Which would you recommended for a beginner? Start Niche website, buy a wso, or join a membership.

Eagle07

8 years ago

Definitely you have to start from step 1 which is getting educated with the right information then take massive action.

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kevinn

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Eagle07

Definitely you have to start from step 1 which is getting educated with the right information then take massive action.

What would you recommend on how to get educated with the "right information". I've basically burned out on all the free online research about SEO, and Niche websites. At this point it's just the same information worded differently. Would you recommend buying a WSO, joining a membership, or just taking action by starting a niche website with the information I have acquired?

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PBScott

8 years ago

Originally Posted by kevinn

What would you recommend on how to get educated with the "right information".

I would build a website, and just get started, the cost of building a website can be as low as $5 a month, then get all your analytics set up, get your SEO books out and see what you can do. Learn as you go, there is no reason to wait. Don't worry about the perfect niche to start, because you can start over as much as you want, feel free to change directions later on, making mistakes is the best way to learn.

Defiantly make sure you have all your ducks in a row before you start paying for traffic.

Don't quit your day job until you can afford to.

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kevinn

8 years ago

Originally Posted by PBScott

I would build a website, and just get started, the cost of building a website can be as low as $5 a month, then get all your analytics set up, get your SEO books out and see what you can do. Learn as you go, there is no reason to wait. Don't worry about the perfect niche to start, because you can start over as much as you want, feel free to change directions later on, making mistakes is the best way to learn.

Defiantly make sure you have all your ducks in a row before you start paying for traffic.

Don't quit your day job until you can afford to.

I'm definitely not planning on quitting my day job, even if my "online" income exceeds my day job(which is not my expectation). I'm just looking for some extra income eventually, I'm expecting this to be a long grueling process that I will have to work through to see my first penny.

Thanks for the responses everyone, it's giving me encouragement to start.

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jootawan

8 years ago

get some basic first bro ..then the fundamental ...and last ...solo ads ..hehe

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Jon Crimes

8 years ago

Hi Kevin. I've been a member of a mentoring group for a couple of years now (I won't put the link to it here but it's on my blog if you're interested!) and it was the best thing I ever did online.

A large part of the group that I'm in is the 38 week training course which aims to have you creating and launching your first digital product. Looking back I was a bit cocky at first! The first couple of weeks were all about setting up and monetizing a blog, something which I had been doing for a while but when the actual product creation training came, wow, it was time to get studying again.

Being in a mentoring program has also helped me to become organzied and focused, something which I have struggled with in the past!

Oh, and a whiteboard has helped as well. Even if a newbie doesn't want to get proper mentoring, do yourself a favour and pop to your local cheap 'we sell anything' store and get a whiteboard. Brilliant for thrashing out ideas and reminders.

I would however highly recommend anyone new to this game that they find themselves a mentoring program, if they have the funds to do so.

It's great to have that support when you need it and a lot of these types of programs have their own forums/FB Groups now where you can get help (or give help) from other people in the group.

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Jon

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superowid

8 years ago

If you had read Chris Farrell's content, you should know what to do by now.
Just take your gut and start it as low as you can afford.

Originally Posted by kevinn

1. If the method they're providing works so well, why would they give it out for so cheap, and risk over saturating that strategy.

Because there are always new newbies in stock for them everyday.

Originally Posted by kevinn

2. Almost every WSO promises something that just seems too good to be true. What are your experiences with WSO's? Was it more of a hit or miss thing? Have you bought a WSO that's niche was not over saturated? Have you bought a WSO that exceeded or met expectations?

If it seems too good to be true, then it's usually not good to go for.

Have a nice day.

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kevinn

8 years ago

Originally Posted by superowid

If you had read Chris Farrell's content, you should know what to do by now.
Just take your gut and start it as low as you can afford.

Because there are always new newbies in stock for them everyday.

If it seems too good to be true, then it's usually not good to go for.

Have a nice day.

I read Chris Farrell's content back in early 2012, but it seems like he's still using the same or similar process of list building. It seems like most people consider him credible so I might repurchase his membership, or find someone else who is also credible. I don't mind making an investment even if I don't see a return for a long time if it's the "right information"

Thanks for the response.

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superowid

8 years ago

Originally Posted by kevinn

I read Chris Farrell's content back in early 2012, but it seems like he's still using the same or similar process of list building. It seems like most people consider him credible so I might repurchase his membership, or find someone else who is also credible. I don't mind making an investment even if I don't see a return for a long time if it's the "right information"

Thanks for the response.

I'm not making recommendation at all to join him. It's up to you.
But I want you to know that his success secret is he's selling himself.
I hope you get it.

