How Many Times Can I Submit The Same Article?

[pheonix44]

Hey rich jerk, what kind of penalty are you referring to. I am planning on using socialbot to do this kind of stuff with my niche site. How should I go about it?

Originally Posted by pheonix44

Hey rich jerk, what kind of penalty are you referring to. I am planning on using socialbot to do this kind of stuff with my niche site. How should I go about it?

The bookmarking sites can ban you if you just sit there and spam them .... Viewing that video will help but you also need to make yourself a plan before you just blindly go bookmarking. Banned accounts do not look to good to search engines.

Plan on using many different accounts for the same site and also plan on bookmarking other sites besides your own (news site for one) and also plan on becoing apart of the communities, this means login your accounts, be social, make friends, and etc...

Bookmarking done "properly" takes a great deal of time even with automation software. The payoff can be great though if you do it right.

James

[pheonix44]

Multiple accounts? If I had multiple account and tried to participate in the communities it would take forever. Maybe if I just focused on the top ones and used the others as backlinks, what do you think of that?

[mojuu]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

OMG!!! Where do you people learn this stuff ???? Post on your site first and you can post to hundred directories at the same time including EZA....

Please read the thread that was posted on this thread several times now...

James

Right. Post the article on your own site first, I agree. No harm done there.

In my experience however I've found EZA to not accept an article on the basis that it was posted on another articel directory. Just sharing my experiences here, not guessing, but not saying that it's alwyas like this either.

Originally Posted by mojuu

In my experience however I've found EZA to not accept an article on the basis that it was posted on another articel directory. Just sharing my experiences here, not guessing, but not saying that it's alwyas like this either.

Ok and not trying to be rude but - Who Cares ??? Eza is NOT the king of article directories, there are many other sites that can get listings just as good and even better than EZA without all the bullcrap rules and waiting...

Personally I no longer submit to EZA and waste my time by giving them high quality content just to incraese their google ad clicks. If someone wants to submit to EZA though, you do NOT have to wait for an article to be approved... Just submit to hundreds of sites including EZA at the same time...

By the way remove the affiliate link out of your sig ... NOW!!!!!!

James

Originally Posted by pheonix44

Multiple accounts? If I had multiple account and tried to participate in the communities it would take forever. Maybe if I just focused on the top ones and used the others as backlinks, what do you think of that?

Yes it does take time... As I said even with automative software you will spend a great amount of time if you want to do it properly... Course now you could be like many others and just be a spammer that use automation software but never take the time to login and be apart of the community - but those people normally never get what they thought they would out of bookmarking...

Remember this is a business and any business takes time and effort... You are going to get out of it what you put into it... There are no secrets, there are no magic buttons, you must work and work hard to build your business...

James

[pheonix44]

I guess the constant reference to EZA refers to the direct traffic they can bring you. But I have found that the CTR is usually around 15%, so for every 100 views I get I only get 15 clicks. So if I am selling a product that converts at 2% I would have to get about 600 views to this article in order to get 100 clicks to my site for the chance to make those two sales or even one sale. While this is possible I would prefer to get most of those clicks directly to my site, and have me making higher affiliate commissions, getting more opt-ins, and making that adsens revenue.

[lilgrace]

I would love to have the thread 'Article On Site or EZA First' made a sticky! Instead of reading the whole thread people are coming in and reading the last POST in the thread and starting the whole thing over and over again.

[LynnM]

Originally Posted by lilgrace

I would love to have the thread 'Article On Site or EZA First' made a sticky! Instead of reading the whole thread people are coming in and reading the last POST in the thread and starting the whole thing over and over again.

And the same question is coming up in other parts of the forum too:

Same Content: article submission and website?

Duplicate content and articles sites

This one's going to run and run.

[MarkAse]

I think one thing I've learned already is that EZine has the most stringent submission standards, so submit there first unless you're posting it on your own blog/website then spin it to other directories.

[David]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

You obviously have no idea who I am if you think I do not understand article marketing ...

Crappy articles just to get links is a bad way to go about things... Quantity is not the first thing you should be thinking about "QUALITY" is... I am sorry but articles are about building backlinks and traffic both.

It's funny you are talking to me about some over expensive services

Again stop giving out bad advice, I can backup everything I say and I have done so on here many times...

James

I'd take what James said over an opposing view of almost anyone else.

Here's my 2 cents:

I had a high end doctor ask me to get him ranked higher (not gonna give out any keywords being targeted, too much money involved...)

anyway, I did a quick check of the competition:
guy in #1 spot had 3,000 back links
guy in #2 had 6,000 back links

obviously the PR (and I'm not talking about the silly green bar that show us what Google WANTS us to see) the PR or quality of the 3,000 links was of more value to what ever weighting scale Google's algo uses then the guy with 6,000 back links.

It is apparent to me that the quantity over quality debates depends on who it is your going after, if the opposing side has zilch then anything you do is gonna blow him out of the water, if the opposing side has done his homework and earned his coveted top spot you're gonna have to work your ass off.

Originally Posted by MarkAse

I think one thing I've learned already is that EZine has the most stringent submission standards, so submit there first unless you're posting it on your own blog/website then spin it to other directories.

Do you know how many spun articles and junk articles are in EZA ??? There are plenty trust me.. You are right though they are strict and personally I am nto putting my business on hold waiting on them to approve a article or not.... There are better websites to post to that does not have the problems EZA does..

James

[CDawson]

Originally Posted by SiteLabs

With the except of a few of the larger article directories, namely ezine, your article will end up on an PR0 page, so exactly what is the advantage you are talking about here.

