Traditional College Sucks For IM Training

cscarpero · 08-25-2009, 01:35 PM

I've got a little rant for a mainstream college offering internet marketing training. It's called Full Sail University and you've probably seen their ads.

I'm on Google researching mlm leads (a keyword with A LOT of searches) and their ad popped up in Adwords with the title "Learn Network Marketing". First of all, they don't even offer a degree in network marketing and even if they did why is it marketed under the keyword "mlm leads" in Adwords. I have PPC Web Spy so I know it's not an idiot affiliate doing this.

People can learn more in a $25 ppc ebook than their "experts" know. How pathetic!

Ross Bowring · 08-25-2009, 01:38 PM

You're dead on. Traditional college sucks for a lot of the real-life skills you need in life.

Adam Bshero · 08-25-2009, 01:42 PM

All college is for is to obtain a piece of paper that says you have a degree.

Experience and work ethic are the best tools for anyone to be successful.

MacFreddie · 08-25-2009, 01:51 PM

College sucks for most careers, except maybe a Doctor, Lawyer, etc...

Forgot where I read it, but over 80% of college graduates are in a completely different career than what they had studied in college.

I dropped out in my 2nd year when I realized my Professors were mostly a bunch of Losers. Here they were teaching Business and Marketing courses yet they had never worked in the real world themselves. Most had always been involved in the public system such as a Teacher, Administrator, board member, etc...

I would argue constantly with my liberal teachers about Business. They would teach crap straight out of the book with NO real world experience.

I should have gone to Wharton

Real teachers, real world business leaders.

To say that 95% of ALL teachers suck would be an understatement.

Also, the school counselors lie about real world opportunities.

I read more books when I left school then I ever have in my entire academic career.

My kids received a Full 5 year scholarship to an Ivy league Liberal college in Michigan. We'll see what happens.

My daughter loves Obama so look at how she is corrupted already.

My kids were also subjected to that lying video that Al Gore has, most of it is pure B.S. This video is shown to the school kids every single year, how bout dat for being indoctrinated to the lies of Politicians.

For everyones info, I am not a "W" supporter either, I am Independent. Bush sucked also, but he was better than this Tool we have in office.

Mac

daveanderson · 08-25-2009, 01:57 PM

Mac,

I think you should be a little more upfront with how you stand on certain issues. I think people reading your post could become confused on your thoughts and your political views. lol.

dle45 · 08-25-2009, 02:00 PM

MacFreddie: I laughed out loud at some of your comments ( because i fell the same way).

I have always wondered how a marketing or business professor is qualified to teach me how to run a company when all they do is read about it from a book and barely make enough to call it a comfortable living.

but they are off all weekends, holidays and summer! hhhmmmm...maybe thats their strategy

Jon Olson · 08-25-2009, 02:11 PM

Nothing beats self-education in my opinion. I graduated from college, spent years trying to break into my chosen field, only to end up with nothing.

I started to learn IM, studied at my own pace. Bought training material and books that were recommended to me, and my business has taken off.

I've never stopped learning, I love it. However traditional college was not for me and is not the answer for many these days.

Mark-Dickenson · 08-25-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cscarpero

I've got a little rant for a mainstream college offering internet marketing training. It's called Full Sail University and you've probably seen their ads.

I'm on Google researching mlm leads (a keyword with A LOT of searches) and their ad popped up in Adwords with the title "Learn Network Marketing". First of all, they don't even offer a degree in network marketing and even if they did why is it marketed under the keyword "mlm leads" in Adwords. I have PPC Web Spy so I know it's not an idiot affiliate doing this.

People can learn more in a $25 ppc ebook than their "experts" know. How pathetic!

Well, at least they named it after a Fine Ale so they go that going for them

College was an absolute blast and I have season tickets to my school which is 5 hrs away from where I live...so obviously I love my alma mater...

but as far as real world app, the only thing I learned that was useful in my 5 yrs(not 4 lol) was how to use a financial calculator. I used that in my 8 yrs in the mortgage business. I could have learned that in 30 minutes

College is great for the people you meet and for some of your most cherised memories. It sucks for real world application

-Mark

Kappa · 08-25-2009, 02:33 PM

I have a degree from a top college, and all I have to say is the only people who are still doing well in the area they studied undergrad are the people who are still in academia, teaching. Everyone else has needed business, legal, medical, etc. training to excel in their fields. You should be skeptical of online programs in general unless you've seen the results for yourself. Be a smart consumer of education, because many are selling empty promises because they will get their check from the student loan industry either way.

MichaelHiles · 08-25-2009, 03:17 PM

No offense intended here, but this is probably the second post in a week about this. WF averages about a post a week about the college "internet marketing" certificate programs.

Full Sail, U of San Fransisco, etc... have all rightfully been brutalized on numerous occasions.

MacFreddie · 08-25-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccmusicman

lol...I love that post - I hope you don't get banned for being too political!

But I agree with your sentiments. I dropped out of college last year. Couldn't be happier AND (funnily enough) making more money than all the business students make when they graduate! bahaha...

Rob

Since when is the TRUTH not allowed?

Mac

I voted for Bushie twice. I'm the first to admit he made mistakes and so did the Republican held House and Senate.

David Walker · 08-25-2009, 03:57 PM

I'd be really wary of any academic institution offering a course on internet marketing.

Firstly, the info would be outdated and what is the point in writing academic papers on a subject which is not at all academic?

Secondly, the lecturers would most probably be "failed" internet marketers. If they were any good, they'd be "doing" it, not "teaching" it for around $40,000 a year.

