Really Determined To Start Online. Help Please!

by smokee
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Hi Everyone,

I work at a digital agency as a digital marketing executive. I have been following WF for quite a while now, and I want to quit my job and start earning money through the Internet.

Now, whenever I think of an idea of doing online business, a major concern pops up. I am from Pakistan. We don't have Paypal here so if I do affiliate marketing, how would I be able to pay or receive money?

I, for now, have around $200 to $300 to invest straight away. I will continue to keep on doing my full day job until I am earning around $800 to $1000 online.

Your suggestions to on what could be alternatives to my payment problem and what kind of online business I can do?

Would appreciate.
#determined #online #start
  • Profile picture of the author smokee
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    • Profile picture of the author SCrafted
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      I won't quit the job right after, but that's your call. 300$ is pretty much nothing but you can still manage to get a shared hosting, domain and if you know how to build a website do it yourself because a developer is going to cost at least 100/200 bucks for a decent website.

      Have a look at Payoneer. If you have a bank account in Pakistan find out if you can use Stripe which is awesome but they require an SSL in order to integrate the payment system in your website, so take into consideration another 40/50 bucks (also you can go with a cheaper option, the comodo cheapest one i think is 15$) and if you dont know how to install the ssl there is a guy on fiverr that can do it for 3 gigs for you.

      Also regarding the payment method (i dont know if you ill be able to use them from Pakistan but with 10 min research you can find out) have a look at Skrill, Payza, Google Checkout, Netteller. There are quite a lot of them.
      If you have a company (i dont think so, but you never know) there are even more choices...

      I think your goverment doesn't want you to work on the web ah? Lots of developers down there...

      If you are unable to integrate a payment processor then the last solution, find somebody that you can partner with that is not from Pakistan. Last option...
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  • Profile picture of the author ANDREIS
    If banks in Pakistan accept checks in US dollars then you can earn money as an Amazon Associate. Lots of people earn money this way and there is no reason why you shouldn't do the same!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I am from Pakistan. We don't have Paypal
    I've purchased from this business :

    Located in The Heart of Rawalpindi City

    Office # 5, New Shaheen Plaza, Chandni Chowk, Rawalpnidi.
    : Latoon Technology
    And payed with Paypal. So, if they can do it, there must be a way.
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    • Profile picture of the author SCrafted
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      Infact i was about to ask him the same thing because once i did pay a developer from Pakistan through PayPal but i also already heard what OP is talking about.. not for Pakistan but for India...

      I was reading a little regarding this issue and apparently a lot of people from Pakistan are asking how to get paid on the web. I think the best option would be to sign up for a Payoneer MasterCard which is free and they send it anywhere in the world, you will receive it in less than 10 days, i did receive it in a week or so. Once you have it add funds to the card with a wire tranfer. Go to your local bank and wire the money to Payoneer. I would add at least 100 bucks to it since if i am not wrong international wire transfers are subject to a 25$ commission fee. So you will have 75$ left. Once you have the funds in your Payoneer Mastercard sign up for a paypal account and you will be able to confirm the account after a couple of days that they will charge the card with a minimal amount. And then you will be able to receive money with PayPal. You should be ok when confirming the Payoneer card with Paypal but i am not 100% sure they accept this card. They should because is a normal Mastercard but i would give them a call before starting this ugly process! This is the only thing i could come up with.

      I would be quite angry at my goverment for causing this mess btw...
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  • Profile picture of the author IM220
    Clickbank can send checks or direct deposit to your bank i think...
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  • Profile picture of the author nwik
    Look for other ways where you could pay or receive money. I'm sure there are other options.

    One thing, don't quit your job easily with if you're still unsure about online marketing.

    Better have a careful study about what you are entering.
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  • Profile picture of the author semahsedut
    don't just quit yet

    instead slowly learn and make friends

    build a blog ... invest money in business ..scale
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  • Profile picture of the author smokee
    I appreciate all of you for your responses. I did some study, and I think Payoneer is the way to go.

    No, I am not quitting my job, but I would love to. I plan to quit my job the day I start earning around 800$ a month. That is a reasonable amount of money here in Pakistan.

