yes, more often than not I seem to be crawling through thick treacle. Even after after 3 years IM (part time, from scratch) my investment in IM is still not paying off (ROI still zero). But the info I've learned/collected - wow!

I've done all the method-hopping stuff, and finally settled on article marketing -- list building, I do need to get a more exposure though. Even having had a top mentor for a few months, I found I still had to develop my technique, which when IM budget runs out is both good and bad. I feel I'm pretty good at writing now, so that's where my main focus is.

Even so, It's still hard to maintain a focus ON ONE THING, particularly when those "gurus" keep posting good ideas/methods on the forum and presenting opportunities that seem like they could give me just a little quick "booster" income .

Sometimes I could weep in frustration, but there's no way I'm stopping now, no way.

[Searchlabmedia]

I think that is exactly my problem right now as a newbie

[Keith Kogane]

Be an "editor" in a niche and not an "author". You can become an authority and thought leader in any niche you want simply by collecting and organizing the information that the niche produces. You don't have to strive to be a unique and original voice. You don't have to be excellent - you just have to be comprehensive.

Also, the best idea in the world is worth nothing at all until it's manifested in the real world. The most perfect and complete internet marketing education has ZERO value. The only thing that is rewarded in this industry is ACTION. Action gets results. Results can be measured. That which can be measured can be improved. Etc, etc.

The key is to stop thinking so much and start building pages, making offers, and splitting your time beteween doing that more and more, and improving the ones you've already got.

[DeePower]

So ah, Keith, what was the mistake you made?

Dee

[CDarklock]

This isn't specific to IM, it's what I borked up in my offline consulting business.

If it's not growing, it's dying. Always look for more clients. Always. Never stop. Make it an integral part of your business.

Don't get lost in the trenches. Don't spend so much time working IN your business, that you can't work ON your business. This relates to the above. Check in with your employees, with your clients, with the status of projects.

Bad news gets worse the longer you wait. If you think you might miss a deadline, go to the client NOW! If you think you might have a supply problem, go tell your customers NOW! Right now! Don't wait! The sooner you tell them, the more likely it is that you can turn "maybe we can't do it" into "yes, we can do it" - and that HELPS more than "we tried everything and can't do it" hurts. If you don't tell anyone there's a problem, you don't get any credit for fixing it. Blame is easy to get, but credit is hard.

Outsource liberally. Never do anything yourself when someone else will do it for $10 an hour. I picked up this fantastic piece of advice from Don Lapre (along with many others that are just as useful), and it made a huge difference - but you have to apply it properly; don't just sit on your arse while someone else does the work, use the time to do other work that you can actually bill to a client. The worst possible thing you can do is hover over a temp's shoulder making sure he does things "right." It's $10 an hour. Let him do it, and go concentrate on something else. Don't hire a $10-an-hour temp and allocate a $135-an-hour consultant to the job.

Finally, make decisions quickly. There's a very simple process to making decisions. If you have several things you could do, and you don't know which one to choose, start by throwing out all the ones that are obviously wrong. The reason you can't choose among the rest is that you don't have enough information. When you can't get more information, or you don't have time to get it, or the information is too expensive - stop. Everything that hasn't turned out to be wrong at this point is equally good, to the best of your knowledge. You can pick one at random and have an equal chance of success as far as you know. If you turn out to have made the wrong decision, there is no way you could have known, and you should have no regrets.

[cashcow]

Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made was not realizing what a huge impact the right keywords had on my success. Not only did I not choose the keywords carefully I didn't use them for their full effectiveness.

This was my biggest mistake too. At one point I didn't even research keywords at all (I think I had read somewhere that it was better to just write good stuff and not worry about the keywords and the money would come......it didn't...)

Lee

[Shana_Adam]

• I would stop making everything soooo complicated
• Stop being a perfectionist - must have ocd
• take Action like NOW - not tomorrow
• Not collect every self help and every IM ebook - 90% of it is useless - just clogs up your hard drive
• I would not be as lazy
• Not taking the KW Research bit seriously - and also making the KW research so so complicated.
• Follow one Business model - its hard to be a jack of all trades

[kayelex]

The two biggest things are taking action and making sure there is a way to test and track what you are doing. Taking action is obvious, but so many people over look the testing phase.