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kevinn 8 years ago

Originally Posted by superowid

I'm not making recommendation at all to join him. It's up to you.
But I want you to know that his success secret is he's selling himself.
I hope you get it.

Yeah I get that he's selling himself. It does worry me that gurus like Chris Farrell etc probably make most of their income off their membership site(100% assumption of course, someone feel free to correct me). But at the same time, I think it might not be the brightest idea to just dive into something with no experience off free content. I know it's extremely hard work, and I'm anticipating that, but I feel like there is a really good chance that if I dive into this with no experience or paid guidance I'd be burned out, and would end up wasting money with no return. I'm assuming this has happened to millions of people online.
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jootawan

8 years ago

what does your heart tells you bro ?

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kevinn 8 years ago

Originally Posted by jootawan

what does your heart tells you bro ?

To join a membership site. But I'm also someone with no experience. I'd rather hear the opinion of people who have "been there and done that", before I make a decision.
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ns17

8 years ago

You can check "Wealthy Affiliate" or "Affiliorama" these might be useful to you....

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kevinn 8 years ago

Originally Posted by ns17

You can check "Wealthy Affiliate" or "Affiliorama" these might be useful to you....

Thank you, I will definitely take a look at them.
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yehova

8 years ago

Is wealthy affiliate still ok ? last time i heard they are using Adwords ...hmmm

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PattyC 8 years ago

Originally Posted by yehova

Is wealthy affiliate still ok ? last time i heard they are using Adwords ...hmmm

I just let my membership with Wealthy Affiliate expire. They do not push using Adwords. Their main thing is good content. I really like the concept but right now I could not come up with the membership fee and I have too many other things going on in my life to concentrate on.

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kevinn

8 years ago

It seems like the consensus is that I should just take action, and follow what I think is right. I hope I can get the input/advice of people who have experience and what they would have done when they first started with only free information. At this point I feel like I'm just procrastinating, and I want to take a step by the end of this month at latest whether it's buying a WSO, buying a domain and starting a niche website selling affiliate products off no paid information or joining a membership site.

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ANDREIS

8 years ago

Listen man, explore 3-5 ways of making money. I mean very concrete methods of making money. The one that you'd feel very happy to see happening for you - go for it! Focus on that and leave alone all the fluff about making money. Complete things every day, make some dollars, get that feeling that you can actually earn money, be excited, multiply!

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Profit Traveler

Banned 8 years ago

Which would you recommended for a beginner? Start Niche website, buy a wso, or join a membership.

The answer is YES.

If you are interested in Niche websites buy a few WSOs on the subject with reviews and or buyers whom you find credible giving positive views. Find a membership on the subject and join. Especially a forum where you u can engage with others sharing their experiences.

If I had a time machine.....listbuilding.

Later Invest in quality coach with some of the profits.

Jon Ledger has a membership and the cool thing you get free access to all of his other products like his own autoresponder he made when he found aweber and others to be too limited, article themed products and he is always creating new products etc might be worth checking into. Yea I like the guy...def one of the good guys.

Also pls let us know which way you are leaning for more insights.

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maxsi

8 years ago

Serious business = educate yourself to do business

there are many ways to make money, but business requires education

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Mark Singletary

8 years ago

Which would you recommended for a beginner? Start Niche website, buy a wso, or join a membership.

Somehow I think you are comparing and trying to decide on apples vs. oranges. For example, some WSOs are also membership sites.

Two of the three options are learning and one is getting started. This isn't an OR but an AND in my opinion. People need to learn enough to get started (sounds like you already have this part down pat), get started, and then learn some more so they can adjust things as they go wrong.

What you need to learn now or later shouldn't be constrained by a format (membership site) or a type of offer (WSO). You may need to buy something from another marketplace or a different format.

First step is to decide what kind of business you want to run. If it's a niche website, how will you make money? What niche do you want to tackle? Do you have enough experience or cash (to outsource) to meet the needs and wants of customers in that niche? If not, it's back to square one.

There are many "how do I begin" threads with hundreds of answers that all pertain to your situation and questions. If you aren't clear, read some more until you can make a decision. Then make your decision, get started, and learn/grow/adjust as you go.

Mark

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danieldesai

8 years ago

OP, read this:

what to do if you're new here

Regards,
Daniel

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TrevorStewart

8 years ago

Anything you're gonna do is gonna require you to hustle man. I work for a free lance company and if I hustle I make money if I don't I don't.

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masterz

8 years ago

my advice would be that you get a coach so that he/she would help you narrow down your focus based on your strength or experience - even your offline experience counts.

