Co-Reg leads - Should I Consider Using These?

[SMP]

Co-Registration - I'm just not sure.

I read conflicting reports about the merits (or otherwise) of using co-reg leads and I'm really interested to learn of any experience (good or bad) that you have had using these.

We all know that, for any subject relating to internet marketing, there are a thousand reports, ebooks, forum discussion threads and documents of one description or another which will give you both positive and negative opinions on what you should do and what you shouldn't. The beauty about WF is that there are so many successful business people who can impart their advice based on their own experience. I'm really hoping that is the case here.

I have never used co-reg leads but I am very interested to learn about whether I should or not. If I should, would anyone be kind enough to advise me on a source of leads that are proven to work.

Thanks in advance.

Steve.

[Fabian Tan]

As in anything else, it depends on the source (which service or provider) and the user (ad copy, sales funnel) etc.

The source I use is Get Subscribers - works well. Get 10-20 leads per day from it and they convert.

Another co-reg provider I use is List Crew.

Fabian

[TimGross]

Your question is similar to: "Should I run a full-page ad in a magazine promoting my product? I've heard conflicting reports about results people have gotten".

Overall, it's hard to get both advertising methods to work. You need a really strong, proven sales process, with a back-end product(s) in the mix to recover your ad investment.

And, just like with magazine advertising, different co-reg sources are better for certain products than for others.

If you're having trouble making sales as it is and are hoping that co-reg will help you make money, I'd say it's unlikely. If you're already making good money with your sales process, adding co-reg may be worth testing.

[Mr McDonald]

I use get subsribers also, i find them very responsive. I suppose it depends what offer is on the table though.

[netkid]

Steve,

I tried co-reg and had a very hard time finding a hosting service that allows having these types of leads on my server and autoresponder. They are so paranoid about spam complaints.

Make sure you read the "terms of service" very carefully for any web host you are planning on "hanging" co-reg leads on. Just FYI.

The only thing I do now is generate my own leads through opt in boxes with AWEBER. (double opt-in)

Regards,

Bruce

[dadeon]

It really depend on your market and your products and the quality of the leads.

I've had mixed results using List Opt.

These are expensive leads and unless you have a proven salesfunnel that converts well with standard traffic sources you can burn through money very quickly.

It definitely is worth a test.

Buy 500 leads and track vigorously. See how it does and then decide.

Testing is the only way to know for sure. Don't listen too much to other people.

[Fabian Tan]

Co-reg is a little like PPC - test out a lot of sources, just like buying lots of keywords on PPC, to find the winners and the losers. Usually the losers will outnumber the winners, but if you keep the winners, the positive results will last for months and years.

One reason why many don't succeed with co-reg is because some autoresponder company says you shouldn't do it. And because they are using only that autoresponder company, they have to follow the rules of that one service.

BUT, if they use two or three autoresponder services, they have more rules, options, and marketing weapons to play with.

It is like a soldier who has only a pistol in his arsenal against a soldier who may have a pistol, grenades, and a rifle.

More weapons, more resources to play around with.

Fabian

[SMP]

Originally Posted by Fabian Tan

Co-reg is a little like PPC - test out a lot of sources, just like buying lots of keywords on PPC, to find the winners and the losers. Usually the losers will outnumber the winners, but if you keep the winners, the positive results will last for months and years.

One reason why many don't succeed with co-reg is because some autoresponder company says you shouldn't do it. And because they are using only that autoresponder company, they have to follow the rules of that one service.

BUT, if they use two or three autoresponder services, they have more rules, options, and marketing weapons to play with.

It is like a soldier who has only a pistol in his arsenal against a soldier who may have a pistol, grenades, and a rifle.

More weapons, more resources to play around with.

Fabian

Great analogy Fabian.

Thanks for the 2 responses - I'll check out the 2 providers you listed in your other post. Much appreciated.

You know, I bought your ExplosiveTrafficSystem a few months ago and reading your posts has made me dig it out again. I'm glad I did - ineteresting stuff.

