Article Submission Services - What Do You Choose?

[Beau]

Hi All...
Just wondering your thoughts on the best Article Submission service to go with. I've found these:

SubmitYOURArticle.com - Features
Article Submission Service - Free Articles
Articles Submission Service
Article Submission Service | Article Distribution Service
Article Submission Service | Article Distribution Service - Products and Services

But would appreciate your thoughts on what's the best service to use.

:-) Beaumont

[dave147]

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[sophieperry]

There are several things which can be choose for the article submission services. While we are using these services it will come a massive backlinks. Here all services which you can share is best.

[Allen Graves]

None of them are good anymore because you are doing it for a ton of backlinks, right?

Are you unaware that Google recently devalued links from article directories?

With the dozens/hundreds of crap directories these programs submit to - that get no traffic (even less now after Panda) - you're frankly wasting your time and money.

Go get a free one and submit to the few that are worth it. It will take a little time to set up, but it'll save you a lot of time in the long run.

I don't mean to piss off those who own or sell the software or run the bottom-feeding article directories, but that's just how it is. Things change, there's nothing any of us can do about it.

Allen

[leo2kwan]

I choose Unique Article Wizard. This service will submit your article to article directories and blog networks

[annasusmiles]

Hi Allen,

Which article directories are actually worthwhile to submit to now?
I've been trying to figure that out?!

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Beau

Just wondering your thoughts on the best Article Submission service to go with.

However you look at it, Beau, it's a waste of time and money.

All you need to do is read Allen's post above (#4) - end of story.

Seriously.

This isn't something you'll find any article marketers doing. You'll find "article directory marketers" doing it, but that isn't a viable business model, and within a year or so they either drop out of the business or come back and start a thread under the title "Article Marketing Doesn't Work Any More" (you must have noticed 100 of those threads here?) because, of course, for them, it truly doesn't.

Article directory backlinks aren't worth anything "in real terms". They're non-context-relevant, PR-0 backlinks (regardless of the page-rank of the directories' home pages, which isn't where your articles are published anyway). You'll typically need something between 50,000 and 100,000 of them (no, I'm not exaggerating) to give you the link-juice equivalent to one relevant authority-site backlink.

This just isn't worth talking about any more; it really isn't.

It's a subject loved by people selling "spinning software" and "spinning services" and "submission services" and "submission software". It has close-to-zero use or relevance to anyone else, in the real world of internet marketing.

Originally Posted by Beau

But would appreciate your thoughts on what's the best service to use.

There isn't a best service to use. It's all nonsense and you can't profit by paying for it. If you must try it, use a free one until you learn from your own experience that it's really not what you needed. What's needed here is a "Big Strategic Rethink" of your business-model, and sooner rather than later. Try to avoid "becoming a statistic"?

Successful, professional article marketers are using article directories as part of our business model, but we're not using them primarily for either directory traffic or for directory backlinks: there's no real value to that. And we're certainly not using "submission services".

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

With the dozens/hundreds of crap directories these programs submit to - that get no traffic (even less now after Panda) - you're frankly wasting your time and money.

Please excuse my being a little more blunt and a little less tactful than Allen above, but his polite understatement here tells the whole story.

[MarketItAll]

I actually use someone here in the forum that charges $35 per article - but it's a couple month process of submitting, spinning and marketing tht gets tons of great links over time. It's not too much and it's done over a long time period which is what I like.

[akhtar]

Hey, where can i get my article spun and sumbitted please let me know so i can get it done thanks

[tonnele]

The best article submission service is one that offers superior quality and attention and a service that over delivers.

[Kurt]

I can't recommend a service for you, but here's a suggestion...We can at least eliminate the financial risk mentioned above. Get the free 5 day trial of Article Marketing Robot:
Download | Article Marketing | Article Submission | Article Marketing Robot


It's only free for 5 days, so do some prep and make sure you have 10 good, solid quality articles ready to go before downloading the trial.

You'll need to take some time and learn:
1 Account creation
2 Spinning
3 Submitting

Create two accounts with each directory.

Create a very good article (without spinning it) and add some HTML anchor links in the body of your articles. Don't over-do it, 1-2 links is enough. Submit this page to all the directories using your first set of accounts.

