Help: I'm Afraid To Leave The Warrior Forum I. M Section

8 years ago

Know what you mean - but it's a reflection of the "numbers" shown at the bottom of the main page. A quick look at the threads explains a lot.

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Jill Carpenter

8 years ago

There are a lot of new sub forums.

Some of us are quite active in the OT.

I've been through this in my head as well.

It feels like the riveting conversations are few and far between. That is probably what you feel you are missing.

And then you start to question in your head - am I being too hard on some of these new members? Am I being pompous and self absorbed? Or is there a different breed on the in flow?

At the same time, I've come across a couple of small gems (links) here in the main discussion forum that have led me to outside goldmines of information.

For that reason alone it's been hard to give up all hope just yet.

I will continue on to give my 2 cents. Hopefully someone "gets" what I'm saying at some point and it helps them.

But I am finding it harder and harder to prevent myself from smashing my fist through my computer screen, hoping to grab someone on the other end and just slap them silly into having some common sense.

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8 years ago

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by salegurus

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Steve B

8 years ago

I remember when there were regularly 3-4,000 active Warriors in the main discussion forum . . . you don't see that nowadays.

Change is inevitable. I see it, at least partly, a result of the current generation of "entrepreneurs" looking to make money online but having very little sense of how to do it.

Why is this happening? We IMers have flashed the dream of easy money and work from home so often that people think there is a magic button to wealth and prosperity that takes little work!

As Pogo (the comic strip) said years ago . . .

"We have met the enemy . . . and he is us."

We have stroked and coddled the entitlement generation into believing that business is just waiting for them to raise their hand.

Look at (what seems to me at least) the number of types of threads that are spawned here at any given time. It's mostly people without businesses who are asking what is the easiest, or fastest, or cheapest way to get money flowing in. Most don't have a clue about being a business owner.

I'm not condemning newbies, though I know it may sound that way. We have all been there. But I sense the newbie mentality is changing from one of "the delight of discovery" of bootstrapping to the "you owe it to me because I'm asking" sense of entitlement that get-rich-quick minds believe.

Just my thoughts,

Steve

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art72

8 years ago

I too have wondered if the "flagship" of internet marketing forums has taken a direct hit as a result of appointing a new captain at the helm.

There too, I often question if coming here is a productive use of my time & energy.

Eitherway, this place has a very "addictive" ambiance about it like a drug.

To me, and perhaps others it has been responsible for my first sales online (which ironically happened while I was sleeping on the same night) and was directly related to following a warrior's advice/system.

I knew of another "fun" WF forum that was more liberal (people cuss, curse, rip on the ignorant, etc...) crashed and burned... and it pained me to stop visiting and contributing regularly... So, if this forum continues to decend to the Depths of Davy Jones locker, as many have...

I may need medication to cure my disease!!!

Truth is, I have pondered the thought of quitting "cold turkey" ... But, despite having yet fully transform myself into the ultimate guru marketing God-like machine I intend to become... I actually can say; " I love this place!"

It's like a marriage, it doesn'tplease me as it once did, but on occassion it still stimulates my head... Just enough to keep coming back for more!

Who knows; maybe I am perverted masochist, lol... It pains me to "let go" despite the grueling "turn of events" that have happen in just the recent quality of threads being so far and few between.

Damn my loyalty!!!

Rarely proves to being an asset over that of becoming an a-hole as a result!

2016 is near... I say we rally to resolve the "problem" and invoke martial law be implimented by our new "mods" as that alone (IMHO) might be a damn good start to getting the people back on board.

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AffiliateWaves 8 years ago

Totally agree with OP , this forum is loosing traffic and active discussions ,i leaned a lot from this forum and some really helpful members were here once .I have seen a decline in quality and release of WSOs too .

There is no excitement as it was 2 years and before .

Useful discussion ,quality WSOs and helpful members were quality of this forum ,and i am afraid we are loosing all of them slowly.
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Doug9

8 years ago

I just went back in time by looking at the past pages in this forum. If you go to page 2000 you are back in the "good old days" of 2011.
Same BS back then.
I also notice the number of threads produced have dropped dramatically in recent years.

It just seems the whole Internet Marketing genera has gotten tired.

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Daniel Evans

8 years ago

To keep something alive, you really need to interject your own efforts into the cause. In this case, it simply means visiting more often (rather than going away and coming back periodically) and contributing quality information, rather than depending upon others to keep things ticking over.

