May I use short famous people quotes in my kindle book?

by arteg
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May I use short famous people quotes in my kindle book without asking for permission? For example:

"Every child is an artist until he's told he's not an artist." - John Lennon

I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.
Michael Jordan
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  • Profile picture of the author time4vps
    You need to get permission to use quotes in your writing.

    So, when do you need permission to quote song lyrics or poems or excerpts from novels in your writing? The answer is: If quoting without permission results in copyright infringement, then you need to get permission.

    You must credit the source, even if you plan to use only one or two lines of a song or poem.

    But keep in mind that acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material is not a substitute for acquiring permission from the copyright owner.
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    • Profile picture of the author agmccall
      Originally Posted by time4vps View Post

      You need to get permission to use quotes in your writing.

      So, when do you need permission to quote song lyrics or poems or excerpts from novels in your writing? The answer is: If quoting without permission results in copyright infringement, then you need to get permission.

      You must credit the source, even if you plan to use only one or two lines of a song or poem.

      But keep in mind that acknowledging the source of the copyrighted material is not a substitute for acquiring permission from the copyright owner.
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      This is all wrong.

      It is ok to quote one liners like that as long as you do not over do it and it is put into proper context and you include the persons name that made the quote.

      Keep in mind you can not quote entire chapters of a book or entire songs, but one liners are fine

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      • Profile picture of the author Steve L
        Originally Posted by agmccall View Post


        This is all wrong.

        It is ok to quote one liners like that as long as you do not over do it and it is put into proper context and you include the persons name that made the quote.

        Keep in mind you can not quote entire chapters of a book or entire songs, but one liners are fine

        al
        This is exactly how I've always gone about it, and it's never been a problem.
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      • Profile picture of the author megamind22
        Originally Posted by agmccall View Post


        This is all wrong.

        It is ok to quote one liners like that as long as you do not over do it and it is put into proper context and you include the persons name that made the quote.

        Keep in mind you can not quote entire chapters of a book or entire songs, but one liners are fine

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        Exactly. You couldnt have said it any better.
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  • I would quote some taller people also.

    They sometimes say good stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    It's also okay to quote what anyone said in public. This is different than quoting a piece of work they wrote.

    For example if John Lennon said in an interview" "I quite like being the walrus" that is fine to quote as it is a public statement on the record.

    But If he sings "I am the walrus" in a song that is part of a copyright work and there are restrictions on how you can reproduce the words.

    And if he wrote in an autobiography: "My time as the walrus was a dark period in my musical career". Again, that is part of a copyright work and there are restrictions on how you can reproduce the content.

    Generally when you are talking "famous quotes" like you see on some quotation websites, those short missives, attributed sayings and public declarations can be used as attributed quotations without copyright infringement.

    Also, if the works have passed into the public domain like Shakespeare or Edgar Allen Poe, any of their writing is fair game.
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  • Profile picture of the author trip3980
    Originally Posted by arteg View Post

    May I use short famous people quotes in my kindle book without asking for permission? For example:

    "Every child is an artist until he's told he's not an artist." - John Lennon

    I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.
    Michael Jordan

    Here is the problem. You can use short famous people in your book under these conditions. Is the content you have your own. IE who took the picture. If someone else did then you need that persons permission, the one who took the photo. Also if you took the photo was it in a public place If so then yes. If you took the the photo with out the persons permission on private property then no. If you are taking a picture and its not in public property and you are making money on his likeness without compensation then you also have problems.

    If the book is about "Documenting" little people or if the little people where part of the documentation process then yes because that falls under freedom of speech.

    Also be aware of defamation of character. IE does the bad image hurt the persons reputation or future of doing business and is this to harm the individual. IF not then your fine.

    However if its a documentary and you plan to expose said little person for said bad act to inform the public then you are in the right because this falls under free speech.

    While I hate to say it most lawyers have trouble with this topic and can get this sort of thing wrong. At the end of the day its up to the jury to decide the fate and the constitution.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Trip,

      You'd better reread the original post . . . it has nothing to do with photos and short people. Maybe you're just having a bad day.

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      Originally Posted by trip3980 View Post

      Here is the problem. You can use short famous people in your book under these conditions. Is the content you have your own. IE who took the picture. If someone else did then you need that persons permission, the one who took the photo. Also if you took the photo was it in a public place If so then yes. If you took the the photo with out the persons permission on private property then no. If you are taking a picture and its not in public property and you are making money on his likeness without compensation then you also have problems.

      If the book is about "Documenting" little people or if the little people where part of the documentation process then yes because that falls under freedom of speech.

      Also be aware of defamation of character. IE does the bad image hurt the persons reputation or future of doing business and is this to harm the individual. IF not then your fine.

      However if its a documentary and you plan to expose said little person for said bad act to inform the public then you are in the right because this falls under free speech.