All the best,

Steve.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by netkid

Steve,

I tried co-reg and had a very hard time finding a hosting service that allows having these types of leads on my server and autoresponder. They are so paranoid about spam complaints.

Make sure you read the "terms of service" very carefully for any web host you are planning on "hanging" co-reg leads on. Just FYI.

The only thing I do now is generate my own leads through opt in boxes with AWEBER. (double opt-in)

Regards,

Bruce

Thanks Bruce.

I didn't realise there was such an issue with spam when you are considering using co-reg leads. Well worth being made aware of.

Steve.

[christopher cowley]

Originally Posted by SMP

Co-Registration - I'm just not sure.

I read conflicting reports about the merits (or otherwise) of using co-reg leads and I'm really interested to learn of any experience (good or bad) that you have had using these.

We all know that, for any subject relating to internet marketing, there are a thousand reports, ebooks, forum discussion threads and documents of one description or another which will give you both positive and negative opinions on what you should do and what you shouldn't. The beauty about WF is that there are so many successful business people who can impart their advice based on their own experience. I'm really hoping that is the case here.

I have never used co-reg leads but I am very interested to learn about whether I should or not. If I should, would anyone be kind enough to advise me on a source of leads that are proven to work.

Thanks in advance.

Steve.

Hi Steve,

The best results come from building real relationships in business based upon trust and friendship. The other methods are mostly without royalty and let you down when the pressure is on. It takes time and effort, but it is the stable way to go. It is not easy, but the most rewarding. When someone else builds something, it is usually to suit their own needs and not with you in mind. Regards and have sucess. Chris

[RonLaden]

Fabian,

Do you know how much I can expect to spend to test out these Co-reg companies you listed?

I want to test some out but don't have much to spend.

Thanks in advance.

[ASUService]

Hi Steve,
ALL of the info you have received so far is very very good advice. As Christopher mentioned a double optin list you build on your own is THE best way to go but it takes a lot of time.

Co-Reg can jumpstart things for you and if you decide to give it a try I recommend you work the list just as you would self built list ... use a lot of warm up time and be consistant with good info. The rewards will come.

That said ...

Many of my clients have used NitroList Builder and I have heard nothing but good feedback. No, I haven't tried them but the volume of good reports I've heard speaks for itself. Pricing varies based on what you want ... have a look here:

Opt-In Leads | Fresh Email Leads | CoReg Leads | Business Opportunity Leads | Home Business Leads

Hope this helps!

[quickregister]

Co reg leads work. I am making sales from them right now. However, if you send to old co reg leads that did not specifically opt in to YOUR ad then you will probably get spam complaints. The leads I use are 1 day old. I get them everyday about 6-800 of them. They have specifically opted into my business opportunity ad not a generic ad and they did so within 24 hours. These leads cost more money. Usually about 50 cents each. Also the offers really have to appeal to freebie or almost freebie types. Most people are subcribing to get something free and checking a little box on the site saying "oh yeah and by the way I am interested in a biz opp maybe." If you have a real high end offer this might not be the right audience. I had to change my approach and now I am making sales. If you are interested contact me and I can tell you where to get these type of leads.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by ASUService

Hi Steve,
ALL of the info you have received so far is very very good advice. As Christopher mentioned a double optin list you build on your own is THE best way to go but it takes a lot of time.

Co-Reg can jumpstart things for you and if you decide to give it a try I recommend you work the list just as you would self built list ... use a lot of warm up time and be consistant with good info. The rewards will come.

That said ...

Many of my clients have used NitroList Builder and I have heard nothing but good feedback. No, I haven't tried them but the volume of good reports I've heard speaks for itself.

Thanks for this Mike.

There's alot of useful information on the site - especially the FAQ section.

It's encouraging that a number of your customers have found some success using this provider so I'm going to give this some serious thought.

All the best.

Steve.

[rapidscc]

Hi SMP

First, Thanks for your post.

This has been a problem of mine too.

Last May I received thousands of email addresses with complete information and even the IP address they have when they signed-up. I knew that it came from some co-reg but I wouldn't know what site for sure because I got it as an add-on for signing-up on some program.

