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One membership site or multiple membership sites?

by Johnny1975
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Suppose you have or plan to have (for example) 3 products that are related. You want to have a membership site that will host all of them.

You want to use clickbank for the affiliates / payment processing, and when people pay for one product and join your site, you want to be able to promote and pitch (from inside your site) your other products as they become available. i.e. have links to the sales pages for each of your other 2 related products.

If those sales pages are your clickbank pitch pages (or if they happen to see your clickbank pitch page for one of the other products elsewhere), when they go ahead and pay for the product via your clickbank pitch page, and when they are asked to join your membership site to access it, how does that work? They're already a member. What will happen when they try to join?

Is there a way for clickbank to tell them "hey, you're already a member of this site, just go ahead and log in and access the product that you just paid for"? And how would clickbank know that they're already a member?

To avoid that, wouldn't it be better to just have a separate membership site for each product (even though they're all related), and you could still have links to other product's sales pages from within each site (therefore causing no conflicts because they're separate membership sites)? Or would that be weird?

Or is there a way to have 1 membership site for all the products but without any problems?

What I want to avoid is people having to join a membership site to access product 2, that they already joined when they paid for product 1.

I am the vendor.
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  • Profile picture of the author dm86
    Im not sure nor an expert on this matter, but how about using like an upgrade membership feature ?? Ive been on other membership site and some of them offer like different products within the same membership site yet they cant access on some lesson not unless they upgrade on a certain level of membership...??

    With regards to promoting each individual product on clickbank, wouldnt it be much more simpler if you only have 1 product to promote and all the others a like a form of upsell or upgrade product if it compliments your main product ??
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven of Polonius
    Hi Johnny! You'd want to use tiered membership levels within ONE membership site IMO. Most membership site software has options for multiple tiers which all correlate to different payment levels or sales pages. I would go look at a few of the popular ones, read up on features, send an email to their respective support desks, etc, and pick the one that works best for you.

    Freshmember, ValueAddon (by JVZoo), OptimizeMember are a few that come to mind but there's lots out there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
      Originally Posted by Steven of Polonius View Post

      Hi Johnny! You'd want to use tiered membership levels within ONE membership site IMO. Most membership site software has options for multiple tiers which all correlate to different payment levels or sales pages. I would go look at a few of the popular ones, read up on features, send an email to their respective support desks, etc, and pick the one that works best for you.

      Freshmember, ValueAddon (by JVZoo), OptimizeMember are a few that come to mind but there's lots out there.
      I know but what if they join my membership site, and then they see a clickbank pitch page for another product and then pay for it, they will be asked to join again. That's what confuses me.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
    Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

    Suppose you have or plan to have (for example) 3 products that are related. You want to have a membership site that will host all of them.

    You want to use clickbank for the affiliates / payment processing, and when people pay for one product and join your site, you want to be able to promote and pitch (from inside your site) your other products as they become available. i.e. have links to the sales pages for each of your other 2 related products.

    If those sales pages are your clickbank pitch pages (or if they happen to see your clickbank pitch page for one of the other products elsewhere), when they go ahead and pay for the product via your clickbank pitch page, and when they are asked to join your membership site to access it, how does that work? They're already a member. What will happen when they try to join?

    Is there a way for clickbank to tell them "hey, you're already a member of this site, just go ahead and log in and access the product that you just paid for"? And how would clickbank know that they're already a member?

    To avoid that, wouldn't it be better to just have a separate membership site for each product (even though they're all related), and you could still have links to other product's sales pages from within each site (therefore causing no conflicts because they're separate membership sites)? Or would that be weird?

    Or is there a way to have 1 membership site for all the products but without any problems?

    What I want to avoid is people having to join a membership site to access product 2, that they already joined when they paid for product 1.
    One membership site, create members area for products that you want members to see and click on.

    Landing pages can be set up to funnel customers any way you want, and have each product have it's own members area.

    All my custom membership sites are built with, emember by tipsandtrickshq.
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
      Originally Posted by smartprofitmoney View Post

      One membership site, create members area for products that you want members to see and click on.

      Landing pages can be set up to funnel customers any way you want, and have each product have it's own members area.

      All my custom membership sites are built with, emember by tipsandtrickshq.
      Ok imagine that you see a clickbank landing page for my product 1. You pay, and you join my membership site, and access that product.

      Once inside, you notice that there's product 2, so you pay for access for that. That's fine, no problem. My site already knows that you're a member, so all it does is give you additional access to the pages for product 2.

