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is using facebook cloaker in 2016 safe or it is not safe at all and better not to use it ?

by hisoka222
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is using facebook cloaker safe ?

I mean if i have an offer that facebook doesn't accepte, and i want to cloak it using a cloaker with a safe page, when visitors click on my ad they go to the blackhat offer, and when facebook clicks on that ad they go to that white hat page.

Can i get catched when there is so many visitors ?

Help!
#2016 #cloaker #facebook #safe
  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    Do you mean is it safe to violate the ToS of facebook? No, it's not safe.

    But it's not like they're gonna call the cops and throw you in jail. You may even make some money. But eventually they will catch on and you will get banned from facebook.

    Maybe you could just create another account, maybe not.

    What you want to be sure of is that you are complying with the terms of your affiliate program. If you violate those ToS (not the same as facebook) then they will cancel your commissions.

    This is not a sustainable business model and you are scamming for pennies rather than building something you can grow and scale.


    Have fun but don't depend on it for rent.
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    • Profile picture of the author Durell217
      Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

      Do you mean is it safe to violate the ToS of facebook? No, it's not safe.

      But it's not like they're gonna call the cops and throw you in jail. You may even make some money. But eventually they will catch on and you will get banned from facebook.

      Maybe you could just create another account, maybe not.

      What you want to be sure of is that you are complying with the terms of your affiliate program. If you violate those ToS (not the same as facebook) then they will cancel your commissions.

      This is not a sustainable business model and you are scamming for pennies rather than building something you can grow and scale.


      Have fun but don't depend on it for rent.
      OP please listen to this reply. Making money like that is both too much work and too risky. It's also short term so not something you would wanna depend on for your income. You're much better off doing things whitehat and actually helping people fix a certain problem thet may have while getting paid in the process.
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  • Profile picture of the author hisoka222
    No, they can't catch you since you'll use VPN'S so it's not short-term and +
    there are millionairs that use cloakers, cause you can double your whitehat profits of cours...
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    If I remember correctly there was a software put out around 6 years ago that did this. It allowed you to change over the link to whatever you wanted after the ad got approved and it would show the mods a site that was compliant with Facebook TOS if they ever checked the link.

    I remember people used it for about 2 months and then Facebook caught on. If you really think that Facebook does not have the technology to easily overcome these black hat tools then think again.

    Why not just advertise something that is within their TOS? Isn't it easier just to do it the right way?

    I would think in the long run it would be better to stay away from that black hat nonsense. Besides, all these black hat marketers do is make it more difficult for those of us who want to use FB ads properly.
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    • Profile picture of the author hisoka222
      Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

      If I remember correctly there was a software put out around 6 years ago that did this. It allowed you to change over the link to whatever you wanted after the ad got approved and it would show the mods a site that was compliant with Facebook TOS if they ever checked the link.

      I remember people used it for about 2 months and then Facebook caught on. If you really think that Facebook does not have the technology to easily overcome these black hat tools then think again.

      Why not just advertise something that is within their TOS? Isn't it easier just to do it the right way?

      I would think in the long run it would be better to stay away from that black hat nonsense.

      Going with TOS is always a good idea, but not if you have a blacklisted website...
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      • Profile picture of the author onSubie
        Originally Posted by hisoka222 View Post

        No, they can't catch you since you'll use VPN'S so it's not short-term and +
        there are millionairs that use cloakers, cause you can double your whitehat profits of cours...
        Originally Posted by hisoka222 View Post

        Going with TOS is always a good idea, but not if you have a blacklisted website...

        Why are you here asking for advice if you already know it all and your mind is made up?

        Just keep doing what you are doing if it is working.

        If you want to hone your blackhat techniques you should join a blackhat forum. There are many.
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        • Profile picture of the author hisoka222
          Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

          Why are you here asking for advice if you already know it all and your mind is made up?

          Just keep doing what you are doing if it is working.