    I would appreciate if someone can take my under their wing, guide me while I start my online journey. A lot of people in their 'Why Do People Fail Online' articles, usually mention to find a mentor who is successful online. I, do realize my investment is tiny but at least I have the will to do make it huge.
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  • Profile picture of the author RS3RS
    Clickbank and Commission Junction pay via direct deposit. As does Adsense. Should work internationally as far as I know.

    Or, if you find a business partner overseas (with a Paypal account), you might be able to help each other out. You could be on to something with the mentor idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author semahsedut
    don't just quit yet bro ...slowly take pace and have a big picture first

    listen from mentors here who has seen the tide and wave of IM
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  • Profile picture of the author smokee
    Which mentors do you guys suggest?
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    • Profile picture of the author domainchap
      Originally Posted by smokee View Post

      Which mentors do you guys suggest?
      IM mentors should be avoided, 99,99% are fake mentors that make money by selling mentorship

      start with a good business plan and get momentum

      start now, write your list of action for tomorrow, next week, next month
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  • Profile picture of the author kazimuhith
    Get a Payoneer Card . Most networks support it including clickbank and commission junction. And you should be looking into both affiliate marketing and product creation.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Looks like Payoneer works Smokee but what about Amazon?

    I know readers can't buy books through Amazon but you can likely link to an account or get checks, if Pakistan is good to go. Options; selling affiliate stuff or writing bite-sized eBooks for Kindle. Either way, let your passion for your business pull you thru any obstacles which pop up. Passion sees over, around and even through resistance like payment methods, etc.

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  • Profile picture of the author 3wCorner
    If I were you, I won't quit my job. Anyway I can do online business during my free time or on weekends. You need to gain knowledge first on what type of online business you want to start to(case to case basis) before pouring in some investments.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nico Puegher
    You can sign up on Payoneer, they will send you after 2-3 weeks a debit card that you need to active on any bank in your country and then you can get paid with that virtual account, it's like paypal, you can also transfer money to paypal.

    The cool thing about this card is that you can use it in any bank anywhere in the world, if your local money isn't dollar you will receive your local money when taking money out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eagle07
    Signing up with payoneer can be your best option.

    You can still earn commission checks with clickbank too.

    You can make money with adsense and receive payments easily through Western Union.

    As per your issue on paypal, you might want to check this... Paypal in Pakistan is Banned-Learn Why?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Keep the job, use it as your advertising funding source. If Paypal isn't available for you, then move (if you can) to a different location than where you are. Or simply just use another merchant account.

    Paypal is popular, but Paypal won't be the reason why you fail or succeed. It's the marketing that you need to focus on.
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    • Profile picture of the author brekmokmung
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Keep the job, use it as your advertising funding source. If Paypal isn't available for you, then move (if you can) to a different location than where you are. Or simply just use another merchant account.

      Paypal is popular, but Paypal won't be the reason why you fail or succeed. It's the marketing that you need to focus on.
      marketing and innovation
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  • Profile picture of the author zakirnaik
    i also want to know

    who is considered a goof mentor in WF ? at least 2015-2016 , there must be at least one ?
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  • Profile picture of the author antidajjal
    i would want a solo ads mentor in WF ?

    any suggestion >?
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    • Profile picture of the author MValmont
      Check out kindle publishing. You can either recieve the money by check or by direct deposit in your bank account.

      It is also the easiest and fastest way to make money on the Internet by far in my opinion. I quit my job after only a few months, but I would recommend to make money with at least two income sources before you quit your job.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by antidajjal View Post

      i would want a solo ads mentor in WF ?

      any suggestion >?
      Not sure how this is related to the topic of this Thread, but I would really consider this long before jumping in this Biz. Very competitive and a very short lived span. I see decent Solo Ad businesses that end up going out of business after a year or two.

      The thing is if you do NOT keep producing new and fresh leads every single month to add to your List the quality of of your List goes way down and people will quit buying solos from you

      - Robert Andrew
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  • Profile picture of the author brekmokmung
    focus and do .... do and focus .... ask help ...
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  • Profile picture of the author smokee
    Thanks a lot guys. I think the payment issue is now fixed. I can use Payoneer as an alternative.

    Now, we are left with what sort of online business and who to follow?

    I'll be honest, when a lot of people say do what something that interests you. My interest is music. Does that work well in IM? I don't think so. Movies. Same thing. I think people need to realize that consistency is required no matter what you do. My interests are very dull. If I want to do affiliate marketing in music, I don't think that will get me anywhere.

