Health or Bodybuilding?

by maxolo
29 replies
Hello Warrios.

Soon I will start my first ever IM journey. At the begining I want to create an email list.
I just don't know what to choose a niche. I know good both of them and I am still thinking which can be more profitable.
- Health (Healthy Food, Stay Fit etc.)
- Bodybuilding.

Any opinion?
#bodybuilding #health
  • Profile picture of the author StevenFerns
    Both have vast markets and competition. How profitable they turn out would depend on how good the product is and how good you market it. I would go with the one you believe you have a better understanding of. All the best for your new journey
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    I would split the difference and look into nutrition for bodybuilders.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunybb
    Originally Posted by maxolo View Post

    Hello Warrios.

    Soon I will start my first ever IM journey. At the begining I want to create an email list.
    I just don't know what to choose a niche. I know good both of them and I am still thinking which can be more profitable.
    - Health (Healthy Food, Stay Fit etc.)
    - Bodybuilding.

    Any opinion?

    Hey there,


    You seem to have the drive and determination which is great! Here is my opinion to your post. For the start of your IM journey I feel that it would be important to help you understand a few things. Of course when we all start this online journey we want to make money.


    But this factor alone is the reason why so many people fail online. That's all they look at is the MONEY. They don't care about helping or inspiring people, they just want money. Now, for some people this works and they make a few sales. But you want a profitable long term business right???


    Think about the WHY! Why are you wanting to go into this niche? If you want to just sell a crappy ebook to people about how they can lose belly fat by cutting out carbs completely...then your taking the wrong approach.


    But if you want to inspire and actually help people reach a goal then this is a much better approach. Why are people looking to lose weight? They are emotionally upset about the looks they get in the grocery store....They need to lose weight to reduce their high blood pressure which is making them dizzy....They want to feel confident about going into a clothes store and buying clothes.


    Understand why your customer needs to lose weight etc and your be on the right track!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
      Stay with the health niche.

      The bodybuilding niche is very short lived. What I mean by that is; your customers are generally very young males who want to get big. They fall for any ad that promises steroid like gains. But, they hop on the next big promise next month too.

      They are not loyal to your brand and the demographic of males from 14 to 25 is basically broke, no money etc...

      The health niche stays with brands for decades.

      But, go deeper. You need a sub niche. Like Get your body back - super nutrition for post pregnant moms designed to get your pre-pregnancy body back.

      That's just an example.

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      • Profile picture of the author Gambino
        Originally Posted by Enfusia View Post

        Stay with the health niche.

        The bodybuilding niche is very short lived. What I mean by that is; your customers are generally very young males who want to get big. They fall for any ad that promises steroid like gains. But, they hop on the next big promise next month too.

        They are not loyal to your brand and the demographic of males from 14 to 25 is basically broke, no money etc...

        The health niche stays with brands for decades.

        But, go deeper. You need a sub niche. Like Get your body back - super nutrition for post pregnant moms designed to get your pre-pregnancy body back.

        That's just an example.

        Patrick
        I have to respectfully disagree with this. For everyone in the bodybuilding/build muscle niche that jumps from one muscle building program or supplement to another, there is someone in the health/lose weight/diet/eat a certain way niche that does the exact same thing.

        If you build your brand correctly, offer good products, bodybuilders are extremely loyal to brands. They're also extremely likely to see or hear someone using something in the gym (on on instagram) and go buy it themselves.

        Honestly, you can't go wrong either way. Both are billion dollar markets. Both will be around as long as people are here. You can find and carve out a niche in either. For me and many others, bodybuilding is incredibly profitable.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Hanney
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      Hey there,


      You seem to have the drive and determination which is great! Here is my opinion to your post. For the start of your IM journey I feel that it would be important to help you understand a few things. Of course when we all start this online journey we want to make money.


      But this factor alone is the reason why so many people fail online. That's all they look at is the MONEY. They don't care about helping or inspiring people, they just want money. Now, for some people this works and they make a few sales. But you want a profitable long term business right???


      Think about the WHY! Why are you wanting to go into this niche? If you want to just sell a crappy ebook to people about how they can lose belly fat by cutting out carbs completely...then your taking the wrong approach.


      But if you want to inspire and actually help people reach a goal then this is a much better approach. Why are people looking to lose weight? They are emotionally upset about the looks they get in the grocery store....They need to lose weight to reduce their high blood pressure which is making them dizzy....They want to feel confident about going into a clothes store and buying clothes.


      Understand why your customer needs to lose weight etc and your be on the right track!!
      Well Said Shaunybb! There are too many people that go out there just focused on the money! If that's what you primarily focus on then you are ultimately setting yourself up for failure from the get go.