When I was at university, the lecturer who was teaching us about project managements was exactly that, a failed project manager, whose only "real life" examples he could draw upon was when his own projects were months behind schedule and went massively over budget!

If you want to learn about IM, just pay someone like Rich Schefren whatever he's asking and learn about it properly.

David

08-25-2009, 01:35 PM	#1
cscarpero HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: , , USA. Posts: 418 Thanks: 17 Thanked 71 Times in 33 Posts	Traditional College Sucks For IM Training I've got a little rant for a mainstream college offering internet marketing training. It's called Full Sail University and you've probably seen their ads. I'm on Google researching mlm leads (a keyword with A LOT of searches) and their ad popped up in Adwords with the title "Learn Network Marketing". First of all, they don't even offer a degree in network marketing and even if they did why is it marketed under the keyword "mlm leads" in Adwords. I have PPC Web Spy so I know it's not an idiot affiliate doing this. People can learn more in a $25 ppc ebook than their "experts" know. How pathetic!
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08-25-2009, 01:38 PM	#2
Ross Bowring Cash Creating Copywriter War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Philadelphia, USA Posts: 694 Thanks: 536 Thanked 588 Times in 205 Posts Social Networking	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training You're dead on. Traditional college sucks for a lot of the real-life skills you need in life.
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08-25-2009, 01:42 PM	#3
Adam Bshero Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 538 Thanks: 17 Thanked 210 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training All college is for is to obtain a piece of paper that says you have a degree. Experience and work ethic are the best tools for anyone to be successful.

08-25-2009, 01:51 PM	#4
MacFreddie Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chi-cago Posts: 204 Thanks: 12 Thanked 60 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training College sucks for most careers, except maybe a Doctor, Lawyer, etc... Forgot where I read it, but over 80% of college graduates are in a completely different career than what they had studied in college. I dropped out in my 2nd year when I realized my Professors were mostly a bunch of Losers. Here they were teaching Business and Marketing courses yet they had never worked in the real world themselves. Most had always been involved in the public system such as a Teacher, Administrator, board member, etc... I would argue constantly with my liberal teachers about Business. They would teach crap straight out of the book with NO real world experience. I should have gone to Wharton Real teachers, real world business leaders. To say that 95% of ALL teachers suck would be an understatement. Also, the school counselors lie about real world opportunities. I read more books when I left school then I ever have in my entire academic career. My kids received a Full 5 year scholarship to an Ivy league Liberal college in Michigan. We'll see what happens. My daughter loves Obama so look at how she is corrupted already. My kids were also subjected to that lying video that Al Gore has, most of it is pure B.S. This video is shown to the school kids every single year, how bout dat for being indoctrinated to the lies of Politicians. For everyones info, I am not a "W" supporter either, I am Independent. Bush sucked also, but he was better than this Tool we have in office. Mac

08-25-2009, 01:57 PM	#5
daveanderson Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Utah Posts: 22 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training Mac, I think you should be a little more upfront with how you stand on certain issues. I think people reading your post could become confused on your thoughts and your political views. lol.
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08-25-2009, 02:00 PM	#6
dle45 I don't settle for 2nd War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Nashvegas/Midtown Posts: 69 Thanks: 8 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training MacFreddie: I laughed out loud at some of your comments ( because i fell the same way). I have always wondered how a marketing or business professor is qualified to teach me how to run a company when all they do is read about it from a book and barely make enough to call it a comfortable living. but they are off all weekends, holidays and summer! hhhmmmm...maybe thats their strategy

08-25-2009, 02:11 PM	#7
Jon Olson The Traffic Exchange Guy War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Edmonton, Canada. Posts: 1,204 Thanks: 52 Thanked 22 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training Nothing beats self-education in my opinion. I graduated from college, spent years trying to break into my chosen field, only to end up with nothing. I started to learn IM, studied at my own pace. Bought training material and books that were recommended to me, and my business has taken off. I've never stopped learning, I love it. However traditional college was not for me and is not the answer for many these days.
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08-25-2009, 02:33 PM	#9
Kappa HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 147 Thanks: 7 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training I have a degree from a top college, and all I have to say is the only people who are still doing well in the area they studied undergrad are the people who are still in academia, teaching. Everyone else has needed business, legal, medical, etc. training to excel in their fields. You should be skeptical of online programs in general unless you've seen the results for yourself. Be a smart consumer of education, because many are selling empty promises because they will get their check from the student loan industry either way.

08-25-2009, 03:17 PM	#10
MichaelHiles Battle Scarred Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,563 Thanks: 665 Thanked 1,780 Times in 744 Posts Social Networking	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training No offense intended here, but this is probably the second post in a week about this. WF averages about a post a week about the college "internet marketing" certificate programs. Full Sail, U of San Fransisco, etc... have all rightfully been brutalized on numerous occasions.
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08-25-2009, 03:57 PM	#12
David Walker Not So New Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny South Wales Posts: 166 Thanks: 89 Thanked 49 Times in 37 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Traditional College Sucks For IM Training I'd be really wary of any academic institution offering a course on internet marketing. Firstly, the info would be outdated and what is the point in writing academic papers on a subject which is not at all academic? Secondly, the lecturers would most probably be "failed" internet marketers. If they were any good, they'd be "doing" it, not "teaching" it for around $40,000 a year. When I was at university, the lecturer who was teaching us about project managements was exactly that, a failed project manager, whose only "real life" examples he could draw upon was when his own projects were months behind schedule and went massively over budget! If you want to learn about IM, just pay someone like Rich Schefren whatever he's asking and learn about it properly. David
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