I'm Resigning...

Welcome to the club. Never been in the MMO niche and never wanted to be. There's plenty of money to be made online outside of the MMO niche. Good luck.

Sounds like your heart is not in it. You definitely need passion for this to hang in there. Best of luck with whatever you choose to do next.

I'm glad to hear that someone finally gets it.

Congratulations for seeing the light. I gave up on the MMO option years ago when it turned out to be a competitive battle with low-life scammers and well-meaning sellers who were clueless. It didn't matter if I had a legitimate product or service to sell. The scammers and know-nothings always won. Of course, there's always a renewable supply of ignorant and desperate buyers who will buy anything, given enough false promises. I just preferred to not be a part of that market which, unfortunately, is part of the WF tradition.

I found if you provide a legitimate online product or service that appeals to intelligent people, you will achieve long-term success. My success is 20 years long. I think I know what I'm talking about.

Of course this is true.

But here is the thing . Some of us have not even entered the MMO niche until we did other Niches outside of it and had success with that

Sounds like you built your business based on Theory instead of actual experience !

Your one of the ones that learned about IM and then taught other people about IM and got those people to teach others how to do IM etc..etc.

Contrary to what you might think NOT everyone here is in that boat

Looks like you're not the right person to ask such questions then.

If you're in the MMO arena then you either provide value to people or you don't.

If you're saying that you didn't provide value, then good, leave and find something else that makes you feel productive. But if you provided value to people who enjoyed it, then I see no reason why you should be troubling yourself.

Cyaaaa mate!

Oh, just letting you know... "the days of promoting MMO products are OVER".

That's probably the dumbest thing I've heard...

Besides a very small minority of people which includes hippies and monks.

I'm pretty sure everyone out there wants to make more money.

Also, your logic of internet marketing is teaching others how to make money online makes YOU look like a pyramid scheme...

Another way to make money is by implementing the MMO strategies being taught not re-teaching it! Maybe try selling t-shirts? Maybe trying doing PPL for local business? Maybe try doing paid marketing for CPA offers directly with big companies? OR even try actually doing what you learn as oppose to re-selling it...

So nope, the internet marketing world is not what you think it is. It is your own version of internet marketing because you know it's the easy way to make a buck online.

Maybe one day, when you actually realize that internet marketing is just marketing but on the internet... Nothing more, nothing less.

Either way, good luck with your online journey.

Doing things because you love it... That's what hobbies are for.

You say you got into the business for the wrong reason, but it sounds as if you're getting out for the wrong reason too. There's no sense in being miserable at a job, but they call it work because it's work - no matter where you do it or who you do it for.

Trading 1 fantasy for another doesn't seem the like the best action plan, but good luck.

Yes, build something that will TOTALLY CHANGE the world! Like an IPhone, or automated car without any drivers.

All these makes the world a better place to live in.

Maybe one day, we don't need any money to sustain our lives. With free electricity, free water supply, etc.

i hear what you are saying. i have been in the mmo niche for a long time and the question i ask myself the most is, "am i really helping people" because that's my main motivation in life. i've always gone the extra mile though and it's been very rewarding. it's also been very hard when building so many relationships.

one of my dreams is to get out of the im biz myself and start helping people more directly one day.....specifically homeless/runaways. a more targetted group of people i know i can help online/offline. unfortunately i don't have the capital for my dream business plan right now. being in the mmo niche for me right now allows me to possibly get there one day though.....

I'm in the MMO niche exclusively. I'm a current product creator, but I always want my products to be of value (as best as it can possibly be). I'm currently in the process of creating a new product, but I'm trying to provide value in it.

I also created an MMO blog as well to provide more value for my future customers and subscribers.

I'm in this for the financial freedom it can potentially offer me, but I also want to provide value at the same time.

In a job, you're building someone else's dream.
In a business, you're building your own...

That's where the distinction lies for me. Any blood, sweat, and tears I put in, will be to build something great that I can be proud of.

Like others have said here, if you don't like the MMO niche, pick something you do like. I hate to see people just put their hands in the air and say "I give up!".

Pick a hobby, something you like already, learn all you can about that market, what they want, what they need, where they hang out. Provide information people are looking for, help people, build products that serve to help people. BUILD A LIST! Build a relationship with them. (I sure hope you've been doing this. Because if not, that could be your missing puzzle piece) These principles work in just about every niche out there.

Don't give up friend. If you've been hanging around this long, I know you've got what it takes to grow your business big.

-Dustin

PS: Do you read often? I've got a book that completely changed the way I think about my business (and my life). PM me if you want to know the title...

I've been in the "biz opp/MMO" niche since I started in 2008. I absolutely LOVE it! I am passionate about what I do and I love getting up whenever I want, working when and if I want, and essentially being 100% in charge of my own life.

It's probably one the largest, fastest growing, and easiest niches to make a solid income in. I started out as an affiliate, and I am still basically an affiliate today. I have a few of my own products, but I've always found it so much easier to sit back and concentrate on building a targeted list and let others do the heavy lifting of product creation. I'm more than happy to come in and sell the finished product for a nice commission.

Anyhow, as far as the MMO niche being like a "pyramid," that's probably one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. It's only a pyramid if YOU treat it as one and run your business as such.