Its easy to tell if a campaign is failing because your wallet is growing. But, without testing you won't know WHY it failed so you don't repeat the mistake or maybe even turn the loser into a winner. But, on the other end of the scale, testing and tracking is important for winners too. With the right data, you may be able to turn that $50 a day campaign into a $100 a day campaign, or $500 a day campaign.

[FlashDriveDT]

Use twitter only AFTER you reached your financial goal.

And like Dee said, don't just assume the viability of your keywords - CHECK them. Use the Google AdWords keyword tool.

[Keith Kogane]

Originally Posted by DeePower

So ah, Keith, what was the mistake you made?

Dee

The mistake I meant to point out was in the way I was thinking about how I presented myself in niches I was pursuing before I figured out to be an "editor" and not an "author" - like many others, I would get too personally attached to the quality of everything instead of just being free to put it out there.

I would get paralyzed by fretting over what to say next that could possibly be of interest to ANYONE much less people looking at my website, this MONUMENT to all my hard work. I was WAY overthinking it. All of it.

It kept me working on a singular, unsuccessful, and low-potential angle for far too long, and by "working" I mean "thinking about endlessly and not actually doing anything". The way to overcome it was what I detailed in my earlier post.

Sorry if I stated it in a very roundabout sort of way. The mistake is in not just trusting that I already knew what needed to be done and all that I needed to do was DO it, ANY of it, and actually begin building something instead of thinking about it and researching it all the time.

[beninewie]

One of my biggest mistakes (one that I still struggle with sometimes) is being consistant in my efforts.

When starting out it's easy to have one day where you go nuts and put in hours of work, then lose all motivation and 3 weeks later come back and do a bit more, lose motivation, a month later come back do a bit more and on and on.

What I found was the more consistant I was, ie. just doing a little but doing it every day, I saw results much quicker than if I just did things in fits and spurts.

Cheers,
Ben

[Allen Graves]

GET TO THE MONEY!

In other words, never EVER stop a money making project in order to start a new project or research something else. I did this so much early on and could have been successful much sooner had I simply done one thing at a time...the thing that would make the money!

It's a business, not a hobby.

Allen

[itcoll]

Originally Posted by beninewie

One of my biggest mistakes (one that I still struggle with sometimes) is being consistant in my efforts.

When starting out it's easy to have one day where you go nuts and put in hours of work, then lose all motivation and 3 weeks later come back and do a bit more, lose motivation, a month later come back do a bit more and on and on.

What I found was the more consistant I was, ie. just doing a little but doing it every day, I saw results much quicker than if I just did things in fits and spurts.

Cheers,
Ben

Yes Ben.I agree - some times i work for 15 hours and some times i just sit before my PC and do NOTHING !! And that seems busy but i dont do any work at all.We must not be busy but productive - just sitting before PC and checking adsense stats every now and then - its gonna do nothing.

[Easy Cash]

Originally Posted by DeePower

Two years ago when I started IM I made a ton of mistakes. I thought if I shared those mistakes that it would help others avoid making the same blunder. And maybe other warriors could jump in here and share.

Probably one of the biggest mistakes I made was not realizing what a huge impact the right keywords had on my success. Not only did I not choose the keywords carefully I didn't use them for their full effectiveness.

For example I'd slap any ole name as the name of the page as long as it was marginally related to the topic. Not a good idea. Use the keyword phrase as the name of the page and the file.

I didn't check to see what AdWords paid for the keyword phrase. That affected my AdSense revenues.

For example *eliminate bad credit* only gets 170 global searches and has a cpc of 5 cents. *repair bad credit* gets 12,000 searches a month and has a cpc of $6.46

That one word change from eliminate to repair makes a big difference in your ADSense revenues and has more people searching for it.

Dee

Excellent - Excellent Tip Here - if you are a newbie you certainly want to take note of this!

Thanks Dee.

[Dawn Martin]

As a newbie to both this forum and the world of IM, I'd just like to say thanks for these tips, they have certainly made me think in order to get myself up and running.