It's perhaps time, people stopped to think and realised that it's basically their resource which they can ultimately make or break.

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@tjr

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

To keep something alive, you really need to interject your own efforts into the cause. In this case, it simply means visiting more often (rather than going away and coming back periodically) and contributing quality information, rather than depending upon others to keep things ticking over.

It's perhaps time, people stopped to think and realised that it's basically their resource which they can ultimately make or break.

You know, you're not the first one to give this call to action without backing it up. Some gems from your last 50 posts (went that far back to weed out the "Waiting on Warriorplus approval" comments being repeated in your WSO thread):

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

There's some form of WP plugin which I think renders raw text into an image on the fly when there's a server call.

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

Despite being a graphic designer, I lean towards raw text for ease of editability within Optimize Press.

I might choose graphical headlines in other applications such as forums if text options are limited or aesthetically unpleasing.

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

$30.000 is only thirty Dollars.

JV and place trust, or just do it yourself with less concerns.

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

It's at great distance from remarkable.

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

There's usually ways to acquire money back for various methods of payment.

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

You need an angle.

Like lesbians on toast..

Banal one liners, less than actionable advice, and snark (which, in a recent thread, you were more than happy to speak against. Lest you forget).

Before you back out again and claim you have no horse in the fight (as you tried when challenged in that aforementioned thread): you're launching a WSO right now. That is literally your words:

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

It's perhaps time, people stopped to think and realised that it's basically their resource which they can ultimately make or break.

in action.

Let's be real. I'm not going to tell you how to perform on this forum. But if you're going to put out this call to action, this call for people to start cleaning up the mess, you should perhaps make sure you're at least holding a broom or something while making grandiose statements.

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Daniel Evans

8 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

You know, you're not the first one to give this call to action without backing it up. Some gems from your last 50 posts (went that far back to weed out the "Waiting on Warriorplus approval" comments being repeated in your WSO thread):

Banal one liners, less than actionable advice, and snark (which, in a recent thread, you were more than happy to speak against. Lest you forget).

Before you back out again and claim you have no horse in the fight (as you tried when challenged in that aforementioned thread): you're launching a WSO right now. That is literally your words:

in action.

Let's be real. I'm not going to tell you how to perform on this forum. But if you're going to put out this call to action, this call for people to start cleaning up the mess, you should perhaps make sure you're at least holding a broom or something while making grandiose statements.

My posts are in fun and I consider myself to be that one of person. Consice too as I'm usually that type of person. Reserved in my nature.

It's revealing, I must admit, to see who jumped in defence of a post which was perfectly reasonable in a bid to try and improve the very place which we should all be enjoying. I'm surprised you have been going as far with the emotion too to follow my activity here.

I honestly mean this from the bottom of my heart as sentimental as this may seen. This kind of ongoing anger is self corrupting and if you realised the scope of the actual damage it does to your wellbeing, you'd stop. Don't spend your time like this. Do something positive.

This isn't snark, but honest advice to you as a person, who I'm sure is a good guy beneath this. I've been there and done the Internet anger thing for many years and I see myself in you and some other responses. I built up a level of anxiety that actually affected my heart.

Be well and give it up. You'll make this place better and best of all, you'll make yourself better.

I'm sorry for this having passed off as patronising. I'd be surprised if you seen my post for the honestly I am truly trying to convey good advice and hold hope that you won't reply to it with the same kind of friction.

Either way, you won't make an enemy here.

Daniel

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@tjr

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

Do something positive.

In my eyes, pointing out a disconnect between philosophy and action is a positive action.

Take it as a free lesson in perspective

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Daniel Evans

8 years ago

The reason for my lengthy advice was only for the fact I couldn't help but see a pattern to your responses.

If it isn't me who's doing wrong, it is someone else and there seems to be a continuous revolt against people, no matter the subject of thread or post.

This I feel is what the forum has evolved into and my original post here was a bid to help change.

I stand by all my philosophies and actions. It's taken some time to refine and I endured many mistakes, some of which I have mentioned above.

Likewise, I'm sure you will sick to your approach too, however I truly appreciate your reply which carried much less malice.

Daniel

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@tjr

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

If it isn't me who's doing wrong, it is someone else and there seems to be a continuous revolt against people, no matter the subject of thread or post.

This I feel is what the forum has evolved into and my original post here was a bid to help change.