      While I hate to say it most lawyers have trouble with this topic and can get this sort of thing wrong. At the end of the day its up to the jury to decide the fate and the constitution.
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      • Profile picture of the author trip3980
        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

        Trip,

        You'd better reread the original post . . . it has nothing to do with photos and short people. Maybe you're just having a bad day.

        Steve
        HAHAHA yes I am having a bad day and I just realized what I did lol. As for quotes you can quote anyone. Just give them the proper citations for saying it. How long the quote is is dependent on whether it is plagiarism or not. the rule of thumb is as long as your not directly making money off a quote if taken in written forum then your ok. Tho I have seen books that have taken a collection of quotes and put them together to make money. But everything is subject to interpretation.
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        • Profile picture of the author H-D-Hill
          You mean short famous people like Napoleon, Gary Coleman, Danny Devito or the Pit Boss?
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          • Profile picture of the author trip3980
            Originally Posted by H-D-Hill View Post

            You mean short famous people like Napoleon, Gary Coleman, Danny Devito or the Pit Boss?
            Does napoleon even count as a little person? I mean sure he wasn't tall but he was only 5' 6".
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          • Profile picture of the author arteg
            Originally Posted by H-D-Hill View Post

            You mean short famous people like Napoleon, Gary Coleman, Danny Devito or the Pit Boss?
            I am sorry, English is not my native language. I didn't mean short people, but short quotes
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            • Profile picture of the author writeaway
              Originally Posted by arteg View Post

              I am sorry, English is not my native language. I didn't mean short people, but short quotes
              If you are going to be using them for Facebook traffic (quote pictures sent out by FB pages), you should be fine if you use many quotes from many different people.

              Now... if you used just ONE book and chopped the book's text into quotes, you might get into problems.

              It would be a harder issue to decide if the book in question is a quotations book.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vendzilla
    When the work is in the public domain. This isn't always a simple matter to determine, but any work published before 1923 is in the public domain. Some works published after 1923 are also in the public domain.

    When simply mentioning the title or author of a work. You do not need permission to mention the title of someone's work. It's like citing a fact.

    When you are stating unadorned facts. If you copy a list of the 50 states in the United States, you are not infringing on anyone's copyright. Those are unadorned facts.

    When you are linking to something. Linking does not require permission.

    When the work is licensed under Creative Commons. If this is the case, you should see this prominently declared on the work itself. For instance, the book Mediactive is licensed under Creative Commons, and so are many sites and blogs.

    When you abide by fair use guidelines. If you're only quoting a few lines from a full-length book, you are likely within fair use guidelines, and do not need to seek permission. BUT this is a gray area.
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  • Profile picture of the author rjd1265
    If you really want to be safe make a source page at the end that gives credit to the quotes to the correct individual.

    Unless the quotes are copyrighted you should be 100% safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author timwal
    Originally Posted by arteg View Post

    May I use short famous people quotes in my kindle book without asking for permission? For example:

    "Every child is an artist until he's told he's not an artist." - John Lennon

    I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed.
    Michael Jordan


    Be creative and original. Even if you have to use quotes, be careful how you use them so you don't get your readers bored.
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    • Profile picture of the author quadagon
      Originally Posted by Vendzilla View Post

      When the work is in the public domain. This isn't always a simple matter to determine, but any work published before 1923 is in the public domain. Some works published after 1923 are also in the public domain.
      Public domain is a legal minefield. There are some important things to note.

      When work goes into the public domain is different for different countries.

      Sometimes a first edition can be public domain whilst subsequent ones aren't

      Even when things seemingly of there can be issues. Until recently you couldn't use Sherlock Holmes without permission from the Holmes estate.

      None of these probably apply to the op but its worth stating.

      When you abide by fair use guidelines. If you're only quoting a few lines from a full-length book, you are likely within fair use guidelines, and do not need to seek permission. BUT this is a gray area.
      Again fair use isn't a universal law and is judged on a case by case business at court. In fair use it goes beyond amounts used.

      Originally Posted by rjd1265 View Post

      If you really want to be safe make a source page at the end that gives credit to the quotes to the correct individual.

      Unless the quotes are copyrighted you should be 100% safe.
      Making a source page doesn't give carte blanche for using other people's work.

      Generally I would always advise take your finished product to a specialist lawyer who can give specific advice to you (they'll also have indemnity insurance).

      I know that's probably not what you want to hear but the other alternative is that you will pick and choose which replies you like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Unise
    No matter what answer you get here you should always get proper legal guidance.
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  • Profile picture of the author aznsparks
    If you use some famous quote that Einstein said in order to explain something, go right ahead. As long as you use general copyright common-sense you should be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    I suggest you read the FAIR USE exception to US copyright law.

    here's a solid source: What Is Fair Use? - Copyright Overview by Rich Stim - Stanford Copyright and Fair Use Center
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