Domain name consisting generic word trademarks

by Indiec
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I saying the first word that is Pixel***** that I decided to register, as whole Pixel***** is not trademarked but when I searched global trademark database Pixel is trademarked, and second part also same, how is this kinda generic terms be trademarked, is it safe to register that domain name?

If so, it's looking impossible to find one domain name without consisting trademark name, also I may form one small corporation with that name.

Any kinda help would be appreciated.
#cosisting #domain #generic #trademarks #word
  • Profile picture of the author DeadRooster
    This falls into the realm of legal advice and my first suggestion is to consult a lawyer instead of asking people with no law training whatsoever to speculate. That's one of the most popular ways to get yourself into trouble.

    Now, having said that--and, remembering this is not actual legal advice--I think you have to look at the word combination you are considering. For example, while the words "face" and "book" are probably fine when used in unrelated contexts, you couldn't put those words together and live to tell about it.

    So, if you combine "pixel" with a second word forming a non-trademarked word-combination, you're "probably" fine unless the second word is something like, "starbucks."

    Again, don't take my word for it; seek actual legal advice from an actual lawyer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Indiec
      Originally Posted by DeadRooster View Post

      This falls into the realm of legal advice and my first suggestion is to consult a lawyer instead of asking people with no law training whatsoever to speculate. That's one of the most popular ways to get yourself into trouble.

      Now, having said that--and, remembering this is not actual legal advice--I think you have to look at the word combination you are considering. For example, while the words "face" and "book" are probably fine when used in unrelated contexts, you couldn't put those words together and live to tell about it.

      So, if you combine "pixel" with a second word forming a non-trademarked word-combination, you're "probably" fine unless the second word is something like, "starbucks."

      Again, don't take my word for it; seek actual legal advice from an actual lawyer.

      I understand this is legal matter, don't worry I'd not blame as I understand that I'm asking it to community may not have "legal" background but the community is in same field so will have generic understanding that they utilized for em too. That generic understanding is enough for me.

      Thanks for the answer. The second part is also generic English word having a meaning. I'm also feeling that all this fine otherwise it would be really hard to find an original name that not has been associated with trademark somehow, not only that I always find same name trademark allocated to different person/corporation, that's possible because they are in different business, so should I really care about their business? the business of "Pixel" and the second word? my nitch is gaming. the domain name Pix**** also available, but I only rejecting that considering "pix" may not be that much generic, is this true?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    My layman's grasp of the situation is this...

    You are probably fine to use two trademarked terms as a single word, as long as your topic has nothing to do with either of those trademarked terms. The idea behind trademarks is to avoid confusion in the marketplace.

    For example, the words Amazon and Ford. Unless you're talking about crossing a river in South America, you could end up in hot water.

    Another consideration...

    Even if you were on firm legal ground, can you afford to prove it?

    If an infringement suit is filed, a judge can force you to cease and desist using the domain name until the suit is resolved, and it could cost you thousands of dollars and years of time to find that resolution.
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  • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
    Fun fact: the word "trademark" is trademarked.

    Key issues to know about trademarks:

    1. The most important issue is whether consumer confusion results between your name and another trademark. This is why trademarks are issued per classification / product type.

    Example: Delta Faucets and Delta Airlines can both share the word delta because there is no consumer confusion between these different product types.

    Example: If you start Blue Delta Faucets then there would be likely consumer confusion as to who is creating the faucets.

    2. There are a few trademarks so famous that they practically have a monopoly on use of their word to prevent tarnishing their brand.

    Example: Google Sh*t Scoopers for picking up dog crap are completely unrelated to Google's search business, but could be claimed by Google to tarnish its brand.


    In your situation, if your company was Delta Pixel, delta and pixel are separately trademarked you will want to review the "live" registered trademarks for each to see if any involve a product similar to yours. If there is a similar product, then you need to evaluate if there is possible consumer confusion between your name and the other name.


    Finally, your focus so far is on registered trademarks, which is fine - but you need to broaden it. Most trademarks are not registered but can still be protected.