The marketer who gave it away is quite trustworthy but I haven't decided yet on using it up till now.

This is mainly because I was worried of the "YOU KNOW" thingee..

The answers in this thread gave me some courage to take action regarding this matter..

For several months now I feel I've been sitting on a gold mine but can't touch it for fear of being charged with you know.....

My add on question here is that is it enough to have the IP address used when the email address signed up and not know the exact site where they signed up..

Hope anybody can give input regarding this..

also Fabian thanks for the useful post..

Best wishes to everybody

Raul Omar Diaz

[SMP]

Originally Posted by quickregister

Co reg leads work. I am making sales from them right now. However, if you send to old co reg leads that did not specifically opt in to YOUR ad then you will probably get spam complaints. The leads I use are 1 day old. I get them everyday about 6-800 of them. They have specifically opted into my business opportunity ad not a generic ad and they did so within 24 hours. These leads cost more money. Usually about 50 cents each. Also the offers really have to appeal to freebie or almost freebie types. Most people are subcribing to get something free and checking a little box on the site saying "oh yeah and by the way I am interested in a biz opp maybe." If you have a real high end offer this might not be the right audience. I had to change my approach and now I am making sales. If you are interested contact me and I can tell you where to get these type of leads.

I'm really grateful for this. I'll send you a PM as I'm very interested to know where you source your leads from.

I hadn't considered the importance of the leads being so fresh but, if I can avoid having issues with spam, I'll definately give this some consideration.

Thanks again.

Steve.

[SMP]

Originally Posted by rapidscc

Hi SMP

First, Thanks for your post.

This has been a problem of mine too.

Last May I received thousands of email addresses with complete information and even the IP address they have when they signed-up. I knew that it came from some co-reg but I wouldn't know what site for sure because I got it as an add-on for signing-up on some program.

The marketer who gave it away is quite trustworthy but I haven't decided yet on using it up till now.

This is mainly because I was worried of the "YOU KNOW" thingee..

The answers in this thread gave me some courage to take action regarding this matter..

For several months now I feel I've been sitting on a gold mine but can't touch it for fear of being charged with you know.....

My add on question here is that is it enough to have the IP address used when the email address signed up and not know the exact site where they signed up..

Hope anybody can give input regarding this..

also Fabian thanks for the useful post..

Best wishes to everybody

Raul Omar Diaz

Hey Raul.

I've got some old Co Reg leads myself but I'm having second thoughts about using them after reading the post from QuickRegister. Maybe there's a way to get them to opt in to my squeeze page rather than market to them directly to avoid the issue of spam. I don't know.

I'm definately going to pursue this, though. There are enough marketers with positive experiences to encourage me to consider this properly.

Good luck with you own projects.

Steve.

[ASUService]

Originally Posted by SMP

Thanks for this Mike.

There's alot of useful information on the site - especially the FAQ section.

It's encouraging that a number of your customers have found some success using this provider so I'm going to give this some serious thought.

All the best.

Steve.

You're welcome Steve ... glad you found the info useful!

[Trent Brownrigg]

I bought a list of 100,000 from NitroListBuilder for $1000 several years ago and it wasn't worth it, in my opinion.

I had a highly targeted 7 day email course written for me by a well-known internet marketer at the time to send them. After that I did a broadcast to them once per week with more high quality free information, free gifts, and other freebies and sometimes an affiliate offer or something else that would make me money.

Sure I made some money from them here and there, but I don't think I ever even made it to the break even point. And I had to pay a bunch of money every month to use the autoresponder service that would allow me to import co-reg leads from NLB. After about 6 months or so I cancelled and the list was gone.

Of the 100,000 about 25,000 either opted out right away or were never working email addresses in the first place. Another 15,000 or so opted out over time. I think there were still 60,000 on it when I finally gave it up.

Now, to be fair, I was far from being a master email marketer at the time and still am not. It's just never been my thing. I'm sure someone with more experience in email marketing could have done better with the list.

[pmarz]

Great post. I would love to know where you get your co-reg leads from. I'm launching a nutritional supplement product and need to start generating leads. Thanks

-Paul