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Dean Henry

8 years ago

Hi. My advice to you is to get a coach or mentor, that will help you build a buyers list. Everything after that will fall into place, as you become clearer what you want to achieve in your next level.

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yehova

8 years ago

so how was the progress so far ?

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discrat

8 years ago

I got stated with Niches Sites 8 years ago and expanded on that. I think it might be a better alternative than WSO and Membership site if you are a beginner.

I strongly advice against doing an WSO unless you have experience to back up what you are trying to sell.

No Fake it till you Make it, Please

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Mark Singletary

8 years ago

Robert,

The poster is looking to do one of these 3 things:

Start Niche website, buy a wso, or join a membership.

Apparently, he's talking about buying a WSO or joining a membership site - not starting one.

This is why I was saying that the 3 options can't really be compared with each other. I think he may still be a little confused about exactly what to do and so he's maybe not even sure what or how to ask.

Mark

Originally Posted by discrat

I got stated with Niches Sites 8 years ago and expanded on that. I think it might be a better alternative than WSO and Membership site if you are a beginner.

I strongly advice against doing an WSO unless you have experience to back up what you are trying to sell.

No Fake it till you Make it, Please

- Robert Andrew

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hyacinthp

8 years ago

Begin with something that you really want to do.

Do what you love and what interests you.

It's easier to do if you know and love what you are doing.

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Sarevok

8 years ago

Don't spend a penny until you have a business plan.

So you're asking to start a niche website, buy a wso, or join a membership.

Which of these 3 will help accomplish your goals?

Figure out what you want. And then this answer is simple.

Figure out what you want to do first, don't let anyone else tell you what you should do.

Listen to your own gut instinct. Don't let others sway you, or you'll drift in the current like everyone else.

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Randall Magwood

8 years ago

If you want to be the one bringing traffic to your site, then start a niche website. If you're looking to make money online without alot of fuss and heartache, then consider Ebay and Fiverr. Or you can become a Freelancer (ex: article writer) and sign up for Freelancer.com.

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Jill Carpenter

8 years ago

Originally Posted by kevinn

This is going to be a pretty long post, if you have the time to read through it and give me responses I'd be very thankful.

I've been doing a lot of "free" research on niche websites for a while now.

Can you define what "a while" is? How many hours would you translate this into?

I've never made a dollar online, but I'm also not in this with the mentality of becoming rich quick with little work. I've done a good amount of research on SEO, but it really seems near to impossible to get a respectable ranking with a decent keyword(longtail) for someone who has absolutely no experience. Also it seems extremely difficult to get credible backlinks. I'm willing to make an investment and work hard, but I'd like to hear the opinions from people who have been through what I'm about to start.

SEO can take some time for a site. If you are looking for a quicker ROI you need to advertise and drive traffic.

As someone who is experienced what did you wish that you knew when you first started? Which route would you have taken if you could start all over again.

I've been really addicted to reading WSO's, but it's just hard for me to decided if it's worth purchasing them. I wish this site had unbiased rankings for WSO's(which is obviously unrealistic). The reason I'm afraid to buy them, is because

1. If the method they're providing works so well, why would they give it out for so cheap, and risk over saturating that strategy.

Most will buy, very few will actually apply.

2. Almost every WSO promises something that just seems too good to be true. What are your experiences with WSO's? Was it more of a hit or miss thing? Have you bought a WSO that's niche was not over saturated? Have you bought a WSO that exceeded or met expectations?

There are some good ones. And there are bad ones. You have to determine who you are going to trust, and like anything else you buy you have to apply your due diligence.

Years ago I had a friend who was a member of Chris Farrell. He let me study through all the info Chris provided and I found his membership quite interesting. Are there any other sites similar to Chris Farrell's that you would recommend? I've researched on the internet that the information Chris provides is a little too basic, but the membership route seems to be the most steady and reliable way to start making any kind of income online. I'd like to hear your experiences with membership sites.

Thanks for the read, and will be looking forward to responses.

There comes a point when you need to stop reading and just apply what you've learned.

1. Find a starving market
2. Provide them a solution

It's that simple.

Figure out first what it is you think you want to be selling. After that, you do some research and see how others are selling "it" and how they're selling "it" and if it's going to be worth your time to sell it too.

Here is where you devise a business plan on how to proceed.

It may push you toward becoming an affiliate. It may push you toward creating your own product. It may push you toward providing a service.

It will tell you if you even need a website of your own to proceed.

And you will know if a WSO is going to give you help toward the particular goal at that point.

Find the market/niche you want to go into first.

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