      If you focus on providing value for you customers and you are passionate about what you are selling them to help provide solutions to their problems then you WILL undoubtedly experience far greater success in you IM and likely enjoy what you are doing a lot more too.

      Take a few days out and read the book by Simon Sinek, 'Start with Why'. Might help put things into perspective and best of luck!
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  • Try to start in general about health, would be more profitable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    I think you 'niche' down a little further.

    Say, bodybuilding for guys who want to get huge, or hard gainers, or just starting out, or in their 40s.

    Same for the health niche.

    I don't think there's much in it, toss a coin, see what happens and stick to whatever the coin decides. If you don't like the flip result, the choose the other option, the losing one.
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  • Profile picture of the author PHR
    Choose that where you know something...

    Especially when writing your eMail Follow-Ups you should be an "Authority" in that niche...

    That's important IMHO.

    Regards,
    Peter
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  • Profile picture of the author JenniferGiacoppo
    I agree with what most people are saying here in terms of be more specific with your niche. I would even go as far as finding out what is current in the fitness/health/body building. Find out what body builders are into at the moment and capitalize on that. Then you can dovetail into even more precision. But if you go with supply and demand in the beginning you will not fail. You just might need to do a little research-hope this helps Jennifer
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Chisel it down. Bodybuilding can be very profitable. Particularly if you drill it down to a highly specified Niche like 50 and over bodybuilders

      It may seem too narrow to pursue at first but sometimes these can produce the biggest spenders


      - Robert Andrew
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    Health niche certainly! And go deep for sub niches like: health supplements or healthy food substitutes. The sub niches can be worth for bodybuilding niche as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Popche
    If you go bodybuilding you can promote more items and if you go health you need to categorize because you cannot promote diabetes to people who are sick of something else. Go bodybuilding you have a wider range.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by shaunybb View Post

      Understand why your customer needs to lose weight etc and your be on the right track!!
      If you remember nothing else from the responses you got, remember this bit.

      Using Robert's example of "over 50 bodybuilders"...

      Do they want to tone up because they suddenly found themselves back in the dating pool?

      Did they get a medical scare, like a heart attack, and now they've seen the light?

      Something else?

      Your positioning and messaging is going to be different depending on the prospect's "why"...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jan Brzeski
    If I were you I would probably do a combination of both and narrow it down to the most profitable sub niche
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  • Profile picture of the author Asadullah72
    Originally Posted by maxolo View Post

    Hello Warrios.

    Soon I will start my first ever IM journey. At the begining I want to create an email list.
    I just don't know what to choose a niche. I know good both of them and I am still thinking which can be more profitable.
    - Health (Healthy Food, Stay Fit etc.)
    - Bodybuilding.

    Any opinion?
    Both have unlimited markets and rivalry. How gainful they turn out would rely on upon how great the item is and how great you showcase it. I would run with the one you trust you have a superior comprehension of. All the best for your new excursion
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    • Profile picture of the author maxolo
      Thanks all for your answers. It's a very big source of information and help.

      I've decided to start in the health niche. Why? Because my girlfriend is interested in it too. She is a model with good speaking and self-presentation skills(not bragging guys), very passioniate in healthy living, well being and health. I thought it will be a perfect opportunity to create the authority around her and do a lot of valuable videos for the list and blog.
      I don't want to stick just to one narrow subniche, as you told, like "acne treatments".

      My question is: Is it possible to focus on more aspects of "Health"? I mean like - healthy food, how to stay fit, how to care of your body, or how to remove unwanted hairs etc.?

      Is it possible in that case that I'll have a large e-mail list with very low optin and conversions? Or maybe from your experience you know, that if somebody is interested into "how to lose weight", there is a huge possibility that "healthy food" will interest him too?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    If it really came down to those 2 markets... I would say bodybuilding. "Health" is too broad, and some could argue that "bodybuilding" could be a sub-segment of "health". Just make sure your squeeze page is good, and your marketing funnel is on-point. There are a lot of good competitors in that niche. And make sure the product you sell them is good too.
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  • Profile picture of the author bojan92
    I think the most audience you will get if you adress healthy food. Because if you adress body building you will affect only the bodybuilders who in number they are not a lot.
    If you adress nutrition in bodybuilding then you will separate your group from bodybuilders to healthy bodybuilders even less people.
    Bottom line everyone eats , everyone wants to be healthy that is a good start point. You are addressing to everyone and you have good potential market. Then you can make separate guidelines or programs with diet for bodybuiders e.t.c. Well these are mine thoughts , hope it helped. )
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  • Profile picture of the author maxolo
    I think, nobody read my second post
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by maxolo View Post

      I think, nobody read my second post
      Welcome to Warrior Forum 2015.