I only promote quality products to my list, and only ones that I know will truly help them achieve their end goal, which is making money from the Internet. I concentrate solely on helping others, and I absolutely LOVE helping people. It is such a fantastic feeling when you show someone how to get that first commission!

That being said, while the mission statement of my business is to help others achieve the same financial and social freedoms that I have, my end goal is of course to make money, and lots of it. Does that make me greedy? I don't think so. The goal of any business, online or otherwise, is profit. Anybody that sits here and says they don't care about money and they only started an online business to help others is either lying, delusional, or has a huge trust fund so they don't have to worry about money anyway.

The difference for me is that while I am in business to make money so my family and I can eat, I do not run my business with the mindset that making money is the core of my business. The core value of my business is to help others. I enjoy helping others and I always help others free of charge. I don't sit there and constantly try and sell sell sell. I am a firm believer in providing value. I also believe that you must help others get what they want and in turn you will then get what you want.

I don't have the mindset that so many people in the MMO niche have, and that is that they could care less about helping others, and they could care less about the quality of product they are selling/promoting as long as it turns them a quick buck. People with that mindset are surely in business for the wrong reasons and probably don't belong doing it. Those are the ones who tarnish the reputation of niches like "biz opp" and "MMO."

It all comes down to the values, ethics, and morals a business owner/Internet Marketer has. I don't think it matters what niche you are in. I've seen marketers who are in the weight loss, hair loss, dog training, etc niches acting just as unethical as some of the shadiest people in the MMO niche.

The bottom line is you must be passionate about the niche you are in, and you must have a mindset of wanting to help people and wanting to provide a valuable service that provides people with a viable and quality solution to their problems. You also need to run your business like a business. If you have the mindset that "the money will come later," then you will probably not make very much money at all. You need to go after the money, but you need to do it the right way. And that goes for ALL niches.

Best wishes to the OP with any new ventures. I hope you see success no matter what niche you choose.

I guess many start in MMO niche to get to their true purpose of online life.

All the best mate.

I think you are just frustrated with the fact that you are the only one making money and not the people you are earning money from. If you want to help people succeed too, why not create your own product where you teach the EXACT methods that you have used to earn a living online.

Maybe you should take a few days off from the internet and just leave the city for a nice vacation? Take a breather and just re-charge your emotions.

Totally up to you what you do, and how you feel. Only you know if you were providing value in the MMO world.

You can give value if you teach stuff that genuinely works (you did it yourself) that helps the people who buy your products.

I agree there are way too many people in MMO who have never ever made a dime online outside of teaching people how to make money online. We all know that. It's not news to anyone. But what you fail to realise is that exactly the same goes for any niche you can think of.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that entering a new niche will make you immune from the same tactics. They're all the same and you will never escape that. There is no niche that's all sweetness and light and rainbows. Everyone wants their buck.

The web is full of weight loss and fitness sites created by fat unhealthy people. People who have never owned Dogs have Dog training sites. Unmarried childless people create affiliate sites about parenting and babies. Marketers who have never set foot on a Golf course have Golf websites pushing Golf products from Clickbank. Guys who are useless at talking to girls have dating sites telling you how to get girls. And I could go on .... forever !

The fact is, you could be a huge fat ugly trucker from Idaho. Yet online you're Jenny from New York, the young and attractive hard-bodied personal fitness trainer. All you need is a few royalty free photos and a website. And don't think there aren't LOADS of marketers already doing this kind of thing in EVERY niche.

It's just your job to do it better than the majority of others and remain honest. Don't single out MMO as a being a seedy little niche when the whole world of Internet Marketing is no different. Do it your way and if you provide real value in any niche you go into, forget the rest.

I know it can be tough selling anything online and these days it is getting a lot harder, but you just need faith that things will look brighter in the future. Ok, well good luck with whatever you decide to do.

If you go than there is more for us... <.<

Just to add something I forgot in my above post. You will never make a difference to everyone you come into contact with. Heck, you probably won't make a difference to 5% of them.

As an example, I've been in mentoring groups with top marketers, and some take the advice on board and take huge action, and go on to create a nice profitable business. But the vast majority (95% or more) do nothing. Same with buyers of WSO's and MMO products. Most read it and forget it. Some take action on it and create a profitable business. You can never force people to take action.

It's a very noble intention to try and make a difference in the world, but you never will unless you find a cure for the common cold.

Sorry to be so negative, but it's true. Why do some people make big bucks online and others don't when they use the same information ? Two different people could read the same book or eCourse, yet one of them becomes a millionaire and the other lives in poverty the rest of his life ? It's out of your hands. All you can do is put your best info out there and try to make a difference to as many as you can. The niche is irrelevant. MMO is no better or worse than all the others IF you provide valuable actionable content.

If I had to hazard a guess...

...is that within a few months (if they're patient enough to play the long game) the "mindset" changes again. Contentpro22 will just have to share the better way of doing things. For a fee, of course.

you go man! Good Stuff ! and making the intention public is good too!

Hey man, if you're burned out...

Maybe you just need a vacation?

Lol go take a couple weeks or months off and really relax.

Marc

I hear you. We all come to ends in our lives that will then become new beginnings. That's what's so great. We can make choices.

Wishing you great success on whatever your next journey will take you! Go be great at it!!

Leilani