No, your original post was not about this at all. These were your words:

To keep something alive, you really need to interject your own efforts into the cause. In this case, it simply means visiting more often (rather than going away and coming back periodically) and contributing quality information, rather than depending upon others to keep things ticking over.

The bolded words are the actionable part of what you said. Do you see what is missing there? It's the mention of any "revolt against people". You are purely speaking of traffic and posting. You are saying (and these are your words, not mine, so I'm confused when it comes to your confusion) that inaction and poor quality is aiding in the decline of the main section, and that people need to contribute to keep their "resource" alive.

Nothing about certain members "revolting" against others. You're trying to change the narrative. I'm calling you out on that as well.

You have a penchant for telling people they should do something, while avoiding doing that thing yourself. This is, in fact, the second time I've personally called you out for doing so. When confronted, you retreat, and give out vagueries as to why the rules you are trying to put forth don't apply to you.

Uh-uh. That's not how this is going to play out. You're a WSO seller. You don't get to tell someone else to clean up a mess (which would be to your benefit), without picking up a broom yourself.

The way forward for you remains the same:

Pick a broom up and start cleaning (contributing something more than one liners).

or

Stop telling others to do so.

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Daniel Evans

8 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

No, your original post was not about this at all. These were your words:

The bolded words are the actionable part of what you said. Do you what is missing there? It's the mention of any "revolt against people". You are purely speaking of traffic and posting. You are saying (and these are your words, not mine, so I'm confused when it comes to your confusion) that inaction and poor quality is aiding in the decline of the main section, and that people need to contribute to keep their "resource" alive.

Nothing about certain members "revolting" against others. You're trying to change the narrative. I'm calling you out on that as well.

You have a penchant for telling people they should do something, while avoiding doing that thing yourself. This is, in fact, the second time I've personally called you out for doing so. When confronted, you retreat, and give out vagueries as to why the rules you are trying to put forth don't apply to you.

Uh-uh. That's not how this is going to play out. You're a WSO seller. You don't get to tell someone else to clean up a mess (which would be to your benefit), without picking up a broom yourself.

The way forward for you remains the same:

Pick a broom up and start cleaning (contributing something more than one liners).

or

Stop telling others to do so.

I was referring my post in which I gave you advice.

I gave you this advice because you are at the necks of many people who post here and your reply reenforces this.

You seem to even be against me now for having a WSO. You owe it to yourself to stop.

I've gave you my advice regarding your demenour which you are free to take or leave.

It's really up to you.

Daniel

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@tjr

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

I gave you this advice because you are at the necks of many people who post here and your reply reenforces this.

Qualify this statement.

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

I was referring my post in which I gave you advice.

No you weren't. Your words again:

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

This I feel is what the forum has evolved into and my original post here was a bid to help change.

You didn't say your "advice" to me. You said your original post here, meaning this thread. You ever see those police investigation type shows where the criminal talks themselves into a corner?

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Jill Carpenter 8 years ago

I think I just hit the "upvote" button.
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Daniel Evans

8 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

Qualify this statement.

No you weren't. Your words again:

You didn't say your "advice" to me. You said your original post here, meaning this thread. You ever see those police investigation type shows where the criminal talks themselves into a corner?

Is the answer raspberries and spaghetti?

Forgive yourself, cheer up and make the change like the quality person you can be.

The battle is only with yourself.

Daniel

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@tjr

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

Is the answer raspberries and spaghetti?

Forgive yourself, cheer up and make the change like the quality person you can be.

The battle is only with yourself.

Daniel

Next time just say "I can't" and call it a day.

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Nate Simms

8 years ago

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Daniel Evans

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Nate Simms

... man, Joe Robinson ... you remember that time you posted a novella explaining to the forum that you were -- for lack of a better term -- a fraud and that you would not be back to post again?

Joe Robinson's [@tjr] Warrior Forum Apology

Welcome back, I guess.

I missed your snark. Sincerely.

I'm sorry to see this.

In the screenshots, I noted self confirmation of issues I've addressed.

A change is still possible.

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@tjr

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Nate Simms

... man, Joe Robinson ... you remember that time you posted a novella explaining to the forum that you were -- for lack of a better term -- a fraud and that you would not be back to post again?

Joe Robinson's [@tjr] Warrior Forum Apology

Welcome back, I guess.

I missed your snark. Sincerely.