Wait a day or two...This is tough on the 5 day trial, but it can take a while for webmasters to approve submitted articles. After you submit a campaign, AMR will create a "live links" report with the URLs of all of your approved articles.

Now, remember we added html links to the body of the article? Most directories will reject it because of this, but not all. Next, select all the directories that approved your article. These are your directories that allow contextual links, which is very good, from an SEO point of view.

So now you have your "allow links" directories list. Take the others and make a "no links" list, which will likely be much bigger.

People think you need to submit every article to every account. Instead, log into your SECOND accounts and submit each remaining article to only about 100-200 different "no links" directories each. It's OK if some directories are submitted to more than once, you just want a good over-all variety.

We're hoping about 50 articles will stick and be approved and that each article will have a very different "IP footprint" than all the other footprints.

In most cases, each campaign will give you about 100 links (50 x 2 links per page). Make sure you point some of these 100 links to your first "links OK" article. The reason is that the first articles allow contextual links. We want to point links towards our resources that allow us the most links and the most control over those links.

In other words, add some links from your "no contextual articles" to your "links OK" article. This not only points the link juice to pages with more SEO benefits for you, it also makes sure you're linking one good article to a different good one. Linking to doop content is a no-no. Plus, you can get more than two links on in an article from the "links ok" directories.

Spinning: My SEO philosophy is that "one or the other" is usually wrong, and the best solution is often "both". By this, I mean we have some people saying to spin and others saying not to.


So mix it up:

• Don't spin 5 articles of your 10 articles. Just submit as is.
• Do a "gentle" spin on 3 articles, focusing on just mixing in different keywords. A goal here is to add a little keyword variety to your articles and anchor text.
• Do a full spin on two articles. AMR has a pretty decent built in spinner. But here's another feature: AMR will spin the articles before submitting.

After spinning, find the folder of spun articles. You can open them in any text editor. Figure out the syntax/format, it's pretty easy.

Open up the first article and look for mistakes. Chances many mistakes are repeated across multiple articles. Using a multi-file search and replace, start fixing the mistakes you come across.

The 80/20 rule really comes into play here...You don't need to open every article to have a great impact on the quality. Open 12-15 articles and fixing them will correct many mistakes across the rest of the other articles.

This can have a profound impact on the quality of the end result and only takes about an hour or two. Also, I use my Tuelz software to really mix things up as I fix files, such as spinning the "fixes".

And you can go through some of the articles and add paragraphs and sentences, delete others, rearrange yet others, etc, to give the pages even more variety.

Again, half of our pages we don't spin and 3 others we barely spin. The logic for this is, it's simply "easier". Whenever you are testing something, ALWAYS give the easiest way(s) the best test, if that method is reasonable.

For the best affect you'll probably need to get some bookmarks and profile links to the articles. You don't want or need a lot. Many newbs feel you need to blast 1000 bookmarks to every article. Instead, create accounts at 500 different accounts using Bookmarking Demon and try to get 20-35 bookmarks to as many articles from your AMR "Live Links" lists as possible. Add another Fiverr linking gig or two...

This is a low-risk/high reward plan for many. Give this a good test yourself and see what works for you.

(The next step is to take these 10 articles, make them into chunks, mix and match them and create tons of web properties with them...But that's a story for another website. )

[myob]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

None of them are good anymore because you are doing it for a ton of backlinks, right?

Are you unaware that Google recently devalued links from article directories?

With the dozens/hundreds of crap directories these programs submit to - that get no traffic (even less now after Panda) - you're frankly wasting your time and money.

Go get a free one and submit to the few that are worth it. It will take a little time to set up, but it'll save you a lot of time in the long run.

I don't mean to piss off those who own or sell the software or run the bottom-feeding article directories, but that's just how it is. Things change, there's nothing any of us can do about it.

Allen

I am in some of the toughest and most competitive niches and most of my sales have always come, not from article directory traffic, but rather from articles syndicated in targeted ezine publishers and high PR authority websites and blogs. Over the last two months, all of my niche websites have been suddenly surging in the SERPS. Most of them jumping in ranking over thousands of pages at a time. How did this happen?

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Kurt

Create two accounts with each directory.

This "advice" is clearly contrary to the terms of service of many article directories (and can rightly and understandably get you banned, on discovery - as many here can attest to).

