Is It Better To Register Domains With A Hosting Provider Or A Seperate Domain Registration Company?

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Is it better to register domains with your hosting provider or with a seperate domain registration company?

I have heard people say that if you keep them seperate and you have problems with the hosting then you can move your sites to a new host and redirect your domains to the sites at the new host.

Are there any issues with speed or SEO if the two are kept seperate?

I am with Bluehost and have one domain registered with them but have other domains registered with 123-reg, but to point these 123-reg domains to my bluehost site I have to set up forwarding to something like this:

www*mybluehostdomain*com/www*my123-regdomain*com

You do not see the bluehost domain name in the browser window, but would Google recognise this redirect and the bluehost domain name and penalise me?

Steve.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruka
    Hi Steve,

    I heard the same thing, that if in the future there was a problem with your hosting, you can easily swap hosts. If you have your domains registered with your host then they might make things difficult for you when you try to change, and I did hear of this happening to someone ..

    So I keep my domains registered at godaddy or namecheap, and all my hosting with hostgator.

    I am not sure about the second part of the question, I expect a technically clever person will soon answer this one for you!

    hope this helps
    chickenlittle
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Adamson
    1) chickenlittle is right. Keep your domain registration separate from your hosting. Two different businesses, like buying a car and buying gasoline. They may seem related but you would not want to tie yourself in with a single supplier for both.
    2) 123-reg is a very poor registrar IMHO. I stand to be corrected but I believe they are one of the few remaining that actually charges you for DNS control. Move to someone else, like godaddy or namecheap.

    You do not need a redirect like 123-reg are making you do. This is how the system works:

    Every ISP (Internet Service Provider) in the world has DNS (domain name services) servers. Often just called name servers, these servers are queried by your mail client or your browser and are needed to find out the IP (Internet Protocol) address of a given domain. For example, when you want to browse www.bbc.com your browser will ask its name server for the address and the name server will reply 212.58.251.195 because that is the IP address of their web site.

    Every domain has an authority name server. If your ISP's name server which is being queried by your browser does not know the authority name server for your domain, it will query one of about 30 odd root servers, asking "who is the authority name server for Stephen's web site" and the root server will say "123-reg". Then the name server will query 123-reg who will tell it the IP address of your web site and send this address back to your browser.

    Are you still with me? It's not that complicated really. What I want you to understand is that as the owner of your domain you have the authority to change the DNS entry. You can tell whomever is the registrar of your domain to put whatever you want in the DNS entry. Your registrar should have a simple web interface. If your hosting provider's name servers are ns1.bluehost.com and ns2.bluehost.com all you need to do is log into your control panel at 123-reg (if they let you) and change the DNS servers for your domain to ns1.bluehost.com and ns2.bluehost.com, period! It then takes up to 48 hours for this information to propogate around the world to all the DNS servers.

    When you change hosting providers you go back to your registrar, log in and change ns1.bluehost.com and ns2.bluehost.com to point at your new hosting provider. You don't even need to tell your old hosting provider you have done this until you close your account with them.

    So... if 123-reg are not cooperative, change registrars. Go to godaddy or any other modern one with total dns control. Your life will be so much simpler and you'll be glad you did.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wax
      I agree with Peter. I've purchased my fair share of domains over the years and my experience with buying them from hosting providers has not been the best. I recommend Namecheap for their free WhoIs Guard.
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    • Profile picture of the author srinyvas
      Great Information ... I will Try to Solve my problems using you tips for my websites
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      • Profile picture of the author theimdude
        Originally Posted by srinyvas View Post

        Great Information ... I will Try to Solve my problems using you tips for my websites
        Excellent post with a sig selling cheap domains

        For the OP I have lost 5 domains registering with a hosting company. Currently I have a enom reseller account and with godaddy. godaddy have it problems but they always have specials so worth using them.
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        • Profile picture of the author StephenDavies
          Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

          For the OP I have lost 5 domains registering with a hosting company. Currently I have a enom reseller account and with godaddy. godaddy have it problems but they always have specials so worth using them.
          I have heard mixed reports about GoDaddy, I'm tempted to go with NameCheap, except of course there will now follow mixed reports about them too :rolleyes:

          Out of interest how can you loose domains when registering with a hosting company, and can't the same happen when you register with a company such as GoDaddy?

          Steve
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          • Profile picture of the author davezan
            Originally Posted by StephenDavies View Post

            Out of interest how can you loose domains when registering with a hosting company, and can't the same happen when you register with a company such as GoDaddy?
            Between losing a domain name with a hosting company and to a registrar, you
            will find more online reports, complaints, etc. on the former for lots of reasons.
            I've been contemplating on a report on that, but there's really no surefire and
            single way to solving that as it depends on the situation.

            As Richard also mentioned, Go Daddy's rather in/famous for shutting down few
            domain names due to spam complaints. Any registrar can practically do that,
            but very few really do so "just like that".

            Try NameCheap as a few recommended. And good hunting.
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  • Profile picture of the author babushka99
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    and while you're at it, if I can recommend, get a decent DNS hosting company. DNS management will save you a lot of time. If you have many domain, I suggest you assign one domain to your name servers, so that you don't have to use your ISPs nameservers or host providers nameservers (use your own). Look for DNS hosting providers with Vanity Nameserver options.