          If you want to hone your blackhat techniques you should join a blackhat forum. There are many.
          Actually, I forget to add "is that true" on the post above...
          Sorry, but that was a question too
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      • Profile picture of the author salegurus
        Originally Posted by hisoka222 View Post

        Going with TOS is always a good idea, but not if you have a blacklisted website...

        You joined the wrong forum buddy, you should look around for a nice BH forum to join..
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
      Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

      If I remember correctly there was a software put out around 6 years ago that did this. It allowed you to change over the link to whatever you wanted after the ad got approved and it would show the mods a site that was compliant with Facebook TOS if they ever checked the link.
      There are currently several providers of this kind of software, myself included.

      I remember people used it for about 2 months and then Facebook caught on. If you really think that Facebook does not have the technology to easily overcome these black hat tools then think again.
      They don't, but they DO have an ever-changing army of manual reviewers.

      Why not just advertise something that is within their TOS? Isn't it easier just to do it the right way?
      Not always. FB may be the best source of traffic for a certain offer, but may not like the landing page for some arcane reason. If the risk is worth the reward, then it definitely is not easier.

      I would think in the long run it would be better to stay away from that black hat nonsense.
      Better, but not necessarily more profitable.

      Besides, all these black hat marketers do is make it more difficult for those of us who want to use FB ads properly.
      Not more difficult, but probably more expensive due to ad provider's enforcement costs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Originally Posted by hisoka222 View Post

    is using facebook cloaker safe ?

    I mean if i have an offer that facebook doesn't accepte, and i want to cloak it using a cloaker with a safe page, when visitors click on my ad they go to the blackhat offer, and when facebook clicks on that ad they go to that white hat page.

    Can i get catched when there is so many visitors ?

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    Did you see the article in the Huff post the other day 80% of people now have add blockers on their browsers so they don't get to see the ads on social media so get around that one !
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  • Profile picture of the author Gabbarsingh
    Its funny how some people reply like they are all Mr right and all like they have never done any black hat or grey hat. I like you response onSubie

    Hisoka: Doing that sorta thing is always a gamble , sometimes it pays off and sometimes it doesn't ... so your call pretty much ..but i wouldn't count on it as a long term strategy
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by hisoka222 View Post

    is using facebook cloaker safe ?

    I mean if i have an offer that facebook doesn't accepte, and i want to cloak it using a cloaker with a safe page, when visitors click on my ad they go to the blackhat offer, and when facebook clicks on that ad they go to that white hat page.

    Can i get catched when there is so many visitors ?

    Help!
    Cloakers are never safe, they are always use at your own risk. (regardless of what anyone might say)
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    Cloaking is not a newbie technique. You have to be prepared - expect - to lose ad accounts and have a source for new ones. You WILL lose accounts. FB, Google, Bing and the other PPV/PPC traffic sources all have armies of independent reviewers, with new ones constantly popping up.

    To be perfectly honest, my IP/fingerprint database is updated by analyzing the traffic of my subscribers who HAVE lost accounts.

    As people have said, it isn't a long-term sustainable business model, but I know some people who have banked some awfully big bucks doing it, using their revenues to fund other endeavors. If you're willing to throw some money at learning how to do it, it could be a source of short-term profits. But this is definitely a 'pay to play' area of IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Just get your own webhosting and domain name, and use it as the vehicle to lead people to your affiliate link. This is not the time in life to lolly-gag and look for instant riches. Come correct or leave discombobulated.
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  • Profile picture of the author DoubleOhDave
    Here's what you do: post your link on Google Plus, then go get that link by clicking on the time it was posted (at the top of the post) and copy that link - then paste it into Facebook and it will work as a cloaked redirect.

    (I am a genius btw)
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  • Profile picture of the author biggenius
    You can still cloak Facebook with great success.

    Best cloaker which I recommend is Fraudbuster. Fraudbuster | Fastest Bot Defense Tool In The World
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