      But, instead of paying for product 2 from within the membership site, what if you just happened to see the clickbank pitch page for that product, and then paid for it.You'd then be asked to join my site, just like anyone else who isn't already a member. How would clickbank know if the person who just paid is or isn't already a member of the site?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Let's take an example using S2Member which would work if you were using WordPress.

    One approach would be to have one lead product. This is the only product that is seen by people that are either not logged in or nonmembers. Once they are logged in, they can see the sales pages for products 2 and 3 which they would have to pay extra for. After they pay extra they wouldn't have to re-sign up to the site because the offer is only available to current members.

    Another option would be to have 3 different levels. With many membership scripts level 2 access will get you everything that is in level 1 and level 3 will get you everything below. They would each have their own price and sign up button. So a person could effectively buy one product, 2 products, or all 3 products depending on which level they choose.

    Another option is on your Thank You page (after the order) you invite them to Login or Sign up. If they are already members then they log in.

    This is one of those things, though, where you probably need to just try different options and learn the process as you go.

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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Let's take an example using S2Member which would work if you were using WordPress.

      One approach would be to have one lead product. This is the only product that is seen by people that are either not logged in or nonmembers. Once they are logged in, they can see the sales pages for products 2 and 3 which they would have to pay extra for. After they pay extra they wouldn't have to re-sign up to the site because the offer is only available to current members.

      Another option would be to have 3 different levels. With many membership scripts level 2 access will get you everything that is in level 1 and level 3 will get you everything below. They would each have their own price and sign up button. So a person could effectively buy one product, 2 products, or all 3 products depending on which level they choose.

      Another option is on your Thank You page (after the order) you invite them to Login or Sign up. If they are already members then they log in.

      This is one of those things, though, where you probably need to just try different options and learn the process as you go.

      Mark
      The reason why I want to be able to promote each product separately is because different people are at different stages. I want to market to beginners (product 1), intermediate people (product 2) and advanced people (product 3) separately. There's no point in leaving money on the table by only going for the beginners. I may as well target everyone separately. And then they can choose to work their way up if they want.

      Let me see if I understand. Tell me if this is correct :

      Let's say you join my site from a clickbank pitch page and get product 1. Then one day you come across a pitch page (clickbank) for product 2 (outside my site), and you pay for that. When you get the thank you page, it can have 2 forms on it. One for signing up, and one for existing members to log in. Clickbank will know if you're an existing member or not (based on your payment details / email (-which would it be?)),

      Is that right?

      By the way I'm thinking of using optimizemember.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post


        Let me see if I understand. Tell me if this is correct :

        Let's say you join my site from a clickbank pitch page and get product 1. Then one day you come across a pitch page (clickbank) for product 2 (outside my site), and you pay for that. When you get the thank you page, it can have 2 forms on it. One for signing up, and one for existing members to log in. Clickbank will know if you're an existing member or not (based on your payment details / email (-which would it be?)),

        Is that right?

        By the way I'm thinking of using optimizemember.
        I don't know about that script at all.

        But basically you should be able to have two buttons on your thank you page - Login or Sign up. The processing of what happens with those two buttons isn't handled by CB it's handled by your membership script.

        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
          Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

          I don't know about that script at all.

          But basically you should be able to have two buttons on your thank you page - Login or Sign up. The processing of what happens with those two buttons isn't handled by CB it's handled by your membership script.

          Mark
          Well as long as the thank you page gives those 2 options, I guess it doesn't matter if it's a form or a button leading to a form. As long as it's doable, that's all that matters.

          If you're already a member, how would my site know (seeing as you wouldn't be paying from within the site)? Would it be because of your email address, or your payment info?
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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
            Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

            If you're already a member, how would my site know (seeing as you wouldn't be paying from within the site)? Would it be because of your email address, or your payment info?
            It would be because of your login information which might also be or include the email address.

            Think about it this way. How does the Warrior Forum know you are a member? It's because you signed up. So when you go to login you use the same username and password as when you signed up.

            If you have one membership site on one domain then it would know you were a member if you put in the proper credentials. If a current member doesn't put in the proper login information then you may have a situation where someone is a member 2 times. Then you'd have to figure out a way to merge the two accounts together.

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            • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
              Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

              It would be because of your login information which might also be or include the email address.

              Think about it this way. How does the Warrior Forum know you are a member? It's because you signed up. So when you go to login you use the same username and password as when you signed up.

