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Is Google Lying?

by Braznyc
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Adsense:
"Up to X% predicted increase in weekly earnings" if you add ads from "this category".


And after months you see no increase.
#google #lying
  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    "up to"


    No they aren't lying. You aren't reading the small print.
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  • Profile picture of the author Synnuh
    Are their lips moving?
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  • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
    Up to "zero" increase, that's what I got after allowing "political" and "religious" etc ads on my videos.

    I'm sure Google got the money from the companies using my videos to advertise.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmberJB
    Google makes most of its money from advertising. They want their advertisers to make money on their ads, and their adsense-enabled websites to make money from adsense. Why would they lie to advertisers and adsense users? They WANT you to make money. If you don't make money, you don't come back. If you don't come back, Google doesn't make any money from you.

    Of course not everyone will make money. But I suspect Google is doing what it can to help you out. If you are not making money, it probably isn't Google lying. Instead, maybe you are allowing the wrong type of ads on your site, because of the type of site you have, you perhaps need a different type of ad. Or your content turns people away. Or a number of other issues.
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    • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
      Originally Posted by AmberJB View Post

      Google makes most of its money from advertising. They want their advertisers to make money on their ads, and their adsense-enabled websites to make money from adsense. Why would they lie to advertisers and adsense users? They WANT you to make money. If you don't make money, you don't come back. If you don't come back, Google doesn't make any money from you.

      Of course not everyone will make money. But I suspect Google is doing what it can to help you out. If you are not making money, it probably isn't Google lying. Instead, maybe you are allowing the wrong type of ads on your site, because of the type of site you have, you perhaps need a different type of ad. Or your content turns people away. Or a number of other issues.

      If Google says if you allow this or that kind of ads, you will get an increase up to 20%... and you see no increase that's not normal.... Not even 5% of increase.

      Don't you think that a company that deals with "numbers" 24/7 should know better?
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      • Profile picture of the author onSubie
        Originally Posted by Braznyc View Post

        Don't you think that a company that deals with "numbers" 24/7 should know better?

        Well, if you create AdSense websites, then your company (or business) is a company that "deals with numbers".

        So don't you think you should know, based on your traffic, market and click-throughs if the changes would help you or hurt you? I mean, if your traffic does not seem suitable to their suggestions then you probably shouldn't follow them.

        Or if you do, keep a close eye on your stats to see the impact of any changes so you can undo anything that doesn't work.

        As someone said earlier, if you make less money then Google makes less money so they have little incentive to reduce your earnings.

        Clearly some websites benefitted from the change but not all will. That's why they use the caveat "up to X%".
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        • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
          Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

          Well, if you create AdSense websites, then your company (or business) is a company that "deals with numbers".

          So don't you think you should know, based on your traffic, market and click-throughs if the changes would help you or hurt you? I mean, if your traffic does not seem suitable to their suggestions then you probably shouldn't follow them.

          Wrong. I didn't say I was going to get an increase up to x%... Google said it.
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          • Profile picture of the author onSubie
            Originally Posted by Braznyc View Post

            Wrong. I didn't say I was going to get an increase up to x%... Google said it.

            Yes, "up to".

            All I'm saying is you have to know your business and your numbers.

            If you don't think your traffic and audience is going to respond to religious and political ads, then don't add them.

            Google is offering you a new stream of targeted ads for "religious" and "political".

            If you have a religious or political channel or site, these could lead to more clicks for you. If your site or channel is not religious or political, I doubt you would see a benefit.

            Personally, I think political and religious keywords probably have very low CPC. So even with more clicks, you may not see more revenue.

            But it is your business. You have to analyze your own traffic, stats and results to see what is happening.

            Did you get more clicks but less revenue?
            The same clicks and the same revenue?
            The same clicks and less revenue?

            This is the kind of analysis you need to do on a regular basis to keep up with your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex The Lion
    It's just a matter of testing, Google can't know for sure before hand, test and if you see no results, you can always remove the categories.
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    • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
      Originally Posted by Alex The Lion View Post

      It's just a matter of testing, Google can't know for sure before hand, test and if you see no results, you can always remove the categories.

      Their mistakes always work against the others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
    Up to... Starting from "zero".. and if that's what you get that's fine...I see.

    And guess what: Google got money... Not "zero dollars" from the ads I had on my videos.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
      You should probably pay close attention to a) your numbers b) testing c) more tesing d) watch successful merketers who are in the same niche as you... what are their marketing strategies?