Dawn
(P.S Sorry for the N/A everywhere - I'm currently on a PC that has most common sense things disabled on it )

[Tracey_Meagher]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

... never EVER stop a money making project in order to start a new project or research something else. I did this so much early on and could have been successful much sooner had I simply done one thing at a time...the thing that would make the money!

This was my downfall too. Starting to think of yourself as being in business rather than goofing around 'trying' to make some money online forces you to take it more seriously and complete projects to the point where they are profitable.

I also made the mistake of not getting into a mentoring program. It took me two years to learn myself what I could have picked up in a few months from a good mentor.

[Jenni Mac]

Focus! Focus! FOCUS!!!

My big mistake back in the day was not focusing on one thing at a time for long enough! I'd see a little success, figure I was ready to move onto the next thing and then my initial success would just fade away because I hadn't set it up correctly, or spent enough time on it. So I'd end up having to go back to my initial success and work at it again! Ending up bored and disillusioned, chasing my own tail!

Focus!

If I had done proper research and focused on using that research one step at a time, I'd be a year ahead of myself now!

Still, you live and learn!

[Matt Maiden]

I focused so much on getting traffic to my site that I completely overlooked what to do with them.

Once I was able to answer this simple question, it all started to click.

What do you want them to do when they get there?

Click an ad? Buy a product? whose product? opt in?...

Once you really know what you want them to do, then the other stuff starts to fall into place.

Matt

[mistermint]

We all make mistakes and always will-what works today may not work tomorrow.

My biggest mistake was not cloaking affiliate links properly.

[Richard Essi]

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Some tips I'd give anyone just starting out (from my experience) would include:

1) Perfectionism is your enemy. Several years ago a very wise and very rich person advised me that a perfectionist was someone lacking either self confidence or self esteem and that made me look at my business in a different light. Striving for perfection is just another displacement activity we force upon ourselves to avoid or delay taking the action we know we should.

In most cases, especially at the beginning of our ventures, good enough is probably good enough.

I remember some of the products put out by the current big names in internet marketing early in their careers and cringe. [Of course, some of their later offerings are still pretty cringeworthy, but at least they now look more professional ]

The point is, just get something done; whether it's a website, blog, product, squeeze page, whatever. You'll quickly improve with experience.

2) Trust yourself. Only you are responsible for your success. So many people look to others to provide them with the key to their own riches. That's an employee mentality and will only serve to keep you working for someone else.

Running your own business is about having the self confidence to make decisions for yourself and seeing them through. By all means, listen to and learn from those more experienced and successful in your field, but don't follow blindly - remember that what they're describing is what works for them; it may or may not apply to your situation.

3) Stop buying stuff. Successful internet marketers buy tools or software that either directly add to their profits or that automate facets of their business, thus improving their efficiency and reducing their workload. They're not product launch junkies desperate for their next fix.

Decide on a business model that's right for you and then only be tempted to buy products that you're sure will be of benefit to that business. Otherwise, it's just too easy to get sidetracked.


Oh, and the biggest lesson of all - if you ain't enjoying it, it ain't worth it.



Frank

Frank....Frank....Frank....

You nailed it bro!! That's what I am talking about!!

Richard

[Richard Essi]

Originally Posted by Richard Essi

Frank....Frank....Frank....

You nailed it bro!! That's what I am talking about!!

Richard

Guys,

This thread should really be made a sticky for newbies!! The information is too good to be lost in the sea of threads!!

The advice in this thread is priceless...it's kind of like having a mastermind of mentors chiming in with their words of wisdom based on solid experience.

Regards,

Richard

[GuerrillaIM]

OK, this is what I wish I had known then:

1) Don't invest money in software unless it is to save you time on existing tasks. I went through a phase of just buying loads of software and then leaving it on my HD to rot. Now I do the process manually to see how it works then look for tools to make the job quicker.

2) Don't commit to high overheads. I made the mistake of taking out a expensive lease, hiring a sales team & developers and commiting myself to a high amount of advertising. It worked well for a while but the recession gave us a little nudge and the house of cards came falling down.