              If you have one membership site on one domain then it would know you were a member if you put in the proper credentials. If a current member doesn't put in the proper login information then you may have a situation where someone is a member 2 times. Then you'd have to figure out a way to merge the two accounts together.

              Mark
              I understand, but paying clickbank for access to certain pages on my site is a different process to signing up to my site. The credentials for paying for access would be different to the credentials for signing up/in. I may be missing something really obvious, but right now I can't see it. I'm just confused.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
    Ok here we go, most membership softwares have,
    Remember me" built in to the system, so when you try to login, it will stop you and say, this email or password is already on our system, if you have sign up before.

    Your question was,
    They will sign up twice, no they won't, membership system will stop them, if they use the same email and password, but if they want to use a different email and password, fine, but why would they, nobody wants two accounts, unless they want more messages from us.lol

    As for products buttons, you can have,
    Redirection set for buttons, so when they click on it sends them to see, first page of your choice, after your members login to register. Also you can use a different redirection page for each product, and even have members area for each product,

    For buttons, you can have,
    Register Now with Already a Member Click Here,
    Facebook login also to access product
    And put these buttons next to each other.

    Now for button hyperlinks and Clickbank products,
    you can change the button hyperlink on your Clickbank sales page or landing page, so instead of button going to a sales or landing page, it can go straight to Clickbanks check out, for that product.

    Make your own Clickbank landing page
    After you get good at this, make your own landing page for products, and use checkout link only.
    so you will no longer use affiliate link for sales page or landing page, only affiliate checkout link, that is the trick.

    Clickbank hyperlinks,
    Clickbank does not have anything to do with your membership system, all they have is a link to sales page, and that page has a second link to check out payment page, on clickbank.

    Now I always use a optin on my landing pages
    So once in they can view products, the way I choose, members area or sales page, up sell,or send them to Facebook optin page, or wait Click Here before you go, sorry lol, you know what I mean,

    OptimizePress is very smart
    And has a very well built in membership system, I do not use it but know of it.
    So don't worry, once you start setting things up, click on support or ask someone here to answer your question on OP

    All easy stuff don't worry,
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
      Originally Posted by smartprofitmoney View Post

      Ok here we go, most membership softwares have,
      Remember me" built in to the system, so when you try to login, it will stop you and say, this email or password is already on our system, if you have sign up before.

      Your question was,
      They will sign up twice, no they won't, membership system will stop them, if they use the same email and password, but if they want to use a different email and password, fine, but why would they, nobody wants two accounts, unless they want more messages from us.lol

      As for products buttons, you can have,
      Redirection set for buttons, so when they click on it sends them to see, first page of your choice, after your members login to register. Also you can use a different redirection page for each product, and even have members area for each product,

      For buttons, you can have,
      Register Now with Already a Member Click Here,
      Facebook login also to access product
      And put these buttons next to each other.

      Now for button hyperlinks and Clickbank products,
      you can change the button hyperlink on your Clickbank sales page or landing page, so instead of button going to a sales or landing page, it can go straight to Clickbanks check out, for that product.

      Make your own Clickbank landing page
      After you get good at this, make your own landing page for products, and use checkout link only.
      so you will no longer use affiliate link for sales page or landing page, only affiliate checkout link, that is the trick.

      Clickbank hyperlinks,
      Clickbank does not have anything to do with your membership system, all they have is a link to sales page, and that page has a second link to check out payment page, on clickbank.

      Now I always use a optin on my landing pages
      So once in they can view products, the way I choose, members area or sales page, up sell,or send them to Facebook optin page, or wait Click Here before you go, sorry lol, you know what I mean,

      OptimizePress is very smart
      And has a very well built in membership system, I do not use it but know of it.
      So don't worry, once you start setting things up, click on support or ask someone here to answer your question on OP

      All easy stuff don't worry,
      Thanks. When you integrate clickbank and optimizemember, and an already existing member makes another payment on clickbank (i.e. for another product), does optimizemember know that the bank account/card is that of an already existing member?

      And if it does know, can I set it up like this ........

      * non member makes a payment ---> my site knows that it's a new member and gives a thank you page telling them to set up their account and they will get a password in an email

      * existing member makes a payment ---> my site knows that it's an existing member, and gives a thank you page saying log in, your new product is ready

      In other words, can I set it so that the thank you page that they get depends on whether they're a new or existing member?
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      • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
        Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

        Thanks. When you integrate clickbank and optimizemember, and an already existing member makes another payment on clickbank (i.e. for another product), does optimizemember know that the bank account/card is that of an already existing member?

