Ghost Advertising Platforms Are Bull Crap.

The Terms of Service of the company will say "no refunds" so you won't have much of an argument.

Says who? 1000 real clicks might not get any sales - depends on what you are selling, the quality of the "clicks" (i.e., real people with interest), etc.

You paid for CLICKS - likely bots. Had you asked before buying someone here would have warned you. Do you believe one million people are just waiting to click on your ad?

You seem to think Paypal should have read the fine print - wouldn't that be your responsibility?

We all make silly mistakes when we are starting out - learn the lesson (if it sounds too good to be true, it really is) - read terms before buying and be careful what you buy and who you buy from.

Don't expect a payment processor to save you from your own bad decisions.

The secret world of "bulk traffic". Once you uncover the equation, it's doable.

I'm not saying your traffic was legit as there are bad traffic dealers out there.

But you have to know how to convert this type of traffic (assuming the traffic is legit).

- Viagra and other similar products.
- Fast weight loss.
- Get laid tonight.
And any other product that caters to the ultra gullible and uber desperate.
+
The appropriate landing page
=
Sales

There's a sucker born every minute but you have to know how to sucker them and you have to buy your bulk traffic from the right source.

No one talks about it because if the truth was out to the average IMer, the price of this traffic would go sky high.

While I won't tell you who to buy from, I can tell you that most of the Fiverr and Ebay sellers buy their traffic from daily-traffic.com which is most definitely fake bot traffic.

Just stick to Google adwords if this type of traffic is hard for you to convert.

Also, yes, you will get your money back. If you paid by credit card funds, just bypass paypal and dispute directly with your credit card company.

Good luck.

If you can convert bot traffic you're a better man than I am....oh, never mind, not a dude.

There is bot traffic, yes, which is obviously junk.

Then there is "bulk traffic".

Bulk traffic is derived from several sources, mostly...

-Popups
-popunders
-domain redirects
-domains with high type-in traffic
-parked domain pages (examples: isocialable.com, internetmarketingtips.com, partytentcity.com)

as well as several other sources.

This is real human traffic, but it is not "high converting" traffic like PPC traffic.

It takes the right product with the right offer with the right landing page.

You're not going to sell a Clickbank ebook that goes directly to a sales letter page (most of the time) and you're not going to convert at all if you just direct the the traffic to an ecommerce store page.

As I said before, those who can be converted are the same people who would buy something from
-spam email
-a telemarketer
-junk mail
-a pie in the sky radio ad
etc.

In other words, like I said, the desperate and the gullible. There is one born every second (not just every minute) and they are the reason spam, junk mail, telemarketing and the like still exists today.

But you need the right product, the right offer (with a decent commission rate) and the right landing page. It's by no means set-and-forget and it's not easy. But it's workable as long as you don't buy bot traffic, which obviously cannot be converted no matter how hard you try.

BTW: I'm not saying that the OP bought bot traffic or not. I have no idea (but the odds are that he did because it sounds like he bought it from ebay). Just saying that not all "target traffic" is bot traffic. But it cannot be converted the same way you convert adwords/PPC traffic. therefore, if he did receive real human "bulk traffic" it would be really hard to convert anyway unless you understand the traffic. MOst of this traffic is not looking to buy anything but some can be coaxed.

I understand your point and I agree but I don't think bulk traffic is the case here. He bought traffic from ebay - he had expectations of conversions - doesn't' seem to have had a plan except "buy traffic and wait for sales".

This was bot traffic and I think we agree on that. The bigger point is the idea that it's someone else's fault.

My argument with the OP is with his expectations - he bought cheap clicks. He is assuming those clicks would be XX sales - that assumption makes no sense. When XX sales don't appear, he wants his money back. Doesn't work that way and best to learn that quickly and adapt.

If you don't do your research - if you agree to terms without reading or thinking about them - take responsibility for your own bad decisions. Call it a mistake, take the loss and make better decisions going forward.

The OP doesn't care what I think and that's fine. Just hope a few other new marketers reading this might have an "aha" moment before making the same mistake.

Fraudulent clicks run rampant across networks, takes a lot of digging to find converting ones.

That's for sure:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...s-yes-you.html

If the traffic was legit (still up for debate), you fell for one of the logical fallacies of statistics.

Lots of people assume, like you did, that if 25 clicks got you 5 sales, then 100 clicks should automatically give you 20 sales. It doesn't work like that.

It's like flipping a coin. Each coin flip has no bearing on the result of the flip before or after it.

The Law of Large Numbers (often mislabeled the law of averages) says that given a sufficiently large number of trials, the results will trend toward the mean. But in mathematical terms, "sufficiently large" becomes "approaches infinity."

Going back to the coin flip, if you flip an honest coin an infinite number of times, the results will approach 50% heads and 50% tails. Within that infinite number of coin flips, you are equally likely to get runs where you do get 50% heads and tails, 100% heads and 100% tails.

It works the same way with web clicks. While over a long period of time, you might approach a 20% conversion rate, you are also likely to get runs where you get 0 conversions.

While it's fair to be disappointed with one of those runs, especially given that you paid for the coin flips, it's unfair to label a platform that gave you results on your smaller campaigns as "bull crap" because a larger buy coincided with a run of bad luck.

Robots don't have any money, the thousands of clicks for a dollar services are nothing but bandwidth theft.