If you could make $45/hr...

by byttn Banned
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If you could make a consistent $45 (or more) an hour in an at home sales position, how many hours a day would you work? How many days a week?

If getting this 'job' required 30 days of unpaid training, would you be willing to put in the effort?

I only ask because I want to know what all of you would have to say. I want to know how many of you think you would be disciplined enough to endure the 30 days to have the opportunity to make good money, and how hard you'd work after that to craft the life you want. That is all.
#$45 or hr #make
  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    If I was in that position, forced to take it, 12-18 hours a day for 9-12 months, burn out and move onto what I actually enjoyed doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    It depends on where you live. In some places $45 an hour is a lot of money... but unfortunately, in San Francisco... I wouldn't get out of bed for $45 dollars an hour straight every day.

    First of all, taxes automatically take away 35% of all earnings - plus there are other deductions. And the cost of living around here is sky high.

    So my point is... it's not in the dollar amount... it's all about your lifestyle and what you are willing to settle for.

    Reach for the sky.

    And in online marketing if you are not being payed by a big corporation, and you are doing it yourself.... 30 days is not enough to learn the necessary skills to have a sustainable business.

    It takes a little bit longer than that.
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    • Originally Posted by Chris Chicas View Post

      It depends on where you live. In some places $45 an hour is a lot of money... but unfortunately, in San Francisco... I wouldn't get out of bed for $45 dollars an hour straight every day.

      First of all, taxes automatically take away 35% of all earnings - plus there are other deductions. And the cost of living around here is sky high.

      So my point is... it's not in the dollar amount... it's all about your lifestyle and what you are willing to settle for.

      Reach for the sky.

      And in online marketing if you are not being payed by a big corporation, and you are doing it yourself.... 30 days is not enough to learn the necessary skills to have a sustainable business.

      It takes a little bit longer than that.
      35% in San Francisco are you kidding me? If you make 90K your state/fed taxes with the Fica and other BS they steal from your paycheck is way more then 35% plus California votes more and more stuff to get from you, plus you have the federal inflation tax which no one counts.
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      • Profile picture of the author allegandro
        Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

        35% in San Francisco are you kidding me? If you make 90K your state/fed taxes with the Fica and other BS they steal from your paycheck is way more then 35% plus California votes more and more stuff to get from you, plus you have the federal inflation tax which no one counts.
        You have the same problem as we in the Netherlands I see. But here they take over 50%, so sunny California is not that bad.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Federal top income bracket, 35%.

          Last I heard, Cali income tax, 13%.

          Self-employment FICA, etc., 12% (?).

          Sounds more like the Cali folks get to keep ~35%.

          Yikes!
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Tyme
    It all depends on what your goals are and your lifestyle.

    It's no different than any other sales job. Almost all of them require un-paid training.

    But if you become good at it, the reward can be FAR greater than the risk.

    $45 an hour? I would work 10 hours a day 6 days a week.

    Especially if it's from your home office.
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    • Profile picture of the author byttn
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      Originally Posted by Chris Chicas View Post

      It depends on where you live. In some places $45 an hour is a lot of money... but unfortunately, in San Francisco... I wouldn't get out of bed for $45 dollars an hour straight every day.

      First of all, taxes automatically take away 35% of all earnings - plus there are other deductions. And the cost of living around here is sky high.

      So my point is... it's not in the dollar amount... it's all about your lifestyle and what you are willing to settle for.

      Reach for the sky.

      And in online marketing if you are not being payed by a big corporation, and you are doing it yourself.... 30 days is not enough to learn the necessary skills to have a sustainable business.

      It takes a little bit longer than that.
      It may not amount to a whole lotlot, given yolifestyle, but there are thousands of people there who work and survive on minimum wage at 40 hours or less. So quadrupling that pay has to be able to afford something.


      Originally Posted by Justin Tyme View Post

      It all depends on what your goals are and your lifestyle.

      It's no different than any other sales job. Almost all of them require un-paid training.

      But if you become good at it, the reward can be FAR greater than the risk.

      $45 an hour? I would work 10 hours a day 6 days a week.

      Especially if it's from your home office.
      Very well put.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Can the training at least result in INCOME for the person being 'trained'?

    What I mean is if the 'training' can be used for the 'trainee''s own websites then it would be worthwhile. If the training is to benefit someone else... that might be a problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author byttn
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      Originally Posted by 0xFF View Post

      "30-day of unpaid training" is not a problem, I developed the software in my signature during two years, full-time, unpaid... Currently, three years later (ie. exactly 9 months after the 1.0 ; we are at level of the 1.2), I have to share my time between this software (R&D for the next steps and marketing) and an activity of independent developer for others...

      So, from this personal and concrete example, in my opinion all depends on the financial situation of the candidate : if he has some "money buffer" allowing him/her to take some risks or not !

      If, materially, he *cannot*, it's very simple : there's no question to wonder! If he *can*, the next question is the motivation about what you have to offer (if something do not please me or go against my nature, there's no way).