      For many here, you're lucky they got beyond your subject line. After all, it's far more important for many to increase one's post count or show one's sig.

      [It's pretty obvious I don't need to boost my post count, and I've turned off my sig for this post to avoid the irony...]
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    • Profile picture of the author Gambino
      Originally Posted by maxolo View Post

      I think, nobody read my second post
      Yes, logically, someone who wants to lose weight will be interested in healthy foods and other related topics because it will help them achieve their goal... To lose weight. In my opinion, it is natural to cross promote products in different sub-niches to customers interested in the overall market and one of the sub-niches you talk about.
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      • Profile picture of the author maxolo
        Originally Posted by Gambino View Post

        Yes, logically, someone who wants to lose weight will be interested in healthy foods and other related topics because it will help them achieve their goal... To lose weight. In my opinion, it is natural to cross promote products in different sub-niches to customers interested in the overall market and one of the sub-niches you talk about.
        Thank you for your answer. That's an important point of view for me
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    Originally Posted by maxolo View Post

    Hello Warrios.

    Soon I will start my first ever IM journey. At the begining I want to create an email list.
    I just don't know what to choose a niche. I know good both of them and I am still thinking which can be more profitable.
    - Health (Healthy Food, Stay Fit etc.)
    - Bodybuilding.

    Any opinion?
    Weight loss is huge have you looked into that niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmcdonald909
    These kind of posts are pathetic.

    Your business....you should know exactly what niche you are going into. Where's your plan?

    Asking people on a forum "what shall i do..." So many like this here

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  • Profile picture of the author markmathson10
    Health and body building is not a same thing as most of the people consider it same.
    Zerona
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  • Profile picture of the author andrewkar
    Originally Posted by maxolo View Post

    Hello Warrios.

    Soon I will start my first ever IM journey. At the begining I want to create an email list.
    I just don't know what to choose a niche. I know good both of them and I am still thinking which can be more profitable.
    - Health (Healthy Food, Stay Fit etc.)
    - Bodybuilding.

    Any opinion?
    You should stop thinking about online business till you know your product and market. BTW, Berlin/Poland interesting location...

    So is Berlin now a part of Poland?
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  • Profile picture of the author ma247
    Three niche can be promoted lifetime:

    1. Health
    2. Wealth
    3. Relationship


    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author luketr
      These kind of posts are pathetic.
      Your business....you should know exactly what niche you are going into. Where's your plan?
      Asking people on a forum "what shall i do..." So many like this here
      Joker
      Despite the bluntness, I have to agree with this maxolo.

      Whilst I'm sure you have got some good advice from this thread so far:
      Originally Posted by Gambino View Post
      Yes, logically, someone who wants to lose weight will be interested in healthy foods and other related topics because it will help them achieve their goal... To lose weight. In my opinion, it is natural to cross promote products in different sub-niches to customers interested in the overall market and one of the sub-niches you talk about.
      ...the structure of your two questions means you need to do MUCH more research on IM generally, otherwise I fear you may end up wasting a lot of time (& money). Start with learning how to create a customer profile. Without that, everything falls apart: you can't select decent products & you wont create decent content.

      My question is: Is it possible to focus on more aspects of "Health"? I mean like - healthy food, how to stay fit, how to care of your body, or how to remove unwanted hairs etc.?

      Is it possible in that case that I'll have a large e-mail list with very low optin and conversions? Or maybe from your experience you know, that if somebody is interested into "how to lose weight", there is a huge possibility that "healthy food" will interest him too?
      This is something you need to know inside out and do research on. DON'T TAKE ANY WF reply as gospel for your business foundation. Its like asking "I'm thinking of a restaurant that sells a fusion of traditional chinese and german food; will it interest people that all like food?" An exaggerated example I know, but the point is: its not just the concepts of "how to loose weight" & "healthy food" you need to consider, its the actual products and whether they fit the customer profile your website is aimed at.

      Think about the "main" affiliate product, as it were, that you are actually going to be marketing and answer the following: who is this targeted at? how old are they? what's a normal day for them like? how is this going to help them? what other products could compliment this etc..

      Lastly, don't expect everything to convert equally and become an income stream. I would have thought "removing unwanted hairs" is going to be more of a traffic generating post/content piece which may make some affiliate sales for related products (but the commissions are going to be piss poor at a guess anyway right?)
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