        And if it does know, can I set it up like this ........

        * non member makes a payment ---> my site knows that it's a new member and gives a thank you page telling them to set up their account and they will get a password in an email

        * existing member makes a payment ---> my site knows that it's an existing member, and gives a thank you page saying log in, your new product is ready

        In other words, can I set it so that the thank you page that they get depends on whether they're a new or existing member?
        Hello,

        Ok you said,
        If and an already existing member makes another payment on Clickbank,
        You meant to say, if they already purchased from your website, not Clickbank, if they end up on Clickbank, they will just purchase there,

        Your membership will not work like that,
        each product has i'ts own vendor, the only way they would end up on your payment shopping cart system is, it has to be your product, not an affiliate product.


        Thank you page info
        Is not yours, it is set up by vendor or owner of product, you can only setup thank you page from inside of Clickbank vendor section, not affiliate section.
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          I am the vendor.
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          • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
            Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

            I am the vendor.
            Well then, you can have
            A Thank you page for your products, on CK but if you want your products to be on your website and use your shopping cart, then you will make a landing page for your website, and not use the CK checkout,

            You then would run
            All your products thru your payment check out, and if they click on more products, after they click on one, it will say, add to cart and then go to check out.

            So to recap
            Clickbank shopping cart, is for vendor to create product landing page,thank you page, and for affiliates to sell your products.

            Clickbank shopping cart
            Can be used for your own products, not been sold on their affiliate section, they also have something new, called cart, to sell Multiple products from same vendor, but is not easy to setup.

            Now for your products on your website,
            You do not use Clickbanks shopping cart, you use yours.
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            • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
              This is getting more confusing.

              Ok here's what I want :

              I want my products to be listed on clickbank, because I want affiliates to be able to market them.

              For each product I will need a sales page hosted on my site, and submitted to clickbank. That sales page will link to clickbank's payment system.

              I will also need a thank you page (with instructions for accessing the product), hosted by my site, and submitted to clickbank, so that when someone makes a payment to clickbank for my product which is on my site, they will be able to access the product.

              If my product is on a membership site, the way to access it will be to join my site. For that, they'll need to give their email address, and they'll be sent a password, and a link to the login page.

              This means that they have now made a payment to me, via clickbank, for a product that is on my site.

              Now, whenever they're logged in, they'll see links to sales pages for my other products. These sales pages could be clickbank sales pages, or they could be linked to paypal, or whatever.

              If they want to buy one, they can use whatever payment system I wish to set up, and because they're already logged in, my site knows that they're an existing member, and all they have to do is put in their payment details again just like they did for clickbank, and they'll then get access to the product. Now they can switch between products while logged in.

              So far, no problem.

              But..........

              What if, instead of buying the next product from within my site, what if they see the clickbank sales page for that product (i.e. on a blog, facebook, or wherever my affiliate has chosen to market it), while not logged in, and they decide to buy?

              If they decide to buy via the clickbank sales page, while not logged in, how will my site know that it's an existing member making a payment? Will my site know their payment details?

              As soon as they make the payment, will my site be able to say "hey, you're a member already, just log in and access the product that you've just bought"?
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              • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
                Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                This is getting more confusing.

                Ok here's what I want :

                I want my products to be listed on clickbank, because I want affiliates to be able to market them.

                For each product I will need a sales page hosted on my site, and submitted to clickbank. That sales page will link to clickbank's payment system.

                I will also need a thank you page (with instructions for accessing the product), hosted by my site, and submitted to clickbank, so that when someone makes a payment to clickbank for my product which is on my site, they will be able to access the product.

                If my product is on a membership site, the way to access it will be to join my site. For that, they'll need to give their email address, and they'll be sent a password, and a link to the login page.

                This means that they have now made a payment to me, via clickbank, for a product that is on my site.

                Now, whenever they're logged in, they'll see links to sales pages for my other products. These sales pages could be clickbank sales pages, or they could be linked to paypal, or whatever.

                If they want to buy one, they can use whatever payment system I wish to set up, and because they're already logged in, my site knows that they're an existing member, and all they have to do is put in their payment details again just like they did for clickbank, and they'll then get access to the product. Now they can switch between products while logged in.

                So far, no problem.

                But..........

                What if, instead of buying the next product from within my site, what if they see the clickbank sales page for that product (i.e. on a blog, facebook, or wherever my affiliate has chosen to market it), while not logged in, and they decide to buy?

