New Members...You're Being Given Bad Advice

[Josef_Benjamin]

good point on the signature tip.

I used to feel insecure around others who were more established in business than I was and i used to lie about my own results to attract more attention. But it's difficult to mask the B.S (by the posts you make and questions you ask).

I keep my signature truthful. Not quite a powerseller, but on a mission (and truthfully making the money to show for it) to quickly be on his way to being a powerseller on ebay.

I used to be scared that if I told the "truth" about my business situation, it would mean less intrested people. But as I grown more confident in myself as a person, I feel super comfortable telling ppl straight up "hey, I'm no master at this, but I am getting better"...I have more interested ppl BEGGING me to show them what I DO know about ebay and affiliate marketing even though I am not quite yet a GURU.

Strange how that works.

As far as new members being given bad advice?

We were all in the same boat. I too was once kicked off WF for a few months, but I'm back. I've been clean since, and I've made mistakes. But I wouldn't give up on participating in this forum. If he wanted to, he COULD get back on WF and change up his approach and learn from themistakes...how he can go about doing this...I won't quite say lol

[Preben Frenning]

Yeah, everyone can see through hype signatures from new members. It sets them in a bad light really.

I can see that you felt insecure in the beginning, feeling to "had to" make money online like "everyone else". (Which is very far from the truth!)
However, being sincere and honst from the beginning just helps you further. It's better to have a credible profile, than to lie about your earnings. I don't think anyone here on the WF have gotten a single affiliate sale from their link really.

As for me, like like to keep numbers out of my sig for now. A tip to newbies could be to start a wordpress or blogger blogg to have in their signature, where they blog about their venture into IM, what they do, which products that have purchased etc.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Preben Frenning

Having 100 posts doesn't mean you're a pro, but still, you could be.
Having 5 posts, can still be alright if you have a serious name, a good website in your sig, and a picture. You might just have come from another forum.

No, it doesn't. However, somebody who is here to scam the forum isn't
gong to be around long enough to get a decent post count. Most will be
caught fairly early.

Now, as far as IM knowledge, sure. Some people (like me) just like to chat
a lot and it says nothing about how much they know or don't know.

That's another mistake new people make is assuming that somebody
who has a high post count is a super marketer.

The only thing they can be reasonably sure about the person is that
they're not here to scam anybody.

And even that is never a 100% certainty.

In other words, do your due diligence and be careful.

If somebody uses their real name, it's very easy to research them. Just
go to Google and type it in.

If there is any dirt to be found, it's out there.

[Preben Frenning]

Sure. And I'm not saying 100 posts make you credible.
Even people who just likes to chat a bit, like yourself, still gets noticed on the forum.

But you still write plenty of quality posts. (At least the ones I have seen), and you have been thanked over 2000 times! That counts way more than 12000 posts.

But doing things like: Having your full,real name, a picture of yourself, a sincere signature, etc. makes you more credible.

It also grants a lot of safety for members. If you are using your real name, and then scams someone on the forum, everyone will know, you will be banned, and no one will ever take you seriously again =) (Using that name, that is)

[Richard Essi]

Hi All,

Thanks Steven for starting this thread. These are very thought provoking posts!

I can't speak highly enough about the warrior forum as I know what it has brought to me

even when I was just a "lurker".

The amount of quality posts FAR outweigh the spammers and the downright abusive posts, and it is true that all of us are moderators of some sort. So, if it wasn't Stephen, I am sure someone would have come up with a "heads up" kind of post.

Now, If I read correctly, we all agree that there is a problem with this spamming, scamming, and leeching, but differ slightly on a solution.

In my opinion, both proposed solutions can be applied. The "winning the war" solution could be envisaged as a long term strategy while the "winning the fight" solution can be applied immediately while waiting for a "global" solution.

That being said, Good does not exist without bad. You can't define good apples if you don't have bad apples. Does perfect mean having nothing bad?

If human beings, circumstances and life in themselves are not perfect how can we expect to have a perfect environment with imperfect beings?

So what then should we expect? Well, for starters...let's understand that this is going to be a recurring problem. With that in mind, we should be thinking more about creating a culture and philosophy particular to the warrior forum that dominates the entire community to the extent that any one transgressing the "unwritten" laws will feel a strong sense of loneliness overcome him/her...lol

Let me give you an example...in the US there is a very strong patriotic aura in the air, and if you dare speak against the flag, the troops or anything else anti-american for that matter, you WILL FEEL the wrath of both the government AND the people!!
Does that mean now, that everysingle person in the US is like that? probably not! As a matter of fact there are small factions of "anti americans" scattered all over the country, and you will hear about them once in a while, but they are really a minority, and nobody really cares.
Now, the day they would try to raise up a storm, I am convinced they will be dealt with swiftly not necessarily by the government, but AGAIN...most likely by the citizen himself/herself. Get my point?

The same can be said of Germany. Despite their Nazi past there still exists some Nazi extremists. Their public manifestations are condemned by both the government AND the PEOPLE!!

Now, I also understand that in this case it was also about newbies who do this "unknowingly". Well if we can create an environment as strong as the examples mentioned above, We, "the people" alongside the moderators will be sure to remind the member of the rules.

Richard