Whatever you're posting/submitting, it's important always to read carefully the TOS of anyone else's sites on which you're posting/submitting.

[celente]

fastsubmit articles....do not use them. That guys is rude and does not do what he says. Yes a real scammer.

Just saying people. Buyer BEWARE!

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

This "advice" is clearly contrary to the terms of service of many article directories (and can rightly and understandably get you banned, on discovery - as many here can attest to).

Whatever you're posting/submitting, it's important always to read carefully the TOS of anyone else's sites on which you're posting/submitting.

That's another HUGE issue I have, Alexa. "Do anything you want to and damn the other person's site you're about to spam!"

I hate that attitude. It's selfish, rude and it has cost me hundreds of hours of tedious BS work over the years.

Yes, it goes with the territory - but it shouldn't.

Allen

[Kurt]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

This "advice" is clearly contrary to the terms of service of many article directories (and can rightly and understandably get you banned, on discovery - as many here can attest to).

Whatever you're posting/submitting, it's important always to read carefully the TOS of anyone else's sites on which you're posting/submitting.

Fair enough, but it seems you don't have a problem with the effectiveness of the tactics, only the fact that setting up a second account MAY be against the TOS of Some sites? If they don't want my good quality content, then they can ban me, and it's their right. Never happened, as there are any number of precautions, the first being adding good articles.

But the entire technique can also be done with a single account and the only motivation for two accounts is an organizational one, not a strategic one, to help make sure one doesn't link to the same article.

So now we have your big concern out of the way, let's pretend that no one ever opens a second account. I detailed a very powerful way of doing SEO. Have you tried it? Don't you like how I isolated article directories that allow anchor text? Pretty good for SEO, huh?

I know how concerned you are (wrongly) over article directory pages not being "contextual"..I just showed you how to get contextual links...I know you're also (wrongly) concerned about article directory pages having "0" PageRank. Another point of my post above is that PR of that page is actually in the SEOer's control. Anyone can pump PR to those pages.

Also, what about how I "fix" spun articles before submitting them? Have you seen that technique before? Freelance writers who use article directories for marketing should like that technique...And it's not even a new one.

BTW, I just checked an old forum of mine...I first referred to "fixer files" in 2006, which was BEFORE the term "spinning" was even used . So I was not only fixing "spun" content before "spinners" were invented by others, I was also instructing my bombers to "fix" their "spun" content 5 years ago.

So that's 3 major concerns of Alexa's about using article marketing for SEO all fixed in one post: Article directory page PR, context and correcting the obvious mistakes made by spinning...

[skibbz]

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

This "advice" is clearly contrary to the terms of service of many article directories (and can rightly and understandably get you banned, on discovery - as many here can attest to).

Whatever you're posting/submitting, it's important always to read carefully the TOS of anyone else's sites on which you're posting/submitting.

what is all this crap about article directories dying? and google demoting article directory links?

article marketing is here to stay...the only thing people need to do is stop abusing it with all this spam

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by Allen Graves

That's another HUGE issue I have, Alexa. "Do anything you want to and damn the other person's site you're about to spam!"

I hate that attitude. It's selfish, rude and it has cost me hundreds of hours of tedious BS work over the years.

Sure, of course.

These people are also directly damaging your business and mine with their misguided crap and cavalier attitude to others' rights, because they're the ones causing all the understandable ill-will toward "internet marketers".

And they're also the ones indirectly responsible for the ever-tightening regulatory and legal presence, of course.

"Spin and spam" ...

Believe me: if I could somehow magically get these ill-informed, selfish, futile people out of the industry, I wouldn't hesitate. Meanwhile, Google is doing its best to see them off, even if there's a long way to go.

[DireStraits]

Originally Posted by Kurt

Never happened, as there are any number of precautions, the first being adding good articles.

Nothing has happened until it has happened, Kurt. But that doesn't mean that when it finally does, you're not going to endure significant losses.

The bottom line is that you should read the ToS of article directories. If you choose to break them, you'd better ensure that you're effectively covering your rear by using proxies and/or whatever else, because you don't want all your work to go to waste, do you?

And believe me, having done them a favour by providing decent articles doesn't always guarantee you'll be spared from any "punishment", however lucky you've been so far. I've seen fairly prolific EZA authors have all of their articles deleted, and their account terminated, when it came to light that they'd been breaking rules which, on the surface, "didn't really seem that important/meaningful".

