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Duplicate content question

by Lee Ruleman
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Greetings all,

My question has to do with how different an article needs to be to avoid a duplicate content penalty. What percentage should be different?

I am tinkering with a couple article spinning packages and checking the percentage of difference with DupeFree. Currently the articles are coming out with a 45% - 55% change. Is that enough to avoid the penalty?

As a side note all of the articles that I am spinning will be for article directories and my own blog.

Thanks in advance all,

Lee Ruleman
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Read this thread from start to finish:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

    It's a long ol' thread.. but you will learn plenty.

    A few of us shared a great deal in that thread

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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

      Read this thread from start to finish:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

      It's a long ol' thread.. but you will learn plenty.

      A few of us shared a great deal in that thread

      Peace

      Jay
      Yeah good for you Jay show our thread. People should know by now duplicate content is a myth!

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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Adamson
    When the details of how G does things are not well known, I fall back on what makes sense and what is natural. There is no way G can know for sure who is the original author of a work or if there is copyright infringement or any other issue related to dup content. So they can't penalise it or they would be penalising every news site that ran a feed from Reuters.

    That said, if 2000 blogger blogs show up with identical content and an analysis of the commercial intent of the text gives it 95% and the blogs contain links to thin affiliate sites it doesn't take a rocket scientist or even a GoogleBot to figure out what is going on.

    I wouldn't obsess over the details, especially when posting to article sites. If an author had the same article published in several magazines this would not be unusual. So why should it be suspect where article directories are concerned?
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  • Profile picture of the author jokarl
    Even if duplicate content is not an factor right now i sure think it will be in the future. The web is filling up with duplicate content and the search engines want to display the relevant information and not same stuff all over. Within 1-2 year im sure there will be no more duplicate content.
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    • Profile picture of the author lilgrace
      Originally Posted by jokarl View Post

      Even if duplicate content is not an factor right now i sure think it will be in the future. The web is filling up with duplicate content and the search engines want to display the relevant information and not same stuff all over. Within 1-2 year im sure there will be no more duplicate content.

      This is not good advice. What you are talking about is syndication. Duplicate content is a totally misunderstood myth.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Isn't this thread duplicate content?

        Seriously though, do what Jay said.
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        • Profile picture of the author LynnM
          Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

          Isn't this thread duplicate content?

          Seriously though, do what Jay said.
          Good one!!

          D'you think the title of this thread might push James over the edge?

          Lynn
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          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
            Originally Posted by LynnM View Post

            Good one!!

            D'you think the title of this thread might push James over the edge?

            Lynn

            I think he's already deployed his chute.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lee Ruleman
    Thank you all so much, I will start pouring over that thread right now.


    Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Roy
    I see people have already pointed you in a direction to get more information. To go directly at your question though, if you are creating content that is 50% different from other content, it will generally not be considered 'duplicate'. It depends on how much content you have of course, the less you have the more different it needs to be. It's more complicated than that even, because it depends on how it differs, etc.

    Either way there's no "penalty", but you may get multiple copies of your article to rank if they are significantly different, which won't generally happen with exact duplicates.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

      I see people have already pointed you in a direction to get more information. To go directly at your question though, if you are creating content that is 50% different from other content, it will generally not be considered 'duplicate'. It depends on how much content you have of course, the less you have the more different it needs to be. It's more complicated than that even, because it depends on how it differs, etc.

      Either way there's no "penalty", but you may get multiple copies of your article to rank if they are significantly different, which won't generally happen with exact duplicates.
      ????

      Please don't be handing out business damaging advice like that... You could potentially damage the business of someone who is in no position for that to happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    In your post, you advised people to:

    Create content that is 50% different from other content, to avoid it being seen as duplicate.

    Which is false...

    And also said:

    "you may get multiple copies of your article to rank if they are significantly different, which won't generally happen with exact duplicates."

    Which simply isn't true....

    Maybe you should read the thread I linked to earlier here...

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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Roy
      Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

      In your post, you advised people to:

      Create content that is 50% different from other content, to avoid it being seen as duplicate.

      Which is false...

      And also said:

      "you may get multiple copies of your article to rank if they are significantly different, which won't generally happen with exact duplicates."

      Which simply isn't true....

      Maybe you should read the thread I linked to earlier here...

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      Jay
      Well Jay, I have to disagree with you. I'm not sure how you explain the fact that I have had the *exact same*, *exact duplicate* article on the front page of Google multiple times for the same keyword. If you believe this isn't possible, you need to dig a little deeper.

      Do you know why this happened? It happened because the article directory it was posted to had enough OTHER content on the page in the form of categories, links, summaries of other articles, etc, that the SUM of all content was different from the article on another website. So yes, if you post an unchanged article to 100 article directories, it is entirely possible that more than one of them will show in the rankings because Google determines that they are not duplicate.

      If instead you created 100 articles that were 50% different from each other and posted them to 100 article directories, you'd have a higher chance of each one showing individually in Google listings because there would be a higher chance of Google determining they were not duplicates.

      None of that has the potential to be 'business damaging'. Which is beside the point that I never advised anyone to do anything, I merely answered his question that in many cases 50% difference would not be viewed as duplicate.
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Ben Roy View Post

        Well Jay, I have to disagree with you. I'm not sure how you explain the fact that I have had the *exact same*, *exact duplicate* article on the front page of Google multiple times for the same keyword.
        I explain it like this:

        Duplicate content when being discussed in the context it is here.. is a MYTH.

        I know it is well and truly possible to double and even triple rank an article on page one of Google... I've done it... and none of them required any editing or changing by 50, 10 or even 5%....

        I don't want to drag this discussion out in another thread... you can see my full views in the thread I linked to earlier.
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