There's always someone a little more clever.

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Nate Simms

8 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

There's always someone a little more clever.

Nah, dude.

It's awesome that you are back.

Place is better with you here -- it's not just Claude jokes in every thread now.

P.S. My plan was to delete my post after I rustled your jimmies, but seeing as Evans quoted it, my plan is for naught.

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@tjr

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Nate Simms

P.S. My plan was to delete my post after I rustled your jimmies, but seeing as Evans quoted it, my plan is down the drain.

Eh, poignant. I'll PM you something I wrote this afternoon in fact that is eerily on topic, before the probable ban comes.

I didn't count on staying hidden forever. Rather, hoped to post for a while without spouting a methodology I hadn't used before saying "I'm back, hate me a little less maybe?"

It is what it is

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Nate Simms

8 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

Eh, poignant. I'll PM you something I wrote this afternoon in fact that is eerily on topic, before the probable ban comes.

I didn't count on staying hidden forever. Rather, hoped to post for a while without spouting a methodology I hadn't used before saying "I'm back, hate me a little less maybe?"

It is what it is

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I would be beside myself if they banned you.

They are all about the membership numbers here now, you know?

Plus, self-imposed exile should be considered "time served."

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Jill Carpenter

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Nate Simms

I would be beside myself if they banned you.

They are all about the membership numbers here now, you know?

Plus, self-imposed exile should be considered "time spent."

Ahhh, the beauty of both Halloween Parties and Internet Marketing Forums.

If you get kicked out, you can always come back as something (or someone) else.

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Joan Altz 8 years ago

Originally Posted by @tjr

...before the probable ban comes.

You haven't done anything with this account for them to ban you, plus WF has new owners since that time. I wouldn't expect a ban (fingers crossed).

Interesting that you are that guy, however.
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misterkailo

8 years ago

Most time spent is on Facebook and other various social media platforms

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Princess Balestra

8 years ago

Originally Posted by The Niche Man

I know people have said Warrior forum will always be here. But I'm getting the feeling if I leave too long and come back I'll get one of those 'creepy' generic search engine pages instead.

Nuthin' too creepily generic goin' on right now, but as a relative nuke, I gotta say the lust for pulse testin' don't look healthy.

But mebbe it's a phase.

Come July 2016, this place could be Palais of Phenomenal Thrusto.

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8 years ago

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Devilfish168 8 years ago

Because all busy on their project ...

update site
promote
etc

who say you just only need to spend one hour everyday can earn few K each day????

If anyone can can show me!
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Randall Magwood

8 years ago

Niche Man....

Your posts are awesome. Don't leave. Stay here and dominate, and stay as a top authority on this forum. You will benefit in the long run... in terms of connections, joint ventures, features, speaking engagements, guest blog posts, and obviously sales.

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Brent Stangel

8 years ago

Help: I'm Afraid To Leave The Warrior Forum I. M Section

Ditto! I keep getting lost...

Because all busy on their project ...

This /\

There is not nearly the need for this forum as there once was. There are a lot of other options available...and more are popping up every day.

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lemonmarket1

8 years ago

i think ppl lost hope making money online.

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Raydal

8 years ago

Originally Posted by The Niche Man

Everytime I come back I see less people in the Internet Marketing section. This is a Saturday, I can remember when this section had north of 2,000 - 3,000 people in it on a Saturday. Today, it only has 1200 people? Huh!

Competition from social media. A lot of people who use to be here are now
actively involved in many groups on Facebook. Even people I heard said
before that they had no interest in FB. Things change quickly online.

-Ray Edwards

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8 years ago

Currently Active Users: 7771 (426 members and 7345 guests),
Yap I see the visitor is declining a lot. I am visiting WF after few months. Oh, One thing is I get too many promotional email from WF as well. May be WF is trying to make Too much money instead of providing the good content for the users.

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8 years ago

Currently Active Users: 7771 (426 members and 7345 guests), Yap I see the visitor is declining a lot. I am visiting WF after few months. Oh, One thing is I get too many promotional email from WF as well. May be WF is trying to make Too much money instead of providing the good content for the users.

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Currently Active Users: 7771 (426 members and 7345 guests),

Yap I see the visitor is declining a lot. I am visiting WF after few months. Oh, One thing is I get too many promotional email from WF as well. May be WF is trying to make Too much money instead of providing the good content for the users.