3) Do what YOU want to do. Whatever you do make sure it is something you enjoy. The worst thing I have done is start something purely for the money when I have no interest in it. I get bored quick and find it hard to motivate myself in these situations.

4) Seek out contacts and mentors you can trust. I now save a lot of my time by making contacts with experience in what I want to do. Once you talk to a few experts and ask the right questions you can save yourself months of wasted time.

[cgallagher93]

Hey guys,

I'm only 16 but have been marketing for about 12 months - ish.

I would say that my biggest mistake initially was falling for all the hype of the so-called "gurus". Don't do it. Most of the stuff they sell isn't as great as they make out. In 99% of cases it's decent money-making information but not the "brand new millionaire-overnight maker system" they make out it is.

Becoming a millionaire, or at least financially comfortable requires a lot of work. It's nowhere near as easy as many make out.

In addition, I think you have to be "technically aware" as opposed to a techie-geek. You obviously need to be able to create opt-in forms, build webpages, basic code etc. I wouldn't say any of it was rocket-science but it certainly takes some fathoming out to begin with.

My advice to the newbies is never to buy a course without videos, because the chances are you won't understand it

Hope this advice helps

[Roy Carter]

1st tip: Don't comb your hair with your hat on!

Seriously though, the biggest single reason I see that leads to failure is jumping from one project to the next without ever finishing any project fully. Focus on one thing at a time and absolutely refuse to be distracted until the job is done.

[sneddo]

As others have said do not waist money on software that you do not need.
Look at article outsourcing if you are into article marketing - Do not get more than 300 word articles if your sole point of the article is to get targeted traffic to your site. if you are looking for contectual links to your site have articles of about 500 words and have one link in the article to your page and one in the bio.

It took me a long time to master outsourcing and the best lengths for articles to be. I get over 50% click through for my ezine articles now.

[billionareHuman]

One of my biggest mistakes (one that I still struggle with sometimes) is being consistant in my efforts.

When starting out it's easy to have one day where you go nuts and put in hours of work, then lose all motivation and 3 weeks later come back and do a bit more, lose motivation, a month later come back do a bit more and on and on.

What I found was the more consistant I was, ie. just doing a little but doing it every day, I saw results much quicker than if I just did things in fits and spurts.

That's so true, but there's an easy fix for this, outsource all your stuff and you will see that action happens all the time, and you're free to focus on other stuff.

I used to think that I couldn't outsource some stuff as it was all in my head and it was all things that I learned over the years and it's not so easy to train someone. However when I actually tried to put my methods on paper and video I discovered that I could train anyone to think like me and do things how I wanted it done, it was an amazing discovering for me You can map everything out step by step it's amazing what comes out of your head when you try!

[barbling]

My advice from my 12+ years of earning a living online:

1.) Brand yourself first and foremost. This way, if the niche on which you are focusing goes belly up, you still have your name reputation on which to rely when you tackle your next niche.

2.) If you're new to a niche, find a mentor. For my three biggest niches, I was able to find superb mentors - Bill Vick for recruiting, Jack Peckham for real estate, and Tony Blake for Internet marketing. Mentors have connections newbies do NOT.

3.) Get your list operational. The money is truly in the list....so get that optin on your page asap. It could be for a newsletter, a freebie, a 7 day eclass....anything that starts getting people to sign up. Deliver quality content 1 or 2 times as week and build up your reputation as THE subject matter expert.

4.) Participate in niche forums. Being helpful in niche forums is a great way to build your reputation as THE subject matter expert as well! Boardreader - Forum Search Engine is a good place to find where your niche is being discussed, as is simply searching

niche forum

ie

• recruiter forum
• nascar forum
• knitting forum

5.) Develop a tag line. For example, I'm not only "Barbara Ling", I'm also "Virtual Coach." When you comment on blogs, you can add your tagline after your name. If there are keywords in your tagline, that goes a long way towards getting your name seeded online.

6.) Take ownership. Take ownership of both your successes AND your failures. Blaming anyone else is a great way to sink into unhappiness at an even faster rate. You cannot depend upon ANYONE (read: your mentors, your network, your friends your family) except YOURSELF for success or failure....you are the one driving the process.