    What you do is run some searches on your proposed name on search engines like DuckDuckGo, Google and Bing to see if someone else is already using your name.

    If so, then you need to evaluate the potential consumer confusion from your use of the same or similar name.

    You also need to evaluate the scope of the businesses involved.

    Example: Fred's Donuts can be the name of a store in Los Angeles and also the name of a store in New York. Although both stores have the exact same name for the exact same business, if their business is purely local there is probably not going to be a confusion issue.

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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    BTW, kindsvater actually IS a lawyer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I'm not a lawyer (and nowhere capable of being one), but my general advice is to just shy away from the idea, pick different domain name that wont get you into hot water, and then just market the product/site. That's what it boils down to anyway. The marketing makes the money - not the domain name.
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    • Profile picture of the author Indiec
      Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

      Fun fact: the word "trademark" is trademarked.

      Key issues to know about trademarks:

      1. The most important issue is whether consumer confusion results between your name and another trademark. This is why trademarks are issued per classification / product type.

      Example: Delta Faucets and Delta Airlines can both share the word delta because there is no consumer confusion between these different product types.

      Example: If you start Blue Delta Faucets then there would be likely consumer confusion as to who is creating the faucets.

      2. There are a few trademarks so famous that they practically have a monopoly on use of their word to prevent tarnishing their brand.

      Example: Google Sh*t Scoopers for picking up dog crap are completely unrelated to Google's search business, but could be claimed by Google to tarnish its brand.


      In your situation, if your company was Delta Pixel, delta and pixel are separately trademarked you will want to review the "live" registered trademarks for each to see if any involve a product similar to yours. If there is a similar product, then you need to evaluate if there is possible consumer confusion between your name and the other name.


      Finally, your focus so far is on registered trademarks, which is fine - but you need to broaden it. Most trademarks are not registered but can still be protected.

      What you do is run some searches on your proposed name on search engines like DuckDuckGo, Google and Bing to see if someone else is already using your name.

      If so, then you need to evaluate the potential consumer confusion from your use of the same or similar name.

      You also need to evaluate the scope of the businesses involved.

      Example: Fred's Donuts can be the name of a store in Los Angeles and also the name of a store in New York. Although both stores have the exact same name for the exact same business, if their business is purely local there is probably not going to be a confusion issue.

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      Thanks for the explanation, one thing kept getting prominent from your post and whatever I researched that nothing is set on stone, human brain decide if that actually can cause any harm such as possible customer confusing etc.

      I was searching and found better one which is kinda close to a generic term, let's for example saidden rather than sudden (it's not, just for example) most important sudden.com has no content, showing few links ads & This premium domain name may be listed for sale." also suddan.com showing same, so is it safe saidden.com? also in my case 'said''den' have meaning as it is here too.


      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I'm not a lawyer (and nowhere capable of being one), but my general advice is to just shy away from the idea, pick different domain name that wont get you into hot water, and then just market the product/site. That's what it boils down to anyway. The marketing makes the money - not the domain name.
      I can't get away from the idea, because it's seeming impossible to me, think any name (not imaginary) that would consist words that has been trademarked
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  • Profile picture of the author elown
    here at once and not say
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  • Profile picture of the author MSutton
    Real story: I once got a local lawyer off my back (who was harassing me that my domain was infringing on his client's TM) by simply ignoring him.

    I knew that is client's trademark was BS and they should have never been granted the TM in the first place and, if pursued legally, they would lose it. I'm sure he knew this too.

    He was just trying to scare me so I'd roll over and hand my domain over to his client. Once he realized I wasn't going to play his game, he stopped bugging me.

    That was 9 years ago. I still own the domain today.

    I don't recommend trying this.
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  • Profile picture of the author mw13
    Been researching the heck out of this as well with no luck. I'm wondering if I need to seek a legal opinion. My question is in the same vein. Can you use a variation of a trademark in a domain name. For example company trademark name is Bright Red Pickles, can I use something like pickleheads.com or pickleoholics.com? Lot harder to find info about variations on trademark names.
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