                If they decide to buy via the clickbank sales page, while not logged in, how will my site know that it's an existing member making a payment? Will my site know their payment details?

                As soon as they make the payment, will my site be able to say "hey, you're a member already, just log in and access the product that you've just bought"?
                Your membership button on sales page, is free to join, or just an optin that saves e mail, then tells them to click to confirm,email and be sent to product for purchase.

                Clickbank has a section where you setup your thank you page,
                Each product on Clickbank, will have it's own sales page, and funnel, you do not combine them.

                Just do a test page as vendor on Clickbank, it will show you all the steps, then let us know if your stuck.

                Also I never charge to join my membership, always free to join, then you can send them to members area, with affiliate links, easy stuff, please do a test page on Clickbank and learn membership software first.
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              • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
                Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                This is getting more confusing.

                Ok here's what I want :

                I want my products to be listed on clickbank, because I want affiliates to be able to market them.

                For each product I will need a sales page hosted on my site, and submitted to clickbank. That sales page will link to clickbank's payment system.

                I will also need a thank you page (with instructions for accessing the product), hosted by my site, and submitted to clickbank, so that when someone makes a payment to clickbank for my product which is on my site, they will be able to access the product.

                If my product is on a membership site, the way to access it will be to join my site. For that, they'll need to give their email address, and they'll be sent a password, and a link to the login page.

                This means that they have now made a payment to me, via clickbank, for a product that is on my site.

                Now, whenever they're logged in, they'll see links to sales pages for my other products. These sales pages could be clickbank sales pages, or they could be linked to paypal, or whatever.

                If they want to buy one, they can use whatever payment system I wish to set up, and because they're already logged in, my site knows that they're an existing member, and all they have to do is put in their payment details again just like they did for clickbank, and they'll then get access to the product. Now they can switch between products while logged in.

                So far, no problem.

                But..........

                What if, instead of buying the next product from within my site, what if they see the clickbank sales page for that product (i.e. on a blog, facebook, or wherever my affiliate has chosen to market it), while not logged in, and they decide to buy?

                If they decide to buy via the clickbank sales page, while not logged in, how will my site know that it's an existing member making a payment? Will my site know their payment details?

                As soon as they make the payment, will my site be able to say "hey, you're a member already, just log in and access the product that you've just bought"?
                I wanted ask you,
                What is your experience level with WordPress, and membership systems,

                For setting up vendor products on CK
                You must first build website for this product, then add landing page, funnel, if you have one, and CK payments buttons and test it first, then add it to product creation on CK.

                Now if you are New to all of this,
                This can not be done fast and easy, you should watch videos on setting up vendor products on CK, WordPress, and membership.

                Please tell me your experience level,
                Before we go on and on about this, so I can tell you what you need to do.
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                • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                  I've only recently started using wordpres.org, and I've never set up a membership site. The only reason why I want a membership site is just so that I can deliver my product securely. Also, it will make it easy to market future products because I can just add sales pages for them within the site. And also if they download the files of the product and then lose them, they can just log in and access them or download them again. I think it's the best way for the customer and for me.

                  I've been watching lots of videos and I already have a pitch page, which is almost finished. The only two things I need to do is make it perfect (just a few changes), and do a test purchase so that I can tell them what will happen when they click on the buy button. But to do that I do need a membership site set up.

                  I'm quite new to all of this. I'm almost ready to get optimizepress, but first I need to decide on what my brand name will be, so that I can buy the domain, set up the site, and hosting. I also would like to know if it would be ok to name my pitch page www.mybrand.com/product1, but I don't know if that would be considered unprofessional.
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                  • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
                    Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                    I've only recently started using wordpres.org, and I've never set up a membership site. The only reason why I want a membership site is just so that I can deliver my product securely. Also, it will make it easy to market future products because I can just add sales pages for them within the site. And also if they download the files of the product and then lose them, they can just log in and access them or download them again. I think it's the best way for the customer and for me.

                    I've been watching lots of videos and I already have a pitch page, which is almost finished. The only two things I need to do is make it perfect (just a few changes), and do a test purchase so that I can tell them what will happen when they click on the buy button. But to do that I do need a membership site set up.

                    I'm quite new to all of this. I'm almost ready to get optimizepress, but first I need to decide on what my brand name will be, so that I can buy the domain, set up the site, and hosting. I also would like to know if it would be ok to name my pitch page www.mybrand.com/product1, but I don't know if that would be considered unprofessional.
                    You say you already have pitch page, how is this built, WP ? if your planning on using OPress, then OP does all of this, your setting this up all wrong, that what OP is for.