    Selling furniture online is not my interest but will it fruitful? Yes. Of course.

    I am not asking you to tell me your niche, cashable niche or find me a niche. I am looking for guidance in what ways should I go around for a niche.

    Thanks again guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author jootawan
    music is a vast industry

    try searching for its niches

    guys ....
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  • Profile picture of the author pankja
    Hi,

    First of all don't think about money its secondary thing. First you need to know how this online system works. How money is made online. What are the steps that you need to take. Find a right system there you can learn each and everything about online business. find a mentor who can teach you what to do first and what next etc. Just invest in your education.

    Now coming to your job don't quit unless you have 2 to 3 years balance amount in your account so that you can live as well as learn without suffering or without any problem . You can do it side by side after your office hours. When you are in office focus on office and after your office hours focus on your internet business and learning. Don't mix it up other wise you will soon get frustrated.

    Now third there is no need to have paypal account for receiving money or transferring. If you have account then its good but you can do your transaction regarding your business or learning through your credit card. Go near to your bank branch or any other bank which provide or issue international credit card. Paypal is just a option. Paypal is not end or last option. Right.

    There are some other options too payneer or payzaa. Check them out or call them directly. Really you get some solution.

    Now for receiving money when you will start earning money, what you can do, you can get it deposited direct to your bank account via wire transfer. Almost every network has this facility whether its clickbank, commission junction, maxbounty.com ( I am taking it in the context of affiliate marketing).

    You can also receive money through check in your name.

    Now when you set your own business or product you can integrate with authorised.net or stripe both are good and you have to pay monthly fee and that you can pay through your international credit card.

    Hope this will help you somewhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author smokee
      Originally Posted by pankja View Post

      Hi,

      First of all don't think about money its secondary thing. First you need to know how this online system works. How money is made online. What are the steps that you need to take. Find a right system there you can learn each and everything about online business. find a mentor who can teach you what to do first and what next etc. Just invest in your education.

      Now coming to your job don't quit unless you have 2 to 3 years balance amount in your account so that you can live as well as learn without suffering or without any problem . You can do it side by side after your office hours. When you are in office focus on office and after your office hours focus on your internet business and learning. Don't mix it up other wise you will soon get frustrated.

      Now third there is no need to have paypal account for receiving money or transferring. If you have account then its good but you can do your transaction regarding your business or learning through your credit card. Go near to your bank branch or any other bank which provide or issue international credit card. Paypal is just a option. Paypal is not end or last option. Right.

      There are some other options too payneer or payzaa. Check them out or call them directly. Really you get some solution.

      Now for receiving money when you will start earning money, what you can do, you can get it deposited direct to your bank account via wire transfer. Almost every network has this facility whether its clickbank, commission junction, maxbounty.com ( I am taking it in the context of affiliate marketing).

      You can also receive money through check in your name.

      Now when you set your own business or product you can integrate with authorised.net or stripe both are good and you have to pay monthly fee and that you can pay through your international credit card.

      Hope this will help you somewhere.
      Pankja, thanks for writing in detail. I think, for me, right now Payoneer is the way to go. It will ease my operations atleast for now, later on I can think of a more viable option.

      Everybody here is suggesting for a mentor but no one actually recommending any one.

      Suggestions?
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      • Profile picture of the author SCrafted
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        The good thing about IM is that you can start slow and do it part time at the beginning. I would keep my job and start to work on a website at nights and weekends...
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  • Profile picture of the author yehova
    music is huge ... what is profitable in music ? selling concert tickets ?
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  • Profile picture of the author smokee
    Seems like alot of people give out suggestions but only few advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author SCrafted
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      What does that mean? Plus you are not paying anything for this advice or suggestions so i won't be complaining! Before you didn't know how to get paid now you know you have to request a payoneer card to get paid. And you received also some other good information.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sempeneh
      Originally Posted by smokee View Post

      Seems like alot of people give out suggestions but only few advice.
      list down 10 things that you can think of ..that's already selling hot in music niche nowdays
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  • Profile picture of the author paknil
    i think you can use reddit as a reference for this nice
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    • Profile picture of the author smokee
      Originally Posted by paknil View Post

      i think you can use reddit as a reference for this nice
      Sorry did not understand.
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