    The cheapest one that I have found, and very reliable is Nettica.com - there are others as well, but when you run into 1000s of domains then it can be costly.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    I use namecheap and godaddy. Dont use them for hosting. Use hostgator or someone similar
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  • Profile picture of the author steveniam
    Even for domain name registration I used three different registrars. Just in case something happen to one of them, it will not affect me badly.

    Never concentrated your business with one provider. Diversification is the name of the game if you want to avoid problem later on.
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  • Profile picture of the author GuerrillaIM
    Definately keep them seperate in my opinion.

    Remember to check with company you register with that they allow for the "A Record" to be updated. I have been caught out a couple of times and been charged extra to update the A record to point at another host. Most companies, however, will have this feature free in the control panel. I register my .com with namecheap and my .co.uk with 1 & 1.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    read that point made by Richard above - have several registrars for protection.

    (Same for servers)
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  • Profile picture of the author markshields
    I use GoDaddy for my domains for the most part and to have them seperate from hosting companies etc has proven beneficial to me given that I once got a dedicated server shut down without notice simply because they did not agree with wealth creation as a niche so as you could imagine I was very greatful to have my domains elsewhere :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author GuyGenius
    Just like everyone else, my suggestion is to keep them separate. The last thing you want is your host holding your domain name hostage or making you jump through hoops to get control over your domain name(s).
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    • Profile picture of the author aerionmiles
      So what do you do if youve already registered your domain and host at the same company? Can you now go back and switch your doman to like a godaddy? Or is it now to late at this point?
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      • Profile picture of the author StephenDavies
        Originally Posted by aerionmiles View Post

        So what do you do if youve already registered your domain and host at the same company? Can you now go back and switch your doman to like a godaddy? Or is it now to late at this point?
        I think you can move it where you want to, but there are some restrictions on moving domains within 60 days of registering or of registration expiring (but I may be wrong) and it may cost you.

        Steve.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ed Gibbs
          I have yet to find a good domain registrar.

          GoDaddy is out of the question for me. I don't like their practices of suspending a domain registered through them (but not HOSTED through them) because they received a complaint.

          I've used NameCheap in the past and have found their offerings to be OK, but their support leaves a lot to be desired. I tried registering a domain once and for some strange reason, my credit card was declined. (I later found out my credit card company had blocked the card because it was compromised.) They locked my account and said it would be unlocked within a certain amount of time - I believe it was 48 hours. I waited several days and it was still locked. I contacted their support via email and heard nothing. I ended up dealing with their chat support which, after keeping me waiting for awhile, unlocked it. The good side of them is the price and their popularity - if you flip a domain, it's easy to transfer it to someone else because most marketers have a NameCheap account.

          Gandi is currently my favorite registrar in terms of offerings, but not price. They're based in France and have already stated they would not suspend a domain for a bogus reason like GoDaddy would. Sadly, their price for a .com domain is $15 per year. I consider that worth it for the excellent service they provide. As a bonus, they even support my favorite Linux distribution - Debian! If only Gandi would lower their price!

          The only time I've ever registered through a registrar was with DreamHost and that was because I had two free domains with them. Even then, I only registered domains that I could afford to lose if it came to that. I register my serious domains (that I don't want to lose) at Gandi.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Wahle
    I use Enom for registering domains and have never had a problem. Cheap, simple, they "just work."

    Always keep your hosting and domain registrations separate. If for no other reason, so you are 100% sure that your domain name really is your domain name. Some hosts will register a domain name for you, but you are only leasing its use from them -- the host still technically owns the domain name. This is a fine practice in itself, but if it's not what you're wanting to do, you're going to be pretty irritated when you discover "your" domain name isn't really yours.

    If you want exclusive control of a domain name, register it at a domain registrar.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheDebtEliminator
    Hello Stephen,

    I have heard several stories of GoDaddy shutting down domain use and their hosting for receiving one complaint of spamming. This may have been an exaggeration, but it has been repeated by a few.

    It is better to separate your domains and hosting.

    Then as you grow with additional websites, get a second hosting account, a second home for some of your domaains and always have a copy of all of your websites on your hard-drive.

    This is just insurance policies, once you purchase the insurance, you will never use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author aquablue
      I recently opened an account with bluehost, and they included one free domain name registration in the package, so I took it. Bluehost is an excellent hosting company, but I'm thinking of moving the domain name just to avoid any possible issues.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Graudins
    I'd also recommend using namecheap.com for domain registration, and hostgator for hosting. I've used both of them, and am very pleased with their services.

    See NoDaddy.Com - Exposing the Many Reasons Not to Trust GoDaddy with Your Domain Names for some good reasons not to use go daddy to register domain names. Even if they are the cheapest.

    Also, be aware of any offers of "Free" domain name registration if you purchase web hosting. In many cases, the hosting provider puts themselves as the registrant (owner) of the domain name, and you are very likely to have problems if you want to move to another web host.
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  • Profile picture of the author dsmpublishing
    The eggs in one basket springs to mind.

    Instead of having everything together have your domain seperately then if something goes wrong you can transfer things over quickly without any major effort. I have my domains at godaddy yet my hosting is provided by hostgator and it works really well.

    kind regards

    sam
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