7.) Do NOT lie!!!!!! ARGH! Today someone posted at my niche forums an obvious lie about Zero Friction Marketing - they said in their post, they just started using it, but the page to which they directed readers stated, they're making bleeploads of money already. It's SOOOOO easy to search on Google for fake testimonials! That will go a hell of a long way to RUIN your credibility as well.

8.) Give happily on Twitter, FB, etc. Go out of your way to answer questions in the field in which you are specializing; chances are, people will retweet your info.

Some ideas,

Barbara

[morry]

Biggest mistake I made was spending too much time on "money makers", not actually building a proper business. Once I started doing that my income grew pretty consistently. When I was building money makers, I was like those guys who try and keep 10 plates spinning in the air. The moment I left one alone, it smashed into a million pieces.

Focus on a business people

Sean

[btheiler]

Biggest mistake was buying the "next big money making guide" and was wasting all my money but never taking action. Many of the guides actually out there will work if you stick to it, that's just the problem though. Taking action is the first big hurdle but then you have to keep yourself from getting distracted by the next "guru" craze over the next big guide.

Just stick to a system and don't read any of your emails, this is what I finally started doing and I found myself getting a lot more work done.

[timer]

Some good points. Keywords are the basis of all the other building blocks. Once you've got your head round that, the chances of making a living online increase enormously don't they? They are the foundation but it's so easy when first starting to whizz straight through past keywords to all the other stuff isn't it.

[HelenS]

As a newbie both to IM and this forum I have to say I am super impressed! I got just as much out of reading this one page as I have spending a small fortune on courses (which I have done)

I am definitely stuck in the research, research, research stage and am not really taking any action... I keep telling myself when I’ve learnt this or when I understand that I will take action... You guys have given me the confidence (yup that’s what it comes down to) to take action NOW!

Honestly, that is priceless!
Thank you so much

[Paxton]

Never, ever, ever try to game the search engines. As many resources as you can throw at Google in at attempt to game them, they've got more to throw right back at you and send your sites to page 7 gazillion hell.

Treat the search engines right and they become your best customers.

Also keep in mind: search engine robots don't have Credit Cards or PayPal accounts. Your visitors have those and the only way you can get them to use them is to offer value on your sites.

No matter what niche you market in, your traffic is looking for information. Information to make a buying decision, information to justify a buying decision or information to cancel a buying decision. Information.

Offer that and the search engines will reward you and your traffic will buy from you.

[barbling]

Originally Posted by HelenS

...I am definitely stuck in the research, research, research stage and am not really taking any action... I keep telling myself when I’ve learnt this or when I understand that I will take action... You guys have given me the confidence (yup that’s what it comes down to) to take action NOW!

Honestly, that is priceless!
Thank you so much

It's called "just freakin' DO IT!" because if YOU don't, nobody else will do it for you.

Work towards making it happen....best of success to you!

[HelenS]

Thanks Barbling

[Steven Wagenheim]

The biggest mistake I made starting out was not building an opt in list.

I know it's a terrible cliche (the money is in the list) but usually the worst
cliches are so because they're true, providing you know HOW to build an
opt in list. Yes, you do have to know what you're doing. You can't just
throw any old squeeze page out there. You can't just target any old market
and keyword phrase. You can't just offer any old crappy incentive.

Everything has to be carefully planned, right from the initial research to
that very last email followup.

If you do this correctly, it alone can provide you with a full time income.

Especially if you're offering your list something that they want, can use
and actually works for them.

Then...you have customers virtually for life.

[Sisu]

As a newbie also to the forum and to IM, I found this information fantastic. Wow, I see myself doing most of those mistakes..taking hours to write an article, not searching for keywords, buying useless programs, although I finally hit on one that was of great value and affordable, including videos. (Let me know if anyone is interested). Anyway, I want to thank you all from the bottom of my heart as it has certainly boosted my morale....I know that I'm not alone!

[Sisu]

I just read Steven's post and noticed that he's posted over 12,000 posts. I can't even imagine...what an accomplishment.