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Outsourcing My Affiliate Funnel Based On Results.

by shakedog
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Are there any reliable services/individuals out there that can build my affiliate marketing (IM/MMO) sales funnel and charge based on results achieved? They must be known in the community and have testimonials (goes without saying).

Basically, I am looking to outsource a couple of landing pages that can get up to 60% or more opt-in rate, a thank you page (if not sent directly to an OTO), and a quality email follow up series that conditions my leads to buy and produces sales.

I'm not looking for vague training, some do-it-yourself training that's full of continuity holes, or someone regurgitating stuff they've read. I'm looking for the real deal.

Who offers services like this? Someone who can write a killer headline, can produce an intriguing lead magnet, understands copywriting through email, and when it comes down to it, understands how to get results for their client.

Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
    I dont think so anyone will work with you based on performance , Seems very ridiculous its just like one spends days working on your funnel and at the end of the day you just tell them it didn't work hence they wont be paid .. Doesn't seem logical at all ..
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    • Profile picture of the author shakedog
      I thought it seemed logical if I had the stats to show them or if they could login to my account to see for themselves, if in fact, they are setting up my ar.

      There is always a way to do something. People sell based on delivering results all the time. This should be no different and it certainly isn't uncommon. What is common in this industry unfortunately is setting expectations, but not delivering on them.
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  • Profile picture of the author techforce
    But what if the offer itself is not attractive or the traffic you drive to the funnel is not convertable what can the designer make with that ?
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    • Profile picture of the author shakedog
      Originally Posted by techforce View Post

      But what if the offer itself is not attractive or the traffic you drive to the funnel is not convertable what can the designer make with that ?
      I'd be willing to work with the designer over a period of time. This is a good point and multiple offers would need to be tested. I wouldn't expect to pop in a few and it's golden, but avoiding someone who's going to set something quick up and then disappear is my biggest concern. Not the tweaking process.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    The problem is there's really nothing compelling you to pay them based on results unless there's some sort of escrow system.

    Because of this BIG problem, you're better off outsourcing traffic generation to a VA pool and paying based on DELIVERABLES.
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    The question that needs to be answered is. What would your contribution to the project be?

    Would you just be sitting back and waiting?

    How would you be generating the traffic to this funnel? Crap traffic will result in crap results and not to be the fault of the person creating your funnel.

    There are many other variables that would fall on your shoulders before you can hold someone else accountable for your business

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      You can hire people to build your funnel, write your copy, build your list...but unlikely to find experienced freelancers or service and pay them only if they meet your expectations of results.

      Some might be willing to work for a fee PLUS percentage but the work you are describing is more like a 'partner' than hired help.

      "my affiliate marketing"....not clear if YOU are the affiliate marketer or if you are the product creator launching an affiliate program.

      There is always a way to do something. People sell based on delivering results all the time. This should be no different and it certainly isn't uncommon.
      You think it should be no different because it is what YOU want - that doesn't mean it is common to find workers with high skill levels willing to build YOUR business on the chance you will pay them...later. You might be able to find a highly skilled person but the percentage they want and the documentation they require might be more than you want to pay.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

      The question that needs to be answered is. What would your contribution to the project be?

      Would you just be sitting back and waiting?

      How would you be generating the traffic to this funnel? Crap traffic will result in crap results and not to be the fault of the person creating your funnel.

      There are many other variables that would fall on your shoulders before you can hold someone else accountable for your business

      al

      Good point.

      The arrangement the OP wants shifts ALL THE RISK to the person building the funnel.

      Not exactly a very tempting deal.
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      • Profile picture of the author shakedog
        I'm open to other arrangements. Not necessarily a situation where I'm saying "I'll pay you to develop this funnel but if it doesn't convert at x%, then I'm not paying you."

        Outsourcing things like landing pages that convert at 50% or so are plentiful. Outsourcing lead magnets/free reports, no problem. High converting email follow up sequences? Plenty of those out there.

        However, maybe the problem lies with the fact that anyone who has designed a highly converting funnel that is making them a profit already, really has no incentive or reason to build a similar one for anyone else if they're already automating their income.

        Thanks for the feedback everyone. I appreciate the responses.
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        • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
          Designers job is to design , Specially those designers who work for other people its your part to explain to them what you want from them and how funnel should look etc , trust me you are currently in imagination world and you will only come into reality once you start driving traffic and have funnel in place, There is no funnel which will start producing results from day one , Also you said plenty of email sequence emails etc .. those are total crap they never convert ,, you have to make very thing on your own ..