      NB. Provide content/info for Humans, but adhere to Google's rules. Search engines won't buy your products, Humans will
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Originally Posted by Braznyc View Post

      And guess what: Google got money... Not "zero dollars" from the ads I had on my videos.
      Not likely. They only get paid if those ads got clicked, and they share a percentage of that revenue with you. That is the business model.

      If you received nothing from displaying those ads... it's because they didn't, either.
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  • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
    Dear you need to read more Carefully they are writing UP TO it means that it can be 2% or even 50% a lot depends on your business how it converts, you need to change something and mainly EXPERIMENT with your site, do some research, when I started at the begining there werent any sales too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
      Originally Posted by luciesmazanska View Post

      Dear you need to read more Carefully they are writing UP TO it means that it can be 2% or even 50% a lot depends on your business how it converts, you need to change something and mainly EXPERIMENT with your site, do some research, when I started at the begining there werent any sales too.
      You didn't read my post. UP TO "nothing" was what I got. There was not an increase.

      You folks keep repeating that part of "up to" without reading my posts.

      It was not about an experiment: it was suggested by Google. Google knew what I had and what companies were looking for.


      And this is the message:


      "Up to 100% predicted increase in weekly earnings.

      You're currently blocking the following sensitive category of ads: "Religion". Maximize your revenue by allowing these ads to appear on all of your sites. You can change your blocking options at any time by visiting your Allow & block ads tab."
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      • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
        Originally Posted by Braznyc View Post

        You didn't read my post. UP TO "nothing" was what I got.
        NO... you didn't read/understand the original message from Google.

        "Up to X%" means any amount from 0... UP TO X.

        In other words, there is no guarantee.
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        • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
          Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

          NO... you didn't read/understand the original message from Google.

          "Up to X%" means any amount from 0... UP TO X.

          In other words, there is no guarantee.

          Zero is not an "increase".. That word is used by Google.


          Is zero an increase in your world?
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          • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
            Originally Posted by Braznyc View Post

            Zero is not an "increase".. That word is used by Google.
            They also used the word "predicted".


            Is zero an increase in your world?
            Yes... and to anyone else who understands math. An increase of 0% is EXACTLY what you experienced.
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            • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
              Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post




              Yes... and to anyone else who understands math. An increase of 0% is EXACTLY what you experienced.

              That's not your case:


              Increase

              noun
              5.
              growth or augmentation in numbers, size, strength, quality, etc.:
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  • Profile picture of the author Braznyc
    In case you didn't understand yet:

    Google Adsense:

    "What’s this recommendation?
    We’ve noticed that you’re currently blocking a sensitive ad category at the product level. We’ve run a simulation on your traffic and we predict that you’ll see an increase in your earnings if you allow this sensitive category of ads to appear on all of your sites. To implement this recommendation, click Make this change and we’ll automatically update your settings to allow ads from this sensitive..."


    Got it now?
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    • Profile picture of the author onSubie
      Originally Posted by Braznyc View Post

      Got it now?
      Got what? That doesn't add anything to your original post.

      Google recommended a change. They predicted an increase. You didn't see an increase. Happens all the time.

      It's not worth the repeated complaining after multiple explanations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Your title question is: Is Google Lying?

    Google is not lying. They are "predicting" based on a "simulation of your traffic".

    They predicted wrong. Simple as that, imo.

    The Google recommendation sounds like a weather forecast. Weather forecasting doesn't always pan out either, but it doesn't mean your local weatherman is trying to pull a cruel joke on you when he predicts clear skies and instead you get hit with a thunderstorm at your picnic.

    Google predicted. You tried it. It didn't work out. So don't make changes according to Google predictions anymore.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    That does not surprise me. I hate sad sense. Get use to near zero earnings. Lots of hard work to make a few pennies. Frankly, you are better off as an affiliate for amazon. BTW, I just got an e-mail from goog. It was asking me to become an affiliate for their play store apps. Ah yes, I will see how this turns out and tell you. My prediction is that they will find all kinds of excuses. Why should they pay me. After all, I will be promoting games. Maybe, they will pay me with play money. Do you remember amazon coins?

    BTW, you tube red is crushing earnings. I do not know what is going on. I did sign up. Wonder if it is just me. Really do hope so, Some how, I do not think so. It is making me see RED!
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