      So, what is this mysterious home business you're talking about ?
      I think anyone can make it work if they really want it. Although it's a movie, The Pursuit of Happiness is a good example. And believe it or not, I'm sure people go through similar hardships every day.

      If I were presented such an opportunity, I'd like to say that I'd do whatever it took to make it happen. If I had to lose my home and had to live in my car, I would like to say that I'd let it be.

      Unfortunately, I'm not offering anything. I want to hear what other people have to say so I can draw motivation from it, as I have been presented with this opportunity. It's going to take hard physical labor and overcoming a lot of uncertainty, but if I can do so, I'll find myself in an ideal situation where I work from home, as many or as few hours as I like, and can go anywhere I please.

      $45 an hour, to me, is very adequate. Here in my small (and shitty) home towntown, I can secure a nice three bedroom brick home for $700-$850/mo. I could live very comfortably in this town for $3500, give or take a few hundred. I could live in a nicer town or city for just a few hundred dollars more in rent every month. Ultimately, at $45 an hour I could work 20-25 hours a week and be set. Alas, I desire more, and would most likely work 8-10 hours a day, 4-5 days a week.
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      • Profile picture of the author 0xFF
        Originally Posted by byttn View Post

        $45 an hour, to me, is very adequate. Here in my small (and shitty) home towntown, I can secure a nice three bedroom brick home for $700-$850/mo. I could live very comfortably in this town for $3500, give or take a few hundred. I could live in a nicer town or city for just a few hundred dollars more in rent every month. Ultimately, at $45 an hour I could work 20-25 hours a week and be set. Alas, I desire more, and would most likely work 8-10 hours a day, 4-5 days a week.
        Then, I don't see why you hesitate. Just go ! A 30-day training is nothing and you have more to win than you have to loose if I well understand (feel) your situation.

        Effectivelly as some told you here, when you sell your time, you're limited , but it can be a starting point to reach the stability and, after this, to build something more autopilot-oriented, without emergency.
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  • Profile picture of the author gvidass
    Good question But I guess people who started IM have spent even more time developing their skills and trying to come up with something, to start making money. And no one paid for this spent time. Just like me I started everything long time ago, but it took also long time to start seeing any results and I'm not talking about 45$ per hour, getting that amount of money per day was a huge thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author byttn
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      Originally Posted by gvidass View Post

      Good question But I guess people who started IM have spent even more time developing their skills and trying to come up with something, to start making money. And no one paid for this spent time. Just like me I started everything long time ago, but it took also long time to start seeing any results and I'm not talking about 45$ per hour, getting that amount of money per day was a huge thing.
      I agree. People have spent much unpaid time trying to succeed. I, personally, never met $45/day. Hell, in IM I never beat $11 or $12 in a day and it was not consistent, either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrewsfm
    I'd rather find something that works on autopilot mostly, with a few hours a day required.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    Originally Posted by byttn View Post

    If getting this 'job' required 30 days of unpaid training, would you be willing to put in the effort?

    No, because it sounds like a crappy company to work for and a waste of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hanney
    I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't work a job that was dependant on the number of hours I worked in relation to how much I could earn. You are limiting what you can earn based on how many hours you are willing to work even after 30 days of un-paid training. Spend 30 days learning something else so you can start your won gig and you will earn a lot more money and be your own boss.
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    40 hours a week at $45 an hour is $7200 a month .. that's not so great actually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    "30 days of unpaid training" sounds like it's a scam trying to get me to work for free for 30 days.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Make it $450 and I'm in...Not!

    Are you guaranteed $45 per hour or is it "up to" is possible?
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  • Profile picture of the author KeenR
    I know many people who would jump at this opportunity. The 30 day unpaid training may be a deal breaker unless there was some type of guarantee of employment.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by KeenR View Post

      I know many people who would jump at this opportunity. The 30 day unpaid training may be a deal breaker unless there was some type of guarantee of employment.
      There would still be takers if the training enabled them to BENEFIT THEMSELVES (even without a paycheck) like building better links to their sites or getting more traffic or anything that can be converted to income.
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  • Profile picture of the author michealkhobis
    One people can do work 10 hours per day & 5 days a week. In this case 50 hours per week @ $ 45. So $2250 per week. It is sound good. If one can earn this amount from anywhere of the world, he can lead a gorgeous life, I think. Thanks a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Yeah i would put in the effort. I'd work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week... and get a massage on Saturday, visit a Brothel on Sunday, then go back to work on Monday.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Originally Posted by byttn View Post

    If you could make a consistent $45 (or more) an hour in an at home sales position, how many hours a day would you work? How many days a week?

    If getting this 'job' required 30 days of unpaid training, would you be willing to put in the effort?

    I only ask because I want to know what all of you would have to say. I want to know how many of you think you would be disciplined enough to endure the 30 days to have the opportunity to make good money, and how hard you'd work after that to craft the life you want. That is all.
    This sounds to me like a sales pitch or something.
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