Originally Posted by Kurt

So now we have your big concern out of the way, let's pretend that no one ever opens a second account. I detailed a very powerful way of doing SEO. Have you tried it? Don't you like how I isolated article directories that allow anchor text? Pretty good for SEO, huh?

Shame, though, that the backlinks are still on new pages with no measurable PageRank, and as such they're still very weak in comparison to backlinks from established pages which have already amassed a measurable PageRank.

And despite how easy you may find it, what's the point in boosting the PR of an article directory page when you could instead fire those same links at a page on your own site, and directly increase its own PR and rankings in the SERPs?

Originally Posted by Kurt

I know how concerned you are (wrongly) over article directory pages not being "contextual"..I just showed you how to get contextual links...I know you're also (wrongly) concerned about article directory pages having "0" PageRank. Another point of my post above is that PR of that page is actually in the SEOer's control. Anyone can pump PR to those pages.

There is some ongoing debate about what "context-relevance" is, and how deep it goes.

Some believe context relevance is determined only by anchor-text one uses in their backlinks. Others believe it's done on a page-by-page basis (i.e., a backlink from a one-off blog post about the royal wedding, on a blog normally about the african rainforest, would still present a "context-relevant" backlinking opportunity" for anything to do with weddings, royalty, or royal weddings). Others believe that context-relevance is determined on a site-wide basis, not solely on a page-by-page basis.

What do I believe? I believe, from personal experience, that it's all three of these and that each scenario, from first to third, carries progressively more topical weight/relevance and thus a higher link-value.

Preferably, of course, you'd have a properly anchored backlink on a page whose content is highly relevant, on a site that tailors to this specific subject-matter. That'd be the most ideal scenario.

Sites like EzineArticles were/are perceived to be "generic authority sites", but it really isn't so in my opinion and experience. They used to rank fairly well for so much stuff only because the site's content catered for so many different topics to begin with. I'm not saying there's no such thing as "generic authority" - just that it's in a different (lower) league to that which is thematic/topical.

But let us, for arguments sake, pretend that NASA.gov and EzineArticles.com were both the same PR and all the rest. Do you think EzineArticles would be able to attain, more easily than NASA (and without additional backlinks built to that specific page), higher rankings for an article to do with space exploration, rocket science or moon landings?

Probably not.

NASA's site has already established thematic relevance for all things to do with space exploration and related subjects. This immediately gives it a boost, and this relevance is channelled through their outgoing links.

"Authority" and relevance, it seems, are not strictly generic. And, for this reason, outgoing links from those sites that are highly relevant to a given topic carry much more weight (regardless of PageRank, etc) to pages of a same or a similar subject.

That is both my theory, and what I've experienced (as best as I can tell, of course - these things, by nature, are very tough to test accurately).

And on the basis of that, I can't say that I think you've proved (or disproved) anything too significant (or at all, really) in your post.

[traficmaster]

i only used the first two on your list,only had good experience with em

[Oneal Degrassi]

Originally Posted by Kurt

If you bothered to read my entire post...

Yea, about that.

Dude, I was falling asleep before I even got to the bullet points.

[blalock61]

What about Bill Platt's service:

Article Marketing Services: Article Distribution Services from The Phantom Writers Since 2001

[Allen Graves]

Originally Posted by Oneal Degrassi

Yea, about that.

Dude, I was falling asleep before I even got to the bullet points.

LOL - that made me laugh.

But seriously, what percentage of people who are looking for spinners are going to do all of that - much less even spend the time to read it.

Oh, and as for the comment about trying to save my article directory...I was just going to let that go, but I feel frisky today.

First, I've had several of them for years, not just one, and they are doing better than ever - check out my WF blog. Secondly, I have only stated the facts as proposed by a public Google entity (which is scrutinized by the U.S. S.E.C.). It looks like you are the one trying to salvage something. And third, you keep talking about article marketing for SEO. Tell me what SEO benefits you could possibly get from spinning articles and submitting them to articles directories.

Allen

p.s. @blalock61 - I definitely recommend Bill's service. It can be pricey for those just starting out, but if you can afford it, it is defintiely worth it. It costs that much for a reason!