          If you are not willing to put your full efforts i don't think so you would be getting any results either .. What you are thinking right now and taking things .. we all have been there before , thats how we all started but trust me friend its just imagination and way faar from reality


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          Originally Posted by shakedog View Post

          I'm open to other arrangements. Not necessarily a situation where I'm saying "I'll pay you to develop this funnel but if it doesn't convert at x%, then I'm not paying you."

          Outsourcing things like landing pages that convert at 50% or so are plentiful. Outsourcing lead magnets/free reports, no problem. High converting email follow up sequences? Plenty of those out there.

          However, maybe the problem lies with the fact that anyone who has designed a highly converting funnel that is making them a profit already, really has no incentive or reason to build a similar one for anyone else if they're already automating their income.

          Thanks for the feedback everyone. I appreciate the responses.
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  • Profile picture of the author megamind22
    No one would do that this days because of some uncertainties unless if you make an agreement with them to bring something to the table like handle traffic generation, recruit affiliates etc. Other than that no one would want to waste their time and money for what they are no sure of.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    I wouldn't touch a pure performance based deal like this. Too many ways for things to go bad and leave me with nothing.

    When I still did this for others, I did take on the occasional project that paid a base rate plus a percentage if the project intrigued me or the person behind it impressed me.

    You said that all the things you wanted were out there already. Why not just go out and get them, then? You make it sound easy enough.

    Otherwise, it sounds like you are looking for a way to offload all the risk for your project.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    Nobody. Because only a complete idiot would set up a funnel for you in order to get a portion of the profits when they can do it for themselves and get all of the profits.

    What do you bring to the table? Obviously not money. Do you have some great product you want this funnel built around?
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by shakedog View Post

    Are there any reliable services/individuals out there that can build my affiliate marketing (IM/MMO) sales funnel and charge based on results achieved? They must be known in the community and have testimonials (goes without saying).

    Basically, I am looking to outsource a couple of landing pages that can get up to 60% or more opt-in rate, a thank you page (if not sent directly to an OTO), and a quality email follow up series that conditions my leads to buy and produces sales.

    I'm not looking for vague training, some do-it-yourself training that's full of continuity holes, or someone regurgitating stuff they've read. I'm looking for the real deal.

    Who offers services like this? Someone who can write a killer headline, can produce an intriguing lead magnet, understands copywriting through email, and when it comes down to it, understands how to get results for their client.

    Thanks!
    The ones that are truly gifted and talented at doing this and provide this Service, almost for certain would charge a very steep price.

    What you are asking is"results guaranteed" so you will have to pay premium to get this.

    My advice: "Give a man a fish he eats for the day. Teach a man to fish he eats the rest of his life"

    I know its clique but it is Truth. And should be applied here



    - Robert Andrew
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      ROFLMAO! Anyone who builds an affiliate marketing (IM/MMO) sales funnel under such conditions ("outsource a couple of landing pages that can get up to 60% or more opt-in rate, a thank you page, and a quality email follow up series that conditions my leads to buy and produces sales") would most likely keep all the profits themselves rather than turn it over in exchange for a comparatively measly fee.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marc Rodill
    Yeah but think about it...

    Why would anyone who can write killer headlines, lead magnets, write emails, etc. need you? So you can pay them based on results?

    They're already getting paid based on results.

    They're doing it for themselves.

    Why would anyone come along and do all that work to get a percentage when they can do all that work for themselves and keep all the fruits of their labor?

    This arrangement simply doesn't make sense.

    What do they get out of it?

    Not to mention the fact that most campaigns take a lot of trial and error testing to maximize profits, so who's going to spend the money on advertising and testing?

    If you want a ready to go sales funnel...

    You'll have to hire someone to write emails, your lead magnet, your headline.

    That's the only arrangement that makes sense.

    You hire them to provide you with what you need, and you piece everything together. And you take the risk that it doesn't work. But they get paid for their services up front.

    Or you do it yourself with products and tools.

    This is how it works.

    Anyone who's can build and optimize a sales funnel and make it produce results is never going to do all of this labor for you when they can simply do it for themselves.

    Funny idea though.

    Hey - let me do all this work for you so you can make money, and if it doesn't work, I'm out all of the time and energy I put into it. But if it does work, then we can both get paid, and you can be in charge of my pay.

    Genius!

    This is taking the whole "something for nothing" mentality to a whole new level.
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