I can write articles to goarticles and have them on the first page of google with good keywords and social bookmarking the articles, so I guess im just lucky?

[lilgrace]

Originally Posted by wildfremd

I don't know about that James... PR, aside from trying to market with articles like EZine, plays a HUGE role as to whether or not you're within the first 10 results on Google. Having high PR backlinks (which eventually boosts your PR as well) can mean getting indexed in less than 2 hours vs. a week. I've tried it....if you know your stuff, PR can be a lifesaver. Did you know that 1.3 billion out of 1.6 billion internet users go with Google? If you're not seen on Google, the chances that you're going to be successful with your site are kinda slim....

Uploading to document sites is a great idea too!

I have seen sites with a PR0 - PR3 sites on the first page ABOVE some sites with a PR5 to PR7....no joke!

[pheonix44]

I have seen sites with a PR0 - PR3 sites on the first page ABOVE some sites with a PR5 to PR7....no joke

I have seen this as well, I believe google has some sort of system we are not aware of. I think that little green bar doesn't mean as much as we all think it does. I created a site and have two links pointing back to it from pages with PR0, it is only a few months old and now the site I created is PR3.

Wildfremd,
PR means little ... According to google I have a PR1 site but yet I can have anyone of my authors articles in top position in 10 minutes, not 2 hours... I have already posted screenshot of this here several times with severak different authors.

And the rankings also pushed EZA down the road, while my sit took top position. EZA is a PR 6 or something they say (I really do not look because I really do not care)... But point is the PR means very little.

Did you know that 1.3 billion out of 1.6 billion internet users go with Google? If you're not seen on Google, the chances that you're going to be successful with your site are kinda slim....

This is not a fully correct statement... Did you know many people use 20 and 30 search engines at a time ? As far as a website being a success without google that happens every single day, nothing new ...

James

[danyasdad]

I read an article by a friend of mine named Ben Mapp and he had a pretty intersting take on this:

"Some marketers explicitly don’t do this because of the idea that “duplicate content” will be frowned upon by search engines.
I don’t have any experience that this is the case. I mean, if I’m the author of the article, I should be able to syndicate my content for maximum distribution. Why would that get “slapped” by Google? Newspaper columns, sitcoms, and other media use this type of syndication model to maximize readers/viewers and revenue, why shouldn’t it also work on the Internet? More importantly, if this were the case, then why would Ezine publishers use content from article directories in their ezines?"

The entire article was good but this talks specifically to your question.

Originally Posted by danyasdad

I read an article by a friend of mine named Ben Mapp and he had a pretty intersting take on this:

The entire article was good but this talks specifically to your question.

Maybe you should go read the EZA thread also ... Duplicate Content is a myth ....

James

[pheonix44]

Some marketers explicitly don’t do this because of the idea that “duplicate content” will be frowned upon by search engines.

This is what I used to think, but now I see how it really works. There is a science to it all.

[SiteLabs]

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

WRONG!! Stop giving advice out all together dude before you really cost someone to lose big time in their business....

You can be banned and punished for bookmarking incorrectly and as far as links being discounted again you are wrong...

James

It is sad, that some one with 3000+ posts is still clueless noob as to how the algorithm works. People following your advice will starve, you are doing people no favours and shouting WRONG doesn't help anyone, try explaining your reason why you think it is wrong instead and we can discuss the points at hand.

Try researching the pagerank algorithm and you will soon see that links have to be discounted after a certain point otherwise people would just make a million spam pages to their sites to increase pagerank.

I humbly await your 'educated' response.

[livewellfinancial]

For me it is better to submit a unique article in every directories...

Originally Posted by SiteLabs

It is sad, that some one with 3000+ posts is still clueless noob as to how the algorithm works. People following your advice will starve, you are doing people no favours and shouting WRONG doesn't help anyone, try explaining your reason why you think it is wrong instead and we can discuss the points at hand.

Try researching the pagerank algorithm and you will soon see that links have to be discounted after a certain point otherwise people would just make a million spam pages to their sites to increase pagerank.

I humbly await your 'educated' response.

I have no need to lower myself to a trolls level... I am glad you think the way you do though because I have clients that make 5 and 6 figure incomes...lol

I do not have to prove you are wrong because the FACT is it has already been proven.

James

Ok sorry for the delay in this post ....

Update:

Robin has provided me with the 5 articles I paid for, they was provided on the 14th... Now to prove that quality matters over quantity and quality should be your first concern I have run some test with these articles and a brand new site.

I have provided these results to Robin, these are beginning results as more is going to be done.

This is the basics though, I will not post links here due to it may be considered self promotion.

* 5 Articles purchased and was given on the 14th
* I posted all 5 on my site on the 18th (did not have time to do it before)
* All 5 are indexed in google showing promising results
* All 5 articles have been bookmarked (actually bookmarking is still going on)
* The new site I am using is already listed in google and has front page listing
* 2 Articles was repurposed and turned into a beautiful pdf and posted on 1 document sharing site (posted today the 19th at 4PM) - It already has 30+ views.

No articles have been posted to any article directory yet or any other blog yet. But a brand new site is already index with front page listing and traffic is already coming. All this from 5 simple high quality articles.

So bottom line (and I will continue to post these articles, I am by far from being done) is high quality articles are the first thing you need to concern yourself with, not quantity... Quantity is important yes, but to prove the the bad advice as being just that, bad advice you can see quality rules hands down....

James