                    Your going to drive yourself crazy setting this up, stop and do not build anything, until you know more

                    You must watch videos, on OP, if this is the software you are choosing.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                      Originally Posted by smartprofitmoney View Post

                      You say you already have pitch page, how is this built, WP ? if your planning on using OPress, then OP does all of this, your setting this up all wrong, that what OP is for.

                      Your going to drive yourself crazy setting this up, stop and do not build anything, until you know more

                      You must watch videos, on OP, if this is the software you are choosing.
                      Yes, my pitch page is on wordpress. When I say that I've done my pitch page, what I mean is that the wording and pictures are done (apart from a few minor changes that I still need to make). If I install optimizepress, it will act as a theme. Nothing would change, except the visual design of the page. I don't know why you're saying that I'm doing it wrong. If I add optimizepress, the appearance of the page will change, but the words and pictures in my pitch page are a different matter. I have seen some videos on optimizepress. What else is there to know? Optimizepress is an add on to wordpress that gives you more options.
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                      • Profile picture of the author smartprofitmoney
                        Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                        Yes, my pitch page is on wordpress. When I say that I've done my pitch page, what I mean is that the wording and pictures are done (apart from a few minor changes that I still need to make). If I install optimizepress, it will act as a theme. Nothing would change, except the visual design of the page. I don't know why you're saying that I'm doing it wrong. If I add optimizepress, the appearance of the page will change, but the words and pictures in my pitch page are a different matter. I have seen some videos on optimizepress. What else is there to know? Optimizepress is an add on to wordpress that gives you more options.
                        Ok good,
                        I thought you were building landing page on separate WP install, must all be done on OP install.

                        Yes by using OP,
                        You will be using landing pages and theme, sales page, images, and funnel.


                        Just set everything up on OP, then everything should fall into place.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                          Originally Posted by smartprofitmoney View Post

                          Ok good,
                          I thought you were building landing page on separate WP install, must all be done on OP install.

                          Yes by using OP,
                          You will be using landing pages and theme, sales page, images, and funnel.


                          Just set everything up on OP, then everything should fall into place.
                          Yes, and i'll keep watching more videos. Can I ask, if the URL of my pitch page is www.mybrand.com/product1, would that be ok or would it be considered unprofessional? I ask this because I want to put all my products on one membership site.
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                          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                            Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                            Ok good. One last question, and I know it sounds stupid but I need to know. Let's say that you have just paid for a second product from outside my site (with clickbank). Will my site know that the email address and the payment details belong to the same person? Otherwise how would it know that the person logging in is the same person who paid for access to the second product?
                            You also want to make sure that only one person can use a given log-in/password at a time. I was recently pitched on an offer to pay one fee and view a very expensive product for a much lower fee. On checking the deal out, the person making the offer bought one copy of the product and was trying to "rent" out his login and password to as many people as he could.

                            Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                            Yes, and i'll keep watching more videos. Can I ask, if the URL of my pitch page is www.mybrand.com/product1, would that be ok or would it be considered unprofessional? I ask this because I want to put all my products on one membership site.
                            If the products are related, as you said up top, I see no problem with that at all. Many companies with multiple products in a line use that schema, from small online companies to huge multinationals.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                              Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                              You also want to make sure that only one person can use a given log-in/password at a time. I was recently pitched on an offer to pay one fee and view a very expensive product for a much lower fee. On checking the deal out, the person making the offer bought one copy of the product and was trying to "rent" out his login and password to as many people as he could.



                              If the products are related, as you said up top, I see no problem with that at all. Many companies with multiple products in a line use that schema, from small online companies to huge multinationals.
                              Ok great. I was worried that it wouldn't look good to have a longwinded url. When doing PPC on google, I've been told that it's a bad idea to have a weird, complicated, confusing url that makes the person wonder if it's relevant to what they're looking for. It should be clean and simple, i.e. www.learntosing.com rather than www.wix.com/learntosing. But if you say it's ok to have www.mybrand.com/product1 on clickbank then I guess it's ok. Now I need to come up with a brand name.

                              How would I make sure that only one person can use certain login details at a time? Is there an option for that? I'm sure I've heard of something like that.
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                              • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                                Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                                How would I make sure that only one person can use certain login details at a time? Is there an option for that? I'm sure I've heard of something like that.
                                The details of "how" are beyond my coding abilities. I have seen that feature listed on multiple membership software packages as part of the security. Just make sure it's listed for the package you choose.
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                                • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                                  Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

                                  The details of "how" are beyond my coding abilities. I have seen that feature listed on multiple membership software packages as part of the security. Just make sure it's listed for the package you choose.
                                  Will do.

                                  Here's what I'm going to do :

                                  Think of a brand name
                                  Set up the site
                                  Buy the domain
                                  Buy the hosting
                                  Install optimizepress (I'll check the features first)
                                  Spend some time figuring out how to set up the membership thingy and mailchimp integration (I've seen some videos, I'll watch them again)
                                  Upload my files
                                  Do a test purchase
                                  Finish my pitch page so that it explains the whole buying procedure for the customer (based on the test purchase)
                                  Finish the product submission to clickbank
                                  Make millions
                                  Create next product
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                                    I've set up my site and domain and hosting and I've installed optimizepress. But I've realized that many of my video files are way larger than the 64MB limit per upload. Is there a way around this?
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                                    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
                                      Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                                      I've set up my site and domain and hosting and I've installed optimizepress. But I've realized that many of my video files are way larger than the 64MB limit per upload. Is there a way around this?
                                      Figure out which folder they should be in and use an FTP program to upload.

                                      Mark
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                                      • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                                        Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

                                        Figure out which folder they should be in and use an FTP program to upload.

                                        Mark
                                        What does that mean? How do I find the folder and how do I find an FTP program?
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                                        • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
                                          Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                                          What does that mean? How do I find the folder and how do I find an FTP program?
                                          The FTP program I use is Filezilla.

                                          The 64 MB limit can normally be handled by directly uploading the file to the server and not using the script (whether it's a membership script or anything else). If you don't know how to do this or where to put your videos, you'll need to reach out to Optimizepress support. I haven't used that before so I'm not familiar with its workings.

                                          Mark
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                                          • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                                            Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

                                            The FTP program I use is Filezilla.

                                            The 64 MB limit can normally be handled by directly uploading the file to the server and not using the script (whether it's a membership script or anything else). If you don't know how to do this or where to put your videos, you'll need to reach out to Optimizepress support. I haven't used that before so I'm not familiar with its workings.

                                            Mark
                                            I just found this : How to Upload a File using the File Manager « HostGator.com Support Portal

                                            I'm with hostgator, and it's saying that the limit is 500MB per file, which is more than enough for me. So I guess I could do it this way.
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                                            • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                                              I have started uploading files onto my site with hostgator cpanel, but I can't see them in my media library. What should I do? They're not in any folder on cpanel because I don't know what folders to put them in. I can't see any folders for images, videos, pdfs or audio.
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                                              • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
                                                Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                                                I have started uploading files onto my site with hostgator cpanel, but I can't see them in my media library. What should I do? They're not in any folder on cpanel because I don't know what folders to put them in. I can't see any folders for images, videos, pdfs or audio.
                                                If you don't know what folders to put them in then you shouldn't be uploading the videos if they are the paid ones you would want to protect.

                                                You'll need to find out where and how your membership script requires files to be placed first.

                                                Mark
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                                                • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
                                                  Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

                                                  If you don't know what folders to put them in then you shouldn't be uploading the videos if they are the paid ones you would want to protect.

                                                  You'll need to find out where and how your membership script requires files to be placed first.

                                                  Mark
                                                  No, I don't know what folders to upload them to. That's what I'd like to know, so that I can move them.

                                                  I don't know anything about membership scripts.
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                                                  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
                                                    Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

                                                    No, I don't know what folders to upload them to. That's what I'd like to know, so that I can move them.

                                                    I don't know anything about membership scripts.
                                                    So you have two options:

                                                    1. Figure it out through the help of their support, documentation, or whatever.
                                                    2. Pay someone to help you.

                                                    I'm not sure what else to say. I am not familiar with the script or how it works. I'm doing everything I can to try and be helpful but it seems we are at a dead end.

                                                    Good luck with everything. Hope you can get it all working the right way.

                                                    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    The thank you page for all 3 products should be your login page if all 3 products are housed in a membership site even if they are at different levels.

    There they have a choice to login or sign up. Your membership script will know what they just bought and what they should have access to. If they don't have an account with you already then they sign up. If they do, they login and then they have access to both products (they would already have access to at least one product).

    Like I said the way to overcome this confusion is to set it up and see it for yourself. That's the only real way to learn.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      The thank you page for all 3 products should be your login page if all 3 products are housed in a membership site even if they are at different levels.

      There they have a choice to login or sign up. Your membership script will know what they just bought and what they should have access to. If they don't have an account with you already then they sign up. If they do, they login and then they have access to both products (they would already have access to at least one product).

      Like I said the way to overcome this confusion is to set it up and see it for yourself. That's the only real way to learn.

      Mark
      I understand that my site will know what product they've bought, but will it know who bought it? Will my site recognize the payment details that they gave to clickbank?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

        I understand that my site will know what product they've bought, but will it know who bought it? Will my site recognize the payment details that they gave to clickbank?
        Most memberships check in with the payment processor such as Clickbank or Paypal to make sure the money was received. The processor sends back information such as how it was paid, how much was paid, who paid it, etc.

        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
          Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

          Most memberships check in with the payment processor such as Clickbank or Paypal to make sure the money was received. The processor sends back information such as how it was paid, how much was paid, who paid it, etc.

          Mark
          Ok good. One last question, and I know it sounds stupid but I need to know. Let's say that you have just paid for a second product from outside my site (with clickbank). Will my site know that the email address and the payment details belong to the same person? Otherwise how would it know that the person logging in is the same person who paid for access to the second product?
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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
            If the person used the same email address and login information the second time as they did the first time the script should know. If not, it would have no clue and would treat them as 2 different people.

            Mark

            Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

            Ok good. One last question, and I know it sounds stupid but I need to know. Let's say that you have just paid for a second product from outside my site (with clickbank). Will my site know that the email address and the payment details belong to the same person? Otherwise how would it know that the person logging in is the same person who paid for access to the second product?
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            • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
              Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

              If the person used the same email address and login information the second time as they did the first time the script should know. If not, it would have no clue and would treat them as 2 different people.

              Mark
              Yes, and if they choose to use another email address or payments details, that's their problem. Ok I get it now. Thanks. Sorry for all the questions, I just had to be sure. I'll probably get optimizepress soon and then I'll see if I can set it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jake Sacks
    One membership site.


    You will want as much related content as possible to keep pumping out to your members. You can have different levels of membership - for example silver, gold, platinum or whatever.


    Membership software like AMember can do this for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
      Originally Posted by Jake Sacks View Post

      One membership site.


      You will want as much related content as possible to keep pumping out to your members. You can have different levels of membership - for example silver, gold, platinum or whatever.


      Membership software like AMember can do this for you.
      Yes I think that's the best way. The thing is, I've already paid for the domain and hosting for a site that is named after my first product. Obviously I won't be able to use that as my membership site because it's named after 1 product rather than a brand. I feel like I've wasted my money. It would have been better if I'd set it up like this :

      www.mybrand.com/product1/salespage
      www.mybrand.com/product2/sales[age
      www.mybrand.com/product3/salespage

      www.mybrand.com = my membership site login page

      www.mybrand.com/product1 = restricted pages for that product
      www.mybrand.com/product2 = restricted pages for that product
      www.mybrand.com/product3 = restricted pages for that product
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
    I'm going to ask hostgator for help. Thanks for trying.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I don't think HostGator is going to be able to help you because they most likely don't know how your membership script works either. I think you'll need to ask the OptimizePress folks.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    From a programming perspective, you can use a database table, set a flag, if member id=x then access granted, wish list has some of this already, but I don't think it works exactly the way you want, but you might be able to adjust it or add it if you like.

    (it can get complicated, doing it that way)

    A tiered membership might work easier, I setup a script a while back and added points as part of a reward system, so members could upgrade part in cash and part in points based on participation and skills they could exchange in return for points, it was a lot of fun, there are literally hundreds of different business models you could apply in this way.

    (just think it out in advance, otherwise your head will explode)
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  • Profile picture of the author robertnewman
    I would probably decide for 1 if they are related - it means less work and maintenance... but if you have different niches or themes, you should consider splitting it
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny1975
    Quick question.

    The format for a hoplink is :

    http://AFFILIATE.VENDOR.hop.clickbank.net

    But if I had 2 or more products, how would clickbank know what pitch page to go to? The hoplink identifies the vendor and the affiliate, but not the product.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Johnny1975 View Post

      Quick question.

      The format for a hoplink is :

      http://AFFILIATE.VENDOR.hop.clickbank.net

      But if I had 2 or more products, how would clickbank know what pitch page to go to? The hoplink identifies the vendor and the affiliate, but not the product.
      Johnny, check with Clickbank. They have a slightly altered format for vendors with multiple products. If people use their link builder, they'll get to the right page.
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